Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851524)

Neo Nazis= violence
kkk= violence

I don't think they would have very much protected under the First Amendment.

Also, I think that if the school actually had violence because of the kids wearing the shirts, then it would be a different story. I don't think there was any violence that day.

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 851529)

They are well protected under the First Amendment. And according to WWW.KKK.com "[the KKK] do not promote violence-EVER!" I invite you to take a look at some of the legitimate groups the First Amendment protects at this link. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map Just go to the map and click on an area.

And of course there was no violence that day. It's what the principal was trying to prevent! That's the whole point!

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851528)

I think more info surfacing will help.

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851533)

When were they sent home?

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 851536)

:confused:

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 851535)

With this comment I can see that you're missing the entire point and obviously not using critical thinking skills. Too bad. I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851528)

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 851535)

With this comment I can see that you're missing the entire point and obviously not using critical thinking skills. Too bad. I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851537)

Like what time of day? I think that would make a difference.

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 851538)

Nate isn't ignorant at all, Mario. It's probably best that ALL parties with differences in this thread agree to disagree. We're all friends here. :)

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851540)

Not sure why you are calling me ignorant? Just stating my opinion, and I am respecting yours.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851524)

Neo Nazis= violence

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 851545)

I hate Illinois Nazis...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8_aJcul6kk

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851528)

I think more info surfacing will help.

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851503)

Your not just a grouchy Veteran Darrell:r I agree with your opinion though. No one is going to tell me not to wear my Country's colors, on any day of the year.

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 851597)

You're not a minor in an institution. Schools have dress codes and they can forbid any kind of dress or colors they deem necessary.
You have to differentiate school from the street.

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Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 851586)

I believe I read somewhere that 40 percent of the school is considered "Hispanic" but that ethnic background is no indication of how many are American. In fact, I would say that the vast majority of the students are probably American citizens.

I don't think the kids were trying to start a riot by wearing the American flag. I do think they were trying to make a statement about the school celebrating "Cinco de Mayo."

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 851874)

UPDATE:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93065324.html

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 851386)

We were discussing history and how it affects the symbolism and politics of a nation in my Political Science class today. After a story of someone wearing a Hitler costume on Halloween to a class with a Jewish professor, and wearing a KKK outfit to a class with an African American professor, our professor brought up this topic. Although it is not as blunt as the other two stories given, the point was still quite obvious. A possibly volatile situation is was dealt with before it had a chance to escalate. With the racial profiling and immigration laws of recent years and especially as of late going on today the message the boys were sending was obviously of an aggressive nature. Before one blames the principal for his actions they should try walking in his shoes first.

America is a beautiful melting pot comprised of it's diverse population. The various ethnic and cultural backgrounds which makes up America should all be respected and well treated.

Instead of spending so much energy on this topic take a poke at some of these folks.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

P.S. Why is this thread still open? It is clearly political.

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 851944)

I have stayed out of this until this post. The various ethnic and cultural groups owe their first loyalty to this country and to our country's flag and this used to be the way it was. Your hate map includes the various organizations dedicated to enforcing immigration laws so it lacks some credibility.

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 851544)

I'm not stating ignorance in all things. Apparently there is some ignorance involved in this issue if antagonism in this case cannot be seen when it is so clear. Ignorance is "lack of knowledge" and when used correctly pertains to something rather than the whole. If it is truly believed that there was no ill will on the part of the kids then there is likely some ignorance involved in experience with these matters.

Oh, and Darrell, we are all ignorant in regards to at least some things. If you and I weren't, for example, we wouldn't be in school now, would we?

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 851517)

Also, like Tom said, Im sure we can all keep this NON-political:)

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 852481)

How would you say that the antagonism is so clear?

Again, if you don't get it then you just do not get it, period.


I guess the mods should have said to keep it non-political and also RESPECTFUL.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mariogolbee (Post 852498)

I did not see that stating the obvious is disrespectful and I meant no disrespect by it.