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Blueface 03-31-2010 01:08 PM

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My green label.
What's left of it.

Just peeled it off.
What a mess to clean up.
What should I use to get the glue off?

Sean9689 03-31-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 812124)
My green label.
What's left of it.

Still have the green label on mine as well...I've had this one for 8 years now and it's still there!

Blueface 03-31-2010 01:12 PM

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Cleaned up the mess with a bit of soapy water.
Looks and feels better for sure.

I was afraid to wet the watch trying to take it off (scroll down)


















JUST KIDDING!!!
Mine has seen many reefs.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 812128)
Cleaned up the mess with a bit of soapy water.
Looks and feels better for sure..

You're welcome.

tx_tuff 03-31-2010 01:21 PM

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Carlos, great story and I understand the Rolex prestige. But never wanted one myself. Do any of y'all ever have a problem with them? One post earlier said "doesn't keep good time but nice watch". Nice watch that doesn't keep good time? Anyway my point is that my ex worked at a jewelry store that had a watch maker certified to work on Rolex, and it was the most brought in watch with problems. My understanding is you pretty much have to wear them every day or get that automatic watch winder, other wise you will have problems.

Anyway I want a Concord watch myself, nothing to crazy under the $1000.00 mark.

Blueface 03-31-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tx_tuff (Post 812139)
Carlos, great story and I understand the Rolex prestige. But never wanted one myself. Do any of y'all ever have a problem with them? One post earlier said "doesn't keep good time but nice watch". Nice watch that doesn't keep good time? Anyway my point is that my ex worked at a jewelry store that had a watch maker certified to work on Rolex, and it was the most brought in watch with problems. My understanding is you pretty much have to wear them every day or get that automatic watch winder, other wise you will have problems.

Anyway I want a Concord watch myself, nothing to crazy under the $1000.00 mark.

I love my two tone Concord Saratoga.
Neat looking watch. Just afraid to wear it.

As far as the Rolex, mine keeps time very well.
My wife's and my mom's do also.
My dad's on the other hand, different story.
So 3 out of 4.

I had mine serviced once due to stupidity.
I beat the crap out of my mail box post with a bat (someone hit it with a car and it fell over), trying to dig it in a bit until I got the post replaced so I could still get mail delivery, and did it with my watch on. As result, stopped working completely and had to send it in to Rolex in NY. Cost me almost $600 by the time they were done, as also replaced the crystal, hands and forget what else (hands due to glow in the dark crap fading out).

My dad serviced his once due to not working well.
My mom and wife have never serviced theirs in nearly 14-15 years.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 01:34 PM

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Rolex keep as good a time as any other watch of that caliber. As long as they have the same vibration, they should have similar accuracy until they wear. The more jeweled the watch is, the less need for oil and oil oxidizes over time. Rolex is known for accuracy and ruggedness of the movement.

You watchsmith probably saw more Rolex as there are a lot of them. Current production is 800K+ a year. So, even if they were making 300k+ 30 years ago, that millions and millions of Rolexes around the world.

All automatic watch should be serviced about 4 years. If you have a tool to remove the case back, you can play around the advancement, but if it need service, it needs service.

Blueface 03-31-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 812153)
Rolex keep as good a time as any other watch of that caliber. As long as they have the same vibration, they should have similar accuracy until they wear. The more jeweled the watch is, the less need for oil and oil oxidizes over time. Rolex is known for accuracy and ruggedness of the movement.

You watchsmith probably saw more Rolex as there are a lot of them. Current production is 800K+ a year. So, even if they were making 300k+ 30 years ago, that millions and millions of Rolexes around the world.

All automatic watch should be serviced about 4 years. If you have a tool to remove the case back, you can play around the advancement, but if it need service, it needs service.

Moses,
I was under the impression my watch is built as a solid case, from the top down, as opposed to via opening the back as most watches.
I thought they built the case sort of like a boat and drop things in from the top down, making it difficult for just anyone to open them without causing markings to the case as they attempt to do so.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 01:39 PM

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Adjusting a watch is always a compromise as the time will gain or retard in certain positions. When they say a watch is adjusted to seven positions, the watch is actually in a cradle a turned in seven different positions. A ticker marks above or below a center line which indicates perfect timing. No watch is going to be perfect in every position, but ones with the Turbillion escapements come the closest.

tx_tuff 03-31-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 812153)
You watchsmith probably saw more Rolex as there are a lot of them. Current production is 800K+ a year. So, even if they were making 300k+ 30 years ago, that millions and millions of Rolexes around the world.

This makes a lot of sense.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 812158)
Moses,
I was under the impression my watch is built as a solid case, from the top down, as opposed to via opening the back as most watches.
I thought they built the case sort of like a boat and drop things in from the top down, making it difficult for just anyone to open them without causing markings to the case as they attempt to do so.

Yes and no. It is a solid milled case, but how would you open it then? Break the crystal, lol?

The case is opened with this:
http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ne/iu/r...ch-800X800.jpg

It does require skill as you don't want to scratch the back and more importantly putting back you don't want to crimp a gasket or something. Between a solid case (not sure if they use an inner case like on some watches) and thick crystal, it's pretty solid. Older Rolex use acrlylic crystal that is softer, but more adaptable and easier to polish.

Some watches have proprietary tools to open the caseback like Baume Mercier for instance. They want to make the money on the service or least make you buy their tool.

Blueface 03-31-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 812173)
Yes and no. It is a solid milled case, but how would you open it then? Break the crystal, lol?

The case is opened with this:
http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ne/iu/r...ch-800X800.jpg

It does require skill as you don't want to scratch the back and more importantly putting back you don't want to crimp a gasket or something. Between a solid case (not sure if they use an inner case like on some watches) and thick crystal, it's pretty solid. Older Rolex use acrlylic crystal that is softer, but more adaptable and easier to polish.

Some watches have proprietary tools to open the caseback like Baume Mercier for instance. They want to make the money on the service or least make you buy their tool.

I am not that naive.
I know they can be opened but thought it was from the top down, as opposed to most watches from the bottom in.

As to the tool, I was under the impression it was proprietary but some folks open them using similar tools, just not the same as Rolex.

Blueface 03-31-2010 01:51 PM

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Just thought I would mention CA is like going to college every day.
I learn as I visit.:D

jmsremax 03-31-2010 01:53 PM

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So can anyone get a discount on a Rolex?

Depending on the next step in my career I might be interested in getting one...still a ways off though :xxx

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 812181)
I am not that naive.
I know they can be opened but thought it was from the top down, as opposed to most watches from the bottom in.

As to the tool, I was under the impression it was proprietary but some folks open them using similar tools, just not the same as Rolex.

I am not an expert, but do not see how it could be opened from the crystal? You'd also have take off the hands and dial, and the swing mass & regualtor is still on the case back side.

Does not make sense. What I could find on the web all said it was the caseback like a normal watch. I am not saying, "I'm right, you're wrong", but haven't seen anything contrary online.

I would like to be wrong as it would be a lot more interesting to me.

cbsmokin 03-31-2010 01:59 PM

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The best "discount" on a Rolex from an authorized retailer is usually about 10%. You may have had to buy with them previously to get it. If you go outside the USA it can be more. Many dealers won't discount a Rolex because they know the guy behind you will pay full retail. You can get deeper discounts shopping on-line, but of course like other things we purchase on-line, know & trust your vendor.

jmsremax 03-31-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cbsmokin (Post 812195)
The best "discount" on a Rolex from an authorized retailer is usually about 10%. If you go outside the USA it can be more. Many dealers won't discount a Rolex because they know the guy behind you will pay full retail. You can get deeper discounts shopping on-line, but of course like other things we purchase on-line, know & trust your vendor.

I see....well when the time comes I will go to a dealer. I do not trust the internet for such a purchase. Thanks for the heads up.

Blueface 03-31-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cbsmokin (Post 812195)
The best "discount" on a Rolex from an authorized retailer is usually about 10%. If you go outside the USA it can be more. Many dealers won't discount a Rolex because they know the guy behind you will pay full retail. You can get deeper discounts shopping on-line, but of course like other things we purchase on-line, know & trust your vendor.

A good friend use to work for Rolex.
The easiest way to lose your account is to offer a discount.
Not to say folks don't do it.
I got 15% on mine via someone I knew but that could have cost him his account.

Blueface 03-31-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 812192)
I am not an expert, but do not see how it could be opened from the crystal? You'd also have take off the hands and dial, and the swing mass & regualtor is still on the case back side.

Does not make sense. What I could find on the web all said it was the caseback like a normal watch. I am not saying, "I'm right, you're wrong", but haven't seen anything contrary online.

I would like to be wrong as it would be a lot more interesting to me.

I am going to email my friend that use to work for Rolex in NY and inquire as I am really curious.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 02:04 PM

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I think I can get for 15% off in Biel, or for sure get the most sought after ones with no wait or overcharge. LNIB is the best bet with valid warranty card.

Blueface 03-31-2010 02:10 PM

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Moses,
Found this awesome link.
I was wrong and you were right, not that I thought I could be right as I don't know chit about watchmaking.
The only thing I was right about is they are a solid case but are opened from the back as traditional watches are.
Check out the images of the equipment used and how they do it.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=49454

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 02:23 PM

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Cool pictures, but I could not see where the watch is regulated from? Maybe someone else could point that out? Do they have a proprietary way of regulating their movements? Usually it's a + and - with an arrow between.

The machine that takes apart the case back in the vice or holds the watch while being worked might the kind of piece our machine shop manufacturers for Rolex.

dh01 03-31-2010 02:39 PM

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Dayum, nice watch. I wish my dad would have gone halfers on a $20K+ Rolex, well that and wished I had $10K when I was still in high school...haha.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dh01 (Post 812246)
Dayum, nice watch. I wish my dad would have gone halfers on a $20K+ Rolex, well that and wished I had $10K when I was still in high school...haha.

I see plenty of college students from South America with Daytonas every day. All they did to earn it is be born. :su

Blueface 03-31-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 812226)
Cool pictures, but I could not see where the watch is regulated from? Maybe someone else could point that out? Do they have a proprietary way of regulating their movements? Usually it's a + and - with an arrow between.

The machine that takes apart the case back in the vice or holds the watch while being worked might the kind of piece our machine shop manufacturers for Rolex.

My friend wrote back to me.
She says in addition to what was on that link, after they are done putting it back together, they place it in a special machine for 48 hours to pressurize it and then ensure water tight.
I will ask if she knows how they adjust it.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 812312)
My friend wrote back to me.
She says in addition to what was on that link, after they are done putting it back together, they place it in a special machine for 48 hours to pressurize it and then ensure water tight.
I will ask if she knows how they adjust it.

I think the pressure testing is after they do the 7 positon testing or regulating. If it was air tight, why open it again to adjust it at that point? Just my hunch.

0002S 03-31-2010 05:48 PM

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Here's my daily beater

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f...RolexSub-1.jpg

jmsremax 03-31-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 812436)

Daily beater....that is sick. That is my go to watch from Rolex if I can afford one down the road. What the heck do you do for a living for that to be your beater?!?! :su

colinb913 03-31-2010 07:30 PM

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Wow, that tool is a serious looking machine. Yes, they can be opened from the back, and all the settings are in there, but they are put under a extreme amount of pressure afterwards to make sure that they are sealed. Rolex is a serious watch. :) But I certainly cannot comment on how to ascertain a discount, except through a dealer..

Nor do I know how they adjust them. I love loev watches, but the inner workings are still a unknown boundary for me. I opened up a old watch from my grand-dad (RIP) and I slapped the back right back on.. Too complicated, too many small parts, too many things to mess up!

0002S 03-31-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jmsremax (Post 812556)
Daily beater....that is sick. That is my go to watch from Rolex if I can afford one down the road. What the heck do you do for a living for that to be your beater?!?! :su

What I did for a living was not have children so I could have a Sub daily beater. :r I bought this one years ago used from a friend who needed cash.

As Rolex goes, they aren't that expensive. They are almost indestructible. This one keeps pretty good time and runs about 5 minutes fast a month. I've never serviced it and wear it 90% of the time.

colinb913 03-31-2010 07:59 PM

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One years ago eh?

Darrell 03-31-2010 08:09 PM

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I hope the guy at the Flea Market gave you a good deal. :D

colinb913 03-31-2010 08:13 PM

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Haha, ohh he did! Great guy, can you believe that he threw in a LV wallet, and a pair of Diamond Earrings for just 25 bucks extra??

0002S 03-31-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by colinb913 (Post 812610)
One years ago eh?

1997 and it's a 80s date (I'd have to pull the papers out to get exact date)

I polished the watch because its easier to maintain the finish that the original brushed finish. It also allows it to dress up a little better.

This watch takes a daily beating. Surprisingly the crystal has held up well.

0002S 03-31-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 812626)
I hope the guy at the Flea Market gave you a good deal. :D

Deal yes, flee market no :r

mosesbotbol 03-31-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 0002S (Post 812644)
I polished the watch because its easier to maintain the finish that the original brushed finish. It also allows it to dress up a little better.

I was going to ask you about that as I noticed it was polished. Must be interesting in person. I think of Breitling when it comes to sporty polished watches. I know someone who polished his IWC Aquatimer and it was like a whole different watch.

0002S 03-31-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 812651)
I was going to ask you about that as I noticed it was polished. Must be interesting in person. I think of Breitling when it comes to sporty polished watches. I know someone who polished his IWC Aquatimer and it was like a whole different watch.

its different

Subs are the most common rolex. This just makes it not as commom

I got tired of having the band brushed from desk diving.

colinb913 03-31-2010 08:28 PM

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It is a beautiful watch. (Referring to 0002s)

0002S 03-31-2010 08:35 PM

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Well, I pulled the paperwork and its a 1991

My purchase date was 1997

0002S 03-31-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by colinb913 (Post 812665)
It is a beautiful watch. (Referring to 0002s)

thanks

taltos 03-31-2010 09:40 PM

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I would love to get a sub. I have my father's oyster day/date stainless from the early 60's (I think) and my own day/date in stainless that my wife bought me for my 50th birthday. I have worn my own one about 2 times and wear my dad's one daily because of the memories and my wife understands and does not hold it against me. I made the offer to get her a Rolex but she preferred the Seiko version of the watch.

Christoff 03-31-2010 10:03 PM

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Yet another example of one's inability to chose his or her parents. I graduated with a 3.7 and got accepted to a nice little private school. My Dad, the Uncles, and I sat down and had a dutch masters (my first cigar, and I thought it wasnt half bad :r) and a glass of 12 year Glenfiddich. A $12,000 watch?? That could have financed my freshman year!

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Originally Posted by Tripp (Post 811962)
Maybe someday... Or not.

Fanciest watch I've ever had is my Victornox.

:tpd: I love mine; Officer's LS, Chronograph. The bracelet has taken a beating but I swear the face is scratch proof indestructible.

icehog3 03-31-2010 10:09 PM

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I graduated high school, and was asked to find my own place to live. :r

Darrell 03-31-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 812801)
I graduated high school, and was asked to find my own place to live. :r

I graduated high school and still had to ask my Mom if it was OK to go hang out with my friends after.

Tripp 03-31-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Christoff (Post 812797)
Yet another example of one's inability to chose his or her parents. I graduated with a 3.7 and got accepted to a nice little private school. My Dad, the Uncles, and I sat down and had a dutch masters (my first cigar, and I thought it wasnt half bad :r) and a glass of 12 year Glenfiddich. A $12,000 watch?? That could have financed my freshman year!



:tpd: I love mine; Officer's LS, Chronograph. The bracelet has taken a beating but I swear the face is scratch proof indestructible.


Same model! The bracelet was nice and stiff when I first got it, but it's pretty rickety these days.

TheRiddick 03-31-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 812626)
I hope the guy at the Flea Market gave you a good deal. :D

I don't even think there IS a watch. Funny how a claim is made that there is no "good" camera available on hand to take a picture of the watch (and web image is used instead) and yet later on OP posts from his cell phone. Have you seen a cell phone lately without a decent camera built in? Someone running around with a collection of high end watches should be also in possession of a great cell phone as well, no? What do you think a parent would spend money on first, a good cell phone to reach his son or some expensive watch?

floydpink 04-01-2010 09:05 AM

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My uncle was a guy I admired as a youngster. He was a jeweler who I really didn't see much except Thanksgiving. He always had a cigar in his mouth and cool rings and stuff on his fingers.

I remember him saying a Rolex was a rite of passage into manhood.

Might be wrong or materialistic, but I couldn't wait to put one on my wrist and a Harley under my ass as fulfillment into things I really wanted but thought to be out of reach.

Perhaps the oddest part of the Rolex story is that I bought it by Poopalling a couple thousand dollars to a guy I knew nothing about except some guys in an old cigar forum said he was a good gorilla and he had a large ring guage.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...e69/Rolex1.jpg

Couldn't be happier and I found one that wasn't too "blingy" for my tastes.

Darrell 04-01-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 812837)
I don't even think there IS a watch. Funny how a claim is made that there is no "good" camera available on hand to take a picture of the watch (and web image is used instead) and yet later on OP posts from his cell phone. Have you seen a cell phone lately without a decent camera built in? Someone running around with a collection of high end watches should be also in possession of a great cell phone as well, no? What do you think a parent would spend money on first, a good cell phone to reach his son or some expensive watch?

It smells like total :bs.

I belonged to a forum several years ago for Car Enthusiasts. We had some similar posts. A kid claimed to own a MB S-600 Lorenser, if I recall. He posted all these photos of an S-600 and claimed it was his. However nobody was ever around to take photos of him next to his sweet ride. It turned out the S-600 did not come in a Lorenser and he was just some 15 yr old high school kid trying to act like he was hot ****.

Their are a lot similarities between our pal Colin and the kid I am referencing.

Tripp 04-01-2010 09:31 AM

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I think you guys need to calm down. He might just be nice kid who's proud he got a sweet gift, and everybody's getting on his ass about it. I'm not sure why everyone assumes he's just here to tell you stories.

jmsremax 04-01-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 813131)
It smells like total :bs.

I belonged to a forum several years ago for Car Enthusiasts. We had some similar posts. A kid claimed to own a MB S-600 Lorenser, if I recall. He posted all these photos of an S-600 and claimed it was his. However nobody was ever around to take photos of him next to his sweet ride. It turned out the S-600 did not come in a Lorenser and he was just some 15 yr old high school kid trying to act like he was hot ****.

Their are a lot similarities between our pal Colin and the kid I am referencing.

I completely agree with you and I stopped bothering with what the thread starter has talked about and I have been more interested in what others have posted. :2

Whether he's lying or not Rolex's are sweet and I would love to own one.


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