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JKim 12-18-2008 02:09 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
I seem to be on a dry spell. I can't seem to get anything together. Didn't have much luck in Tunica a few weekends ago. Although I finished up ahead overall for the trip, I was disappointed by my play at the 1/2 NL tables.

Got beat of a pot last night playing a home game. I've got QQ middle position raised to 15. BB (tight player called)

Flop Q 8 rag. He checks, I bet 15 knowing he's got something good. He smooth calls.

Turn A - He checks, I bet 25, he raises to 50. He'd been check-raising me all night catching me when I'm trying to steal the pot. I figure I've got him this time.

River 8 - He comes out firing 30 which I expected. No way he can check the River. I raise to 90. He considers and stalls, then goes all in for about 120 on top of his original 30.

I felt the pain before I even had to look at his cards. Of course I called, he turned over pocket A's. Interesting he smooth called pre-flop and the flop. I couldn't make anything else happen after that really.

Lost my last hand of the night with JJ against the same guy. He had Ac Kc. Flop 10c 7c 7r. Of course I couldn't get him off his hand after the flop. He caught his K on the turn.

Silound 12-18-2008 04:03 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
I play a local weekly tournament here at the shop, usually $20 NLH games, final two split 50/50.


Up about $1,000 this year. Hit a lucky month walking in with 40, walking out with over 200.

JKim 01-28-2009 03:12 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Here is the Scenario......

Let's say you're under the gun at a 1/2 NL Hold'em table. You've stepped away from the table for second, dealer asks what you would like to do. You say call blind. Middle position and late position limp in... You get back to the table and find you're holding Js 3s

Flop is Ks 8s 2s

You check. Middle position bet's 8, button calls, you call.

Turn is a blank

You check again, Middle position bet's 15, button calls, you call.

River is a blank

You come out firing 40, middle position folds, button without much thought raises to 140.

What do you do?

After the look of surprise in your face...... Button shows you the 7s....

You try and get a read off of button with some banter... What do you do?

JohnnyFlake 01-28-2009 03:38 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 199330)
Here is the Scenario......

Let's say you're under the gun at a 1/2 NL Hold'em table. You've stepped away from the table for second, dealer asks what you would like to do. You say call blind. Middle position and late position limp in... You get back to the table and find you're holding Js 3s

Flop is Ks 8s 2s

You check. Middle position bet's 8, button calls, you call.

Turn is a blank

You check again, Middle position bet's 15, button calls, you call.

River is a blank

You come out firing 40, middle position folds, button without much thought raises to 140.

What do you do?

After the look of surprise in your face...... Button shows you the 7s....

You try and get a read off of button with some banter... What do you do?

You be foolish to raise at that point! Your only option, IMHO, is to call. He may be slow playing the nut flush!

BigAl_SC 01-28-2009 03:58 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake (Post 199375)
You be foolish to raise at that point! Your only option, IMHO, is to call. He may be slow playing the nut flush!

I agree you can't walk away. with out playing with them, they could be:
pushing you out of a missed draw; pushing with trips, 2 pair, or his own missed draw; or he's got you crushed with the nuts.

call and either you win(70%) or lose(30%).

JKim 01-28-2009 04:51 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
So the money is right for you to call at a little better than 2 to 1 if the 70/30 percentage is right. Anyone think that you should fold in that position. Keep in mind this is a cash game, no tournament survival at stake here.

BigAl_SC 01-28-2009 05:50 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 199530)
So the money is right for you to call at a little better than 2 to 1 if the 70/30 percentage is right. Anyone think that you should fold in that position. Keep in mind this is a cash game, no tournament survival at stake here.

The 70/30 is a guess without knowing the players and a 1/2 game. Knowledge of them or higher stakes would change that.

JKim 01-28-2009 06:05 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Your right about the stakes and the players. Even if you're a 34% dog in the hand the money is still right to call.

At any rate I'm the one on the button. J3 saves himself 80 bucks (all he had in front of him) and mucks his hand. I was pretty surprised because I've made the same move on bluffs medium strength and strong hands and been called in each scenario. I had Qs 7s.

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On to the next scenario, button limps, SB with Ac Qh raises to 10, BB calls.

Flop Ah 8h 3h

In the small blind you bet 15. BB calls button folds.

Turn. 10h

2nd nut out of position you check. BB bets 25, what's your next move?

BigAl_SC 01-29-2009 05:51 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 199794)

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On to the next scenario, button limps, SB with Ac Qh raises to 10, BB calls.

Flop Ah 8h 3h

In the small blind you bet 15. BB calls button folds.

Turn. 10h

2nd nut out of position you check. BB bets 25, what's your next move?


25 into a 60 pot is probably a feeler bet. raise to 75 and either take it down or BB comes over the top all-in. either way you get the info without putting it all in.

JKim 01-29-2009 08:52 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Hey Big Al.. I meant to preface.. After the turn.. SB was sitting on about 150, BB had about 325. Same action?

BigAl_SC 01-29-2009 10:21 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 201167)
Hey Big Al.. I meant to preface.. After the turn.. SB was sitting on about 150, BB had about 325. Same action?

Probably..... Any smaller and you get no info. There is an argument that if your putting half your stack in, you might as well make it all. If its a loose player this might be the right choice.......

JKim 01-29-2009 10:26 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
SB pushes all-in, BB calls immediately....

I had A Kh :]

JKim 01-29-2009 10:27 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl_SC (Post 201413)
Probably..... Any smaller and you get no info. There is an argument that if your putting half your stack in, you might as well make it all. If its a loose player this might be the right choice.......

If I were in the SB position, I'd have to consider the next move. If I commit half my stack and get called or raised, can I walk away from the hand then?

What would I do on the River if smooth called on the turn. I don't know that the outcome of the chips would have turned out differently unless you could walk away either on the turn or river.

BigAl_SC 01-29-2009 11:07 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 201437)
If I were in the SB position, I'd have to consider the next move. If I commit half my stack and get called or raised, can I walk away from the hand then?

What would I do on the River if smooth called on the turn. I don't know that the outcome of the chips would have turned out differently unless you could walk away either on the turn or river.

Correct. The 75 bet only works and saves you money is you listen to the reason you made it. A smooth call or raise and you have to muck when ever BB puts the rest in. And that has to be on your read of the player.

JKim 02-01-2009 10:44 PM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Brain Teaser..

Playing Omaha High with starters 3d 3h 3s 9s (not that you'd get mixed up in a pot with these starters), what are at leasts 3 ways to make the nuts? There may be more, but I only know of 3.

Ollie 02-02-2009 11:22 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 209442)
Brain Teaser..

Playing Omaha High with starters 3d 3h 3s 9s (not that you'd get mixed up in a pot with these starters), what are at leasts 3 ways to make the nuts? There may be more, but I only know of 3.

Good one. I won't post the answer since i cheated. All I could come up with on my own was quad 9's.

Omahahahaha....

JKim 02-07-2009 11:22 AM

Re: How are you doing at the tables (Poker Thread)
 
It is interesting Ollie. :]

9 9 9 x x (for quad nines)

2 2 2 2 3 (for nut boat)

As Ks Qs Js 10s (for nut flush)


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