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King James 08-21-2009 12:41 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottastic (Post 517563)
As an AT&T employee, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Reception is currently changing for everyone, as AT&T users can no longer roam on T-Mobile's network. Not a big deal in some places, but in places like where I'm from, it's huge.

I have three active cell phones: a Blackberry Bold, iPhone 3G and the Google G1. The G1 is far and away my favorite of the three, but it's not for everyone. It has a capacitive touch screen like the iPhone, but it's not as responsive. It has a five line full qwerty keyboard that is unparalleled by anything out there. Out of the box, it's not terribly functional (in comparison to the iPhone), but unlike the iPhone, the G1 is completely malleable in it's operation. The G1 is a perfect balance between fun applications and "Web 2.0" business use.

The iPhone is the easiest, and the most fun phone ever. The capacitive touch screen is amazing, the new 3GS is speedy and nearly crash free (don't be fooled into the $99 3G!!), and there are millions of apps to use. My only qualm with the iPhone is that I use my phone for work a lot more than I do for play, and the iPhone does not excel in that area. If you're looking for a really fun device with lots of time wasting potential, nevermind a rockin' web browser, get the iPhone 3GS. Just remember, you can get 95% of it's functionality out of an iPod Touch.

What can I say about Blackberrys? They excel at what they do best, but fall lacking in many other areas. A Blackberry is first and foremost an Business Exchange phone. Email, Calendar, and Contacts management is arguably untouchable by any other mobile platform. I use my Blackberry for work. I send out mass text messages to staff, handle customer emails, organise my contacts within and outside the company, and write reports all on this device. The newer Blackberrys (Bold, Curve 8900, Tour) are especially good with excel documents, as the resolution allows you to see more rows and columns. Here are the major setbacks. Battery life of 3G/EvDO Blackberrys is quite lacking, and I rarely make it through the work day without charging my Bold (which has the worst battery by far, to be fair). There is a very limited number of applications that even come close to touching what has been done on the iPhone. The web browser in the new OS is very bad at handling scripting, so it runs just a bit faster than my old 2G iPhone. It's a business phone. They've done a lot to reach out to a broader audience, but at the end of the day, that's what it's for.

I'm partial to AT&T, so I'm not going to go into a tirade about how I feel about Big Red's business practices. Just know that in this brothers biased opinion, Verizon Wireless is one of the most backhanded, irresponsible companies I've ever known.

I wanted to go a bit into the nickel-and-diming. VZ is not alone in these practices, as there are plenty of peple with AT&T with the same problems. For both providers, the problem is more often than not bad provisioning on the account. For instance: if a customer does not want data on their phone (and it's not a smartphone) I will ask them if they would like me to block access to the data network to avoid overage charges. There is a drawback: even if you have unlimited messaging, MMS will not work if data is blocked. It's a matter of who your rep is, and how much they are willing to dig into your usage details. Whichever provider you go with, if the rep seems to be rushing you through the setup and explanation of your account, ask nicely if there is anyone in the store who specialises in account level provisioning (called SSRs at AT&T, not sure at VZ). If they are still dismissive, ask for a manager.

That being said, if you are getting an iPhone, the worry about nickel-and-diming is dropped to nearly nothing. I always recommend the 450 minute plan (unless you need more) with unlimited data and unlimited messaging. This comes to 89.99 a month - 98.xx after tax. Everything you buy is through your iTunes account. The only thing you can go over on is your minutes, which most do not.

I've rambled on ;s. If you have any questions, PM me anytime.

I think android has the possibility of being something great. the HTC Hero looks AWESOME!

And yes, some of the things Verizon does is very shady (like dumbing down all their devices! :td ) But in my area at least they still get the best service, which is what I really care about

Ahbroody 08-21-2009 12:45 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
:r this will go in circles and I have no intrest in wasting that time.
My error was in introducing a third option and stating my experiences with all three. I believe WM to be as capable and more so in most areas. This comes from a fair amount of experience with both.

As I said prior arguing with apple product owners always ends the same and it held true here. You would think I would have learned not to bother after years of doing this. My wife and I agree to disagree.


Great post scott very insightful. I like the G1 but am going to wait a while. I have an HTC Pro with windows mobileslide keyboard.

chenvt 08-21-2009 12:47 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Scott, one of the best answers I've gotten in helping to inform a decision.. If I really needed a blackberry for work, I'd make my office get it..

"Did you get that e-mail?"
"No, it was the weekend"
"Well we needed your input on something"
"Guess you should issue me a blackberry"

The iPhone is probably where I'm going towards.. I priced out the 450 anytime minutes and 200 txt messages which is equivalent to what I've been using on verizon for 4 years and never went over.. well except when the ex GF and I started dating.. oops.. Turns out to around $75 a month plus taxes, etc..

Thanks!

King James 08-21-2009 12:49 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 517576)
My error was in introducing a third option and stating my experiences with all three.
Introducing a third option is great, and many people use WiMo as well.

Your error was making inaccurate statements about the other 2 options. Hell maybe the new version of WiMo is that much better. I do have knowlege of RIM and Apple, so please enlighten me as to how WiMo is better and in what areas?

I'll be waiting with bated breath :rolleyes:





Okay Dan, threadjack over.... sorry to take away from your legitimate questions

If ATT coverage is good in your area by all means go with it. The monthly bill isn't THAT much more expensive than for other phones (In some cases it may not be any more expensive)

Just go with what you like after doing some research and trying the phones out :tu

Ahbroody 08-21-2009 12:52 PM
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Nah mate that would be a waste of both are time. You have your Iphone you should just go play a flight sim or something super cool.
thought you implied you had one. hmmm.

Fanboy? gd lord no one reads. I said it had a cool browser and some good apps. I said it was expensive and you paid for everything. I said Wimo has media features it doesnt and can play movies music etc. Have not heard fanboy since ATI v NVidia video card forums.

King James 08-21-2009 12:53 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 517584)
Nah mate that would be a waste of both are time. You have your Iphone you should just go play a flight sim or something super cool
I don't have an iPhone ;)

shilala 08-21-2009 01:02 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottastic (Post 517563)
Just know that in this brothers biased opinion, Verizon Wireless is one of the most backhanded, irresponsible companies I've ever known.
I'm feelin' ya, brother. I wouldn't piss on Verizon Wireless if they were on fire. :tf

King James 08-21-2009 01:09 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahbroody (Post 517584)
Fanboy? gd lord no one reads. I said it had a cool browser and some good apps. I said it was expensive and you paid for everything. I said Wimo has media features it doesnt and can play movies music etc. Have not heard fanboy since ATI v NVidia video card forums.
That would make two of us that don't read as Vic did not mention iPhone being for everyone, just pointed out an error in your statement which seemed to point to the fact that you lacked experience with iPhone compared to WiMo

Taking a step back having a pissing match over which company is better is useless as you stated. However, I really do not use an iPhone, I use a blackberry. I did have a WiMo phone and was not impressed, but that is my opinion. If which ever device you have works for you and has the features you like then who am I to say you are wrong. We are probably both making understatements about the capabilities of each OS, so I think agreeing to disagree as you suggested is the best solution.

However, nothing wrong with a discussion on each type of device :)

KenS 08-21-2009 01:27 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenvt (Post 517538)
ok guys, no pushing me down the slope on ipod apps... yet
Well, maybe just one :D

Ahbroody 08-21-2009 01:37 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Agreed Jim.

As to verizon I have not been with them for 4 years after they pulled some crap. I went with sprint cause of the plan i got and the piggyback with verizons network. I cant recommend anyone use verizon after my experience with them. Sprint had been issue free for 4 years. That said now they dont want to let me change phones unless I change plans. They are loosing money on my plan and they want them gone.

I would probablly go att over verizon cause of past experience. Would pick sprint over them all still do to piggyback agreement with verizon without all the vz bs.

shilala 08-21-2009 02:09 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
I just cvhecked while I was out, and the Navigon gps doesn't speak the name of the street I'm supposed to turn on. It just tells me where and when.
The chick also told me "caution" when I was going over the speed limit, and the screen shows all the signs and where everything is.
It's so incredibly awesome it it made me cry.
Verizon sucks. :tu
Just wanted to get that in there one more time before I pay my final bill with them.

floydpink 08-21-2009 04:38 PM
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No changing my mind about who makes the best phone, but I have been really stuck on this gps app thing and found a cool article making the decision a little bit easier to steer right of Tomtom, approach Navigon with caution, and probably yield for a bit before buying.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082100707.html

Resipsa 08-21-2009 04:56 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 517838)
No changing my mind about who makes the best phone, but I have been really stuck on this gps app thing and found a cool article making the decision a little bit easier to steer right of Tomtom, approach Navigon with caution, and probably yield for a bit before buying.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082100707.html
Interesting article, but I'd read it with caution since it only reviews two of the three apps available, and contains limited information

I'd point again to the ilounge article reviewing all three apps to anyone considering them.

As an aside the ilounge article contains an explanation of
amfeature Co-Pilot has that the others don't called "Local Search" Even stand alone gps units suffer from incomplete poi databases, which just goes with the territory. With CoPilot if you search for a
poi and it's not in the database, you can use local search which will connect to the Internet, find the poi info and complete your routing for you. Very cool
feature that no other unit has that I know of

ev

floydpink 08-21-2009 05:03 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Best I could figure out was I need to wait a bit and keep using my old Magellan gps in the car. Amazing that the box I paid $500 a couple years ago for, is now dinosaur in gps terms.

I seems like the smart phone gps software is on the cusp of really being good, if not by the top 3, but maybe someone not yet on the scene.

Once I figure out the best gps for the iPhone, I'm gonna buy a really cool motorcycle handlebar clip for the iPhone and I can have gps when I need it most; on the road to nowhere.

RGD. 08-21-2009 06:33 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenvt (Post 517297)
. . . I just priced out blackberry and for 450 minutes a month, 5GB data (smallest plan then had for data), and unlimited text and email, I'm looking at like $115 a month . . .

NATIONWIDE EMAIL & MESSAGING 450 MINS UNLIM BLACKBERRY $99.99

There ya go. That's the line from my Verizon bill on what I have and pay.

Unlimited email, messaging and data - the 450 minutes on the Blackberry data plan. And I'm here in the DC area also.

I think the iPhones are great - know people that have them, but I really love my BB Storm. It does everything that "I" want it to do. They have a great selection of apps now (not as extensive as the iPhone) and I can even import my iTunes playlist to my Storm.

One other item that people overlook - you can change out/exchange the memory card in the Storm. Can't do that on an iPhone.

Ron

cricky101 08-21-2009 06:51 PM
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Another iPhone fan here. I got the 3gs and it's the first smart phone I've tried. I love the music player aspect of it too and how easily it syncs with my laptop.

Initially I wanted a phone to sync with my gmail, google calendar, and have a web browser. I am yet to be disapointed.

Scottastic 08-24-2009 11:04 AM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RGD. (Post 518000)
NATIONWIDE EMAIL & MESSAGING 450 MINS UNLIM BLACKBERRY $99.99

There ya go. That's the line from my Verizon bill on what I have and pay.

Unlimited email, messaging and data - the 450 minutes on the Blackberry data plan. And I'm here in the DC area also.

I think the iPhones are great - know people that have them, but I really love my BB Storm. It does everything that "I" want it to do. They have a great selection of apps now (not as extensive as the iPhone) and I can even import my iTunes playlist to my Storm.

One other item that people overlook - you can change out/exchange the memory card in the Storm. Can't do that on an iPhone.

Ron
AT&T: 450 Minutes Unlimited Messaging Unlimited Data $89.99

Not saying you were, but it gets old when I hear people talk about how much more expensive AT&T is over Verizon with our smartphones. I just can't help shouting out when we're cheaper :D

shilala 08-24-2009 12:05 PM
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I have 900 minutes, unlimited data, and unlimited texting with at&t, and it's far cheaper than what I was paying at Verizon.
It's not apples to apples, but when I priced out the plan for the Storm, it was far more than at&t.
The main thing is that verizon nickled and dimed me to death, and with every new cool phone, they'd cripple most of the coolest features on the phone so they could charge me extra.
I hated the shiftlessness, lying, and downright greed.
My entire experience with at&t has been pleasant. Everything works far better than I ever imagined, and I'm happy.

Back to the gps app...
I've tried Navigon around town a few times now, and I could not be more pleased.
Actually, I'm thrilled. It is so much more user friendly than my last gps, does far more than I need it to do, picks up a signal almost immediately, and works better than I could have ever hoped. It was 70 bucks.
I'd have opted for tom tom, but I've used tom tom in the past, and quite frankly it doesn't compare to navigon on any level.
I'd recommend it to anyone in a minute, and I'm probably the second biggest dick on the planet when it comes to "insisting I get what I pay for.

I also don't do glowing reviews. I couldn't be more pleased with the iphone and I love it more every day.
I hated the Blackberry Storm before I even left the Verizon kiosk at the mall, and I'd really wanted one since I first read about it.
The only two rubs I have about the iphone are the inability to support flash and the inability to picture message. Those two things are supposed to be ironed out shortly.
Even if the flash issue is never resolved, I'll live.
I'd very much like to send a text message without having to email pics. I'd like to receive them without having to visit a website and type in a message ID and password that I can't possibly remember.
Once at&t supports the pic mailing from the texting app, I'll be very pleased. :tu
As it stands, it sucks. And it's silly that it's not supported.

aich75013 08-24-2009 12:18 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 521030)
Back to the gps app...
I've tried Navigon around town a few times now, and I could not be more pleased.
Actually, I'm thrilled. It is so much more user friendly than my last gps, does far more than I need it to do, picks up a signal almost immediately, and works better than I could have ever hoped. It was 70 bucks.
Glad to hear it.
I bought it this morning and left it downloading on my pc. I will sync when I get home.
It was over 1gb, so I didn't try to do it from my phone. As it was, iTunes estimated 1 hour for download on my pc.

Now I need to check ebay for a car mount.

coastietech 08-24-2009 12:21 PM
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Here is something I wrote up on another forum for someone who was asking about smart phones. It may help. The information is about 3 months old. The new Iphone 3GS allows cut and paste and stereo bluetooth...

Quote:
I have had a Blackberry Storm and a Blackberry Bold. I have also had a number of WinMo phones like the HTC Touch, the HTC 8525 and a few others. I will be very hard pressed to use anything but a Blackberry in the future.

If you worried about getting the WinMo office utilities BB has their own version that comes with the phone and they work just as well.

The user interface on a BB is very friendly and easy to figure out. They are probably the most customizable phones on the market at this point. And with the advent of the BB App Store they are developing a large number of 3rd party applications.

The Iphone is a decent suggestion. There are a couple of issues that may or may not be a big deal to you. They are as follows...
-As of right now you can't send MMS. Meaning the only way you can share videos or pics is to email them you can't text them
-As of right now you can't cut and paste text
-You can't run more than one application on the phone at a time and there are no background apps. So for instance if you are using a program to give you directions somewhere and you want to send a text you have to completely exit out of the nav program, send your text and then start the nav program up all over again. BB allows you to leave open multiple programs and multi task.
-Iphone does not have A2DP therefor you can not get stereo bluetooth. So listening to movies or music via bluetooth is not an option.
-No push email. The Iphone will fetch your email every 15 mins at minimum but you will never get it instantly like on the BB.

The first two issues are supposed to be remedied this summer with the release of Iphone 3.0 I wouldn't hold my breath.

The Curve is a great phone. It is built well, very stable, and will do everything you want it to and more. Matter of fact it just outsold every other phone on the market this quarter. The only disappointing thing about the Curve on Sprint is the lack of 3G. It has Wifi but if your not in a hotspot your stuck surfing the internet as slow GPRS speeds.

If you can wait another month for a phone the Palm Pre will be debuting on Sprint and it's supposed to be one of the best phones available. I have read quite a few reports on it and it is going to be a great touch screen phone. The completly redid the entire Palm operating system and the have quite a few new innovations. I would atleast google it and see it if it interests you. It is going to me out end of May or early June.

Hope this helps...

joeybear 08-24-2009 12:32 PM
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My wife and I both have iPhones and we love them. The batteries don't last too long if messed with a lot during the day, but the phones are great!

shilala 08-24-2009 12:53 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aich75013 (Post 521044)
Glad to hear it.
I bought it this morning and left it downloading on my pc. I will sync when I get home.
It was over 1gb, so I didn't try to do it from my phone. As it was, iTunes estimated 1 hour for download on my pc.

Now I need to check ebay for a car mount.
Adrian, if you find a decent car mount, let me know, will ya?
I need one too. I ordered a double round of chargers house and car) and usb cables last week and already got them.
Never thought about the car mount though.
I'd like a half decent one. I had one before and it was really a cheap pos.

aich75013 08-24-2009 01:08 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 521084)
Adrian, if you find a decent car mount, let me know, will ya?
I need one too. I ordered a double round of chargers house and car) and usb cables last week and already got them.
Never thought about the car mount though.
I'd like a half decent one. I had one before and it was really a cheap pos.
I just ordered a super cheap one for 2.99 shipped from FleaBay. It'll probably be junk, but only $3 wasted.
I saw another that the phone actually clipped into, but I keep mine in an inCase hard case, so I doubt the clip version will work. and I don't want to have to take it out of the case to use the mount.
Saw one at WallyWorld today, but they wanted $25 for basically the same as the $3 one.
I'll let you know when I get it. It's supposed to be shipped from the US.

shilala 08-24-2009 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aich75013 (Post 521097)
I just ordered a super cheap one for 2.99 shipped from FleaBay. It'll probably be junk, but only $3 wasted.
I saw another that the phone actually clipped into, but I keep mine in an inCase hard case, so I doubt the clip version will work. and I don't want to have to take it out of the case to use the mount.
Saw one at WallyWorld today, but they wanted $25 for basically the same as the $3 one.
I'll let you know when I get it. It's supposed to be shipped from the US.
Thanks brother. :)

massphatness 08-24-2009 01:38 PM
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IMPORTANT FYI on the iPhone: Do not, I repeat: DO NOT submerge it underwater for a significant period of time. Apparently all the wires and gizmos inside the thing don't like it.

Also, if you're expecting remnants of a hurricane to pass through your area while you're at an outdoor concert, do not assume that placing your iPhone in a backpack with the backpack under a tarp is necessarily going to protect it from the elements. See FYI above for additional info.

JE3146 08-24-2009 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 521125)
IMPORTANT FYI on the iPhone: Do not, I repeat: DO NOT submerge it underwater for a significant period of time. Apparently all the wires and gizmos inside the thing don't like it.

Also, if you're expecting remnants of a hurricane to pass through your area while you're at an outdoor concert, do not assume that placing your iPhone in a backpack with the backpack under a tarp is necessarily going to protect it from the elements. See FYI above for additional info.
Ummmmmm..... Duh. :r
Posted via Mobile Device

massphatness 08-24-2009 01:53 PM
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Just trying to add my first hand knowledge and experience to the thread. :banger

Resipsa 08-24-2009 02:03 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
For the guys looking for a car mount, I'm using the griffin window seat and love it. Set you back 30 at the apple store or BB, but I found a bunch of them at my local tjMaxx for under 10 bucks and amazons has it for 12. Only thing it can't be in a case, it's specifc to the iphone and locks it in very securely with little wiggle room

chenvt 08-24-2009 02:07 PM
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I went inside the ATT store yesterday looking to purchase.. played around the iphone for about 30 minutes, tried to find some help, couldn't get any so I walked out..

now I'm thinking about the LG enV Touch as a nice compromise.. more research to be conducted :D

Resipsa 08-24-2009 02:17 PM
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no wifi on that phone, you'd be stuck with verizone and this from a review:

The recently released LG enV Touch is no smartphone like the iPhone or Palm Pre, but it certainly impresses as a high-end feature phone.

chenvt 08-24-2009 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resipsa (Post 521161)
no wifi on that phone, you'd be stuck with verizone and this from a review:

The recently released LG enV Touch is no smartphone like the iPhone or Palm Pre, but it certainly impresses as a high-end feature phone.
Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.

King James 08-24-2009 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chenvt (Post 521181)
Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.
I thought Verizon (being CDMA) is actually worse to have if you are going out of the country versus GSM providers that use SIM cards

joeybear 08-24-2009 03:21 PM
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I'm not sure about BB phones, but the iPhones have a somewhat shitty warrantee. The $70 warranty only covers phone defects, not if anything happens to it from being dropped. One of the kids at my son's daycare got ahold of my iPhone and shattered the glass. I thought it was covered through the warranty...it wasn't. $200 to replace the phone. The warranty only covers if something goes wrong with the internals or software.

Resipsa 08-24-2009 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by King James (Post 521235)
I thought Verizon (being CDMA) is actually worse to have if you are going out of the country versus GSM providers that use SIM cards
I think what he's talking about here Jim is you can pay a 10 per month fee, and it kind of puts your account on hold while you're out of the country and can't use it. That way you don't get hit with the full bill while you're gone. Seems I read something about that somewhere

floydpink 08-24-2009 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 521084)
Adrian, if you find a decent car mount, let me know, will ya?
I need one too. I ordered a double round of chargers house and car) and usb cables last week and already got them.
Never thought about the car mount though.
I'd like a half decent one. I had one before and it was really a cheap pos.
Google "in your face iphone holder"

That's the one I bought and love it.

Ahbroody 08-24-2009 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chenvt (Post 521181)
Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.

Dan another option you have if you go with verizon is to get what they call a world phone. Both sprint and verizon have these, but I dont know if sprint has the 10.00 option. They allow the use of a simcard in these phones when in europe or most of asia.
Some of the world phones on Verizon right now are the
HTC Ozone
Blackberry 8830 world and 9630 and I believe the storm.
Samsung saga and renown
Motorola a840 or z6c
Some more as well I believe, hope this helps.
Just go to the verizon site and type in sim or gsm

Scottastic 08-24-2009 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeybear (Post 521255)
I'm not sure about BB phones, but the iPhones have a somewhat shitty warrantee. The $70 warranty only covers phone defects, not if anything happens to it from being dropped. One of the kids at my son's daycare got ahold of my iPhone and shattered the glass. I thought it was covered through the warranty...it wasn't. $200 to replace the phone. The warranty only covers if something goes wrong with the internals or software.
If you didn't have Apple Care it would have been $600, fyi.

floydpink 08-24-2009 05:32 PM
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A coworker cracked his iPhone screen on the desk, put it on Ebay and sold it in the Phillipines for 700 bucks, or so he says.......

shilala 08-24-2009 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeybear (Post 521255)
I'm not sure about BB phones, but the iPhones have a somewhat shitty warrantee. The $70 warranty only covers phone defects, not if anything happens to it from being dropped. One of the kids at my son's daycare got ahold of my iPhone and shattered the glass. I thought it was covered through the warranty...it wasn't. $200 to replace the phone. The warranty only covers if something goes wrong with the internals or software.
I bought a warranty from SquareTrade. $115 covers breakage, stupidity, loss, theft, whatever for two years. :tu

RGD. 08-24-2009 09:04 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
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Originally Posted by chenvt (Post 521181)
Yeah aware of that.. but I was thinking maybe I don't really need a smartphone or anything like that.. and in my area, getting stuck with verizon which I've never had connection problems with isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Plus I couldn't get a consistent answer out of ATT what happens when I get sent out of country due to my job. Verizon lets me pay just a $10 a month maintenance fee.

The Verizon Blackberry Storm and Tour are both considered "Global Phones" and apparently can be used around the world. You'd just have to check on the service price plans. But this way you keep the same phone no matter where your job is.


Ron

chenvt 08-25-2009 02:12 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
Should have added, I get issued a cell phone when I go overseas, so I why carry two :)

XTRazzer 08-25-2009 08:14 PM
Re: Advice on iPhone versus Blackberry
 
I just got a BB Tour over the weekend. Very nice phone. About the only gripes thus far is the screen has a minor ripple and the buttons could be a bit bigger. I believe the price on it has dropped $50 in the past few days, should that influence your decision. The tour replaces the 8830 World Phone and the Curve.

I would avoid a BB Storm like the plague given it's history of issues.


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