Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 751985)

I still have no idea what any of this have to do with smoking cigars. Very few wine drinkers know much about wine history, hell, even professional writers know little, and yet it doesn't stop anyone from enjoying cigars.

A quiz better tuned to cigar smokers would be like this:

1. Who was the good for nothing actor idiot to use children as ruse to raise taxes on tobacco products sold in Kalifornia in late 1990s? And where did the money go?

2. When Federal level SCHIP tax kicked in last year, similar to the one passed in Kalifornia in the '90s, why wasn't similar Kalifornia tax repealed? Are Kalifornia kids getting double the benefit now with 2 taxes "helping them out"? Where does the money go in both cases?

3. When marijuana growing and sales are legally approved in Kalifornia, what odds are there that someone in Sacramento's "think tank" (yeah, I know, a huge stretch of imagination) will find a way to tie in sale of tobacco products to marijuana sales to raise taxes on tobacco even higher? 5-1? 10-1? 50-1?

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 752036)

How does knowing about tobacco and alcohol tax proposal of 1794 make you enjoy cigars more? Or what Churchill called his "paper" trick given the fact that no one else has used it since? Do you know what size and shape was it and HOW it was used meaning just how it fit over a cigar? What kind of paper used? Does the creator of the quiz?

Just curious.

Like I said, even really serious wine drinkers won't pass a well put together wine history quiz, I'd bet 90% fail even on professional level, and yet I have never heard anyone tell me that this lack of wine history knowledge makes them enjoy wine less. I'll even state that 90% of so called "sommeliers" in restaurants know very little about wine based on my experience and interacting with them. Yet I am sure they do enjoy wines tremendously.

It would make more sense if cigar smokers could ID cigar components in a blind taste. THAT is the true enjoyment of cigars, IMO, and true knowledge of a product.

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 752178)

We seem to be talking apples and oranges :-(

I am not against historical trivia, been reading all sorts of cigar history for years (decades, actually) now. Still, what does knowing that Churchill came up with a "paper holder" without MORE info on it do for anyone's cigar enjoyment, especially since no one has used the method since. And if I hand you a cigar, will you be able to tell me what rolling method has been used (save for the obvious figurado and machine made cigars)? That's my point, the quiz didn't do much in terms of educating anyone on much. If this is how the author of the quiz is "educating" people, then I can tell she is not making much progress. IMHO, of course, and you mileage will vary.

Originally Posted by Texan in Mexico (Post 752711)

I am surprised that the Admiral has not applied the Monkey Balm yet!
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Originally Posted by FriendlyMan (Post 752999)

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 753013)

And what might that be?

Please provide more information to the members here so that they can choose to go there or not.

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 751125)

Oh, hell, I'll take a stab:

1. Cheesecloth is used to shade tobacco plants from harsh sun rays. Once harvested, cheesecloth is dropped and re-used as side-wall frame in next harvest. Corojo wrapper is tied to the cheesecloth frame to ensure it grows upright (and stronger).


2. Bunching methods. I thought there are 5, actually, any reason she is missing one? Anyway... In order of least complex to most complex:

Lieberman bunch, bunching technique used for machine rolled cigars
Book bunch
Accordion bunch
Entubado bunch, aka Entubar

There is also a Figurado (Hybrid) bunch - complexity wise on Entubado level and probably even more so, very intolerant to mistakes while bunching. Not sure why she has not included this method in her question unless she does not consider Lieberman bunch a "method".

3. Sir Walter Raleigh?

4. Alexander Hamilton's proposed tax package of 1794.

5. Cohiba is Taino Indians' word for tobacco plant. This is where I disagreed with a recent thread's premise and stated then and stating now that Cohiba, as a BRAND, was officially introduced in 1982, band, box and all.

6. Bellybando.

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 752036)

How does knowing about tobacco and alcohol tax proposal of 1794 make you enjoy cigars more? Or what Churchill called his "paper" trick given the fact that no one else has used it since? Do you know what size and shape was it and HOW it was used meaning just how it fit over a cigar? What kind of paper used? Does the creator of the quiz?

Just curious.

Like I said, even really serious wine drinkers won't pass a well put together wine history quiz, I'd bet 90% fail even on professional level, and yet I have never heard anyone tell me that this lack of wine history knowledge makes them enjoy wine less. I'll even state that 90% of so called "sommeliers" in restaurants know very little about wine based on my experience and interacting with them. Yet I am sure they do enjoy wines tremendously.

It would make more sense if cigar smokers could ID cigar components in a blind taste. THAT is the true enjoyment of cigars, IMO, and true knowledge of a product.

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 753013)

And what might that be?

Please provide more information to the members here so that they can choose to go there or not.

Originally Posted by Robert Mabona (Post 753088)

try me

Originally Posted by Robert Mabona (Post 753088)

try me

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 753104)

You really think you can do better than the likes of Laube, Heimoff, Parker, Stone and others?

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 753104)

You really think you can do better than the likes of Laube, Heimoff, Parker, Stone and others?