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Blueface 12-29-2008 09:21 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 139499)
I just wanted to make sure he was informed about what grey market is, people hear grey market and think of black market...they are no where near the same thing.

Absolutely a very good point.

kgoings 12-29-2008 09:24 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Since we got some shutterbugs on here...I won my fantasy football league and I am in the hunt for some new glass.

Looking for an 70-200 2.8 non-IS lens. Keep an eye out...I had the IS version...never used the IS and it was a heavy beast...I shot a 3 day college gymnastics meet and I could barely hold up the camera by the beginning of the 3rd day. But it might have had to do with the fact I was shooting with a Mark III :dr now THATS a camera!

UPHOTO 12-29-2008 09:24 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
www.keh.com for used equipment
www.fredmiranda.com for used equipment
www.adorama.com for new
www.bhphotovideo.com for new

And very few others I would suggest, there are some BAD places and if it seems to good to be true then it is every time.

kgoings 12-29-2008 09:26 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by UPHOTO (Post 139508)
www.keh.com for used equipment
www.fredmiranda.com for used equipment
www.adorama.com for new
www.bhphotovideo.com for new

And very few others I would suggest, there are some BAD places and if it seems to good to be true then it is every time.

:tpd: I have used all of the above but KEH...gonna check KEH now for my 70-200

UPHOTO 12-29-2008 09:27 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 139507)
Since we got some shutterbugs on here...I won my fantasy football league and I am in the hunt for some new glass.

Looking for an 70-200 2.8 non-IS lens. Keep an eye out...I had the IS version...never used the IS and it was a heavy beast...I shot a 3 day college gymnastics meet and I could barely hold up the camera by the beginning of the 3rd day. But it might have had to do with the fact I was shooting with a Mark III :dr now THATS a camera!

I would go with the Sigma 70-200 2.8 then. It's just as good and cheaper and lighter.

Blueface 12-29-2008 09:27 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
These guys are top notch for used equipment and repairs and custom needs.
They offer all new stuff also but B&H is a better way to go for new.
There is nothing they can't modify.
They cater to professionals primarily.

http://www.armatosvideo.com/

UPHOTO 12-29-2008 09:30 AM

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keh is THE best in used equipment anywhere. Their ratings are so out of control!!! If it say's like new then it's NEW, if it say's bargain then it maybe has a few scratches and scuff marks on the outside of it.

They are very very picky about the quality of what they sell.

kgoings 12-29-2008 09:30 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by UPHOTO (Post 139511)
I would go with the Sigma 70-200 2.8 then. It's just as good and cheaper and lighter.

Are there any reviews on how fast if focuses compared to the Canon?

Mr.Maduro 12-29-2008 09:33 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Nikkor Lenses are not Nikon...correct? How do they compare?

Blueface 12-29-2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 139533)
Nikkor Lenses are not Nikon...correct? How do they compare?

Nikkor is Nikon's name for lenses.

Sort of like Mopar for Chrysler.
Goodwrench for GM.
On and on.

Mr.Maduro 12-29-2008 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 139539)
Nikkor is Nikon's name for lenses.

Sort of like Mopar for Chrysler.

One website says Nikkor, another says Nikon. Thanks.

UPHOTO 12-29-2008 09:39 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 139522)
Are there any reviews on how fast if focuses compared to the Canon?

hmmm....let me see if I can find some I know there are. I've owned all three of them and it's fast, it is a HSM motor like the USM of Canon. So it's the silent fast motor style.

Great lens for the money.

Blueface 12-29-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UPHOTO (Post 139511)
I would go with the Sigma 70-200 2.8 then. It's just as good and cheaper and lighter.

I was actually recently looking at that lens.
Just need to wait due to Christmas expenses/debt. Not easy to come up with $700 for a lens now.
I use the Nikkor 28-105 which is an awesome lens and no longer easy to find in any packages.
Works well pretty much for all my needs but would like some additional zoom options if possible and you can't beat it for the price to have a 2.8 on such a zoom distance.

Now if I dared to unload all my Hasselblad Carl Zeiss lenses (6 of them), I could buy tons of these.

Jay Hemingway 12-29-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 138978)
how do you feel about jackass?:r

eeeerrrrr... http://smilies.newcastlebeats.com/smilies/happyfy.gif

Genetic Defect 12-29-2008 02:31 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Jay Hemingway (Post 139640)

Is the marriage a cover?

kgoings 12-31-2008 07:09 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Just saw this coupon, I know they are overpriced sometimes but its worth a look...ends the 31st. 10% off when you pay by heygal

http://www.cheapstingybargains.com/9...t-ritz-camera/

darb85 12-31-2008 12:25 PM

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Im a huge fan of the Sony line of SLRs. Its Konica Minoltas technology mixed with sony. The Instant on is amazing and the stability and speed and auto Focus is top of the line. They Bought Minoltas digital line. Im planing on buying one soon as well probably the 450.

12stones 12-31-2008 01:22 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 139322)
Thanks for all of the great info...please keep it coming. I'm learning a great deal.

Also, if anyone else is following this thread to buy a new camera, buy from a reputable vendor!! If it's too good to be true, it usually isn't!! I'm finding out there are many shady online camera sales websites that are all affililiated with each other and are scam artists. BEWARE!

This is a good note to bring back up because even some of the scammers advertise in photo mags. I always check www.resellerratings.com to look for an online supplier if a deal seems too good to be true. And beware, many places are upsell artists.

kgoings 12-31-2008 01:42 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by darb85 (Post 143671)
Im a huge fan of the Sony line of SLRs. Its Konica Minoltas technology mixed with sony. The Instant on is amazing and the stability and speed and auto Focus is top of the line. They Bought Minoltas digital line. Im planing on buying one soon as well probably the 450.

I looked at Sony's at one time, the main issue that steered me away was the amount of Canon and Nikon Lens availabe. That and for the same price range, I could get a Canon that is faster..i.e. autofocus was faster and frames per second on continuous drive. I.E. Sony 2 FPS Canon 6.5 FPS in the same price range.

12stones 12-31-2008 01:50 PM

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So, do we have a final verdict yet?

darb85 12-31-2008 02:04 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 143791)
I looked at Sony's at one time, the main issue that steered me away was the amount of Canon and Nikon Lens availabe. That and for the same price range, I could get a Canon that is faster..i.e. autofocus was faster and frames per second on continuous drive. I.E. Sony 2 FPS Canon 6.5 FPS in the same price range.

any minolta lens will work with a Sony. THere are a bunch of lenses available, I have a bunch of lenses, so maybe that makes me partial...:rolleyes:

Mr.Maduro 12-31-2008 02:18 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by 12stones (Post 143800)
So, do we have a final verdict yet?

I'm locked in on Nikon, but have been pulling my hair all day trying to decide between the D40, D60, or D80... :confused:

BigAl_SC 12-31-2008 02:57 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 143829)
I'm locked in on Nikon, but have been pulling my hair all day trying to decide between the D40, D60, or D80... :confused:

Well I'm a D80 owner. I've been following the thread to see what you choice you came to but felt I needed to put my :2 in on the previous statement. Throw out the D60 choice. Its sloooooooow and doesn't do much more than the 40 for a heck of a lot more $. If you look at just the D40 or D80, price vs features is the choice. The 40 won't use all the old lens but if your just starting out, who cares.

I have the 18-200vr lens that almost never comes off the camera. Just a do everything lens.

Maybe this will help to see how I made my choice. Good luck.

Al

Ratters 12-31-2008 03:07 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Go a tad bit more and get the Nikon D90.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D90-Digi...0761114&sr=8-1

Mr Edmundo 12-31-2008 03:22 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Those are all fine cameras, but do yourself a favour. Check out the Pentax line. The K200D is one of the highest rated. It's completely weather and dust proof. The image stabilization is in the body, so you don't have to keep purchasing the technology over again with each lens you purchase, like in the Nikon or the Canon. The added bonus is that the lenses are much, much cheaper to produce and they are smaller and lighter. You don't get any of that with C or N.
Generally, you will get more value and a great camera for much less than the others because they don't spend multi millions of dollars on advertising. The downside is nobody knows about the product.:2

BigAl_SC 12-31-2008 03:40 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Ratters (Post 143894)
Go a tad bit more and get the Nikon D90.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D90-Digi...0761114&sr=8-1

Have to admit, the D90 looks sweeeeeeet!!!!!

For $250 more, it would seem to be a no brainer if you are going the high $ route. Wasn't available yet for me.

Still highly recommend the 18-200 lens as a jack of all trades.......

Mr.Maduro 01-05-2009 07:00 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Well I placed my order this morning for the Nikon D40 with the 18-55 and 55-200 lens kit. :tu

Blueface 01-05-2009 07:15 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 150199)
Well I placed my order this morning for the Nikon D40 with the 18-55 and 55-200 lens kit. :tu

Congrats!
You couldn't go wrong with any of the suggestions made.
Enjoy!!!

kgoings 01-05-2009 07:22 AM

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Congrats!

UPHOTO 01-05-2009 11:29 AM

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Yep congrats!!!!

BigAl_SC 01-05-2009 01:44 PM

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Congrats, you'll enjoy it.

UPHOTO 01-05-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Now buy a Sigma 35mm 1.4 for low light use and your set!!!!

GREAT lens for cropped sensor cameras, ends up being close to a 50mm lens which is what they call "normal" focal view. 1.4 is the fastest of lenses you can get for Nikon, works great in low light and no flash.

gvarsity 01-05-2009 05:16 PM

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Congrats you will love it. As for the whole scammer thing it is very much the truth. On all price search engines the cheapest deal or three is almost guaranteed to be a scam either an identity theft or bait and switch scam. www.adorama.com and www.bhphotovideo.com are competitive pricewise and have outstanding customer service and returns. I bought my Pentax at http://www.beachcamera.com/ and had a very good experience and good price. All three have established B&M stores, long histories and a good reputation.

newcigarz 01-05-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 150199)
Well I placed my order this morning for the Nikon D40 with the 18-55 and 55-200 lens kit. :tu

congrats.

Beagleone 01-05-2009 05:37 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Congrats. I picked the D90 up for my birthday gift, then my buddy (who owned the D70 and didn't want to be outdone) picked up the D700. My wife won't let me upgrade anytime soon...

Tazziedevil 01-05-2009 06:40 PM

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Eesh. I'm a pro photographer and a dyed in the wool Canon guy. I have a 5d mkii and a 40d as a backup body. I've never liked nikons much,and think you get more lens for the money with canon lenses, especially the l series. but some buddies swear by their nikons. To each their own, I suppose.
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Asher 01-05-2009 06:52 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
I've had a Canon XSi for a couple of months now, and it's great. The live-view mode is particularly handy for fine-focussing.

UPHOTO 01-05-2009 07:31 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Tazziedevil (Post 151514)
Eesh. I'm a pro photographer and a dyed in the wool Canon guy. I have a 5d mkii and a 40d as a backup body. I've never liked nikons much,and think you get more lens for the money with canon lenses, especially the l series. but some buddies swear by their nikons. To each their own, I suppose.
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That is my next purchase!!!! MKII

My 5D's have been a staple of my business.

kgoings 01-05-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by UPHOTO (Post 151648)
That is my next purchase!!!! MKII

My 5D's have been a staple of my business.

I wish I had that kind of cash....I usually rent an MKIII for my big events.

UPHOTO 01-05-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 151671)
I wish I had that kind of cash....I usually rent an MKIII for my big events.

You can buy a used 5D now for $1k!!!! Not bad since I almost paid 4 times that for mine but they have paid for themselves many many times.

Such an amazing camera, changed everything if you ask me.

hotreds 01-05-2009 08:38 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Maduro (Post 150199)
Well I placed my order this morning for the Nikon D40 with the 18-55 and 55-200 lens kit. :tu

Should work nicely for ya!

Tazziedevil 01-05-2009 08:55 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
I would never buy a used body...there is just no way to know where they've been and what they've been through. I just upgraded to the 5d mk ii and it is a fantastic piece of gear. Full frame, too. I like to keep the 40 around for the cropped sensor...the 70-200 L lens I have, with a 2x tele extender on the 40 gives me an effective focal length of nearly 600mm, which is quite nice for sporting events, which I do quite often.
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rack04 03-02-2009 09:25 AM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
Sorry for piggy backing this thread but I have a question. Is it worth the money to invest in VR (Vibration Reduction) lenses over regular lenses? BTW, I'm looking at a Nikon D40 6.1 Digital SLR with 18-55mm & 55-200mm lenses. Also, what accessories are recommended, i.e. rechargeable battery, bag/case, remote control, tripod, flash, etc.?

coffeemonkey 03-02-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Looking for a SLR camera - any suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by rack04 (Post 265911)
Sorry for piggy backing this thread but I have a question. Is it worth the money to invest in VR (Vibration Reduction) lenses over regular lenses? BTW, I'm looking at a Nikon D40 6.1 Digital SLR with 18-55mm & 55-200mm lenses. Also, what accessories are recommended, i.e. rechargeable battery, bag/case, remote control, tripod, flash, etc.?

It depends on what you are shooting and when. The IS is a nice way to gain back some shutter speed that you can spend on aperture and ISO. If you do a lot of tripod work the need for IS is diminished and some lens work better with IS off when on a tripod (since the IS will "look" for vibration that isn't there, thus introducing vibration, not all lens do this, some are smart enough to know they aren't moving).

Concerning accessories I'd say in order of importance the following:

Good camera bag, tripod, extra battery for camera, flash, remote.

This would be my preference but I shoot outdoors a lot so the flash isn't as critical, at least at first. If you have the money, get all of what you mentioned. Other than a camera bag, a tripod is essential in my book. There are times, many times, when you just can't get a sharp photo without a tripod. My camera is on my "sticks" more than it is off. That is where the remote comes in handy too, you can reduce vibration by using a remote shutter release then if you push on the shutter button and induce vibration just as the shutter releases.

Anywho, that is my :2, others may think differently.

larryinlc 03-02-2009 08:29 PM

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I know Pentax isn't "THE" camera among the masses, but they offer in camera IS which allows any and all lenses you can strap on to become anti shake. I have one and love it.

Larry


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