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kydsid 02-29-2012 09:24 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Okay first off the only real answer for anyone in high heat environments to keep the cigars cool themselves is a wineador etc that has its own cooling device. You can search my threads and find a write up I did while living in a climate that even at night did not go below 80 degrees.


Second, sorry to burst people bubbles, but freezing is not a 100% pest exclusion method. You are kidding yourself about any pest to ever think that any pest control method is 100% effective. However thourough and below 0 freezing is highly effective on all insects and given the prescence of tobacco beetles is already low you are further lowering the chances to as low as possible to make an outbreak inprobable but it will always be possible.



EDIT: Here is the thread I was speaking of: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19819

ApexAZ 02-29-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G (Post 1575669)
This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

I thought that too and will maybe store it in a gallon ziplock and/or possibly wrapped in a dish towel.

kydsid 02-29-2012 10:25 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1575750)
I thought that too and will maybe store it in a gallon ziplock and/or possibly wrapped in a dish towel.

This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

kaisersozei 02-29-2012 10:28 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
You can always bury them in your backyard

www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=34453

CigarNut 02-29-2012 10:44 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1575760)
This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

:tpd:

Unless you are freezing your cigars keep them away from ice -- you are only making problems for yourself otherwise.

BC-Axeman 02-29-2012 11:20 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1575762)
You can always bury them in your backyard

www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=34453

Ah yes, the "Cigar Sewar." I had forgotten this brilliant storage method.

smitty81 02-29-2012 12:03 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisersozei (Post 1575762)
You can always bury them in your backyard

www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=34453

That is actually pretty cool.

icehog3 02-29-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1575858)
That is actually pretty cool.

Opinions vary.

ApexAZ 02-29-2012 03:31 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 1575771)
:tpd:

Unless you are freezing your cigars keep them away from ice -- you are only making problems for yourself otherwise.

Well, crap, okay. Hopefully 78 will be fine until I can get a vino, or 3 :)

CigarNut 02-29-2012 03:46 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1576171)
Well, crap, okay. Hopefully 78 will be fine until I can get a vino, or 3 :)

Freeze your cigars when you get them and 78 degress won't matter.

Malazan 02-29-2012 06:06 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Here in Colorado, we have no Humidity. I have a hard time keeping 65-70% sometimes

ArgusP2 02-29-2012 07:21 PM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1575713)
Okay first off the only real answer for anyone in high heat environments to keep the cigars cool themselves is a wineador etc that has its own cooling device. You can search my threads and find a write up I did while living in a climate that even at night did not go below 80 degrees.


Second, sorry to burst people bubbles, but freezing is not a 100% pest exclusion method. You are kidding yourself about any pest to ever think that any pest control method is 100% effective. However thourough and below 0 freezing is highly effective on all insects and given the prescence of tobacco beetles is already low you are further lowering the chances to as low as possible to make an outbreak inprobable but it will always be possible.



EDIT: Here is the thread I was speaking of: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19819

Quote:

Originally Posted by kydsid (Post 1575760)
This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

:tu Jason knows!

kydsid 03-01-2012 08:50 AM

Re: Question for people in constant high heat weather.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1576171)
Well, crap, okay. Hopefully 78 will be fine until I can get a vino, or 3 :)

The edgestars retail for around $200, usually with free shipping. You can find scratch and dents as low as $100. With about another $40 in beads and you have one mighty effective humidor in a hot climate that for the cost and it stores a lot, say 18+ boxes of cigars.

Think about it this way. At a $140 you are forgoing buying only one box of the cheapest cigars you like and protecting everything you have now, plus everything in the future.


Drawers, shelves etc can come latter. ;)


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