Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

The lighter color is the plume

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Sorry about the size of the picture. But both spots look round and fuzzy. I did not want to bias anyone's opinion as to what I thought it was (I said mold on this and several other sticks this BOTL says is plume). Not really worth arguing about but he is supposed to know the difference. From my experience, plume has always been somewhat scattered all over the stick with tiny crystalline specks. Not huge, round fuzzballs.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

I'm new here and the original examples pictures now are dead links. So I thought I'd update with some rather epic plume pics.

http://vvcap.net/db/sgCFeCKdX7rlsuj4petd.pnghttp://vvcap.net/db/Lv754Ab26Usz1NwMh-Jr.png

Flawless cigar
http://vvcap.net/db/nLlBAXwwNoue_Hl2-NwB.png

Empty yellow plumed out cello
http://vvcap.net/db/-FDavzrSqT-uDukaf7FJ.png

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Uh, that would be mold.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Ummmm, sorry to disappoint, but plume does not grow on cellophane, mold does however.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Absolutely not. The cigar was perfect. New to the forum, not new to smoke'n.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Never seen patchy plume before. Mold, on the other hand...

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

:tpd:

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

bishes

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

A more suspicious BOTL would see that this was your first post, and think that possibly you were trolling for a reaction, and know that it is indeed mold. But like you, I am a giver, so I will just assume you are mistaken. :)

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Yea icehog3, I hear ya but definitely not the case.

So I'm clear here, the consensus is that mold will grow inside and outside of cello while never ever being on the cigars? Because that is exactly the case here. Rub the stuff with your finger and it comes right off. I'm not trying to argue here. Just asking more questions.

I've had mold on my cigars in the past(humi too full and too close to the humidifier) and this looks nothing like it. It's like a sticky dusty film on the cello. The cello actually feels dirty/sticky.

Here is a high res photo of another cigar, diff vitola but same year/blend. Again, the cigar is perfect with regards to any growth on it.
http://lookpic.com/O/i2/943/AWqPuIEp.jpeg

--TG :)

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

No. Not sure where you got that from, but mold can occur on both the cello and the cigar. Plume, on the other hand, can only occur on the cigar.

The rub test isn't a definitive test. If the surface is smooth, it's pretty much worthless.

Plume is crystalline, not sticky.

403 - forbidden error.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Your new link is dead. But your old links look like mold... it's patchy, plume isn't patchy, mold tho.....

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

FFS!!!!!!!! no idea why that link is dead.

http://vvcap.net/db/JBv-IQPgj8MgFYM8nNSJ.png

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Maybe it's just a bad photo, but I see nothing in this photo that would indicate the existence of plume or mold.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

A darker background may bring out the residue that is now in question. The top cell is from the original photos above, the lonsdale. The bottom is cello from the figurado, pic above.

http://vvcap.net/db/ywKA_gm6Vz75VriFL0vK.png

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

bishes

:po

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Could be water spots or other deposits, possibly old/dead mold colonies.

Plume is a very fine crystalline deposit that will typically occur evenly across the entire capa (wrapper) leaf of a cigar. It can, in theory occur on any tobacco, but for obvious reasons, if it occurs elsewhere in the cigar, we won't be able to see it. It's oil/mineral/sugars coming out of the leaf and crystallizing on it's surface.

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

:bh

Re: Plume or Bloom vs. Mold
 

Plume or bloom is are crystalline structures formed by the oils of tobacco. There is no evidence positive or negative that show any benefits to taste or flavor. Even light mold really has no detrimental effect unless it has penetrated the foot and corrupted the filler or binder. :2