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md4958 06-19-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 892540)

looks like hes a fan of RyJ

Don Fernando 06-19-2010 12:15 PM

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and Cohiba

MarkinAZ 06-19-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kazzaca (Post 891682)
I agree that he did suck though...the question is how he qualified to ref ANY game at the World Cup.

The diversity in the World Cup program. You don't have to be qualified...

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Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 891755)
This ref apparently was more than qualified... he just blew some calls. I heard he had ref'd the African World of Nations Cup, and some other high profile matches.

I didn't see the controversial call, but was it the Ref from Mali or the AR on the touch line who made the call? The person who would have the best line for the offside call would be the AR, and the AR could possibly overturn the Refs call...

md4958 06-22-2010 08:30 AM

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Go South Africa!!

GreekGodX 06-22-2010 06:36 PM

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Thanks for the pic, Moe :) Unfortunately no more Greece :( At least we held Messi scoreless. I'm so disappointed. I feel like I wasted 2.5 hours watching today. Hopefully Greece can build on their performance and bounce back in the next World Cup.

Mugen910 06-22-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 895750)
Thanks for the pic, Moe :) Unfortunately no more Greece :( At least we held Messi scoreless. I'm so disappointed. I feel like I wasted 2.5 hours watching today. Hopefully Greece can build on their performance and bounce back in the next World Cup.

Maybe they should recruit you as an Enforcer type player Christos ;)

3SmokesaRound 06-22-2010 11:24 PM

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U.S. predictions for tomorrow?

Mine... 2-0 U.S. Altidore and Donovan get the goals.

kazzaca 06-23-2010 09:03 AM

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If the US doesn't get into the next round it will be a joke...that's 2 perfectly good goals disallowed...

Don Fernando 06-23-2010 10:05 AM

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Justice!

De Bleekere used to be one of the best refs in Europe, but he lost it. Disallowing that goal was a joke, just like the red card for that Algerian player (other players were protesting, not the captain)

hotreds 06-23-2010 10:05 AM

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Glad someone on the USA team finally realized the object is to get the ball into the net when looking at an empty one, not shoot beside it!

Blueface 06-23-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 896476)
Glad someone on the USA team finally realized the object is to get the ball into the net when looking at an empty one, not shoot beside it!

Man this game made me sweat.
Unreal the opportunities missed.

In the end, the US came out on top of their bracket. Who would have given them a chance out of it, let alone to end up on top of it.

Blueface 06-23-2010 10:10 AM

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and Cohiba

....and murderers.

Here he is with a Cohiba.

Seems he is a big fan of Fidel and Chavez also.
Great, super guy.:rolleyes:

Ever the provocateur, soccer legend Diego Maradona says he wants to add a new face to his tattoo collection — which already features the visages of Fidel Castro and Che Guevara — la jeta de Hugo Chávez:
Diego Maradona said today that he wishes to get a tattoo of the president of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, after having branded his skin with the faces of Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Argentine-Cuban guerrillero Ernesto “Che” Guevara.

Mugen910 06-23-2010 10:10 AM

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Now that is was a game!

MortonMilo 06-23-2010 10:19 AM

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Best sports moment I've seen in a long time.
USA USA USA!

homerjay19 06-23-2010 10:20 AM

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The US game was intense...looking forward to the Ghana Germany game later this afternoon.

Smokin Gator 06-23-2010 10:21 AM

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Usa goal!!!!

St. Lou Stu 06-23-2010 10:55 AM

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Wow

hotreds 06-23-2010 01:55 PM

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Anybody watched any of the WC on their cellphones? Wondering how that looks?

marge796 06-23-2010 02:08 PM

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:usa Congratulations Team USA!!! :usa

Smokin Gator 06-23-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 896504)
Usa goal!!!!

I just figured out something that may give you a laugh... I will preface it by saying I am such a dumb arse...

I was watching the USA game earlier and as soon as we scored I posted the above. Later as I was rereading the posts and couldn't figure out how others had posted about the USA result before me... Yep... I was watching the match recorded on DVR!!!

TheRiddick 06-23-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 896475)
Justice!

De Bleekere used to be one of the best refs in Europe, but he lost it. Disallowing that goal was a joke, just like the red card for that Algerian player (other players were protesting, not the captain)

He lost it a while back when he pretty much eliminated Chelsea versus Barca with his bad calls. Have no idea where FIFA finds these jokers. I predicted balls calls today 3-4 days ago when FIFA announced he would be refereeing USA game to "atone" for the Mali clown in last one.

Don Fernando 06-23-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokin Gator (Post 896804)
I just figured out something that may give you a laugh... I will preface it by saying I am such a dumb arse...

I was watching the USA game earlier and as soon as we scored I posted the above. Later as I was rereading the posts and couldn't figure out how others had posted about the USA result before me... Yep... I was watching the match recorded on DVR!!!

:r

MarkinAZ 06-23-2010 05:11 PM

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Unlike Brent, I was watching the USA v Algeria game "live" this morning up to the last 30 min, and then had to hit the road. Fortunately, I turned-on ESPN radio and caught the remaining excitement, including the goal, which almost made me loose control of the car on the 5 freeway. I'm sure several motorist saw me fist pumping inside the car:r

TheRiddick 06-23-2010 06:37 PM

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http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2496/malireferee.jpg

My apology for questioning FIFA referee selection process, they seem to be an equal opportunity employer after all. Mali ref at the USA Slovenia match...

Don Fernando 06-24-2010 09:53 AM

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goodbye Italy, who would have thought that before the WC?

gvarsity 06-24-2010 09:54 AM

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Interesting how a lot of the big European teams are doing poorly. France last in their group winless and Gone. Italy in trouble about to be Gone. Spain losing to the Swiss. Germany losing to Serbia. England tying the U.S. and Algeria. The big European teams are looking vulnerable. The only teams holding their own is the Netherlands and Portugal a team historically the most likely to fold up with dominant talent.

On the other hand South American teams are looking outstanding particularly Argentina. Still Brazil is Brazil, Uruguay looks tough, Paraguay is playing well, Chile is playing well and they are all leading their groups. Five of eight groups are lead by South American teams and the other three groups don't have a South American team.

TheRiddick 06-24-2010 10:40 AM

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Both Argentina and Brasil profited from obvious and blatant non-calls by referees (hand balls), but hey, who's counting. Once both are in knock out stages we'll see if they actually play better than EU teams. I wonder if FIFA will now institute a "Hand of God" trophy for the most inventive hand ball play...

The ref discussing Fabiano's hand ball with the player seconds after allowing it to stand (smiles and all) is the most disgusting moment of the WC so far. I am sure its not the last one, either.

St. Lou Stu 06-25-2010 09:30 AM

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http://www.viddler.com/explore/cheezburger/videos/493/

kazzaca 06-25-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 897600)

The ref discussing Fabiano's hand ball with the player seconds after allowing it to stand (smiles and all) is the most disgusting moment of the WC so far. I am sure its not the last one, either.

I agree...I can't believe that the media didn't make a bigger deal about that. There was barely any mention of it anywhere in the British media and was hardly mentioned in the media here either. Crazy!

TheRiddick 06-25-2010 02:22 PM

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Fabiano handled TWICE on that same play. OK, maybe the 4 officials did not see one handball, but all four then missing a second one as well? What are the odds of that?

And then Fabiano and Maradona get into a verbal spat over whose was really the "hand of God" and FIFA still doesn't do crap.

It breaks anyone's mental and then physical state when you realize you are playing against a ref. Same thing happened to USA guys in Algir game, Dempsey's face said it all for the last 20 odd minutes and his body showed general dismissive/disinterested attitude, he simply moved with no emotion.

Had both Brazil and Argentine's first goals in both games not stood (correctly so, both being obvious hand balls instantly replayed on giant screens at both stadiums for refs to double check IF they wanted to), both games would most likely end on a different note, I am sure. Both opponents were playing pretty organized game up to that point and in both cases the game changed on the dime right after.

Don Fernando 06-25-2010 02:27 PM

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are you sure that the images were replayed? As that is against FIFA regulations. Images of fouls, offside etc etc aren't allowed to be shown on the stadium screens.

TheRiddick 06-25-2010 03:59 PM

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I am not absolutely sure, but you can see those in the stadium watching the screens right after goals. What do the screens show, then, save for ads and the crowd? Interestingly enough, we do not see the screen on TV, either.

Let's say I am wrong on this point, no big deal to me, do you agree with both goals being counted when we can clearly see hand balls on TV screens (on the plays themselves, not just replays) and all 4 officials not seeing both? I was saying "Handball!" to myself, before any replays were played, we're talking old, smallish TV screen here without high resolution.

And in case of Fabiano there is absolutely no doubt the ref has seen the handball as he gleefully discussed it with the player right after, smile and all. Who said bribery of refs is dead (in whatever shape/form it takes place)? Actually, Fabiano played handball twice to his advantage, on same play no less, as I pointed out above.

Ghana will be a tough game without a FIFA/ref playing favorites, but then again Ghana is the only African team left and something tells me the deck is going to be stacked yet again.

I just hope we get a decent ref tomorrow, for a change. Two in a row is brutal, 3 in a row is a kiss of death. FIFA is obviously stacking the deck against USA so far all the while claiming the sport brings people together? I guess only vodka does that.

pnoon 06-25-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 899333)
I am not absolutely sure, but you can see those in the stadium watching the screens right after goals. What do the screens show, then, save for ads and the crowd? Interestingly enough, we do not see the screen on TV, either.

Let's say I am wrong on this point, no big deal to me, do you agree with both goals being counted when we can clearly see hand balls on TV screens (on the plays themselves, not just replays) and all 4 officials not seeing both? I was saying "Handball!" to myself, before any replays were played, we're talking old, smallish TV screen here without high resolution.

And in case of Fabiano there is absolutely no doubt the ref has seen the handball as he gleefully discussed it with the player right after, smile and all. Who said bribery of refs is dead (in whatever shape/form it takes place)? Actually, Fabiano played handball twice to his advantage, on same play no less, as I pointed out above.

Ghana will be a tough game without a FIFA/ref playing favorites, but then again Ghana is the only African team left and something tells me the deck is going to be stacked yet again.

I just hope we get a decent ref tomorrow, for a change. Two in a row is brutal, 3 in a row is a kiss of death. FIFA is obviously stacking the deck against USA so far all the while claiming the sport brings people together? I guess only vodka does that.

Maybe you should tune into figure skating instead. :2

chippewastud79 06-25-2010 07:31 PM

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Nice article and video I just read/watched. Pretty cool to see the reactions for around the country. :tu

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/wor...van062510.html

pnoon 06-25-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 899510)
Nice article and video I just read/watched. Pretty cool to see the reactions for around the country. :tu

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/wor...van062510.html

Terrific. Thanks for posting this, Adam.

TheRiddick 06-25-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 899503)
Maybe you should tune into figure skating instead. :2

Do you really think judges there are any better? I am not the only one questioning FIFA's political correctness in allowing refs from non-soccer leagues (have no idea what else to call them) to be on the big stage. Ever see that in any other sport? Oh, right, figure skating...

I am guessing you never played organized soccer?

pnoon 06-25-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 899603)
Do you really think judges there are any better? I am not the only one questioning FIFA's political correctness in allowing refs from non-soccer leagues (have no idea what else to call them) to be on the big stage. Ever see that in any other sport? Oh, right, figure skating...

I am guessing you never played organized soccer?

Not only have I played but I've officiated for 12 years and taught introductory and intermediate referee classes.

But what the hell do I know?

My point is that if you are so disgusted and put off by it all, turn the sport off and go watch something else.

TheRiddick 06-25-2010 10:04 PM

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Its World Cup, what do you mean turn the TV off?

MortonMilo 06-25-2010 10:22 PM

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It's all very subjective in terms of making the calls. FIFA's wording in a lot of the rules are purposely vague to allow discretion to be used in making calls. Sometimes a handball isn't a handball.

pnoon 06-25-2010 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MortonMilo (Post 899647)
It's all very subjective in terms of making the calls. FIFA's wording in a lot of the rules are purposely vague to allow discretion to be used in making calls. Sometimes a handball isn't a handball.

To which "rules" are you referring?

Mugen910 06-25-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 899510)
Nice article and video I just read/watched. Pretty cool to see the reactions for around the country. :tu

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/wor...van062510.html

That was F*ckin awesome!

Don Fernando 06-26-2010 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 899333)
I am not absolutely sure, but you can see those in the stadium watching the screens right after goals. What do the screens show, then, save for ads and the crowd? Interestingly enough, we do not see the screen on TV, either.

Goals are allowed to be shown, fouls etc are not. I know because there was a lot of discussion and the rules were made after the worldcup for club teams in 1995 where my team Ajax beat Gremio and a Gremio player got send off because of a replay on the stadion screens. First (and last) time that ever happened.

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Let's say I am wrong on this point, no big deal to me, do you agree with both goals being counted when we can clearly see hand balls on TV screens (on the plays themselves, not just replays) and all 4 officials not seeing both? I was saying "Handball!" to myself, before any replays were played, we're talking old, smallish TV screen here without high resolution.
No doubt about some major **** up's by the refs. But it is a fast game on a large pitch with split second decisions, and those old FIFA farts won't allow replays or technical help. You can't blame the ref for all bad calls.

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And in case of Fabiano there is absolutely no doubt the ref has seen the handball as he gleefully discussed it with the player right after, smile and all. Who said bribery of refs is dead (in whatever shape/form it takes place)? Actually, Fabiano played handball twice to his advantage, on same play no less, as I pointed out above.
yeah, that was weird and discussed at the Dutch football talkshows, nobody understands.

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Ghana will be a tough game without a FIFA/ref playing favorites, but then again Ghana is the only African team left and something tells me the deck is going to be stacked yet again.

I just hope we get a decent ref tomorrow, for a change. Two in a row is brutal, 3 in a row is a kiss of death. FIFA is obviously stacking the deck against USA so far all the while claiming the sport brings people together? I guess only vodka does that.
On the other hand, the FIFA wants to grow in the US, so they might make up for previous ****ups and pick their side.

Superbad 06-26-2010 07:36 AM

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Go USA! I can't wait for the game to start.

md4958 06-26-2010 03:04 PM

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What a shame... Looks like Im rooting for Argentina now.

On the bright side, Ive discovered the joys of watching the games on the Spanish channel. Out of desperation (the streaming signal kept going out) I found the game online in Spanish. Yes, I have no clue what they are saying (sounds mostly like players names to me) but at least I dont have to listen to those irritating ESPN commentators. Those guys irk the chit out of me... doesnt it seem like the are constantly looking for useless banter to jabber on about?

Apoco 06-26-2010 03:08 PM

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Ok, USA. You've won me over. I won't run screaming from the room when futbol/soccer comes on now.

Superbad 06-26-2010 03:13 PM

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What a game! Sad we lost, but I am glad US Socer has gained more fans.

MortonMilo 06-26-2010 03:16 PM

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Regardless of the outcome, the patriotism beats strong in my heart.

md4958 06-26-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MortonMilo (Post 900137)
Regardless of the outcome, the patriotism beats strong in my heart.

Watch that video Adam posted, it brought tears of pride to my eyes!

hotreds 06-26-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 900130)
What a shame... Looks like Im rooting for Argentina now.

On the bright side, Ive discovered the joys of watching the games on the Spanish channel. Out of desperation (the streaming signal kept going out) I found the game online in Spanish. Yes, I have no clue what they are saying (sounds mostly like players names to me) but at least I dont have to listen to those irritating ESPN commentators. Those guys irk the chit out of me... doesnt it seem like the are constantly looking for useless banter to jabber on about?

I actually think ESPN has done a good job. However, back when I had my bud(big ugly dish) I'd search the skies for backhaul feeds and watch the games in Italian- some great announcers there! I find the endless "gooooal" yell to be a bit old, now, frankly. I don't know about now, but back in the day the Italians didn't even use the term "goal." They said "rete" for "net."

Don Fernando 06-27-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958 (Post 900130)
What a shame... Looks like Im rooting for Argentina now.

:fl and I thought we were friends Moe, and that you would support The Netherlands now that Italy and the USA are eliminated.





































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