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Darrell 05-14-2009 08:39 PM

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I never got to spend my puff money in the casino. [cries]

HawkEye19 05-14-2009 08:39 PM

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Not again..... Any chance of letting that other site finally die off around here?

CBI_2 05-14-2009 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Siebec (Post 382842)
Yep got it here as well, and promptly "marked as spam." :D

:tpd:

Ranger_B 05-14-2009 09:06 PM

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Yep got one as well. Marked as spam and sent a nice reply.

chippewastud79 05-14-2009 09:09 PM

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My spam too :tu

DPD6030 05-14-2009 09:25 PM

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Yup I got it and immediately deleted it. I figured he sent a virus!

DPD6030 05-14-2009 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 383146)
LOL, I'm banned because I told him that I did not consent to receiving a newsletter in the Terms of Service. Jon Caputo can suck my ass.

ROFLMAO :tu

chippewastud79 05-14-2009 09:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joncaputo
Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79
Is there a reason I recieved the newsletter despite never signing up for it? This was the first month this happened and I am not sure why I got it. I thought we had to choose to sign up for the newsletter if we wanted to read it, not that it would be sent to us automatically. Can I anticipate more unwarranted newsletters in the future since there is no place to "unsubscibe"?



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I removed your thread and am responding to you directly.



This was the first newsletter we sent out. If you dont want to receive them in the future please simply click the UNSUBSCRIBE link that is at the bottom of the newsletter.



Let me know if any questions directly - again sorry for the confusion.

Unreal :rolleyes:

M1903A1 05-14-2009 09:32 PM

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Funny thing...I'm still listed as a site supporter even though I haven't contributed anything in a long time! :confused:

DPD6030 05-14-2009 09:33 PM

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Just noticed my account is still active after multiple requests to have it deleted. No such luck.

chippewastud79 05-14-2009 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DPD6030 (Post 383267)
Just noticed my account is still active after multiple requests to have it deleted. No such luck.

There is no point. All he will do is change the screen name. Has done it to many, including Al and others. Best bet is to ask a mod that you can trust do it, if you even want a shot at getting everything deleted. :bh

Whee 05-14-2009 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 383262)
Unreal :rolleyes:

So that whole, "Subscribe to the newsletter" blurb at the top of every page must just be for show.:r

He needs a brute....:hm

Cenookie 05-14-2009 09:41 PM

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Got mine today, designated it as spam.

Opusfxd 05-14-2009 10:16 PM

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Got it and I'll be out of it.

Genetic Defect 05-14-2009 10:20 PM

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:r I didn't get:fu

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Col. Kurtz 05-14-2009 10:37 PM

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Well I thought I was banned for "drama", but I guess that doesn't apply to him spamming us. What a dingleberry.

white_s2k 05-14-2009 10:44 PM

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Wow got the email too even though I'm "banned". Just one more reason to thank the team of 11 for creating CA for all of us. Jon can keep his crappy site, I found my home.

alley00p 05-14-2009 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 383316)
:r I didn't get:fu

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PM me your email address, Perry... I'll send you mine... :r :r



:dance:

Genetic Defect 05-14-2009 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alley00p (Post 383344)
PM me your email address, Perry... I'll send you mine... :r :r



:dance:

its jonthepompusass@blowhard.com

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alley00p 05-14-2009 11:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alley00p (Post 383344)
PM me your email address, Perry... I'll send you mine... :r :r



:dance:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito (Post 383349)

:fu :fu2

Genetic Defect 05-14-2009 11:07 PM

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thanks for the newsletter :wo

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Wolfgang 05-14-2009 11:52 PM

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Spammed and deleted! Time to go get banned............ :c

Wolfgang 05-15-2009 12:15 AM

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Problem solved.

Posted a thread asking where I said it was ok to eye rape me with usless BS.

He must have the "ban" button hot keyed on his keyboard......... Not even a Minute after the post (see attached picture)

What a petty little man.

pnoon 05-15-2009 12:34 AM

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Looks like I'm persona non grata as well.

I'm sooooooo sad.

Wolfgang 05-15-2009 12:59 AM

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Peter PM me your addy Ill turn that frown upsidown :ss

DPD6030 05-15-2009 02:52 AM

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"So I've requested my account be deleted for my own personal reasons many months ago (Oct. 2008). Apparently the moderators and the owner Mr. Caputo don't want to delete my account so they can say they have "X" number of members here. I'm only posting this because I get an email from puff about a newsletter yesterday. What the hell. I ask for my account to be closed and now I get an email? WTF Mr. Caputo. Before you took over and purchased this site this was a place of refuge. Now it's become nothing but a money maker and adverstisements for you. Good for you now please DELETE my account. Seems like you have a ban button on speed dial too as members have been banned and it states for no reason and when the ban is lifter states never. Feel free to ban me if you like but don't spam my email with your useless worthless crap. :fu2"

Posted this on puff. How long will it take before I'm banned! ROFLMAO.

pnoon 05-15-2009 06:38 AM

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I didn't get banned. Instead he just changed my password so I can't log in.
Another example of fine upstanding character. :rolleyes:

GTsetGO 05-15-2009 06:42 AM

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sounds like someone has a little self esteem problem with his site and the way it's run. it's one reason the mustang site that i admin on was created is because the former site didn't like "competition" or mods questioning the way things were run.

oi ve

trader1974 05-15-2009 07:00 AM

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I got it as well.

Whee 05-15-2009 07:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 383562)
I didn't get banned. Instead he just changed my password so I can't log in.
Another example of fine upstanding character. :rolleyes:

I don't know Peter, I think you look pretty in pink...
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...sier/pnoon.jpg

What is drama? Good cut line.:r:r

dunng 05-15-2009 07:59 AM

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They even filtered Asylum... :c I had to use A$ylum to recruit some new MassHoles! :mh

cbsmokin 05-15-2009 08:28 AM

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I got it as well. I did not subscribe. I was going to post something about it as soon as I got it, but I didn't want to start another flame thread.

I have not been banned, but my customer user title does say "RIP Louie"

Some of you IT guys around here are pretty smart, can we jam his spam mail account up somehow? I mean if he can send us unsolicited emails, can't we send some to him? :r

Steve 05-15-2009 08:30 AM

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I got "puffed" as well.

dunng 05-15-2009 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbsmokin (Post 383668)
Some of you IT guys around here are pretty smart, can we jam his spam mail account up somehow? I mean if he can send us unsolicited emails, can't we send some to him? :r

:hm I have 28,000+ waiting in my SPAM folder... :D

You want a replica Rolex? :lv

Skywalker 05-15-2009 09:17 AM

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Huh??? Wha???

Pu... Puff dot wha???

Never heard of it!!!
;)

Steve 05-15-2009 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dunng (Post 383685)
:hm I have 28,000+ waiting in my SPAM folder... :D

You want a replica Rolex? :lv

Humm, forward all to puf...naw, never mind :D

AD720 05-15-2009 09:43 AM

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http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...rce/bus61.shtm


The CAN-SPAM Act: Requirements for Commercial Emailers

The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited ****ography and Marketing Act) establishes requirements for those who send commercial email, spells out penalties for spammers and companies whose products are advertised in spam if they violate the law, and gives consumers the right to ask emailers to stop spamming them.
The law, which became effective January 1, 2004, covers email whose primary purpose is advertising or promoting a commercial product or service, including content on a Web site. A "transactional or relationship message" – email that facilitates an agreed-upon transaction or updates a customer in an existing business relationship – may not contain false or misleading routing information, but otherwise is exempt from most provisions of the CAN-SPAM Act.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency, is authorized to enforce the CAN-SPAM Act. CAN-SPAM also gives the Department of Justice (DOJ) the authority to enforce its criminal sanctions. Other federal and state agencies can enforce the law against organizations under their jurisdiction, and companies that provide Internet access may sue violators, as well.
What the Law Requires

Here's a rundown of the law's main provisions:
  • It bans false or misleading header information. Your email's "From," "To," and routing information – including the originating domain name and email address – must be accurate and identify the person who initiated the email.
  • It prohibits deceptive subject lines. The subject line cannot mislead the recipient about the contents or subject matter of the message.
  • It requires that your email give recipients an opt-out method. You must provide a return email address or another Internet-based response mechanism that allows a recipient to ask you not to send future email messages to that email address, and you must honor the requests. You may create a "menu" of choices to allow a recipient to opt out of certain types of messages, but you must include the option to end any commercial messages from the sender.

    Any opt-out mechanism you offer must be able to process opt-out requests for at least 30 days after you send your commercial email. When you receive an opt-out request, the law gives you 10 business days to stop sending email to the requestor's email address. You cannot help another entity send email to that address, or have another entity send email on your behalf to that address. Finally, it's illegal for you to sell or transfer the email addresses of people who choose not to receive your email, even in the form of a mailing list, unless you transfer the addresses so another entity can comply with the law.
  • It requires that commercial email be identified as an advertisement and include the sender's valid physical postal address. Your message must contain clear and conspicuous notice that the message is an advertisement or solicitation and that the recipient can opt out of receiving more commercial email from you. It also must include your valid physical postal address.
Penalties

Each violation of the above provisions is subject to fines of up to $11,000. Deceptive commercial email also is subject to laws banning false or misleading advertising.
Additional fines are provided for commercial emailers who not only violate the rules described above, but also:
  • "harvest" email addresses from Web sites or Web services that have published a notice prohibiting the transfer of email addresses for the purpose of sending email
  • Generate email addresses using a "dictionary attack" – combining names, letters, or numbers into multiple permutations
  • Use scripts or other automated ways to register for multiple email or user accounts to send commercial email
  • Relay emails through a computer or network without permission – for example, by taking advantage of open relays or open proxies without authorization.
The law allows the DOJ to seek criminal penalties, including imprisonment, for commercial emailers who do – or conspire to:
  • Use another computer without authorization and send commercial email from or through it
  • Use a computer to relay or retransmit multiple commercial email messages to deceive or mislead recipients or an Internet access service about the origin of the message
  • Falsify header information in multiple email messages and initiate the transmission of such messages
  • Register for multiple email accounts or domain names using information that falsifies the identity of the actual registrant
  • Falsely represent themselves as owners of multiple Internet Protocol addresses that are used to send commercial email messages.
Additional Rules

The FTC will issue additional rules under the CAN-SPAM Act involving the required labeling of sexually explicit commercial email and the criteria for determining "the primary purpose" of a commercial email. Look for the rule covering the labeling of sexually explicit material in April 2004; "the primary purpose" rulemaking will be complete by the end of 2004. The Act also instructs the FTC to report to Congress in summer 2004 on a National Do Not E-Mail Registry, and issue reports in the next two years on the labeling of all commercial email, the creation of a "bounty system" to promote enforcement of the law, and the effectiveness and enforcement of the CAN-SPAM Act.
See the FTC Web site at www.ftc.gov/spam for updates on implementation of the CAN-SPAM Act.
The FTC maintains a consumer complaint database of violations of the laws that the FTC enforces. Consumers can submit complaints online at www.ftc.gov and forward unwanted commercial email to the FTC at spam@uce.gov.
For More Information

The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair practices in the marketplace and to provide information to businesses to help them comply with the law. To file a complaint or to get free information on consumer issues, visit ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.
Your Opportunity to Comment

The National Small Business Ombudsman and 10 Regional Fairness Boards collect comments from small businesses about federal compliance and enforcement activities. Each year, the Ombudsman evaluates the conduct of these activities and rates each agency's responsiveness to small businesses. Small businesses can comment to the Ombudsman without fear of reprisal. To comment, call toll-free 1-888-REGFAIR (1-888-734-3247) or go to www.sba.gov/ombudsman.

kaelaria 05-15-2009 10:03 AM

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Got it, unsubscribed immediately. I have been on the MU list since my first few posts, before I knew anything about what had gone on with the cigar forums. A-holes.

Col. Kurtz 05-15-2009 11:05 AM

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Why should I have to give that asshat my first and last name to unsubscribe to something I didn't agree to?

I can't go in and edit my e-mail due to my "drama banning".

I reiterate my disagreement with him that I have no valid contract with him because I never agreed to his terms or rules.

I hate that sob so much!

Don Fernando 05-15-2009 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GolfNut (Post 382845)
Same here. I promptly unsubscribed from all future mailings. Actually hated to go there to even do that. Made me feel unclean.

:tpd:

ahc4353 05-15-2009 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AD720 (Post 383739)
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...rce/bus61.shtm


The CAN-SPAM Act: Requirements for Commercial Emailers

The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited ****ography and Marketing Act) ............

Go Andrew :dance: Go Andrew :dance: Go Andrew :dance:

St. Lou Stu 05-15-2009 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly (Post 383063)
Should HAVE logged into your account.......I detest slimy web idiots with poor grammer!

MCS

Oh Scott. You is funny.

AD720 05-15-2009 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahc4353 (Post 383861)
Go Andrew :dance: Go Andrew :dance: Go Andrew :dance:

:r Go FTC, actually.

If you do not want to recieve email from a commercial entity you shouldn't have to, and the law is on your side. I just wanted everyone to be aware of that. :tu

kydsid 05-15-2009 12:50 PM

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I got it unsubscribed then went on and changed my email address to noway at hozay.com.

icehog3 05-15-2009 05:02 PM

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Puck Fuff.

sodomanaz 05-15-2009 05:04 PM

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lol puff. Seriously, what a name to pick for a site.

camiller 05-18-2009 02:31 PM

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Got it, unsubscribed, then found this place.

Since I always sign up for web things using a spam gourmet address I just went and deactivated that address so any future unsolicited email simply goes into the bit bucket.

SteveDMatt 05-25-2009 05:39 AM

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Anyone know a trustworthy mod over there who I could ask to delete my whole identity?

I've already deleted everything I can about me, but not being able to completely remove myself bothers me.

sodomanaz 05-25-2009 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDMatt (Post 396445)
Anyone know a trustworthy mod over there who I could ask to delete my whole identity?

I've already deleted everything I can about me, but not being able to completely remove myself bothers me.

That's the difficult part that may have been included in the original TOS from whatever site you were from. A lot of the generic TOS forms state that anything posted on the forum becomes property of the forum owner. Of course a TOS means nothing unless a court says it does and is deemed reasonable... Though in my non-lawyer opinion, I don't think it is unreasonable as the site owners did sell the whole bit, including content.
:2

SteveDMatt 05-25-2009 07:19 AM

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Makes sense....guess I just have to get banned then.:dance:


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