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VirtualSmitty 12-10-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 675443)
He'll never see left-handed pitching in the AL East....:r:r

He will, but he'll see a heckuva lot more right handed pitching ;)

yachties23 12-10-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 674995)
Austin Jackson finally gets his shot.

Guy hit 4 hrs in triple A last season. I know Reggie has proclaimed him the next big thing, but at best Jackson will be a Granderson type player in 3-5 years. Why not make the deal? The winter meetings have gone very well for the Yanks imo.

Mets offer deals to (shocker) Bengie Molina, and (lets pray) Jason Bay.

I was looking for a solid #2 to move everybody down a slot after Johan, but not sure that is going to happen with these deals on the table.

Starscream 12-10-2009 05:51 PM

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It's official. After two years of not playing, Barry Bonds' agent is reporting that Barry is retiring from baseball.

kelmac07 12-10-2009 08:00 PM

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Too funny...Mets going after Jason Bay. He came up with the Mets...think maybe they regret letting him go years ago?

MedicCook 12-10-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 675880)
It's official. After two years of not playing, Barry Bonds' agent is reporting that Barry is retiring from baseball.

They said he is not officially retireing, he is just not playing baseball anymore. :r Hopefully we will not have to hear about him for another 3+ years.

floydpink 12-11-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 676213)
They said he is not officially retireing, he is just not playing baseball anymore. :r Hopefully we will not have to hear about him for another 3+ years.

After 2 years of no takers, I think he's starting to reailze 45 is a good age to retire.

No disrespect, he IS the home run king after all.

MedicCook 12-11-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 676633)
After 2 years of no takers, I think he's starting to reailze 45 is a good age to retire.

No disrespect, he IS the home run king after all.

I did not like him when he was a skinny kid playing for the Pirates. When he is eligable for the HoF in a few years the debates are going to take over the sports world. I am looking forward to no Bonds talk for a few years until then.

ChicagoWhiteSox 12-11-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 676660)
I did not like him when he was a skinny kid playing for the Pirates. When he is eligable for the HoF in a few years the debates are going to take over the sports world. I am looking forward to no Bonds talk for a few years until then.

:tpd:

MedicCook 12-11-2009 11:30 PM

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THe White Sox picked up JJ Putz, 1yr $3M w/$3.25M more in incentives.

ChicagoWhiteSox 12-14-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 677561)
THe White Sox picked up JJ Putz, 1yr $3M w/$3.25M more in incentives.

:banger Hopefully he can help our bullpen.

kelmac07 12-14-2009 09:34 PM

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Philly letting Cliff Lee go for Halladay? I gotta say this is a bonehead move...pay Lee what he wants. He was money for you this year.

MedicCook 12-14-2009 09:52 PM

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I can see the reasoning if they felt like they were not going to be able to resign him after this year. They will have Doc for the next 4 years nows and they keep their #1 pitching prospect.

The other news is that Lackey and the Red Sox are close to a deal and the Red Sox have made an offer to the Cuban defector.

kelmac07 12-14-2009 10:09 PM

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But Drabek is part of the deal...I just don't see their reasoning. They just don't want to wrap a whole ton of money into Lee.

MedicCook 12-14-2009 10:26 PM

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That's a change from what I heard earlier then. It still could fall apart and the Yankees get him. :r

VirtualSmitty 12-15-2009 11:46 AM

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I don't mind the way the trade is looking. Philly with Lee and Halladay would be quite scary. Philly with just Halladay makes them a little bit better, but not considerably so.

The other moves don't bother me so much. Lackey going to Boston was actually a bit of a relief, rather him than Halladay. He's a very good pitcher but not a great one imho. The Yankees can hit him. And I think they are crazy giving him a bigger contract than what Burnett got, he's not as good as AJ.

Cameron is old and no Bay or Holliday. He's past his prime, I hope he becomes Bostons everyday left fielder :tu

MedicCook 12-15-2009 11:51 AM

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Cameron also has played very little in LF and now he will be playing in the hardest LF in baseball.

ChicagoWhiteSox 12-16-2009 07:18 AM

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Sox pick up Juan Pierre for a leadoff role.

The White Sox are looking a lot better going into 2010. They have one of the best pitching rotations Ive seen in years.

kelmac07 12-16-2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox (Post 682769)
Sox pick up Juan Pierre for a leadoff role.

The White Sox are looking a lot better going into 2010. They have one of the best pitching rotations Ive seen in years.

They are shaping up very nicely. :tu

VirtualSmitty 12-16-2009 09:44 AM

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Angels locked up Matsui. Guess that means Vlad is done with the Angels. Matsui was a good player, i'll miss him.

MedicCook 12-16-2009 06:48 PM

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The Mets should sign Vlad. He would fit in well with the DL Mets. :r

kelmac07 12-16-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 683552)
The Mets should sign Vlad. He would fit in well with the DL Mets. :r

Don't start Ryan!!! And don't say that out loud...Mets are looking for a corner outfielder with power (just don't need another AGING veteran past his prime). :D

MedicCook 12-16-2009 08:30 PM

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He would be a lot cheaper then Bay.

kelmac07 12-16-2009 09:19 PM

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And probably a lot less productive.

MedicCook 12-16-2009 10:22 PM

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One thing Bay will have to learn at CitiField is not to go for the HR but try for the double in the gap. I don't think you will see someone from the Mets lead the league in HRs.

RichardW 12-16-2009 10:31 PM

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The Mariners are getting Cliff Lee :confused:

Oh, you must mean the other Cliff Lee!! :r :r


Felix and then Cliff ... I can hardly wait :ss

MedicCook 12-16-2009 10:36 PM

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And Chone at 3B.

Starscream 12-17-2009 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardW (Post 683751)
The Mariners are getting Cliff Lee :confused:

Oh, you must mean the other Cliff Lee!! :r :r


Felix and then Cliff ... I can hardly wait :ss

But still stuck with the "old" Griffey.

VirtualSmitty 12-18-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 683862)
But still stuck with the "old" Griffey.

I don't think it will matter so much. The Mariners already had the lowest era among starters in the AL, Lee just made them even better. Given how much the Angels lost, I actually think the Mariners have a real good shot of winning their division. They just need to get one more bat, which I think they will do before spring training starts.

Starscream 12-18-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 685375)
I don't think it will matter so much. The Mariners already had the lowest era among starters in the AL, Lee just made them even better. Given how much the Angels lost, I actually think the Mariners have a real good shot of winning their division. They just need to get one more bat, which I think they will do before spring training starts.

Now it's Griffey and Bradley. :r

VirtualSmitty 12-18-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 685677)
Now it's Griffey and Bradley. :r

Now I might have to reconsider. Milton Bradley is team cancer :hn

MedicCook 12-20-2009 12:03 PM

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The Rangers dela to get Lowell from the Red Sox is now off due to a thumb injury Lowell has. He is scheduled to have surgery next week.

Starscream 12-20-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 688008)
The Rangers dela to get Lowell from the Red Sox is now off due to a thumb injury Lowell has. He is scheduled to have surgery next week.

That'll kill a deal real quick.;)

MedicCook 12-20-2009 02:17 PM

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So who is going to sign Johnny Damon? He would not budge from $13M a year for the Yankees.

kelmac07 12-20-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 688209)
So who is going to sign Johnny Damon? He would not budge from $13M a year for the Yankees.

Please not my Mets. :D

MedicCook 12-20-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 688415)
Please not my Mets. :D

I think you are safe. I see him staying in the AL.

MedicCook 12-29-2009 03:02 PM

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Jason Bay is a New York Met. 4 years $66M.

Bruins Fan 12-29-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 698835)
Jason Bay is a New York Met. 4 years $66M.

He would not take that from the Sox, they offered him that back in spring training.
Last week his agent came begging the Sox to sign him, looks like they told him to take a hike? We spent all our free agent money on Lackey.

The Poet 12-29-2009 03:47 PM

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The BoSox had decent pitching last season, but could not hit enough. Now they are trying to improve their pitching, yet have even less at the plate. Really, how many 2-1 games can you win anyway? Am I wrong here?

kelmac07 12-29-2009 04:44 PM

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We need a power hitting left fielder...not complaining!!! Although, we drafted him and let him go to the Pirates for nothing.

Bruins Fan 12-29-2009 05:00 PM

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He may not pass the physical, Bay has knee and shoulder issues ?

kelmac07 12-29-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan (Post 699009)
He may not pass the physical, Bay has knee and shoulder issues ?

Damn...on the DL already and he hasn't even finallized the deal. :r :r

Bruins Fan 12-29-2009 05:15 PM

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That is the rumor that is being reported in the Boston media.
The Mets were the only offer he had, that ball park is not a home run hitters park.
Now that the market is set it will be interesting were Holliday goes.

MedicCook 12-29-2009 05:40 PM

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Citifield is a real bad place for him. This is where the greed shows and hurts a player long term. He could have stayed in Boston in a ballpark that is perfect for him. Nice and small with a shallow LF which would prolong his career in the field. Instead he tries to go for more money and winds up in a bad place (no offense Mac).

Bruins Fan 12-29-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 699106)
Citifield is a real bad place for him. This is where the greed shows and hurts a player long term. He could have stayed in Boston in a ballpark that is perfect for him. Nice and small with a shallow LF which would prolong his career in the field. Instead he tries to go for more money and winds up in a bad place (no offense Mac).

You hit the nail on the head Ryan, that is the same deal Boston offered him.
He will be sucking wind if don't pass the physical.
Yes he will get a contract with a lot of escape clauses for the Mets ?

MedicCook 12-29-2009 05:59 PM

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I really think there is going to be a huge drop in power numbers for him in 2010 with the Mets. Also he needs at least 1 trip to the DL. He is a Met. :r

kelmac07 12-30-2009 04:49 AM

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Mark my words...they bring the fences in at Citifield in the next year.

shilala 12-30-2009 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 699547)
Mark my words...they bring the fences in at Citifield in the next year.

Bay is 10,000,000 reasons why it'd make really good sense for 2010. :)
He's a good kid. I'm surprised Boston didn't try to keep him. They obviously know his health a little better than the Mets. They didn't hang on to Johnny Damon, either. Same scenario.
Boston got the best for their money with both ballplayers and cut them loose when the time was right.

MedicCook 12-30-2009 07:41 AM

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The Red Sox wanted Bay back but they would not play the game. Same thing with Damon and the Yankees. Yankees made their offer Damon said no Yankees moved on.


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