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skibumdc

10-24-2008 07:59 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by Pyro (Post 32199)

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW! :dr

I thoguht this might happen as well....but then a good friend N2Advnture made me realize that the Cuban Gov't would never allow it.

They would prefer all the Cuban tobacco only be used in Puros. Makes their product more desirable. And since the Communist govt rules all, independent farmers don't have the capitalist right to sell to whomever they wish.

Wolfgang

10-24-2008 08:26 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

I vote NO. If the embargo was lifted every mook would be scrambling over eachother to get the Cuban Cigars, driving up the price, and i personally think there will be more counterfeits if that happened. Heve you looked at the lables of say Montecristo, or Rafiel Gonzolez? Any printer can make those. Clearly we are getting CC's from somwhwere already, at some good low prices too, why change that?

theycallmedan'lboone

10-24-2008 08:32 AM

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so, oil in Cuba... why don't we just take it.

kaisersozei

10-24-2008 08:36 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by taltos (Post 32132)

I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.

:tpd:

fsjonsey

10-24-2008 08:59 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by taltos (Post 32132)

I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.

:tpd::tpd::tpd:

FriskyDingo

10-24-2008 09:08 AM

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I voted Yes. Yea, the price of cigars would go through the roof and I wouldn't see any for a while, but after things settle down I think everything would be fine and would love to have the ability to go to a B&M and buy a box or buy from an online retailer to purchase some without fear of having them yanked by Customs. They were common and inexpensive at one point and they could be again.

Plus, if trade was open with Cuba, I think both the US and Cuba would prosper monetarily. Cuba is said to have the worlds best mechanics since they can't get parts for their american cars and still find a way to make them run. :D

Ken	10-24-2008 10:40 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by taltos (Post 32132)

I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.

Sad that you were the first to mention 'people'. I'm actully of the mind that if things opened up between Cuban & U.S. then changes would come and a lot of deep wounds would start to heal.

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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends.

Nothing to do with the embargo, it's Cuban gov controlled.

RottenZombie

10-24-2008 10:47 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

I vote for yes,End the embargo. Maby they will import more Cubans like these.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...bansadammm.jpg

BC-Axeman

10-24-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

I can't answer just yes or no to this question.
Yes, if Cuba were to do some things first...
No if things are just the way they are now.

BC-Axeman

10-24-2008 11:11 AM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 32327)

so, oil in Cuba... why don't we just take it.

The Chinese already have it. It was found in similar waters to where we won't drill.:mad:

icantbejon

10-24-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wrench turner 85 (Post 31696)

i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

I agree with you here. It's simple supply/demand economics. They will produce as much as they can in a quality fashion, but the supply will never keep up with the demand making the cigars you normally buy super expensive.

ChicagoWhiteSox

10-24-2008 04:27 PM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by RottenZombie (Post 32621)

I vote for yes,End the embargo. Maby they will import more Cubans like these.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...bansadammm.jpg

in that case, i will vote YES:r

taltos

10-24-2008 04:54 PM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

Kind of too bad that people value a cigar more than the valid interests of people and companies who were hurt by Castro and his revolution when he nationalized everything. Ask the Fuente family and others how much the revolution helped them. Ask the Cuban refugees in Miami how Castro was good for them. I have probably gone too far but if cigars are valued over people, I should not belong to a cigar forum.

macpappy

10-24-2008 06:16 PM

Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters

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Originally Posted by taltos (Post 33254)

you make some very valid points.
I think I know how Carlos would vote on this too

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