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CigarDood 01-27-2009 06:03 AM

Re: It's happening
 
Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

DBall 01-27-2009 06:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarDood (Post 194759)
Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

I don't think that's anything relevant to here... the team of 11 are the only mods and I'm pretty confident that they know what they are doing. Hell... more posts at poof have been closed/deleted in the last month than in the prior year and a half the 11 were running the show over there.

SeanGAR 01-27-2009 06:29 AM

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Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
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.
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I don't own a brown shirt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 194774)
I don't think that's anything relevant to here...

Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

Blueface 01-27-2009 06:31 AM

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WOW!!!
Ran off to see my favorite band, The Eagles, and I can't believe all that took place in between.

Dave and Tom banned.
I wonder if my access still works but won't dare go there.
Erased the link.

Hey, I got 4 points for posting a thread "No Drama/No Bashing" and it only contained freaking crickets.:r:r:r

After my response to the PM, can't imagine me being able to log back on at all.

poker 01-27-2009 06:47 AM

Re: It's happening
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CigarDood (Post 194759)
Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

No worries. We have never really been heavy handed with moderating boards (unless we banned you before LOL). :r

DBall 01-27-2009 06:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 194793)

Dave and Tom banned.


Not banned, but had their password scrambled (also their emails changed so they can't reset the passwords, then lied to about it)... easily one of the most cowardly things I have seen done on cigar boards. Seriously, if you're going to ban someone, why not just be a man and ban them?

This speaks volumes of the new regime over there.

Again, things like this never happened under the 11 (and I'd feel safe saying they never would).

taltos 01-27-2009 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 194088)
When the good lord was passing out brains, I have no clue where JC was.

He thought that the good lord said train so jc was trying to turn a profit selling bus tickets.:fl

Da Klugs 01-27-2009 07:13 AM

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Smart? Nah... well maybe the other 10. The pertinent difference is that we are products of the culture, got mentored by those that came before us, served as volunteers to something we loved, and have those burdens to balance against the desires we all get as humans to lash out when things get dicey. Probably the most important distinction is.. we came for the cigars, stayed for the friendships.

What we are seeing there is pretty straightforward. The reason for rules is to strike a balance between individual freedom of speech and the greater good of the community. When it's a community with reasonable rules designed to serve the community, that everyone can understand, if not agree with, the implementation and enforcement of the rules is mostly done by the members of the community. When it's a one man for profit show and the rules become fluid, there is no firm footing or moral ground to stand on and you end up with a business vs a community. Puffer fish? How about Customers?

As is on display in this situation, no one owns this community. The URL that houses it is of minor importance and as you all have demonstrated, is easily replaced for a pittance financially if those who serve it administratively get to full of them(our)selves.

floydpink 01-27-2009 07:56 AM

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For some reason, I see little Jonnie Capoots running around sticking his thumb in the leak and trying in a panic to patch the next one that is springing up next to it, all the while telling his admiring wife that he has it under control.:r

BC-Axeman 01-27-2009 08:03 AM

Re: It's happening
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 194783)
Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
.
.
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I don't own a brown shirt.



Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

Does khaki count?:ss

taltos 01-27-2009 08:04 AM

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I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.:ss

Blueface 01-27-2009 08:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 194961)
I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.:ss

I know one of those advertisers personally.
He has been warned.

chippewastud79 01-27-2009 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface (Post 195006)
I know one of those advertisers personally.
He has been warned.

Now if we can just warn the other 4308274 advertisers he has paying for the site. :hm

King James 01-27-2009 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79 (Post 195013)
Now if we can just warn the other 4308274 advertisers he has paying for the site. :hm

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals :rolleyes:

replicant_argent 01-27-2009 09:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 195070)
Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals :rolleyes:

You live in Cheeseland, you should be able to get it for cost.
:rolleyes:

Scottw 01-27-2009 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 195070)
Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals :rolleyes:


:r:r:r:r the cheese guys, that's great!

Asher 01-27-2009 09:06 AM

Re: It's happening
 
Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama

Date the ban will be lifted: Never
"

Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

icehog3 01-27-2009 09:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Asher (Post 195140)
Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama

Date the ban will be lifted: Never
"

Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

No worries, I am guessing RG will be reset within the next few weeks.

King James 01-27-2009 09:10 AM

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Well apparently anything anybody does that goes against the past/present/future feelings, thoughts, ideas, plans of Jon Caputo gets filed away as drama and will likely result in you being banned.

HOWEVER, if you would like to stay..... all you must do is kiss his ass in a few threads and express your support for him publicly...heck, maybe you can even become a future mod if you ass kiss enough

Stay classy

http://www.hereinreality.com/funnyst.../brownnose.jpg

taltos 01-27-2009 09:12 AM

Re: It's happening
 
I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

pnoon 01-27-2009 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 195165)
I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

icehog3 01-27-2009 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 195158)

Is that Dick, Jim?

Because Dick Knows. :)

Blueface 01-27-2009 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 195158)
Well apparently anything anybody does that goes against the past/present/future feelings, thoughts, ideas, plans of Jon Caputo gets filed away as drama and will likely result in you being banned.

HOWEVER, if you would like to stay..... all you must do is kiss his ass in a few threads and express your support for him publicly...heck, maybe you can even become a future mod if you ass kiss enough

Stay classy

http://www.hereinreality.com/funnyst.../brownnose.jpg

:r:r:r

Those methods seem so reminiscent of 1959 in Cuba.:D

I just wonder how many new posts there will be if everyone is banned at the rate they are going.

My curiosity makes me wonder if I got banned after my PM response to that new mod after receiving my four points for posting crickets.

Someone let me know.

Blueface 01-27-2009 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 195165)
I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 195168)
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Has happened Peter.
One member asked for it, he go it.

taltos 01-27-2009 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 195168)
:confused: :confused: :confused:

By little Caesar jc. Sorry for the confusion.

piperman 01-27-2009 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 195153)
No worries, I am guessing RG will be reset within the next few weeks.

Ring Gauge? I don't think anyone looks at that anymore over there all the cool kids are gone.

pnoon 01-27-2009 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 195165)
I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon (Post 195168)
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by taltos (Post 195184)
By little Caesar jc. Sorry for the confusion.

I was :confused: by your post.

I thought you meant you would be banned from here for posts made here.
Upon reflection, I see you meant banned from pvff for posts made at CA.

King James 01-27-2009 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by piperman (Post 195187)
Ring Gauge? I don't think anyone looks at that anymore over there all the cool kids are gone.

oh if anything people care even more.... should see how some react to a ding.... like the loss of RG marks the end of the world.

Post count and RG are ALL that matters.... duhhhh!

replicant_argent 01-27-2009 09:23 AM

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http://atf.dillanweems.com/pics/stiles.jpg

rizzle 01-27-2009 09:27 AM

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http://www.austinchronicle.com/binar...sbusiness2.jpg

King James 01-27-2009 09:36 AM

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Oh I would not be surprised that if Jon doesn't do enough reading here himself that he has little ass kissing minions who report back to him about stuff said both here and there. Maybe Jon even throws 'em a treat and says "good boy" (Poof Mods this is not describing you guys)

Infact, I was informed my asylum joke I put in the jokes thread over there was reported by members.... I can only guess which members those were :rolleyes:

piperman 01-27-2009 09:45 AM

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Hmm snitches, I guess I just went through a time warp to junior high.

rizzle 01-27-2009 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by No1der (Post 194038)
Obviously if I were going to do it I wouldn't first announce it here. Please, the good lord gave us all brain cells, use yours.

Cheers,
Rob

Sorry for misinterpreting your innerweb bravado. Maybe you have more brain cells than I give you credit for.

Cheers,
Brain Cell Non User

Andyman 01-27-2009 09:49 AM

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Not possible..
Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzle (Post 195269)
Maybe you have more brain cells than I give you credit for.


replicant_argent 01-27-2009 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyman (Post 195277)
Not possible..

Snitch...



:rolleyes:;):r:r:r

Andyman 01-27-2009 10:04 AM

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Oh you just didn't! :bx
Quote:

Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 195304)
Snitch...



:rolleyes:;):rr:r


Lucky_Hippo 01-27-2009 10:05 AM

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Looks like the DRAMA forum was moved underground so only Mods and Admin can read it after a suggestion about negative threads not looking so hot to new members.

hmmmm... :hm

Maybe they should move John's comments undergound too. They were way more offensive than anything else I've read over there.


What can I say, the guys a weiner!

piperman 01-27-2009 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky_Hippo (Post 195315)
Looks like the DRAMA forum was moved underground so only Mods and Admin can read it after a suggestion about negative threads not looking so hot to new members.

hmmmm... :hm

Maybe they should move John's comments undergound too. They were way more offensive than anything else I've read over there.


What can I say, the guys a weiner!

I posted in there and said now hiding threads that could be devastating. They don't listen.

rizzle 01-27-2009 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyman (Post 195277)
Not possible..

Works for me...

LasciviousXXX 01-27-2009 10:48 AM

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What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

JKim 01-27-2009 10:50 AM

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sad news indeed Dustin.... Hey how long would it take you to ask a question in every thread? Pretty soon there will only be one forum populated with any threads.

Blueface 01-27-2009 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JKim (Post 195430)
sad news indeed Dustin.... Hey how long would it take you to ask a question in every thread? Pretty soon there will only be one forum populated with any threads.

:r
Well, if one gets banned per post, we need to figure out how many threads and how many volunteers to keep it going.:r

Don't count on me. I have 4 points.:r

King James 01-27-2009 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX (Post 195422)
What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

any one save that thread on their computer?

SeanGAR 01-27-2009 11:05 AM

Re: It's happening
 
Club Stogie is dead, nothing remains, what is over there is a **** board operated by a **** head internet bully who has a Napoleon complex, and as noted earlier, µPS.

I feel bad leaving the 'how long will my clutch last' contest ... that's my sole thought turning my back and never going there again.

But I'm not interested in putting up with that ******* **** ....**** 'em.

This is our new home and a darned good one at that.

The Professor 01-27-2009 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by King James (Post 195436)
any one save that thread on their computer?

negative ... and it's not in the "wayback machine" either. have any of the mods invited Rob here? perhaps he would find this place in the spirit of the CS he helped start. :2

DBall 01-27-2009 11:09 AM

Re: It's happening
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX (Post 195422)
What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

True, but there's nothing left there even vaguely resembling what CS was. It's now nothing more than a dictatorship run by a man (or men) with an iron fist and no tolerance for differing opinions.

The Professor 01-27-2009 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 195477)
Club Stogie is dead, nothing remains, what is over there is a **** board operated by a **** head internet bully who has a Napoleon complex, and as noted earlier, µPS.

I feel bad leaving the 'how long will my clutch last' contest ... that's my sole thought turning my back and never going there again.

But I'm not interested in putting up with that ******* **** ....**** 'em.

This is our new home and a darned good one at that.

Don't hold back, Sean. ;)

Seriously, though, I knew the last nail was hammered into the coffin when I read the new mission statement over there. Though revised since, the very fact that it made it up on the web at all spoke volumes about the direction JC was taking things. I shed a single tear and stopped because I knew I had a new home here in the Asylum.

What really makes me sad, though, is that there are some "old timers" who were around on CS for a VERY long time and it's all gone. That's just sh!tty.

Blueface 01-27-2009 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DBall (Post 195489)
no tolerance for differing opinions.

Not true at all Dan.
You can in fact have a differing opinion as long as it is the same differing opinion as his.:r

croatan 01-27-2009 11:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanGAR (Post 195477)
This is our new home and a darned good one at that.

Glad to hear you say that, Sean.

--

And, honestly, that's all that matters. I know we're all sad to see CS go. But without it, we wouldn't have the Asylum and we wouldn't have the countless friends we've made over the years. I haven't logged in there since shortly after I resigned as a moderator. That's how I'd prefer to remember it. Going over there now isn't going to add anything to my life except stress, which I don't need any more of. So I say we wish it well, put it behind us, and send the agglomeration on its puffy way.

VirtualSmitty 01-27-2009 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX (Post 195422)
What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

I really hope my comment about Jon taking the time to read that didn't cause it to be canned. That was a great thread, i'd feel pretty shitty about myself if I was the reason it got pulled :(


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