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replicant_argent 01-30-2010 07:49 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Looks decidedly more AK-ish than Uzi-ish... but it shore is purty..:r
That surface is a fingerprint technicians wet dream I imagine.

http://www.helstongunsmiths.com/shop...icture-055.jpg

Mark C 01-30-2010 08:20 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 741531)
Have you tested it to prove the research though?
Patterns nice. My wife won't let me shoot in the house, so I can't test penetration, and I can't convince anyone to stand on the business end of the gun to test stopping power, so negative on that one also. Guess I'll just have to trust what others have done.

0002S 01-30-2010 08:35 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot17.htm

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot22.htm



Interesting article and site

JE3146 01-30-2010 09:50 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 741606)
Patterns nice. My wife won't let me shoot in the house, so I can't test penetration, and I can't convince anyone to stand on the business end of the gun to test stopping power, so negative on that one also. Guess I'll just have to trust what others have done.
:r!

Get a chunk of drywall from Home Depot or something. That's what I did to test penetration. 2 layers with an air gap from some 2x4's provide a nice simulation. Just set up a piece of paper on the opposite end about 6 inches past that and have at her :D

Mark C 01-31-2010 06:30 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 741691)
:r!

Get a chunk of drywall from Home Depot or something. That's what I did to test penetration. 2 layers with an air gap from some 2x4's provide a nice simulation. Just set up a piece of paper on the opposite end about 6 inches past that and have at her :D
Would love to, but I haven't found a range nearby that would let me shoot anything other than paper targets and clays. Maybe I'll keep a setup in the car for the days when nobody's around. Since I think that rule is geared at 'reactive targets', maybe they wouldn't mind...

Here's another site for shotgun load info:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=7&t=109958

gettysburgfreak 01-31-2010 10:15 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 741576)
wow, the Mexican drug lords are not only well armed, but also gold plating their Uzis...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_3028.jpg

guess when the money piles up, you gotta find some way to spend it...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_2111.jpg

That picture reminds me of a picture they showed us here at the academy. It was a mexican drug lords house they raided and it had a room containing 230 million dollars worth of cash stacked up. Just plain ridiculous.

AAlmeter 01-31-2010 08:11 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
"Old Painless" does some great work. I have access to a great variety of shotguns and plan on doing a lot of shotgun testing for both hunting and home defense purposes once it gets back up into double digit temperatures here in Buffalo. I'll surely post results to this thread and if anyone has any suggestions/theories/questions they'd like tried out, I'll be sure to give them a whirl. The first one to go is the accuracy of a rifled slug out of a rifled barrel. OP touched on this, but if his results are repeatable, it could mean a lot to hunters in my area who are stuck with slugs only.

elderboy02 01-31-2010 08:33 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AAlmeter (Post 742647)
"Old Painless" does some great work. I have access to a great variety of shotguns and plan on doing a lot of shotgun testing for both hunting and home defense purposes once it gets back up into double digit temperatures here in Buffalo. I'll surely post results to this thread and if anyone has any suggestions/theories/questions they'd like tried out, I'll be sure to give them a whirl. The first one to go is the accuracy of a rifled slug out of a rifled barrel. OP touched on this, but if his results are repeatable, it could mean a lot to hunters in my area who are stuck with slugs only.
I love Old Painless' work. He is a great guy.

357 01-31-2010 09:19 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 742170)
That picture reminds me of a picture they showed us here at the academy. It was a mexican drug lords house they raided and it had a room containing 230 million dollars worth of cash stacked up. Just plain ridiculous.
They didn't find it stacked that way. It was hidden in the walls, etc. Here's the full story:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/drugmoney.asp

GreekGodX 02-01-2010 02:38 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
So I wonder if anyone skimmed any cream off the top of that big pile 'o money :D

Deputy 02-01-2010 12:18 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I love guns. My first gun was a Glock 22....haven't looked back since!

Cigarcop 02-01-2010 02:03 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 742866)
So I wonder if anyone skimmed any cream off the top of that big pile 'o money :D

Ahhh, what I could do with just one row :(

gettysburgfreak 02-01-2010 06:07 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 357 (Post 742689)
They didn't find it stacked that way. It was hidden in the walls, etc. Here's the full story:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/drugmoney.asp


Thanks for the article, that was indeed the picture they showed us, pretty cool to read the full story.

M1903A1 02-02-2010 04:27 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 741576)
wow, the Mexican drug lords are not only well armed, but also gold plating their Uzis...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_3028.jpg

guess when the money piles up, you gotta find some way to spend it...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...lords_2111.jpg
Reminds me of what somebody did to a 1941 Johnson rifle (a $3000+ collector's piece in good original form) that I saw at a show last fall. :pu :pu :pu

357 02-02-2010 06:22 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak (Post 743686)
Thanks for the article, that was indeed the picture they showed us, pretty cool to read the full story.
NP. It's a pretty crazy story. The guy got away...for a while.

Tikihut27 02-03-2010 03:47 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
My new toy from a show this past weekend. Always wanted one.

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/m...n/IMG_0024.jpg

Wolfgang 02-06-2010 12:28 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Looking to help mt gun fund. Thought I would let you all in on it.

Spyderco Persistence FS

smokeyandthebandit05 02-06-2010 09:10 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I finally got my Del-Ton upper. It fits like a glove and the finish its pretty much perfect. There is only one spot by the flash suppressor that is very slightly showing thru but I would have to say its just from assembly and handling. Other than that I could not be happier. It took about 13 days total to order it, build it, and ship it from NC. :tu

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...DSC01056-1.jpg

elderboy02 02-17-2010 06:26 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 750320)
I finally got my Del-Ton upper. It fits like a glove and the finish its pretty much perfect. There is only one spot by the flash suppressor that is very slightly showing thru but I would have to say its just from assembly and handling. Other than that I could not be happier. It took about 13 days total to order it, build it, and ship it from NC. :tu

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...DSC01056-1.jpg
Nice!

elderboy02 02-17-2010 06:28 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Here is my latest purchase. AR15.com 2 years ago had the idea of making some lowers. 2 years later, they offered them to lifetime members 1st. I requested #69 :) Just picked this up today. Oh yeah, everytime they do the instant background check, I just am so happy I wasn't old enough to buy guns back in the day when you had to wait days for the background check.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0427.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0432.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/IMG_0433.jpg

bonjing 02-17-2010 07:26 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
elderboy, do they still have that lower available? I have the urge to build something new. I'm looking for a sundevil and maybe a mega.

elderboy02 02-17-2010 09:19 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 762936)
elderboy, do they still have that lower available? I have the urge to build something new. I'm looking for a sundevil and maybe a mega.
Us lifetime members got the 1st shot at them. Now that is finished and they will be selling some. See Goatboy's post on this page for more info: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=996698&page=4 Hope this helps :tu

GreekGodX 02-18-2010 03:58 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I'd imagine this would be a quality start for an AR :hm Might have to look into this..

Ender 02-18-2010 06:50 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 739096)
Anybody have any thoughts on a HK 45c?? My local store has a like new one for 889. They said it has been fired once. Good deal? I've only shot the full size 45.
Hey Christos! I just found this thread. Wish I found it earlier. Anyway, I've shot that HK .45c before. It's good for a compact. Just more difficult to be accurate as the full size. Obviously that's goes for most compacts but if you needed a compact in a .45 then I suggest it. I LOVE the HK .45.

bonjing 02-18-2010 02:02 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 763072)
Us lifetime members got the 1st shot at them. Now that is finished and they will be selling some. See Goatboy's post on this page for more info: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=996698&page=4 Hope this helps :tu
Thanks elderboy! ! ! hope they have plans to sell to california, we'd probably buy them out!

Col. Kurtz 02-18-2010 04:18 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
My Valentine's day present from the wife. Never been much on Taurus, but I just couldn't resist this little thing. 709 Slim, single stack 9mm. Great carry gun.

It is very comfortable both IWB and in a pancake.

So far, I love it. Now I just need 300 rounds through it so I'll have confidence in it.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...2/DSCN9018.jpg

Edit,

Just got a little misty putting my trusty 92FS in the safe.....

replicant_argent 02-18-2010 04:59 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/fi...6&mid=FNM0138#
Daddy want... a Bullpup poodle shooter that accepts M-16 mags. Looks like a prop from a Sci-Fi movie.

at 2200 bucks... maybe not. Yet....

elderboy02 02-18-2010 07:22 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Nice pickup Col.

replicant_argent 02-18-2010 07:29 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
and a great warranty, too, Jerry, nice.

SvilleKid 02-18-2010 07:37 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Not my first, by any means, but one I've kinda been looking for. Just picked up a S&W model 19. .357 Magnum. Stainless steel, 3 inch barrel. New old stock. New in original box. Never fired. Never opened. Never even had cylinder spun. No spin ring on cylinder.

Haven't decided if I'll open, load and shoot it, or leave it in new condition. I've been watching for a .357 revolver for a while as a shooter, so I'm kinda leaning towards using the gun.

Snapperhead 02-18-2010 07:42 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
That Taurus slim is nice. I have the mil Pro 9mm and I love mine. It shoots great and I have not had a FTF yet (2500 Rounds). I just wish it had a rail to mount a light/laser.

Pilon 02-18-2010 08:52 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapperhead (Post 764257)
That Taurus slim is nice. I have the mil Pro 9mm and I love mine. It shoots great and I have not had a FTF yet (2500 Rounds). I just wish it had a rail to mount a light/laser.
Too bad they don't have a Crimson Trace Laser Grip for it.

theonlybear4CORT 02-18-2010 11:54 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Got my trijicon ns back from www.xd-hs2000.com man I really dig them. also if you have a xd trust these guys for your sight install there a class act :tu

DeltaUpsilon 02-19-2010 02:20 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 762854)
Here is my latest purchase. AR15.com 2 years ago had the idea of making some lowers. 2 years later, they offered them to lifetime members 1st. I requested #69 :) Just picked this up today. Oh yeah, everytime they do the instant background check, I just am so happy I wasn't old enough to buy guns back in the day when you had to wait days for the background check.

[IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z282/elderboy02/AR15com%20Lower/IMG_0427.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z282/elderboy02/AR15com%20Lower/IMG_0432.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z282/elderboy02/AR15com%20Lower/IMG_0433.jpg[IMG]
Elderboy,
That is an AWESOME lower. I'm a team member for several years on ARFCOM but just made my way over to this forum.

But I know posts can be worthless without pics, so allow me to produce a little ATF pic I took tonight :D:

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...i/Guns/ATF.jpg

elderboy02 02-19-2010 05:05 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaUpsilon (Post 764585)
Elderboy,
That is an AWESOME lower. I'm a team member for several years on ARFCOM but just made my way over to this forum.

But I know posts can be worthless without pics, so allow me to produce a little ATF pic I took tonight :D:

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...i/Guns/ATF.jpg
Nice!

smokeyandthebandit05 02-20-2010 09:34 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Im thinking up picking up a Spikes .22 conversion for my AR but I have also looked at the CMMG and Ciener. Ive heard good things about all three but what would you guys go with for quality? Im just using this for plinking/ground hogs and such.

Is a conversion kit really less accurate than a dedicated .22 rifle cause .22 is a hair smaller than the .223 barrel?

My second option is to pick up a S&W M&P 15-22. The Spikes is around $200 and comes with 2 15 round mags (I hate NJ). The 15-22 is around $500 I believe.

J0eybb 02-20-2010 10:28 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...s/img_0967.jpg

JE3146 02-20-2010 11:04 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
That it? :r













:tu

TheManWithNoName 02-21-2010 12:10 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J0eybb (Post 766679)
My head just exploded :dr

Snapperhead 02-21-2010 12:20 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilon (Post 764334)
Too bad they don't have a Crimson Trace Laser Grip for it.
I saw a ad in a gun mag about the sight lasers now....a standard dove tail would work. I was going to look into this.....the pics do not look bad....

Link to Sights

elderboy02 02-21-2010 02:47 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J0eybb (Post 766679)
Very nice! :tu

Eagle53 02-22-2010 08:45 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
H&K USP-C 9MM
Beretta Model 948- .22
Browning Automatic Shotguns 12 &16 ga. Both made in Belgium and over 80 years old

hotreds 02-24-2010 08:08 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://images.media.nscdn.com/phpThu...g&w=400&h=1000

J0eybb 02-24-2010 09:16 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 766779)
That it? :r













:tu
Nope

Darrell 02-24-2010 09:22 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManWithNoName (Post 767126)
My head just exploded :dr
You obviously have not seen Ratters collection. :r

bonjing 02-24-2010 10:52 PM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotreds (Post 771798)
Wish I had one of those, keltec that is. Boss had one and it was fun to shoot. 40S&W with the glock big sticks :dr

smokeyandthebandit05 03-09-2010 09:35 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Well I got both my tax returns back and would like to buy a .22 semi auto.

Im thinking of either a Ruger 10/22 or the S&W M&P15-22.

If I get the Ruger I would either get another shotgun like an 870 and bank the rest. Or skip the shotgun and put the rest towards the car payment.

If I get the S&W I would only buy that and save the rest/car payment.

I just want this for fun and plinking. I have heard that the new 10/22's arent so accurate without a better barrel and trigger group and all that stuff, is this true?

Opinions? Opinions on other rifles like marlin, savage?

elderboy02 03-09-2010 09:46 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I have a 10/22 and it isn't modified at all. It is plenty accurate. I also have a Rem 870 shotgun, so I would lean toward the 10/22, 870 express combo :tu :gn

smokeyandthebandit05 03-10-2010 11:04 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Well I broke down and ordered a NJ compliant S&W M&M 15-22

Should be in tomorrow!

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...ectionId=10002

bigpedunn 03-10-2010 11:10 AM
Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
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