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Whipper Snapper 02-09-2010 10:35 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 753013)
And what might that be?

Please provide more information to the members here so that they can choose to go there or not.
Probably about how good looking you are Peter :r

Robert Mabona 02-09-2010 10:36 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 751125)
Oh, hell, I'll take a stab:

1. Cheesecloth is used to shade tobacco plants from harsh sun rays. Once harvested, cheesecloth is dropped and re-used as side-wall frame in next harvest. Corojo wrapper is tied to the cheesecloth frame to ensure it grows upright (and stronger).


2. Bunching methods. I thought there are 5, actually, any reason she is missing one? Anyway... In order of least complex to most complex:

Lieberman bunch, bunching technique used for machine rolled cigars
Book bunch
Accordion bunch
Entubado bunch, aka Entubar

There is also a Figurado (Hybrid) bunch - complexity wise on Entubado level and probably even more so, very intolerant to mistakes while bunching. Not sure why she has not included this method in her question unless she does not consider Lieberman bunch a "method".

3. Sir Walter Raleigh?

4. Alexander Hamilton's proposed tax package of 1794.

5. Cohiba is Taino Indians' word for tobacco plant. This is where I disagreed with a recent thread's premise and stated then and stating now that Cohiba, as a BRAND, was officially introduced in 1982, band, box and all.

6. Bellybando.
from what i have learned, "cohiba" is a smoking ritual performed by the "behike"(or "medicine man") and the the smoking artifact itself.

Robert Mabona 02-09-2010 10:39 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 752036)
How does knowing about tobacco and alcohol tax proposal of 1794 make you enjoy cigars more? Or what Churchill called his "paper" trick given the fact that no one else has used it since? Do you know what size and shape was it and HOW it was used meaning just how it fit over a cigar? What kind of paper used? Does the creator of the quiz?

Just curious.

Like I said, even really serious wine drinkers won't pass a well put together wine history quiz, I'd bet 90% fail even on professional level, and yet I have never heard anyone tell me that this lack of wine history knowledge makes them enjoy wine less. I'll even state that 90% of so called "sommeliers" in restaurants know very little about wine based on my experience and interacting with them. Yet I am sure they do enjoy wines tremendously.

It would make more sense if cigar smokers could ID cigar components in a blind taste. THAT is the true enjoyment of cigars, IMO, and true knowledge of a product.
try me

FriendlyMan 02-09-2010 10:43 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
This time its about Pairing Cigars and Bourbon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 753013)
And what might that be?

Please provide more information to the members here so that they can choose to go there or not.

mariogolbee 02-09-2010 10:44 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Mabona (Post 753088)
try me
:r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwfP2fSjA7U

Sorry, I belong to Adriftpanda and Sonic Mike.

TheRiddick 02-09-2010 10:47 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Mabona (Post 753088)
try me
You really think you can do better than the likes of Laube, Heimoff, Parker, Stone and others?

GKitty 02-09-2010 10:47 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Her most recent blog entry is about Cigars and Bourbon, a pair I know a few people around here enjoy.

*Edit - Too slow on the keyboard today*

mariogolbee 02-09-2010 10:49 AM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 753104)
You really think you can do better than the likes of Laube, Heimoff, Parker, Stone and others?
I think Huy and Mike can do better than anyone!:tg

Robert Mabona 02-09-2010 12:13 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 753104)
You really think you can do better than the likes of Laube, Heimoff, Parker, Stone and others?
and you stumped all of them? who are you, michel rolland?

GKitty 02-09-2010 01:15 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Well, I'm gonna do a lil bragging for a minute....

I won!! :wo :wo

Has my knowledge of cigar and tobacco history been expanded and enhanced? YES! Will my next stick taste better because of it? Probably not. Do I get to do a happy dance?!?! You betcha!! :dance:

I hope everyone who chose to participate had a good time. I know I learned a thing or three.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled shenanigans.

Robert Mabona 02-09-2010 01:19 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
congrats!

TheRiddick 02-09-2010 01:20 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Mabona (Post 753194)
and you stumped all of them? who are you, michel rolland?
No, I simply tasted with them, save for Parker. And watched them falter. Parker's notes are full of technical errors pointing to his obvious lack of understanding how wine is made. Others make errors when trying to guess how a wine was made. ALL of them falter when trying to assign particular flavors and traits to what they believe are choices made in a winery, beliefs that are often in error. I won't even get to the level of wine guys in retail and restaurants, very few are qualified and simply recite some keywords they learned without understanding what they actually mean.

In 2001, just a month after 9/11, I was in Boston on business and happened to be invited to attend their annual Mondavi Dinner. Only the best retail account people and their best customers buying Mondavi wines were allowed to attend (Mondavi paid for it) and the dinner started with a blind tasting, they poured 6 vintages of Mondavi Reserve, and people were asked to pin vintages to each glass. By the time they revealed 2nd glass, only one person in the room had 2 for 2. Let me repeat again, BEST retailers selling the wine.

I can cite many more examples of "professionals" failing miserably and personally observed by me. But hey, sounds like you have them all beat, my hat is off to you.

Anyway, its not a wine discussion thread and we disagree a lot, I see. No biggie to me.

marge796 02-09-2010 01:21 PM
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Congrats Crystal!!!


:wo


:wo


Chris.....

Robert Mabona 02-09-2010 01:37 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 753247)
No, I simply tasted with them, save for Parker. And watched them falter. Parker's notes are full of technical errors pointing to his obvious lack of understanding how wine is made. Others make errors when trying to guess how a wine was made. ALL of them falter when trying to assign particular flavors and traits to what they believe are choices made in a winery, beliefs that are often in error. I won't even get to the level of wine guys in retail and restaurants, very few are qualified and simply recite some keywords they learned without understanding what they actually mean.

In 2001, just a month after 9/11, I was in Boston on business and happened to be invited to attend their annual Mondavi Dinner. Only the best retail account people and their best customers buying Mondavi wines were allowed to attend (Mondavi paid for it) and the dinner started with a blind tasting, they poured 6 vintages of Mondavi Reserve, and people were asked to pin vintages to each glass. By the time they revealed 2nd glass, only one person in the room had 2 for 2. Let me repeat again, BEST retailers selling the wine.

I can cite many more examples of "professionals" failing miserably and personally observed by me. But hey, sounds like you have them all beat, my hat is off to you.

Anyway, its not a wine discussion thread and we disagree a lot, I see. No biggie to me.
i never said i'm more qualified than any of them. you inferred that. i simply asked you to "try me". one doesn't have to be famous to make valid, accurate statements. but you're spending a lot time entering text, shouldn't you be in the cellar? what labels do you "make-wine" for?
mondavi wines are boring, even at their best? :td
continuum on the other hand :tu

crystal, let us know what you got and post pics!

TheRiddick 02-09-2010 01:58 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
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Originally Posted by Robert Mabona (Post 753267)
... but you're spending a lot time entering text...
So, you're implying TRYING YOU, as you challenged, would not be a waste of time?

Funny... I am nowhere near Central FL any time soon, in any case...

icehog3 02-09-2010 02:21 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
My butt itches.

Robert Mabona 02-09-2010 02:44 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
moving on........

mash 02-09-2010 04:43 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 753327)
My butt itches.

That's not the same as "try me" is it?
Oh please, say no.

CigarNut 02-09-2010 04:59 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 753327)
My butt itches.
TMI, Tom, TMI. Particularly given where this thread seems headed :D

icehog3 02-09-2010 05:30 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
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Originally Posted by CigarNut (Post 753457)
TMI, Tom, TMI. Particularly given where this thread seems headed :D
Why do you think it itches? ;)

pnoon 02-09-2010 06:11 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 753501)
Why do you think it itches? ;)
Tom, methinks Michael does not understand the significance of your itchy bottom.

mariogolbee 02-09-2010 06:20 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Congrats Crystal!

GKitty 02-09-2010 09:10 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 753552)
Tom, methinks Michael does not understand the significance of your itchy bottom.
Wait... there's a significance to the itchy bottom?!?! I thought it was just a sign he's out of:

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0...AAAAAERoqA.jpg

Whipper Snapper 02-09-2010 10:56 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
I don't know anything about wine or cigars.
I do know a lot about my butt itching however.
At least I fit in this thread somewhere.

TheRiddick 02-09-2010 11:05 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
We're getting real close to discussing burlap underwear...

icehog3 02-09-2010 11:15 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 753906)
We're getting real close to discussing burlap underwear...
Closer than you know. ;)

GKitty 02-25-2010 06:13 PM
Re: Do you think you know a lot about Cigars?
 
Enough talk of itchy butts, let's check out the loot!! My prize package arrived today and Lindsay did right by me. Participating was an educating experience.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...Trinity001.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...Trinity002.jpg

These were the tie-breaker questions:
1) Which person in history invented the cigar bands we now take for granted and what was the reason behind the invention?
Catherine the Great - to keep the tobacco from staining her fingers.

2)From what culture did the modern word "cigar" come from and how was it originally spelled? Also, what was the original British
spelling for "cigar?"
The Origin of the word cigar comes from the native language of the ancient Mayans. The Mayans called the cigar a "Ciq-Sigan". The New English Dictionary of 1735 called the cigar a "seegar".

Kreth 02-25-2010 06:24 PM
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Nice score. Congrats! :tu
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