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troutbreath 08-21-2009 10:02 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Not to hijack, but . . .


Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?

joed 08-21-2009 10:09 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newcigarz (Post 517145)
I would get some DampRid. I use it in my Aristocrat sometimes to bring the humidity down, here is S. Florida. Bob Staebell actually recommended it.

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I agree that I would try this stuff.

The beads won't do a damn thing to lower the humidity. They never have and never will. It's a mistake to rely on them when the conditions are as you describe.

Use the Damp Rid to lower it and then the beads can help bring it back to where it should be.

joed 08-21-2009 10:10 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by troutbreath (Post 517396)
Not to hijack, but . . .


Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?
probably because the tobacco was more moist when it was rolled.

GreekGodX 08-21-2009 11:02 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joed (Post 517401)
I agree that I would try this stuff.

The beads won't do a damn thing to lower the humidity. They never have and never will. It's a mistake to rely on them when the conditions are as you describe.

Use the Damp Rid to lower it and then the beads can help bring it back to where it should be.
I was under the impression that shilala bead's absorbed and released humidity.. Maybe you aren't using enough beads for your humi?

shilala 08-21-2009 11:09 AM
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My outside humidor was up to about 70%.
I stuck the whole thing in the fridge, propped open the lid, and dried it out in a few days.
It's settled right in at 64%.
The RH in the fridge is about 40%.
When I took it out, I immediately closed it so there would be no condensation on the sticks. The outside was cold also, and I just wiped the water off of her as she warmed up from the outside in.
If the humi doesn't seal, and it sounds as if it doesn't at all, you can fix it using some foam and a clasp. Either that, or throw it away and use a rubbermaid container. :tu

shilala 08-21-2009 11:16 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 517458)
I was under the impression that shilala bead's absorbed and released humidity.. Maybe you aren't using enough beads for your humi?
They do. They'll only do it in a controlled, sealed environment.
A pound of beads can't regulate the RH of the entire state of Texas. :)
You simply can't compensate for a leaking humidor, no matter how many beads, hydras or damprid you use.
Humidors are to be AIR TIGHT. Anything else isn't a humidor, it's just called a "problem".
Ziplock bags are a better solution than a humidor that leaks.
It's not hard to fix a leaky humidor. I just reworked a couple for longknocker last week. I fixed a couple for sofaman, too.
It's not difficult, and it's not expensive. :tu

md4958 08-21-2009 11:31 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
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Originally Posted by BUCASmoker (Post 516791)
no air conditioning, and i live in an old victorian building that doesn't have windows. only a few doors that open up. the rest are french doors that are painted shut.
I have a very easy solution for you my friend, move to a place with A/C :r:r



try what the fellas are telling ya to get the humidity down, and then go to your local B&M and look in the sticks of empty boxes for the cedar blocks. Ask if you can buy just those (they might just give them to ya)... they will help soak up a little humidity and help with the fluctuations

GreekGodX 08-21-2009 11:40 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 517476)
They do. They'll only do it in a controlled, sealed environment.
A pound of beads can't regulate the RH of the entire state of Texas. :)
You simply can't compensate for a leaking humidor, no matter how many beads, hydras or damprid you use.
Humidors are to be AIR TIGHT. Anything else isn't a humidor, it's just called a "problem".
Ziplock bags are a better solution than a humidor that leaks.
It's not hard to fix a leaky humidor. I just reworked a couple for longknocker last week. I fixed a couple for sofaman, too.
It's not difficult, and it's not expensive. :tu
So it seems the problem is solved. Brotha needs to fix the humi :tu :banger

shilala 08-21-2009 12:53 PM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 517501)
So it seems the problem is solved. Brotha needs to fix the humi :tu :banger
That's what it takes. :)
Or go to Wally and buy a 2 gallon rubbermaid for 10 bucks. They work great. :tu

BUCASmoker 08-21-2009 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bax (Post 517134)
Are you using the analog hygro by any chance? If you are dump it and get a digital. Those dial gauges are almost worthless.
digital. did a salt test, and it was 100% right on

BUCASmoker 08-21-2009 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 517589)
That's what it takes. :)
Or go to Wally and buy a 2 gallon rubbermaid for 10 bucks. They work great. :tu
Might have to do that.

Look for a "WTS - Firewood" in the next few days :mad:

Bax 08-21-2009 01:22 PM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by troutbreath (Post 517396)
Not to hijack, but . . .


Why do Anejo's mold more easily than other cigars wrapped in cedar?
Most belive it's the extra sugar in the wrapper. They're aged in old whiskey barrels and as a result they get mold under the sleeve very easily. Even in ideal conditions.

shilala 08-21-2009 02:55 PM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BUCASmoker (Post 517610)
Might have to do that.

Look for a "WTS - Firewood" in the next few days :mad:
Seriously. You're screwing up your smokes. They'd be better of sitting on the kitchen table.
If you wanna send your humi to me, I'll fix it. :tu

BUCASmoker 08-22-2009 08:22 PM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
I put the smokes in 2 gallon size freezer bags, with a bag of beads in each... still at 77% after 24 hours... what the heck is going on?

shilala 08-22-2009 09:01 PM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BUCASmoker (Post 519360)
I put the smokes in 2 gallon size freezer bags, with a bag of beads in each... still at 77% after 24 hours... what the heck is going on?
The beads assumed the RH from the leaky humi. You have to readjust them. Read the directions, brother. :tu

beamish 08-23-2009 08:03 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
get a cooler, and use some ice packs to lower the humidity inside it..:2

BUCASmoker 08-23-2009 09:17 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 519380)
The beads assumed the RH from the leaky humi. You have to readjust them. Read the directions, brother. :tu
I'll put them in the freezer this evening and try to get them lower. Buying a cooler this afternoon

shilala 08-23-2009 11:06 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BUCASmoker (Post 519749)
I'll put them in the freezer this evening and try to get them lower. Buying a cooler this afternoon
Put them in the fridge right now, and they'll probably be down low enough to use when you get your cooler. The fridge will dry them out pretty good.
THE MOMENT you take them out of the firdge you have to put them in a ziplock and suck the air out, or water will condense on them and you'll have defeated your purpose.
It will take multiple, multiple adjustments to get those soggy cigars dried out. It's not going to take a couple days, it's gonna take weeks or months.
It didn't take two days to get them soggy, ya know? :)

tchariya 08-23-2009 11:13 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BUCASmoker (Post 516791)
no air conditioning, and i live in an old victorian building that doesn't have windows. only a few doors that open up. the rest are french doors that are painted shut.

After you dry out your beads and re-prep them:

Get a thick trash bag (drawstring type) and cover your humidor and throw the humidor in the back of the closet.

BUCASmoker 08-23-2009 11:13 AM
Re: MOLD!!! Help!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 519840)
Put them in the fridge right now, and they'll probably be down low enough to use when you get your cooler. The fridge will dry them out pretty good.
THE MOMENT you take them out of the firdge you have to put them in a ziplock and suck the air out, or water will condense on them and you'll have defeated your purpose.
It will take multiple, multiple adjustments to get those soggy cigars dried out. It's not going to take a couple days, it's gonna take weeks or months.
It didn't take two days to get them soggy, ya know? :)
Most of the cigars arent soggy... just a few here and there.


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