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AlohaStyle 11-14-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robulous78 (Post 1750085)
So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?

To add to the other answers... the Cuban brand and NC brand have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Totally separate companies/blends/marketing etc. Nothing. The NC name is a blatant copy of the cuban name/image here in the US.

And to think a CC Cohiba Robusto is too expensive... they are cheaper than a lot of high-end Nicaraguan and Dominicans. Do you buy the Tatuaje Monster cigars? They are more expensive than I pay for Cohiba Robustos.

JJKJR 11-15-2012 06:33 AM

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I got these same cigars as a gift from my wife who was in Haiti. She bought them from a roadside vender being told and believing they were CC's. Just as everyone else stated they were very poorly constructed and 2 of the ten pack had beetle holes in them. I did the freezer kill on the remaining 8. I didn't especially like the cigars. I can't say they were the worse I ever smoked but they were far from the best. I wouldn't consider getting these again. I remember reading somewhere on this site that the true NC's band has the "O" in Cohiba colored red.

Sonic04GT 11-15-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by iaMkcK (Post 1749761)
I'm sure he meant it offhandedly, and not honestly meaning 1/100 are real.. But I can't speak for the man.. It's up to him to say what he actually meant.

That's what I got out of it. I've noticed many folks around here take things very literally and seriously.

Sonic04GT 11-15-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1749981)
Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webf...s/show/id/2860

"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

:O:c

pnoon 11-15-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic04GT (Post 1750283)
"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

:O:c

It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously. ;)

Robulous78 11-15-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1750286)
It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously. ;)

:po

bigunit66 11-17-2012 05:31 PM

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I trust more online vendors than B&M's in any third world country.

havanabound 11-17-2012 06:24 PM

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Damn it!

My buddy who goes to cuba, keeps bringing back discounted boxes of cohibas that he gets from someone he "trusts". These cigars in the most legitimate looking box, sealed with government seal and all (box of 25) all have the 4 dots above the cohiba name.

My other friends that went to an actual government store and bought them full price and legitimately, those all had 3 dots. And I've smoked them all. Now I'm left with about 20 of the fake ones. I must say though, they're still pretty damn fine smokes, even though they're probably knock offs.

The one I just received from switzerland has 3 dots.

aj_chicago 07-18-2013 12:26 PM

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All I can say is I sure do miss the "fake" yellow band Cohibas. I like mild and I think they were a great bang for the buck and thoroughly enjoyed them. Does anyone know what brand/name they were replaced with after General Cigars won the law suit with the "non-Cuban" (3rd) Cohiba company?

Sweet_Leaf_PDX 07-18-2013 01:04 PM

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I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?

pnoon 07-18-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet_Leaf_PDX (Post 1862735)
I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?

There is no "counterpart" or association other than the two share the same name. In no way should they ever be associated. There is no such thing as a "non-Cuban version" of a Cuban marca - or vice versa. It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Tatuaje or Gurkha and compared the two.

pektel 07-18-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1862746)
It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Gurkha.

Sounds like a prank someone could play on Tom at a herf.

Sweet_Leaf_PDX 07-18-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 1862746)
There is no "counterpart" or association other than the two share the same name. In no way should they ever be associated. There is no such thing as a "non-Cuban version" of a Cuban marca - or vice versa. It would be no different than if you slapped a Partagas band on a Tatuaje or Gurkha and compared the two.

I didn't know that there was no association at all. This all makes so much more sense now, I feel enlightened :tu

icehog3 07-18-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pektel (Post 1862755)
Sounds like a prank someone could play on Tom at a herf.

Hopefully there will be a dentist at the herf for the jokester, Peter. ;)

AdamJoshua 07-18-2013 01:45 PM

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:lv

Da Klugs 07-18-2013 01:53 PM

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Hey mine have 4 rows of dots are they fake?

AdamJoshua 07-18-2013 02:10 PM

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Def real see how the last "c" in Klugica doesn't break the line of the "a" .. that right there is a good one!

Simple1 07-18-2013 03:10 PM

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:po

montrealtony 09-18-2015 07:33 PM

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hi i have 2 boxes of robustos and just opened them today they have 9 rows of dots.. and a gold hologram band on top of the dots .. they are not my style i have 50 of them for sale if anyone is interested.. i live in edmonton alberta and can ship anywhere permitted

badbriar 09-18-2015 08:08 PM

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Got y'all beat...
Got me a fake CC or maybe NC Cohiba straight from someone who knew someone who sneaked a box of real fake Cohibas in from one of the South or Central American resorts. Pretty bad printed wrapper with 7 rows of dots, gold foil head and name, but no emboss in the word Cohiba and the wrapper is affixed with too much glue and crooked to boot. Horrible construction, lots of mottling, sun spots, veins and bumps. Not a spot of oil and toothy as a dirt road. Even has faded black type! Poor thing is a fugly little bent stick with single cap. Still says Cohiba, though! Think I'm gonna keep it for April 1! :lr

icehog3 09-18-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by montrealtony (Post 2054153)
hi i have 2 boxes of robustos and just opened them today they have 9 rows of dots.. and a gold hologram band on top of the dots .. they are not my style i have 50 of them for sale if anyone is interested.. i live in edmonton alberta and can ship anywhere permitted

Selling Cuban cigars is not permitted on this forum. Please acquaint yourself with our rules if you want to become part of the community.

dmiller662 02-01-2016 09:41 PM

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for educational purposes only

good to go....

T.G 02-01-2016 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073262)

What exactly do you mean by "Good to go" ?

Or maybe I should ask, "good to go" where? And is the trash can an option?

That Cohiba band is pretty sketchy. The Romeo might be ok though.

pnoon 02-01-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073262)
for educational purposes only

good to go....

I'm confused. Please explain.

Adriftpanda 02-01-2016 11:38 PM

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My same exact thoughts, Adam.

Cohiba band looks way off. RyJ band looks solid though.

mahtofire14 02-02-2016 12:47 AM

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It's alive....How did this thread get dug up?

pnoon 02-02-2016 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073262)
for educational purposes only

good to go....

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 2073266)
I'm confused. Please explain.

:tt

dmiller662 02-02-2016 10:33 AM

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LOL.. if you say so....

pnoon 02-02-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073348)
LOL.. if you say so....

:sw

I honestly don't understand what you meant by your post.

Brlesq 02-02-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073348)
LOL.. if you say so....

LOL right back at you, our new friend. That Cohiba band is about as authentic as Rachel Dolezal.

Weelok 02-02-2016 02:14 PM

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As always, fakes are clever. Hard to keep up but refresh this since topic is resurrected.

Check the magazine link and here of course and hope for best :)

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/count.../view/id/15403

dmiller662 02-02-2016 07:58 PM

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no time to entertain FRT's

icehog3 02-02-2016 08:19 PM

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Female Reproductive Tract?

Family Reunion Travel?

Finland Racing Team?

bobarian 02-02-2016 08:22 PM

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Free Range Turkey:sh

AdamJoshua 02-02-2016 08:37 PM

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Facebook Response Time?
For Real Though +1

as the kids say .. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

joatmon 02-02-2016 09:28 PM

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Flying Radioactive Turtles?

T.G 02-02-2016 10:04 PM

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Fried Rolled Tacos?

bobarian 02-02-2016 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G (Post 2073484)
Fried Rolled Tacos?

Wrong thread Adam. This goes in the Indoor Herf food thread.:banger:D

dmiller662 02-02-2016 11:05 PM

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Fo dw

icehog3 02-02-2016 11:08 PM

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Love the avatar, Adam, Dick Hacker choking the chicken again....

icehog3 02-02-2016 11:14 PM

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OK, another guess...... Farting Releases Turds?

T.G 02-02-2016 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073488)
Fo dw

Friends of Dennis Weaver?

Adriftpanda 02-02-2016 11:45 PM

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Family of David Wales?

Brlesq 02-03-2016 06:05 AM

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Before Doctor Who?

T.G 02-03-2016 06:27 AM

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From Our Deepest Wells?

joatmon 02-03-2016 06:42 AM

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Freezing Off Dog Warts?

CigarNut 02-03-2016 08:02 AM

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Maybe a ToE should move this thread to the Banter section...

dmiller662 02-03-2016 08:05 AM

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maybe check the family tree

markem 02-03-2016 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073464)
no time to entertain FRT's

I suggest that since you have no time that you sit back and figure things out. I know that you already know what the site is all about and how best to fix it with your witty remarks, but it may be best for you to sit on your hands (try not to fart).

pnoon 02-03-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073464)
no time to entertain FRT's

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073488)
Fo dw

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmiller662 (Post 2073528)
maybe check the family tree

Since you are new here, you might consider dispensing with the cryptic remarks and try and establish some credibility here. What you're doing now is boderline trolling.


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