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rennD 05-13-2009 03:47 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Agreed Xubuntu is very light. I prefer Gnome.

I have used Ubuntu on a system that had a 1Ghz processor and 128MB of RAM with no trouble at all. Slowness here and there, but what do you expect when running a modern operating system on a dinosaur PC?

You can always install the standard Ubuntu and then just install XFCE after the fact, if it is slow.

SeanGAR 05-13-2009 08:23 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I've always found PCLOS to be much faster than X/K/Ubuntu. You can choose KDE/XFCE/Gnome as the windows manager with PCLOS pretty easily. Mint and Mepis are also excellent distros to try. I'm running PCLOS 2009 on an IBM X20 PIII 650 with 386MB RAM no problems.

Tristan 05-14-2009 06:26 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 381622)
I've always found PCLOS to be much faster than X/K/Ubuntu. You can choose KDE/XFCE/Gnome as the windows manager with PCLOS pretty easily. Mint and Mepis are also excellent distros to try. I'm running PCLOS 2009 on an IBM X20 PIII 650 with 386MB RAM no problems.

PCLOS 2009 is really sweet. Ran it under virtual box for a while to play around with it. I might have to try to partition some space off and run it full blown for a while!

rennD 05-14-2009 06:30 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Linux Distros are like cigars :D So many good ones. Try them and choose the one that is the best fit for you.

Try this:
http://www.polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/

It will help you choose a distro :tu

Rabidsquirrel 05-14-2009 07:06 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Finally upgraded the other night. Everything went smoothly, I need to read up on some of the changes.

BC-Axeman 05-14-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 381622)
I've always found PCLOS to be much faster than X/K/Ubuntu. You can choose KDE/XFCE/Gnome as the windows manager with PCLOS pretty easily. Mint and Mepis are also excellent distros to try. I'm running PCLOS 2009 on an IBM X20 PIII 650 with 386MB RAM no problems.

I'm on Mepis now. I migrated from SuSE. I like any debian linux better than the RPM based ones. Ubuntu based debians are a little harder to keep bleeding edge upgraded than raw debian. I've messed around with Solaris, SCO, IRIX, HPUX, and different *BSDs and I like what I've got now. But that said, I have to agree with the above comment by rennD.

kenstogie 09-13-2009 02:48 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I am downloading ubuntu 9.04 now but would like to try a live cd or thumb drive before I take the plunge. How do I do that? I am not super geek but I am kind of geeky in some areas. Also I am on a "off brand" laptop (Medion) which is why I want to do the live cd thing first.

rennD 09-13-2009 04:15 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
If you are downloading the Desktop CD then it is a liveCD.

VirtualSmitty 09-13-2009 04:27 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 547416)
I am downloading ubuntu 9.04 now but would like to try a live cd or thumb drive before I take the plunge. How do I do that? I am not super geek but I am kind of geeky in some areas. Also I am on a "off brand" laptop (Medion) which is why I want to do the live cd thing first.

Download the iso and if you have a usb or flashcard handy go get unetbootin and use that to try it out.

Tristan 09-13-2009 06:56 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
This is a pretty good how-to on burning the live cd. If you want to install on a bootable flash drive there is a link a few inches down the page that will show you:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto

kenstogie 09-13-2009 08:22 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Workin on it now!

kenstogie 09-13-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Got it all working, it's a little different but I could get used to that no problem. I also set up a Live thumbdrive to make startups a little easier as I figure out if I want to make the switch. So it all went well except the Wifi. I looked for a few mins 10 or so but really didn't know what to do. Is there a control panel or something? Any suggestions?

rennD 09-13-2009 09:16 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Check restricted drivers section to make sure that the wifi card is enabled.

kenstogie 09-14-2009 03:42 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rennD (Post 547932)
Check restricted drivers section to make sure that the wifi card is enabled.

Thanks I'll take a look.

Tristan 09-14-2009 08:39 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Should be a network icon in the panel next to the date/time. What hardware are you running? What is your wireless card? When I've had issues with wireless cards in the past I've done a Google search to see if anyone else has run into similar issues. There have been a few times where I knew the hardware just wouldn't work with the time/effort I was willing to put in. Luckily, this hasn't happened with any hardware that I own.

Hopefully your wired connection still operates and you have access to plug straight in to a router, etc. If so, you can click on System - Administration - Hardware Drivers and see if Ubuntu finds any drivers for your wireless card.

If it doesn't find any, you can still use windows wireless drivers by downloading from the manufacturer and using ndiswrapper. The operation could get a little more complicated then desired, but searching through the Ubuntu forums really helps in these situations.

kenstogie 09-14-2009 09:05 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I'll give it a shot thanks Tristan.

s0leful0ne 09-14-2009 10:44 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
This may be a long shot but I just installed ubuntu 9.04 via virtual machine using VMWare Fusion. I've had trouble installing the VMWare tools, does anyone have any experience with this?

BC-Axeman 09-14-2009 11:39 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s0leful0ne (Post 548714)
This may be a long shot but I just installed ubuntu 9.04 via virtual machine using VMWare Fusion. I've had trouble installing the VMWare tools, does anyone have any experience with this?

Yes. The installation does not include the kernel headers or libraries by default. There may also be trouble with the version of gcc installed vs what the kernel was compiled with. The error message from the tools installation would be helpful.

kenstogie 09-14-2009 12:09 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
So I loaded up a thumb drive with Ubuntu and brought it to work, plugged it in and low and behold it worked. It also browsed the internet rather easily. Is this frowned upon by the IT department? I have a feeling it is but thought I would ask the inmates.


FWIW I only used it for about a minute so I could have "plausible deniability" that and I have known the IT Guy for a decade and I'll be asking him as soon as I can.

BC-Axeman 09-14-2009 01:28 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 548817)
So I loaded up a thumb drive with Ubuntu and brought it to work, plugged it in and low and behold it worked. It also browsed the internet rather easily. Is this frowned upon by the IT department? I have a feeling it is but thought I would ask the inmates.


FWIW I only used it for about a minute so I could have "plausible deniability" that and I have known the IT Guy for a decade and I'll be asking him as soon as I can.

:eek:
:lv
:r
Totally depends on where you work. If it's the Gov. you may get in big trouble. Some places could fire you. Most places would go "huh?"

kenstogie 09-14-2009 01:43 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
:rolleyes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 548949)
:eek:
:lv
:r
Totally depends on where you work. If it's the Gov. you may get in big trouble. Some places could fire you. Most places would go "huh?"

I'll be alright I just did it to see if it would work. I know they use a linux distro on thier boxes for trouble shooting/back up etc so it's not to big a deal and I've known the IT guys for years and seem to recall them doing this very thing. Getting on the network they would be more ticked at than using the hardware. :rolleyes: but I appreciate the info on IT dpt Opinion.

Tenor CS 09-14-2009 04:07 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I used a thumb drive with puppy linux almost exclusively at work the whole last year. Their windows xp based machines were so poorly maintained, puppy freed me from a lot of hassles. It's amazing what decent hardware can do when it's not being bogged down by a badly maintained windows setup.

Tristan 09-14-2009 06:12 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
BTW, Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Alpha 5 is running great on my Dell Mini 10V netbook. The speed CRUSHES Windows XP. There are a few bugs that need to be worked out, but by the time of the official release I think it will be a nice step up from the current version.

A few things look promising. 9.10 uses EXT4 partitions by default, Firefox 3.5 and Ubuntu One, an application that automatically uplinks and syncs files between computers. Pretty cool! :banger

VirtualSmitty 09-14-2009 07:08 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan (Post 549367)
A few things look promising. 9.10 uses EXT4 partitions by default, Firefox 3.5 and Ubuntu One, an application that automatically uplinks and syncs files between computers. Pretty cool! :banger

I haven't played with the 9.10 alpha yet, how does ubuntu one stack up against dropbox? I use it know and like it a lot.

kenstogie 09-14-2009 07:08 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
So I have a Medion Laptop (who?) Yea that's what everyone says except Europeans some times. It's kind of semi old 3 years and I did the google search on my Winbond W89C33 mPCI 802.11 Wireless LAN Adapter. And of the 8 or so hits/post I sampled...

"winbond is not supported in linux nor does ndiswrapper support it." or something similiar.

Many were in other languages too.


So for me it's back to Winblows. Oh well. At least I have the actual install disc

BC-Axeman 09-14-2009 09:03 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 549504)
So I have a Medion Laptop (who?) Yea that's what everyone says except Europeans some times. It's kind of semi old 3 years and I did the google search on my Winbond W89C33 mPCI 802.11 Wireless LAN Adapter. And of the 8 or so hits/post I sampled...

"winbond is not supported in linux nor does ndiswrapper support it." or something similiar.

Many were in other languages too.


So for me it's back to Winblows. Oh well. At least I have the actual install disc

You could always get a PCcard or usb wireless adapter. It will likely work better anyway. Then you can run Kismet ;)
You should search first for compatibility.

kenstogie 09-15-2009 06:31 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 549785)
You could always get a PCcard or usb wireless adapter. It will likely work better anyway. Then you can run Kismet ;)
You should search first for compatibility.

If I could get one cheaply and it's not a big thing to get it going I am not adverse to it. With budget laptops being fairly inexpensive I may opt for a new one, when my current one gives up the ghost.

Tristan 09-15-2009 06:43 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 549503)
how does ubuntu one stack up against dropbox? I use it know and like it a lot.

I'll have to give it a shot! :banger I've tried Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu netbook remix, DSL and PC Linux as well as Knoppix, but there are many distros I haven't played with yet!

VirtualSmitty 09-15-2009 09:39 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan (Post 550191)
I'll have to give it a shot! :banger I've tried Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu netbook remix, DSL and PC Linux as well as Knoppix, but there are many distros I haven't played with yet!

Dropbox isn't a distro, it's a service that let's you sync files between mac, linux, or windows. I've been using it for some time as I use all three and it is convienient. Ubuntu One sounds like it does the same thing.

Tristan 09-15-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty (Post 550436)
Dropbox isn't a distro, it's a service that let's you sync files between mac, linux, or windows. I've been using it for some time as I use all three and it is convienient. Ubuntu One sounds like it does the same thing.

Gotcha! Ubuntu One isn't working perfectly yet, still in beta. I like the concept and it seems like it will be slick when the bugs are worked out. I'll have to look into Dropbox a little more, fees, storage, etc.

Footbag 09-19-2009 06:36 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Just installed Ubuntu the other day on three desktops. One old Dell got a fresh install, but I'm dual booting it on a newer Gateway laptop and Systemax desktop.

All of this started with a HD crash that almost wiped out my data. I've been amazed at the tools available for Ubuntu. Gparted is awesome. Also using 3d desktop and the AWN dock on the computers that can handle it.

rennD 09-19-2009 07:57 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Compiz is getting so many new updates. I run the dev version of Compiz. You will need a beefy Vid card though.

BC-Axeman 09-19-2009 08:45 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
My vid card can handle compiz just fine but it didn't seem to play nice with the kernel or KDE or something and would crash when I was switching virtual terminals. Maybe they have fixed that by now.

Footbag 09-19-2009 11:00 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Compiz goes crazy on my old P4 desktop with an Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200. I think it's a conflict with that driver.

Seems to work with much fewer issues on the newer desktop and laptop.

rizzle 09-21-2009 09:30 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
What in the hell are y'all talking about????

Sincerely,

Technologically Illiterate

:r:r

Tristan 09-21-2009 10:21 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag (Post 557795)
Just installed Ubuntu the other day on three desktops. One old Dell got a fresh install, but I'm dual booting it on a newer Gateway laptop and Systemax desktop.

All of this started with a HD crash that almost wiped out my data. I've been amazed at the tools available for Ubuntu. Gparted is awesome. Also using 3d desktop and the AWN dock on the computers that can handle it.

I'm with you! I love Gparted and I keep Ubuntu on a flash drive for doing partition work. Sudo Gparted baby! Also, Ubuntu on a flash is great if someone comes to me with a virus infected windows machine that needs everything backed up. It works 99% of the time and loads any external drive to do a back up. Just a few quick easy steps before performing a complete restore.

Another way Ubuntu is great on the flash drive is if you have to reinstall Grub after making changes to your MBR.

I haven't ran AWN dock in a long time. I should give it another shot!

Footbag 09-22-2009 05:38 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan (Post 560434)
I'm with you! I love Gparted and I keep Ubuntu on a flash drive for doing partition work. Sudo Gparted baby! Also, Ubuntu on a flash is great if someone comes to me with a virus infected windows machine that needs everything backed up. It works 99% of the time and loads any external drive to do a back up. Just a few quick easy steps before performing a complete restore.

Another way Ubuntu is great on the flash drive is if you have to reinstall Grub after making changes to your MBR.

I haven't ran AWN dock in a long time. I should give it another shot!

Yup Gparted is awesome. I burned the LiveCD and partitioning takes seconds. Being that I didn't end up losing any data, the crash ended up being a good thing.

I need to get a new USB drive. But are older systems compatible? USB boot is a bios setting, correct?

AWN dock is pretty cool, but it is very buggy. But if drag and drop into the dock works, then you're good!

Tristan 09-23-2009 02:09 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag (Post 563007)
I need to get a new USB drive. But are older systems compatible? USB boot is a bios setting, correct?

Bingo! It depends how old the machine is an if they have brought out any bios revisions. Being that you need Windows in most cases to flash bios most of the time this may be difficult if these machines got hosed or had a hard drive failure.

I would make a wild guess and say anything over than 6+ years might not have the usb boot feature. I just found something interesting. Seems you can boot into a CD that will boot from USB without BIOS support. Sounds kind of crazy to me, but it might be ideal for some:

http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action...parentID=10682

BC-Axeman 09-23-2009 02:45 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I was about to mention that you can upgrade flash from a boot floppy (what's a boot floppy?)
LOL

Footbag 09-23-2009 02:52 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan (Post 564386)
Bingo! It depends how old the machine is an if they have brought out any bios revisions. Being that you need Windows in most cases to flash bios most of the time this may be difficult if these machines got hosed or had a hard drive failure.

I would make a wild guess and say anything over than 6+ years might not have the usb boot feature. I just found something interesting. Seems you can boot into a CD that will boot from USB without BIOS support. Sounds kind of crazy to me, but it might be ideal for some:

http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action...parentID=10682

As I think about it, yes... USB boot would be very cool. But booting to a CD just so you can USB boot doesn't really seem to efficient. I would bet that most of the computers I may encounter will be USB bootable, but if it's not, I'll just throw in the live CD. But if the computer is USB bootable, it's pretty sweet that you can have the fix on your keychain.

Got to show off Ubuntu during a meeting at work this morning. I was showing a sales rep and sales manager of a furniture company various ad's we've used, and I flipped the cube to open a new desktop. First a "whoa", then an "is that Windows 7?" I told them it was Ubuntu, which they had never heard of.

What kind of bugs are you finding on 9.10?

kenstogie 09-23-2009 06:37 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
My internal wireless card in not compatible with Ubuntu, So I got to thinking (scary, I know) I have a Rosewill RNX-G100 USB Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g
Could I simply plug that in or perhaps load drivers for it?

BC-Axeman 09-23-2009 06:44 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I searched for that Roswill adapter and found one mention of it working with Ubuntu after loading with ndiswrapper (which loads the windriver). Spotty reception was mentioned. :2

Footbag 09-23-2009 06:46 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstogie (Post 564732)
My internal wireless card in not compatible with Ubuntu, So I got to thinking (scary, I know) I have a Rosewill RNX-G100 USB Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g
Could I simply plug that in or perhaps load drivers for it?

A google search imiplied it can be done with ndiswrapper. Never had any personal experience. Give that a google and see what you can come up with.

BC-Axeman 09-23-2009 07:01 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I use altavista still. Even though it's a stripped down yahoo.

AD720 09-23-2009 07:55 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I've been trying out Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my Dell netbook (booting off a "live cd" on a jump drive). It's really great!

Tristan 04-20-2010 02:13 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Who's stoked about 10.04? Looks like it's going to be an improvement for those with Nvidia graphics and who want a faster boot time! I'm hoping they solve hd video playback and digital audio output issues!

VirtualSmitty 04-20-2010 02:23 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan (Post 833618)
Who's stoked about 10.04? Looks like it's going to be an improvement for those with Nvidia graphics and who want a faster boot time! I'm hoping they solve hd video playback and digital audio output issues!

I don't like how they moved some buttons to the left ala OSX, but lots of little improvements I like. Looks like they pushing social integration, Facebook, myspace, and twitter right up in the desktop. Which is cool for people who use them I guess.

SeanGAR 04-21-2010 07:13 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
The new PCLinuxOS 2010 is freakin awesome.

BC-Axeman 04-21-2010 10:37 AM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
I just looked over PCLOS's website. I like their upgrade philosophy better than UBUNTU's.
Continuous long term upgrades vs. version replacement.

VirtualSmitty 04-21-2010 12:37 PM

Re: Ubuntu!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 834228)
The new PCLinuxOS 2010 is freakin awesome.

:tu I'm a fan. I always go back and forth between PCLinux and Sabayon on my desktop. I always use some form of 'buntu of my netbook though.


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