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2005/2006 wasn't really Benitez's team, he inherited most of the players. Now that Liverpool are stretched financially, he will need to sell before he buys. Should be interesting. Yes, I know they bring in the money from TV and other competitions, but as is, unless a miracle happens on Tuesday, they only have one to play for this year (EPL) and it won't depend on them, either. Kuyt is another Tevez, huge charge of energy, but I'll take someone with football smarts (Benayun in 'Pool) any day of the week.

Still, for a 200M+ pounds outlay, Benitez has to show much more than he has so far. Imagine Moyes with that much cash available. Or O'Neill. Or Bruce. I would bet any of them would show much better results. There is no way in hell I would be signing Benitez to a 5 year extension without certain guarantees and pay for performance written in. His entire team and season depend on just 2 players, way too little to show for that 200+M expenditure.

Let's see what happens in Arsenal game, although they are without 2 central defenders now. If they draw or loose to Arsenal with United having 2 games in hand, its a done deal (and season for Liverpool) whether United loose to Arsenal or not.

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Go liverpool!

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I just picked up Directv with Setanta Sports this month. I can finally keep up with this thread a little bit.:)

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wow, perfect start for 'pool

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Well boys, I told myself I wouldn't check scores, I wouldn't fast forward to the end, I would turn of my phone so as to ignore the texts/calls with score updates, and I couldn't handle it. I checked about 2 minutes before Drogba scored, and was overjoyed. I was ecstatic. then Drogba, then alex, and now lampard. I can't decided if I even want to see the goals. I hear Aurelio's was cheeky and that the Penalty was soft as lotion layered toliet paper. But, shogun and riddick I will need your addresses. *unless there is a repeat of istanbul with 5 minutes to go* but I bet on my team and lost, and you gentlemen have won. but I still point out that I called for a barca - MU final... and that's still a possibilty. Congrats.

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apparently I should have kept typing, as liverpool scored twice while I was... but then lo and behold Chelsea score no sooner than switching back to soccernet... curses.

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Oh.My.God.

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yeah. too bad it didn't finish my way... but Good luck with barca... really.

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That game was like watching a bunch of 8yr olds play.

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bunchball from one end to the other? or just stupid sloppy?

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or mine, mate.

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Both keepers were terrible. Cech was all over the place, except on his goal line. If Chelsea plays like that against Barca- we could see 7-1 agg.

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As a long time stopper/left back all I can say is that a defender always thinks his goalie got his back. Actually, trusts so. The howler Chech let in, from way out there in the boondocks seriously altered the game for Chelsea, defense at that point had to think twice about making any minor mistake seeing how Chech cannot be depended upon.

Great game. One thing that strikes me about this Chelsea team is how primadonna like most of them are, not just in this game, but this entire season. They score a goal or two and all of a sudden switch it off thinking the other team is done with. Pretty arrogant and self defeating, IMO. And as much as I thought they may give Barca a decent game or two, I am not at all sure now.

Speaking of Barca, what a team of divers. Jeeezzz... With so much talent they should play like true professionals. Oh well. At least Chelsea is way more physical than Hamburg, so there is hope. I felt really bad for Ribery, he had no one to pass to.

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2 great games to day, IMO. United seem to be back, complete control of the game (Porto had their first corner at the 74 minute mark), defense back to its normal self save for 1 or 2 mild scrambles. Arsenal did as they were supposed to.

As much as I hope Chelsea will kick Barca's ass, I am not sure of that pairing. ManU and Arsenal should give us great games. So, how many times will ManU and Arsenal play this season? Crazy.

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While I'm no expert , it seems to me that Man U. dressed there B squad against Everton and lost the game in the FA Cup . It was an entertaining match for 0-0 after 120 minutes . Are they not as good as they're thought to be ?

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If you think ManU's youngsters are not that good by taking the game to Everton's squad, then I am not sure what game you were watching. Everton's first corner came in the 73rd minute, they had what, 2 shots on goal the entire game, while United had a few chances and one clear penalty denied (one of the "not as good" youngsters, BTW). FA Cup is not what it sued to be, United certainly didn't have to "have" the game in order to qualify for ECL next year and the pitch was terrible by any standard, why risk any of your best players. The only mistake Freguson made was sub Macheda in the end in the hopes that Berbatov will score the penalty kick. Did I ever say here just how much I dislike Berbatov?

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Oh, and I forgot to add that Ferguson most likely will have a loooooong talk with Foster and his idiotic thinking on the pitch, he put the team in jeopardy on two occasions with simply stupid and very childish decision making. Actually, for anyone even with half a brain those would not have been "decisions" to begin with. That was the only serious mistake Ferguson made, IMO.

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i wouldn't go as far as to say B-team. he did field some great players, maybe not the best team available to him but certainly not a B-team.
props to howard :tu

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:dance::dance::dance::dance:
Andrei Arshavin (36')
Andrei Arshavin (67')
Andrei Arshavin (70')
Andrei Arshavin (90')
too bad liverpool always manages a late extra-time goal to ruin things :rolleyes:

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Just my thought, exactly. If I ever hear Benitez complain about other teams getting preferential treatment, I will hurl. Liverpool have been getting these "mystical" added minutes at the end of games for years now. Where did 7 minutes come from? Just 4 subs (add 2 minutes, standard, OK, maybe another 2minutes for stopages).

I want to see both Pogrebnyak and Zhirkov move over to EPL, Arshavin and Pavlyuchenko are proving that Russian youth academies can produce talent (my father-in-law used to be in charge of one in Moldova). I think these two will be picked up this summer and so will be Dzagoev (17 year old).

This is getting interesting with Chelsea-Everton coming up tomorrow. With United at pretty much full strength again, I do not think Portsmouth will be an issue for them (and hope Berbatov is benched). And Villa can benefit with the top 4 teams losing points. Probably the most interesting EPL finish in the past who knows how many years.

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After that penalty kick , I can clearly see why you dislike Berbatov . And I state again that I'm no expert , I've only recently found these matches on live tv in NJ and I'm still trying to learn all the different rules for the many tournaments/Cups . I think I would rather miss the goal like Cahill did then hit a dribbler like Berbatov . It did seem to me that Everton were playing mostly defense with an occasional long ball attempt to Cahill .

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Berbatov is the direct opposite to what United stand for: he is lazy, doesn't try to get the ball back when he loses it, and with the exception of the Porto game doesn't track back to defend. I am simply tired of hearing people tell me that I "don't get Berbatov" and his play making ability, the fact is that with his arrival United went from top scoring team to barely scoring one, he was the only arival last summer and just much things have changed since. This season is on him and I can only be thankful to the defensive line that we are still on top of the league.

Isnt it scary when United youth academy brings the game to the 6th best team in the league? Fabio twins will be monsters in another season or two and Macheda will step up as well. I found it interesting that all of Macheda's passes were pinpoint on and had Wellback played better they would scored at least a couple. Wellback is OK, but once again showed he is a step too slow and a few pounds too light to play in EPL, at least for now. Too bad that Wellback could not reciprocate the precision of passes to Macheda, I'd love to see Macheda play for 90 minutes next to Ronaldo and Rooney.

Anyway, one down (Arsenal-Liverpool) and one to go (Chelsea-Everton), although I think Chelsea will win 2-0. United should be 2-0 as well, at least I hope they are.

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Bloody hell! at the end of the match I was screaming DO NOT LET HIM HAVE THE EFFING BALL!!!!!!!!!!!! but NO one would listen to me... his screamers to the right side netting and his counter attack goals were spectacular... i wish they were against United, but good lord, Liverpool's defense has been shite the past 3 weeks.

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If you watch Arshavin's goals (YouTube, although you may need to search in Russian language) in the past 2 seasons of the Russian Premier League you'll see just how skilled he is, some are spectacular. His link up with Pogrebnyak was as lethal as anything I've seen in Europe and if Arsenal buy Porgebnyak they can easily get rid of Bendtner and the like. What is strange is that Liverpool defense gave him tons of space, that actually is coach's error, IMO, no matter how much Benitez wants to put it on players, I'd be calling a defender or a midfielder over after the first goal and giving them a "personal" assignmnt of shadowing the guy no matter where he is on the pitch.

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I did notice how settled Macheda and the Fabio twins were when in posession of the ball . Highly skilled youngsters . :tu

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Interesting to see Berbatov missing from today's game, hopefully SAF had a good talk with him and explained the meaning of life for a United player to him and what it means to be one. Better yet, the rest of the players should explain it to him.

And with Carrick just scoring United's 2nd the game seems to be done with and Liverpool are back to second place. I'll be lighting up a nice cigar tonight.

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I was saying this very same thing talking with aldukes a day or 2 ago saying they looked lethal like Shevchenko and Rebrov at Dynamo Kiev. I always wonder about these kinds of dreamy partnerships, if you took them out of the machine they were playing in and plunked them, as a pair, into another team/machine/system, do they still perform dreamily? My pick of Russia in the Euros suffered big time when Progrebnyak went out injured right before the tournament, this much is certain.

Never got to see with Sheva and Rebrov but I second the motion to have Progrebnyak at Arsenal

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Pogrebnyak is a different player than Arshavin, style wise, but just as lethal. One is mostly a creator (AA), the other one is a finisher (Pogrebnyak).

And then there is Zhirkov, one of the best left wingers in the world today, only Robbrn can compete with him (when healthy).

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(I'm not sure ManU defense can deal with the Arsenal offense for 3 games in a row) :confused:

Good thing Arse plays no defense.

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I am a United fan for the past 16 years now, so what do I know? Without AA playing in the 2 CL games we should be fine, IMO, especially now that the entire defensive line is back with room to spare (Wes Brown coming back). I am still worried about the front line, though, we still create a ton of chances and yet can only convert a few. I do hope Berbatov rides the bench for the rest of the campaign, we need all 11 on the pitch in every remaining game.

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I'm not sure Rio is fit enough for the upcoming sched. Same with Wes Brown. I hate to say this, but Vidic is lost when Rio is out. Evra has been solid for pretty much the whole year- just a few bad games lately.

I think they should be safe in the Prem- but the CL should be interesting.

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Have to disagree on Vidic having been playing either center back or left back all my life. Like I said above somewhere, once you start thinking your partner is not up to par (Evans in this case) your entire game changes whether you like it or not since you now think for two people and expect to bail the other out. Evans has shown great ability and promise for the future, but as can be seen lately, physical and mental fatigue did him in eventually. Last game they did really well without Rio, not that Portsmouth was giving them much to think about (just 2 shots on goal in second half). If anything, I'll take Vidic over Rio, Rio has made plenty of mistakes over last 2 seasons. Rio started his career playing attacker, he is a converted center back, although a great one.

Rio is fully fit at this point. Wes still needs a game or two to get up to full speed. Evra played 2-3 poor games, but I expect him to be up to it for the remaining ones. Plus, Fabio seems to be healthy and should help Evra out in some games. At least Anderson is back and Fletcher is healthy (can't recall the last game United lost with Fletcher starting).

I am still worried about Spurs this weekend, United really need to start scoring like they did last season.

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Aldukes, how is your spring season going? Team Pittman was barely beaten 2-1 by The Arsenal of Huntsville, two cheap goals from poor defending left the keeper (me) high and dry. One of my defenders gave me hell about it at half time, so I said "stud, here's the gloves go do better" and I went to take on my preferred position of Center Attacking Mid. Not only did We play much better with a bloody competent midfielder but actually had some attacking options and scored a goal. Did I mention I scored the goal?(I never score, so I'll give the wonderous details as it won't happen again) Picked the pocket of their midfielder right at half field, gave the ball to my R Winger who promptly returned it to me 10 yards up the pitch. Striker 1 called for the ball facing me. I played it to him and moved up he played me square and I turned my back to the goal to hold up play for the Dmid who was no where to be found, so as the ball comes to me from my left I flicked it past my left leg with my right foot and megged (luck) the Defender who was bodying up on me. I ran past him expecting to be run over by the right back(stupid fast) but he was running with striker 1 with his back to me... me n the keeper 30 yards of ground. Did my best fernando Torres impression of speed (which is laughable) keeper came out low, so I hit it high, goal. Grabbed the ball returned it to the spot. I was happy. My only other chance came when striker 2 took the ball down the left wing, and cut in and laid it back to me 23-24 yards out. Tried my best Steven Gerrard impression and it curled barely wide right. After all that running I subbed myself. managed 29 minutes total in the field after not playing there for 5 weeks, and being really out of shape. Problem is now I don't have a keeper as the defender who chastised me says he won't play it anymore... any ideas?

Current record for Misfits FC is 1-2-1 total of 5 points, out of 4 matches. With 7 Goals for 7 goals against. Next week, the first place Ta Sety Warriors who are currently 6-0-0.

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Team Dukes is actually playing well this season. You wouldn't know it by our record, but we've improved drastically over last fall. We're -6 in goal diff- but thats because we've scored 5 goals in 4.5 games. Yes theres a half there. The friggin lights shut off in the middle of the game- we were leading 1-0 at that point, about 50 min in. The league is making us finish up the last 31 min.
Our keeper was out for a few games, with kidney stones, but he will be joining us this week. First game of the season was a draw against the team that won 2 years ago and placed second last year. Our last game was against the best team in the league. I had the pleasure of marking some dude that came up in the youth system for a very famous team in Spain (think RM). We came back from 1-0 and 2-1 but the dude scored from about 25 out with 4 min left.
We have a tough stretch for the next three weeks, but we should gain a point. Oh, and our right mid had to go back to Italy due to visa issues.

record- *1-3-1 *the game that isnt finished
own goals- none, but an assist
wide open goals missed- 2
free kicks send over the fence from 45 out- 1
times I fouled the dude from RM in one game- 14
drunk refs- 1 dude kept time on his cell phone, didnt have cards, referred to a goal kick as a "kick ball"

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Aldukes, where in Brooklyn do you play? I used to play for the corporate league, years ago, all major companies in Manhattan had a team back then. And usually weekends (both Sat and Sun) on Brighton Beach with a bunch of Russians, those wer epretty tough games ability level wise.

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damn! I thought my refs were bad.

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ManU can really ruin a day. Things were looking great around 1:30 when it was 2-0 to the Spurs. 5-2? Come on. They can't put it on the penalty. That was one stinking goal. They just gave up when they still had the lead. Then a sub at 85 minutes? Why? Horrible. All I need now is for the draft to make my day even worse. I need a good smoke.

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Well, I thought it may be one of those days for United, plenty of ball and game control and some really good chances in first half with nothing to show. First goal was all Rio (no wonder I said above how much I prefer Vidic to him), second was all Rafael leaving Modric in acres of space (and he paid the price by being subbed, needs to concentrate more plus Modric owned him a number of times today).

Penalty? Only someone not playing the game can claim it was not, the only question was a red card or yellow. Gomes FIRST tripped Carrick and only then barely touched the ball with his finger tips, had it been in reverse (touch the ball first) we would not be discussing this at all as there would not be a penalty.

Nani will probably be gone this summer, have no idea how someone with so much talent can't make a simple pass. Berbatov actually crossed a few times into his own half to defend, a miracle! Ronaldo did so consistently after SAF's ripping him a new one last week, second game in the row now. Evra is playing the worst stretch of games (4 now?) in his carreer, have no idea what's going on in his head. No wonder United just bought a 17 year Brazilian for that spot, should be interesting next year.

Chelsea, although in full control of the game, got lucky in the end. Liverpool had an easy game, as much as I like Hull's spirit they were no match at all.

Bring on the Gunners!

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I'm not arguing whether it was a penalty or not. He did get the player first. My point is Tottenham stopped playing after that happened. They still had a 2-1 lead after that. They just gave up. Giving up 5 goals in a half is ridiculous.

As an Arsenal fan, I'm looking forward to seeing ManU this week.

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Spurs had what, 3 chances on goal in the first half? Converted two of them and only due to blatant mismarking by Rio (too lazy to take another step towards the ball and simply waiting for it to come to him) and then Rafael (leaving Modric all alone and doing I have no idea what in the middle of the box when Vidic was already there). United were in full control all game long with just a few exceptions, at least in the game I watched. Spurs didn't "give up", they were simply outplayed and out muscled, you can only play defense for so long and then your legs get tired eventually. Most of the play took place in Spurs half all day long, especially after the 2nd half started and they had 9 men behind the ball for 15+ minutes, why did anyone expect that pressure not to produce something once United plugged one of the outlets for Spurs' attacks (Nani's bad game) and then the other (Rafael)?

Keane was really quiet all game long, that should say something about the game in general and lack of opportunity in front for Spurs (Bent did have great effort on goal in the second half). Evra presented a few opportunities to Spurs, but that's about it, both goals came from his side of the pitch. Have no idea if Pavlyuchenko would have altered the game or not, but he wasn't even on the bench today, that was stupid, IMO. Tells me they came to play defense and take their chances, the result is exactly the one they deserved for the strategy selected, IMO. Italians are masters at that, but this is not Italian league.

If Gunners create just 4 chances next week, as they did with 'Pool, I am all for it :D At least Ade and Van Persie should be back, although defense is still very suspect.

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Forgot to add that Ledley King was billed prior to the game as the best CB in the league, if not Europe. Right...

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I didn't see the first half, so I can't comment on that. I do know I am truly amazed at teams that bunker down after getting a lead thinking they will hold on for a half. That makes no sense to me. Yes, they did luck up on their goals, but some pressure keeps the other team from just going to an all out attack and coming back.

As far as Cl goes, we will see. Gallas and Clichy going down has really hurt us defensively. I hope they can fix it. I see why you all let Silvestre walk.

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Silvestre was good a few years ago, no doubt about it. The guy had speed, heart and understood the game, but like all things, there is a point of diminishing returns. I think he'd still be a United player had he not request to leave.

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ATTN Metrosexuals and Mancs, Ferdy's got a lifestyle magazine

good for a Monday laugh :)

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yes?

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lifetime subscriber^

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Not if they do the same with them that they did to us.

by the way, If you ever want to watch some absolute shite football watch Newcastle v Pompey. I think there were three legitimate chances the entire match. 1 of them came from David James dropping the ball on Viduka's foot.

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Yeah, except Arshavin won't be there to make those chances :D I can convert more chances than Ade can and with Van Persie now confirmed as injured and unable to play in the first game, I see no reason to be alarmed. Fabregas, Nasri and Walcott can all create, but as finishers go, only Fabregas is OK. And Arsenal's back line is very suspect now, while United's is back to its normal self with only Evra needing some serious rest, the games should be interesting to say the least.

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arsenal does seem to step it up against the big clubs though... time will tell. :rolleyes:

Good luck, I want ManU to stay in the CL as long as possible...:al

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Oh, BTW, I never liked Shearer as a player, very dirty and one dimensional, IMO. With all the hoopla surrounding his "return" to the club, I hope they are relegated so that the management can assess the situation properly and hire someone who can actually coach them back to EPL.