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smitty81 02-22-2012 10:55 AM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1568204)
I did.

Then I went 65% and liked it even better.

Now I store at 61-62% and my cigars smoke wonderfully. And age wonderfully as well. :)

But then they arnt chewy then. :dr

smitty81 02-22-2012 11:53 AM

Re: RH problems?
 
I will keep this humidor and give it longer to season.

With two bowls of water in there, it has been holding at 70% moisture for two days.

How long do I leave it sit at 70% before I procede to put the cigars in?

Does 70% sound about right for the ammount of RH being held in the humidor or does/should it get higher than that while seasoning? (lets just assume the hyg is correct for this question)

I would think a humidor that seals properly should be able to hold about 80% RH but maby i'm wrong?

Subvet642 02-22-2012 12:05 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
When I seasoned mine, RH got up to about 85%, but that was with a calibrated hygrometer and beads in it. It quickly dropped to about 70% - 72% when I removed the cup of distilled water, and beads and sticks brought it down further to 65%. That's about a 20 point drop between seasoning and storage. It's been stable at ~65% ever since.

ApexAZ 02-22-2012 04:03 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1568178)
If you want, and it really helps, you can add a couple little sponges when you season next time. Wet them with distilled water and sit them on a plate or dish. It increases the surface area dramatically and will deliver a ton more moisture to the air than bowls with water do.

I did this and it worked great. My RH only drops when the beads need to be recharged.

dwoodward 02-22-2012 04:27 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1568126)
I guess I just dont think a seasoned humidor should drop 5-10% after I take the bowls of water out unless it leaks. Thats what I was asking here.

Is it normal to drop that much.

I guess if two weeks isnt long enough, someone should change the sticky on seasoning humis.

The sticky is fine, you just didn't follow it's directions. Seasoning takes patience. You are just way to eager to use your humidor. I hope you get your moneys worth with the new humidor, but you will have the exact same problems if you throw your cigars in after only 4 days of seasoning.

From another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1557098)
When is my humidor ready to hold cigars?

Its been seasoning for about 4 days or so and the RH is at 65 according to the hygrometer.

Can I throw my beads in and cigars and call it good?

Yes a BOTL gave some poor advice telling you you should do this. But I am pretty sure you had heard from many of us 2 weeks minimum before your humidor even arrived..

smitty81 02-22-2012 05:10 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1568508)
The sticky is fine, you just didn't follow it's directions. Seasoning takes patience. You are just way to eager to use your humidor. I hope you get your moneys worth with the new humidor, but you will have the exact same problems if you throw your cigars in after only 4 days of seasoning.

From another thread:



Yes a BOTL gave some poor advice telling you you should do this. But I am pretty sure you had heard from many of us 2 weeks minimum before your humidor even arrived..

not to argue but the sticks were in there for 2 days before I noticed I had problems, then they came out.

dwoodward 02-22-2012 06:11 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81 (Post 1568545)
not to argue but the sticks were in there for 2 days before I noticed I had problems, then they came out.

I don't know what this has to do with what I said? My statement still stands, 4 days is not long enough. Not trying to bust your balls bro, just saying you sent your humidor back blaming it for your RH problems when you didn't season it properly to begin with.

fencefixer 02-22-2012 06:47 PM

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Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

smitty81 02-22-2012 06:53 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 1568615)
I don't know what this has to do with what I said? My statement still stands, 4 days is not long enough. Not trying to bust your balls bro, just saying you sent your humidor back blaming it for your RH problems when you didn't season it properly to begin with.

I don't think some of you are understanding what I did.

I have been seasoning it for 2 weeks. After 2 days, the humi was at 65% so I put the sticks in. Noticed a problem and took sticks out two days later. Put sticks in baggie. continued seasoning. Put sticks back in 2 days ago. RH dropped and, sticks and beads dried up after a 2 days or so. Took sticks back out.

Just thought id try to clear that up. It has been seasoning for over 2 weeks, I never took the water out ever during these 2 weeks.

dwoodward 02-22-2012 07:01 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1568656)
Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fencefixer (Post 1568656)
Hypothetical question then.. if his humidor isn't "seasoned right" and it was packed full, what if you add extra humidifiers etc., will it season properly eventually?

Maybe, but the dry cedar will still suck up some of the RH from your cigars.

EricF 02-22-2012 07:06 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
After reading thru all of the posts, Josh, you stated that you put beads in. My question is do you have enough beads for the humi and were they properly hydrated before you put them in?

I am asking do to the fact that if you put dry beads in then they will absorb the humidity in the humi which will cause the RH to drop.

smitty81 02-22-2012 07:12 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricF (Post 1568672)
After reading thru all of the posts, Josh, you stated that you put beads in. My question is do you have enough beads for the humi and were they properly hydrated before you put them in?

I am asking do to the fact that if you put dry beads in then they will absorb the humidity in the humi which will cause the RH to drop.

They were heartfelt beads, I used the calculations they said to use to figure out the proper size to order.

I got the tube of beads, squirted it with distilled water till they were clear.

MoTheMan 02-22-2012 07:19 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
-- It's a bad humidor . . .

OR

-- It needs more seasoning time. What I've done in the past (before I converted a closed iunto a humi, that is, is wipe it down with a wet cloth, but not so wet as to start raising the grain of the wood lining. But light wet wipes every few days will allow the humidor wood to acclimate quickly.

-- BTW, what brand of humidor is it?!

smitty81 02-22-2012 07:32 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoTheMan (Post 1568688)
-- It's a bad humidor . . .

OR

-- It needs more seasoning time. What I've done in the past (before I converted a closed iunto a humi, that is, is wipe it down with a wet cloth, but not so wet as to start raising the grain of the wood lining. But light wet wipes every few days will allow the humidor wood to acclimate quickly.

-- BTW, what brand of humidor is it?!

I thought about doing the wipes..........but I didn't do it.

It's an art deco humidor.

backwoods357 02-22-2012 07:43 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1568178)
It's a lot tougher to maintain any kind of RH in any empty humi.

I'm glad you guys taught me that. My coolidor was giving me fits until I filled it to the top. I made a crappy skirt for the inner lip of the lid using plastic wrap and I rarely have to add humidification now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1568178)
3/4's full is probably the best situation you can get, that way it allows for a little order here and there, and leaves some air space for circulation.

I need to get some organization going, I've been buying samplers to get a little experience and half of the cooler is a heap of singles and five finger bags. It's hell trying to find something.

jluck 02-22-2012 08:43 PM

Re: RH problems?
 
Try Tupperware. put cigars,beads and hygrometer in a large container and leave alone for a week minimum. Set the hygo so you can red it without opening the container. If you can stabilize the environment that way you have found a bad seal or humidor.:2

You might have a leaky humi or a bad seal.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8939/badseal.jpg
:D


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