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I heard cigar smoke is an effective preventative measure.
We all smoke and nobody gets it.
All I need is a control who doesn't smoke to lick a pig to see if, in fact, they do get it.

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Swine Flu is a good name for a band.

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Better than H1N1 Mexican Pig FLu:hf

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According to the numbers that I saw out of Mexico, it has 5-7.5% mortality. However, at this point, the data are suspect, as you point out.

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All I can say....

DON'T DO THIS!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YzBo7Kz5y1...1600/Swine.jpg

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:rolleyes: you can't catch it tonguing pigs

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I know, I know, I just love this pic of you Per. :r:r

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I'm not blonde

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He wasn't talking about the blonde, I think...
:lv

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novel flu II electricbugaloo

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your first mistake :tu

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I don't think this has been posted yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29...flu/index.html

That's scary. :(

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FTFA: 7 deaths out of 2700 known cases = .26% mortality.
edit also 150 suspected deaths = 5-6%

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if someone dies and it isnt related to this yet they say it is, did the tree really fall?

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You are one deep thinker, Perry. :)

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I'ma deep somthin'

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Alright, when Swine Flu is the lead stroy on Sportscenter, something must be done!!

Don't panic, but we are cancelling all HS athletic competitions for the next two weeks. But don't panic. Nothing to see here.:rolleyes:

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Great, and I had front row tickets to the Girls' Volleyball Tournament. :mad:

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Only in Texas, so far. You know how those Texans are.:r

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now you have nothing to look up to

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Gotta love Volleyball
http://71.136.4.109/shared/beach-vol...l-08140813.jpg

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Nice way to lighten things up :dr

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Latest update from WHO:

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_29/en/index.html

91 reported cases in the U.S. and 1 death, the 22 month old child from Mexico.

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Here's the latest from my work:

New York City Epidemiologic Update
• Diagnostic testing at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has now confirmed 49 cases of Swine-Origin Influenza A (H1N1) (S-OIV) in New York City residents. All confirmed cases to date are epidemiologically linked to the outbreak among students and staff at the St. Francis Preparatory High School in Queens (n=47) or have an epidemiologic link to Mexico (n=2). Seven probable cases are currently under investigation.
o A probable case in Suffolk County does not have any known links to the St. Francis outbreak or Mexico suggesting likely exposure in a community setting.
o To date, illness in the United States and in New York City continues to be no more severe than usual seasonal influenza, with the overwhelming majority of diagnosed patients having had mild illness.
o The DOHMH is conducting active surveillance for severe febrile unexplained respiratory illness in all NYC hospitals, and to date has identified only two patients who have been hospitalized in New York City with probable or confirmed swine influenza. One of these patients has been discharged and the other is improving.
o DOHMH investigation of the S-OIV outbreak at St. Francis Preparatory High School:
o Among the 47 confirmed cases epidemiologically linked to St. Francis Preparatory High School, 44 have been interviewed. The median age w as 16 years (range 15-22). The most frequently reported symptoms included cough (43, 98%), subjective fever (41, 93%), fatigue (39, 89%), headache (37, 84%), chills (36, 82%), sore throat (36, 82%), runny nose (35, 80%), and muscle aches (35 (80%). Nausea, diarrhea, abdominal pain, shortness of breath and joint pain were also reported, but less frequently. At the time of the interview 37 (84%) reported that their symptoms were stable or improving and 4 (9%) reported complete resolution of symptoms. Only one reported having been hospitalized briefly, for syncope.
o An on-line survey of all students (N=2686) and staff (N=228) at the school is ongoing. Preliminary results from the on-line school survey and passive surveillance indicate widespread mild illness with hundreds of students and many staff reporting symptoms which meet the case definition for ILI with illness onset peaking on April 23rd and declining sharply thereafter. Secondary transmission to household con tacts was reported in approximately 8% of households responding to the survey.
o Given the evolving epidemiology of this outbreak in NYC and elsewhere, the number of NYC cases is expected to increase in the coming days and it is likely we will start to see evidence of community transmission in NYC unrelated to the high school outbreak. Updated case numbers and guidance will be issued in subsequent alerts.
• Routine NYC emergency department syndromic surveillance shows that fever and influenza-related emergency room visits began to increase on April 25, 2009, have increased on a daily basis, and have been higher than in past seasons. The increase is most dramatic among persons aged 18-59 years. It is unknown at this time whether the increase is due to changes in care-seeking behavior among persons with influenza-like illness or to an actual increase in influenza-like illness in the community.

US and Global Epidemiologic Update
• As of 3 pm on 4/29/2009, 9 1 cases have been confirmed in 14 states across the US, including one death in a 23 month old Texas child with an underlying high risk medical condition.
• Confirmed cases of S-OIV have been reported from an increasing number of countries across the globe. Today the World Health Organization (WHO) elevated the pandemic influenza alert level to 5, indicating that widespread human infection is occurring and a pandemic is imminent. The WHO uses a 6 point scale to assess the pandemic threat level.

Updated Antiviral Treatment and Prophylaxis Guidance
• The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an emergency use authorization for oseltamivir and zanamivir, authorizing the use of oseltamivir for treatment and prophylaxis of patients less than one year of age. Dosage recommendations for children less than 1 year of age are available at http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/childrentreatment.htm. FDA has also authorized the use of both oseltamivir and zanamivir f or use at later time points (i.e., for patients with severe disease who have been symptomatic for more than 2 days).
• Treatment and prophylaxis: Oseltamivir stocks in some pharmacies are reportedly low, although the manufacturer reports adequate supplies, and local stocks are expected to increase. Clinicians are asked to exercise prudent judgment in prescribing oseltamivir for patients with mild ILI who do not have underlying medical conditions. Prescribing oseltamivir for purposes of personal stockpiles is strongly discouraged.

Home Management of Persons with Suspected, Probable or Confirmed S-OIV (see home isolation guidance, attached)
• Persons with suspected, probable or confirmed S-OIV continue to be advised to stay home for 7 days after symptom onset or 24-48 hours after symptom resolution, whichever is longer. Patients should cover their mouths and noses with a tissue or handkerchief when coughing or sneezing, and should wash their hands with soap and water frequently.
• We recommend that home care for persons with mild ILI be given by one primary caregiver if possible, and that the patient should be separated to the extent possible from other members of the household, preferably in a separate bedroom. The caregiver should wear a mask, either surgical or N95, when close contact with the ill person is unavoidable. The ill person should also wear a surgical mask when close contact with other individuals in the home is unavoidable.


Surveillance and Reporting
• We continue to ask NYC providers to report hospitalized patients with severe, unexplained febrile, respiratory illness to the Provider Access Line at 1-866-NYC-DOH1 (1-866-692-3641). Providers should continue to test only patients with severe febrile respiratory illness for influenza A, using a commercially available rapid test, PCR or immunofluorescence test (e.g., DFA or IFA).
• In order to ensure that sufficient laboratory reso urces are available, testing at the Public Health Laboratory will only be approved for severe cases that are first reported to DOHMH via the Provider Access Line. DOHMH staff will evaluate the case and advise whether testing for S-OIV at the Public Health Laboratory is indicated. DOHMH will facilitate specimen transport and testing for cases when testing is indicated.
• The New York City case definitions for suspected, probable or confirmed cases are unchanged.

Guidelines for management of patients with mild influenza-like illness in New York City and infection control are unchanged. Please see the Health Department’s website at www.nyc.gov/health for more information on its Swine Flu page, including educational materials for patients on respiratory and hand hygiene and STOP triage posters for waiting areas in clinics and emergency departments.

The CDC is updating guidance on its website daily. Please see www.cdc.gov/swineflu for updated national rec ommendations.

To contact the Health Department, including to report suspected cases of swine influenza in hospitalized patients and arrange for specimen testing, please call the Provider Access Line at 866-NYC-DOH1. This number is also available for questions or consultations by providers.

As always, we appreciate the cooperation of the medical community in New York City and will update you with further information when it becomes available.

Sincerely,

The Swine Influenza Investigation Team
New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

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:r:r:r

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:hm


Uh-oh! :hn

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:r:r:r:r


Someone with an extra $10 and a great sense of humor.

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:r:r:r

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I need the Cliff Notes version. ;)

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Holy Moley, talk about long posts. And I thought I was text-based bag of wind.

I don't think I am going to even begin to throw my hat in on this one.

Wash hands
Bleach door handles
Mask coughers
Cough into sleeve
Gargle with tap water if someone coughs/sneezes near you
Don't put dirty hands on face

That will keep you from getting sick

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Gargle with tap water?

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Or bottled water.

Deeper gargle if you can't "taste" the water (eg salt water). Your brain will stronger defend your airway (unconscious reflexes) the more intense the sensation of stuff in your throat (all jokes aside).

You want to wash the mucosa with water so that you can spit out any viral particles that land on the lining of the upper airways, before the virus has a chance to penetrate the tissue.

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F* it. I'm smoking my aged stock now.

If I'm still alive in two weeks, well hell. Guess I'll have to get more and remind the Mrs. how lucky we are to be alive.

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That works too

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Dale, I always liked the way you thought. :tu

Lemmy would do the same as well, i'll bet! :)

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Lemmy would write a song about it (or has).:D

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The virus infected Lemmy and then promptly died. The pig also died even though he was in Mexico and Lemmy was in Wales. Medical marvel to be honest. It's a little known fact but Lemmy's blood is entirely resistant to disease of any kind. Have you ever heard of a bottle of Jack Daniel's developing hay fever? Same principle.

Lemmy mocks the mortal weakness of our flesh whilst sleeping with all our women. He's a cruel, but fair god.

And I look for any excuse to break open the good boxes. :tu

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And the Legend grows.....

The Legend of Lemmy, I mean....not the Legend on Internet boxes. :)

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Lemmy could almost be a match for you, Tom...

Almost... ;)

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A touching verse.... :D

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...-flu-pooh1.jpg

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Just adding some first-hand experience from Mexico.

The cruises have stopped coming and starting tomorrow they will begin evacuating guests from hotels.

I have to think this is overkill but better safe than sorry I suppose.

I just got off the ferry in Playa qand they are handing out masks to those who want one.

Didn't take one - too hard to smoke a cigar with that thing on.

Going to wash my hands again...

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This "pandemic" is 100% being caused by the media.

This is ridiculous.

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Head for the desserted islands. At least the kids in Texas get 10 days outta school.

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:tpd:
I know I seem like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat by saying this, but it's all too familiar:

Y2K anyone?

Terrify the masses with a potential medical apocalypse. When people are frightened, they consume. What are the vast majority of commercials that air during the "news"? Pharmaceuticals and food...

Just sayin....

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Ridiculous is correct. This girl on the train started coughing and everyone stared at her. So I started telling my gf (aloud) "don't know why they are so worried about her, I have the swine flu. :cb

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The crazy thing about this all is in Egypt. They have no reported cases of H1N1 virus yet they decided to slaughter all their pigs (over 300,000).

That is a lot wasted bacon =(

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Just talked to my ex about this. she is the infection control nurse for one of the local hospitals,s o to say she's been busy is an understatement.

she said the main reason for concern, is this has hit at the end of the "normal" flu season. Devoloping a vaccine normally takes 5 months, which would put the date in October, which is considered the start of the flu season.

If a vaccine is not developed timely, NEXT flu season is when a lot of the damage could happen. In her field, they are making comparisons to the 1918 flu epidiemic, so it's not entirely media generated panic. There is a sense of urgency in the medical field.


And now, for a little distraction...
http://denofgeek.com/movies/242804/1...outbreaks.html

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I am acquainted with the man in this CNN video, Dr. Mike Osterholm. He's no dummy. While he is not yeling "pandemic," he seems to be cautiously waiting for more information.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/hea...ef=videosearch