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I truly wonder how much Apple loyalty is merely Gates-phobia.

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Bill Gates is the devil! :tf



actually, its Balmer (aka the antichrist) you gotta look out for!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3729713522403#

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Do we really need another Mac vs PC thread? :rolleyes:

How about Ford vs. Chevy, just for a change? ;)

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The market has certainly changed. I remember when Motorola's Star Tac was *the* phone to have. :r
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it was a tank that always worked too, i don't think you could break the damn thing if you tried

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ok... some quick comments. I could easily write a dissertation on this one, but i'll try to resist.

After being a lifetime Windows Mobile user, I switched to the moto droid back in November. Best thing I ever did. The simple truth of the matter is, Windows Mobile will ALWAYS disappoint you in the end. You'll be waiting for the next release (in this case winmo7), but when it finally comes out, and FINALLY is available on your device a year later, you'll discover that it is already 2 years out of date, and it will still be running the same flawed platform. I just can't recommend WinMo at all... and I'm a mac hating windows guy.

Moses, you seem like a tech savvy guy, so you may even be able to experiment with the custom roms for Android. I've had GREAT success with them after going through a couple day learning curve, and I really upped the responsiveness of my phone. Regarding updates, if you install a rom like Cyanogen's, he pulls his stuff out of the android source tree directly, So you DONT have to wait for it to filter down through HTC, Motorola, Verizon, etc. ... and the custom rom scene these days is A LOT better than it was in the early G1 days. There's some solid options and less chance of bricking -- I know the Droid has a recovery option that basically ensures is impossible to brick the phone unless the power fails while you are running that recovery.... and the Nexus 1 has BUILT IN support for changing roms, no hacking required.

Android is a young platform and is just now getting its act in gear... but honestly, It's on track to be on par win WinMo7 by the time it comes out.... and keep improving from there. The Droid really pushed it into the mainstream, and from that we've seen an explosion of interest, developers, and apps.

Visual Voice mail is becoming available on a lot of phones these days. It was an option for my droid, tho I use something else. I use www.simulscribe.com - few bucks a month and I get my voicemails converted to text and emailed/txted to me. if I want to listen to it, I just click the attachment in my email (on the phone of course).... but I rarely have to listen to it, its usually accurate enough not to need it.

just a few thoughts from my end...

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:tpd: I had one of those for YEARS.... thing was indestructible and always had a signal.

Are you thinking of the MicroTac? That was the one that looked like a (slightly) smaller version of the military walkie-talkies. The StarTac was a tiny flip phone (I think it may have been the first flip phone). It's still smaller than a lot of modern phones.
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Nope, I meant the startac.... and yes it was the first flip phone

I meant a tank as far as construction, not size

Yeah, they were pretty durable. I think I still have my black StarTac around somewhere. The MicroTac looked like you could run it over and still make a call.
Anyway, back to topic. From the mobile news I follow, it seems more and more companies are jumping on the Android bandwagon. Seems funny, but the iPhone is IE in this market to Android's Firefox.
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Francis why do you subscribe to that program when google voice has a speech transcriber that does the same for free? I get my VM through email and txtmsg.
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Android is a solid platform, I really do like my Droid. And it isn't like any other companies could even hop on the iPhone OS bandwagon if they wanted to. Will be interesting to see what happens if it actually does come to Verizon

Well, right now I think Apple benefits from AT&T's anti-CDMA ads. Personally, I don't consider it a big deal to hang up a call, look up something on Google Maps or the web, then call back or send an e-mail (I'm on Sprint).
You're right, though: expanding to more carriers can only help the iPhone. The question is, will Apple take that step quick enough to counter Android's growing presence? I think pretty much every carrier has an Android-based phone or three by now. People like choices, especially us geeks.
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when I tested it 6 months ago the gvoice transcriber worked terrible compared to simulscribe.

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Sorry you had some bad experiences... I wanted to buy an iPhone almost two years ago and didn't. I have been waiting since then. On April 25 I am eligible for an upgrade and will get it. Since 1987 I have been an Apple geek and love how all of my stuff just simply works together. I could care less if it costs my a little more each month. I just want it to work and it will.

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I have the original iphone and have never had a problem with it, my wife has the newer 3Gs and loves it, she had a Blackberry and that was the biggest POS phone I've ever seen.

When I added my wife, daughters and son to my At&T account we paid considerably less than when we were on different carriers. AT&T is the best option on our area for coverage so I'll stick with both AT&T and the iPhone. Oh and the discount my wife gets for working at Wal-Mart makes it even better.

Just like cigars use (smoke) what you like and like what you use (smoke).

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RIP, Palm. Verizon can't even give the Pre away these days at a two for one deal. Developers don't want to write for the OS etc.

Palm had it all, and pissed it all away.

It certainly looks that way, unfortunately. The Pre could have been a hit, but the lack of SD card support and no local sync option were big minuses, IMO.
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I was very excited when the pre came out. I had been wanting (AND STILL DO DAMNIT!!) a phone with a full touch screen and PORTRAIT keyboard. My old Samsung i730 had that and I believe it is the superior way, speed wise, to enter text. Hell, just look at blackberry.... ALL OF THEM are portrait keyboards.... yet android phones and winmo phones seem to insist on landscape keyboards :(. Anyway, I was excited for the Pre... but it never took off. Goodbye Palm, you had your chance and you blew it.

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moses, I have the nexus one and it's a great piece of hardware (htc does the best job at covering your "rugged" requirement in my opinion). The Android platform and overall googliness of this phone is a pure joy to work with and it comes with access to google voice, visual voicemail (text transcriptions and a web interface as well).

Just wanted to say that going from an iPhone to WinMo is going to be a painful user experience, with android 2.1 or better you'll be liking it. Been using winmo for 6 or 7 years I think and it just sucks for finger use, caveat being I quit at 6.5, 7 might be better. If you do end up going winmo let me know, I have a bunch of add-on apps that make it MUCH more user friendly for fingers and handsome too

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Which is another reason why I don't have an Iphone. I don't like being told what carrier I have to use.

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I've owned Fords. I've owned Chevys. I buy mostly Dodge.

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I'm not an apple guy.

I have a blackberry and love it- I can't imagine a less useful phone than the iphone- you HAVE to sync it with iTunes, no multitasking, no tactile feedback with typing, no user replaceable battery or memory card support.
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One of the main reasons I use one is because of iTunes and how easily things transfer. To each his own ...

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You don't have to sync it with itunes, and it has multitasking soon (really awesome if you saw the vid)

Tactile feedback is sort of a personal choice so cannot comment on that.

The non-user replaceable battery is a *****, tho.

I can think of something less useful though, its called a WiMo phone! lol. I don't care who you are thats funny right there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3XdOl5YtLg

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:tu

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Saw this post on gizmodo and went damn:

http://gizmodo.com/5513619/all-amazo...ale-for-1-cent

Then saw Droid phone for 20 and went double damn!

http://wireless.amazon.com/Motorola-...ref=sh_br_ph_1

I might have traded in my first gen iphone for the droid if I didn't have to use verizon.

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I too am anti-apple. Over rated. Had an I-touch and it was a PIECE so why would i spend that much on a phone that i CAN'T insure. I went with the new DROID and friggin love it. Has tons of apps and is insurable.

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and the flaming continues! This time with not even half truths but complete lies

this just in: apple has even more apps and is also insurable :tu


edit: I'd also like if you could elaborate just slightly on with the iTouch is a "piece"

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I'd go back to my old winmo phone *shudder* before giving up Verizon....

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Jim,
I would join in and help you out BUT why bother?
Seriously, why bother? We can't change minds and won't.

The other day, while in Ft. Worth, I went to James' house (Croatan).
I could swear there were 8 to 10 of us there, at least.
I think all but one had an iPhone on the the table.

What does that mean?
Heck if I know other than if it sucked that badly, why would 9 out of 10 be so happy with them?

Hmmmm...................

I travel a whole lot.
I swear I am seeing twice as many iPhones now than Crackberries.
There was a time that was the opposite but not anymore.
What does that mean?
Heck if I know other than if it sucked that badly, why would so many more of them be out there now visibly to me than Crackberries or Droids or whatever?

Hmmmm....................

Me? I love mine.
Can't wait for the new one in the summer and the 4.0 system that will allow multitasking (more advanced that leaves files open unlike the one available now), folders for apps, and on and on.

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You mean Apple Care? That only works from the original purchase date, so it would have been useless to me. Replacements don't work under Apple Care.

It does not matter how many apps are out there. Apps that I need are the only ones that are relevent. I'd rather have a phone that is durable like Motorola makes than play Pac Man.

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Moses,
Luck varies of course but mine, my son's, and everyone else I know that has one has not had any issues with them.
I know that doesn't console you any but other than you, I really don't know anyone that has a negative to say about an iPhone.
They are neat, useful toys.
I would be lost without mine.

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It is just the blind apple faithful Carlos that will buy any and every piece of sh*t the company puts out!


Hell Moses, you should see how many Apple products Carlos destroys, and he is still hanging with them! lol.

And you really couldn't buy apple care for your phone even though it was purchased at full price? I would understand if they replaced the phone because you had apple care that the warranty wouldn't start over, but you paid $199 for another phone... it doesn't make sense that if you purchased a new device that you couldn't get apple care for it.

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No not apple care. There are third party providers who offer insurance for
the iPhone at reasonable rates, and the policies cover
accidental physical damage as well, eg a shattered screen from dropping it

I've had winmo phones bb's and now the iPhone IMO the
iPhone is better than any of the
other options out there but that's just me. For
those who can't get used to the idea of no having a physical keyboard you'd better get used to it. Today, tomorrow, or 3 years from now they ARE goi g away eventually. Haven you ever seen star trek, LOL

I've gotten to
the
point where I can type far faster on
my
iPhone then I ever could on a blackberry

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Yes, good point Vic. I figured there was 3rd party, but apple care is usually pretty good (maybe not for the iPhone, I wouldn't know.... don't have one)


and I'm starting to think that it isn't Apple users that blindly follow any products they put out just because its Apple, but Apple haters that blindly hate every product that comes out because its Apple

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Interesting Jim.
I have many Apple products now.
I have them because I love their innovation, their look and the ease of use.
I don't buy anything blindly and I am not faithful to any brand.
I follow my desires at that point in time and who offers the best product for MY personal likes.

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Nameco makes pacman for the Droid ;) :tg

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i've been using dos based operating systems for 23 years....after having a mac I see no reason to ever run windows again. except for that crap that they put out as office for mac...dual booting is the way to go if you have to use office

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Jim,
Check out the new features coming for the 4.0 OS for the iPhone.

Clicky

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come on now, Carlos.... you know me.

I was following the live blog of the keynote post by post LOL

However, none of it makes a damn bit of difference until it actually shows up on Verizon

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:r:r:r

Silly me.
And true on the Verizon piece.
I think I will laugh silly the day Verizon does get it as they will be making lines around the block, to wait for the next shipment no less.

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Replace "windows" with "windows mobile" :)

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia...shasissues.png

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I don't find iTunes a useful program. It's buggy and bloated, slow, and I like to drag and drop files to my phone/mp3 player- which I couldn't do with my iPod.

I don't blindly hate apple, I have used several apple products, and I find them to be overhyped and underwhelming. i.e.:It's taken apple 3 years to figure out that people like to do more than one thing at a time?

The BIGGEST problem is the lack of memory card support. For professionals who do lots of work on their phone, not being able to back up presentations, quotes, invoices and receipts to a removable card is ridiculous. Imagine doing hours of work, then losing it all due to theft, misplacing your phone, or breaking.

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How exactly would a memory card (that is in your phone) benefit you in those two situations? :)

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I'm not an itunes fan either, but aside from jailbreaking my iphone, I'm stuck with it.
At times I've had as many as a dozen ipods, I used to sell them at ebay. I've never used itunes with them. I always used Ephpod for file transfer and tagrunner for automatically fixing my tags and adding lyrics.
I'm sincerely hoping that someday itunes wont suck, and it is getting better slowly.
As soon as I find something that'll work with my iphone (and I haven't looked recently), I'm sure I'll move away from itunes again. :tu

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I watched the ipad rollout live, but got in late for the iphone OS meeting. I didn't know about it till you posted about it. :)
I still caught the last 10 or 20 minutes live.

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I could understand how people used to having a removable drive would not like the idea of not having one. I have a card in my Droid and have never taken it out. And for apple, the ability to sync with your idisk (if you have one) sort of would settle that problem for me..... but not everyone would be satisfied.

I don't think apple is for everyone, its just people that can't say "I just prefer having these options that apple doesn't offer" instead of "apple blows! they can't do this or this or this and PC has since 1988!"

The bashing without citing facts (or citing facts that are ridiculously inaccurate lol) just irks me

If it was in your phone it wouldn't. But if you back up your work to a removable card, then put the card in a seperate location you would have a backup. But Apple doesn't think this is a good idea somehow.
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