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Bill86 01-05-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 1521420)
I love Ohio. We have the Castle Doctrine. The scumbags family can't sue you if you shoot them. :noon:banger

TN too!

IMHO It makes sense. They broke into your house, they should pay the consequences. They understand the risk.

As far as what guns are best for home defense, hell I couldn't tell you. That's why I have a shotgun, 1911 and AR-15. I'll decide should the situation arise.

icehog3 01-05-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1521295)
While I completely support the right to defend one's home from intrusion by any means necessary, it seems to me there is more to this specific story than meets the eye.

Call me skeptical....or suspicious...but I am not taking this girl's story at face value.

Again, I want to reiterate that I completely support the right to defend one's home from intrusion by any means necessary...I am no liberal when it comes to this topic.

I just don't believe the girl's story at face value. As I said, I've been a cop for 25 years, and am pretty good at reading people in these situations, and something just ain't right with this picture. :2

icehog3 01-05-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop (Post 1521610)
From a Squad car at Dunkin Donuts????:sh

Hysterical. :rolleyes:

Coop 01-05-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1521671)

I just don't believe the girl's story at face value. As I said, I've been a cop for 25 years, and am pretty good at reading people in these situations, and something just ain't right with this picture. :2

After watching it again, I agree that something will come out more about this story. Seems too staged with the 20 minute phone call... Also, who in their right mind would attempt a B&E with a German shepard barking??? I've never owned a German Shepard, but my last dog (Golden Ret) would bark if he heard anyone walking up the driveway let alone trying to knock the door down!!!

TheCigarNut 01-05-2012 03:29 PM

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I am from St. Louis city and to start off - I think people defending their property is not only understandable but a responsibility. Coming from an area where break-ins and murders are fairly frequent I will be the first to say that thinking a criminal will stick their tail between their legs and bolt when hearing a shotgun rack is mislead. Some of the rural areas, maybe even into the suburbs - sure, I can see that scenerio but I personally had someone break into my house on the south side of the city - racked the shotgun and the guy cussed at me and squeezed off 5 rounds through the wall. A professional/desperate criminal has already A) delt with it or B) doesn't care.

In respect to the young lady - do I think it was staged? Absolutley not. Could there be more to the story? I'd put money on it.

From what I have gathered - husband died recently, young man attempts to break into girls residence and was identified as someone who was stalking her. She contacts 911 requesting assistance and essentially 'permission to use dealdy force' if he enters the residence. Man and accomplice attempt to enter ( I think 20 minutes is an exageration unless the 'breaking in' was excessive knocking which turned to shoulder checking, picking the lock, etc ) and 1st to enter is shot upon entering.

I find it interesting more so than 'there is some excessive foul play at hand' - none the less - Hopefully the full 'truth' comes out and I hope those in commonwealth areas are able to defend themselves properly without the fear of prosecution.

Hornchen
Semper Fi

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tx_tuff (Post 1521578)
Well good for her for doing what she had too, in Texas she could have saved a 20 min phone call and shot him through the door! Hopefully it will have no long term effects on her.

I noticed the picture of her husband being from the 70s also, but hey to each their own.

Coop a shotgun is the best home defense, may be more messing but is much safer then a handgun. Makes even more sense if you have other family members in the house. A handgun is harder to aim and less accurate then a long gun. Plus you miss with a handgun round and it is going through walls and hitting stuff you can't see.

I would rather use a semiauto pistol myself, I just like the idea of having better maneuverability, and I'm fairly good at shooting pistols, more so than shotguns for some reason(I don't shoot much of my shotgun, only when duck hunting):r. I understand why the majority of people choose shotguns for home defense though.

Dr Voss 01-05-2012 03:52 PM

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One thing to remember about handguns for defense is that if you miss that bullet is going to go through a fair number of walls before it stops. It could be multiple rooms in your home or your neighbors. Just saying choose your weapons and target carefully, the worst thing would be to miss the bad guy and kill a bystander. IMO shotgun with lead shot or AR-15 with hollow tips are the safest, devastating on a soft target but will rarely penetrate a sheet rock wall. Second choice is a handgun. Best choice, whatever it takes to make the bad guy dead and you alive. Whatever the choice you gotta practice. In the moment you can't be figuring out how to use whatever you have, there are too many other choices that need made in that instant.

Coop 01-05-2012 03:56 PM

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Hollow tips in a handgun works for me!!!!

Also if I miss my mark, I may miss by a couple inches. Still going to hit the guy in the lung, neck, maybe shoulder if I went to bed drunk off of jack....

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Voss (Post 1521757)
One thing to remember about handguns for defense is that if you miss that bullet is going to go through a fair number of walls before it stops. It could be multiple rooms in your home or your neighbors. Just saying choose your weapons and target carefully, the worst thing would be to miss the bad guy and kill a bystander. IMO shotgun with lead shot or AR-15 with hollow tips are the safest, devastating on a soft target but will rarely penetrate a sheet rock wall. Second choice is a handgun. Best choice, whatever it takes to make the bad guy dead and you alive. Whatever the choice you gotta practice. In the moment you can't be figuring out how to use whatever you have, there are too many other choices that need made in that instant.

:tpd:
Practice a lot. The more the better.

mosesbotbol 01-05-2012 04:48 PM

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20 minutes is an eternity in a situation like that.

ChicagoWhiteSox 01-05-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1521802)
20 minutes is an eternity in a situation like that.

Sure is. It makes you wonder what really happened or what the real story is..


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