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pnoon 03-21-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 297171)
Liverpool may have beaten Man U once this season, won't happen twice.

:r

They sure showed good form today vs. Fulham. :rolleyes:

Don Fernando 03-21-2009 02:08 PM

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Fullham, Boro, what is the difference Peter?

pnoon 03-21-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 297249)
Fullham, Boro, what is the difference Peter?

No difference. Just having some :hf

Don Fernando 03-21-2009 07:30 PM

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laugh all you want, we're still on top of the leage :fu

theycallmedan'lboone 03-23-2009 03:40 PM

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* for reference only * Liverpool have beaten United twice this season.

Don Fernando 03-24-2009 03:56 AM

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well, twice then. But United is still on top of the leage and that's not going to change.

pnoon 03-24-2009 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 300962)
well, twice then. But United is still on top of the leage and that's not going to change.

He says hopefully.



A couple of weeks ago I would have agreed with you. Now, not so much. :)

theycallmedan'lboone 03-24-2009 07:07 AM

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yes United are still in command, their current form doesn't belie their abilities, whereas L'pool's finally seems to. United are a point up, with a game in hand. This will be a race to the finish. United must LOSE at least one more game for Liverpool to take over. A lose and a draw would make me happier... but this season will IMHO come down to the last game of the season. As far as the CL goes... I look forward to it. Liverpool has Chelsea, with the first Leg at Anfield, but United has the far easier road, facing porto, then either Arsenal or Villareal. Arsenal has played United well this season, and with the CL being their only hope for silverware, you'd figure Voyer would put more of his eggs in that basket, where "Mister Alex" has still the EPL to work on keeping... Should be interesting at the least. CL Final party at me house.

Be Champions.

Lumpold 03-24-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 301128)
CL Final party at me house.

You are actually turning in to Jamie Carragher.

theycallmedan'lboone 03-24-2009 07:00 PM

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someone noticed....I'm thinking about dropping a 5vr that Liverpool moves past Chelsea in the CL... any takers?

TheRiddick 03-24-2009 09:48 PM

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Liverpool are just an injury away from being a disaster and in some ways Chelsea as well. Anelka is already out, either Torres or Gerrard go down and both teams will be done.

I'll take the Liverpool vs Chelsea CL bet, what the hell. With Hiddink in the house I say Chelsea are a better side (although they have no bench).

mastershogun 03-24-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 302583)
Liverpool are just an injury away from being a disaster and in some ways Chelsea as well. Anelka is already out, either Torres or Gerrard go down and both teams will be done.

I'll take the Liverpool vs Chelsea CL bet, what the hell. With Hiddink in the house I say Chelsea are a better side (although they have no bench).

:tpd:

theycallmedan'lboone 03-26-2009 06:28 AM

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aright riddick, and mastersho... that does it for me humi's kinda full, but can't afford just giving them away.. like I did with Auburn football this past season.. Riddick, Shogun, Winner who goes through being either Liverpool or Chelsea. Chelsea goes through, you fine gentleman receive 5 each, the lads from the mersey go through.. well. I win. Be Champions. I'd take Liverpool's bench over Chelsea's any day of the week. I'd like to think that Liverpool could win 4 against Chelsea in a season. However Chelsea have been resurgent, but Liverpool have been.. disgustingly menacing? Time will tell. Be champions.

Jason 03-28-2009 12:47 PM

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Just laughed out loud watching SKY sports news, previewing the holland/scotland match, they're interviewing the Scots in Amsterdam and one says:

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Muh 'eh says it'll be Olland three nil, me hairt says it'll be Olland two nil
good stuff :D

aldukes 03-28-2009 03:19 PM

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Hi. I'm the new Spain kits. Boy am I ugly.

TheRiddick 03-28-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 304640)
aright riddick, and mastersho... that does it for me humi's kinda full, but can't afford just giving them away.. like I did with Auburn football this past season.. Riddick, Shogun, Winner who goes through being either Liverpool or Chelsea. Chelsea goes through, you fine gentleman receive 5 each, the lads from the mersey go through.. well. I win. Be Champions. I'd take Liverpool's bench over Chelsea's any day of the week. I'd like to think that Liverpool could win 4 against Chelsea in a season. However Chelsea have been resurgent, but Liverpool have been.. disgustingly menacing? Time will tell. Be champions.

I am a long time ManU fan, but what the hey :-) I just think that Liverpool may have an over-confidence problem as of now and like I said, you better prey that Torres comes back from internationals next week in one piece.

That should be an interesting week...

Don Fernando 03-29-2009 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 308255)
Just laughed out loud watching SKY sports news, previewing the holland/scotland match, they're interviewing the Scots in Amsterdam and one says:

The city was packed with Scots in kilts when I took a stroll in my lunchbreak on friday. Reminded me of the time Ajax played Celtic for the Champions League a few years ago, those Scots know how to party.

his first git feeling was right, Olland won 3-0 (Huntelaar, Van Persie, Kuyt)

mastershogun 03-29-2009 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 304640)
aright riddick, and mastersho... that does it for me humi's kinda full, but can't afford just giving them away.. like I did with Auburn football this past season.. Riddick, Shogun, Winner who goes through being either Liverpool or Chelsea. Chelsea goes through, you fine gentleman receive 5 each, the lads from the mersey go through.. well. I win. Be Champions. I'd take Liverpool's bench over Chelsea's any day of the week. I'd like to think that Liverpool could win 4 against Chelsea in a season. However Chelsea have been resurgent, but Liverpool have been.. disgustingly menacing? Time will tell. Be champions.

sorry, forgot to respond to this... i'm game :)
not always confident in my pick but always up for some fun :tu

theycallmedan'lboone 03-31-2009 01:31 PM

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I can't say as that Liverpool have a confidence problem. United might... but Liverpool... Who's bigger than liverpool :'-) thanks carra for proving me point!

TheRiddick 03-31-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 312779)
I can't say as that Liverpool have a confidence problem. United might... but Liverpool... Who's bigger than liverpool :'-) thanks carra for proving me point!

Please tell me you're kidding. United have a confidence problem? Wow...

It is remarkable that Liverpool supporters assume that the team won't drop points from now on.

theycallmedan'lboone 03-31-2009 08:03 PM

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I figure that the only chance for my team to win the EPL is for them to win every match and hope United's string of bad form continues. Do United have the upper hand? yes. Are they still Favorites. I think they have been since day one. Do I think they have the propensity to continue to drop points? Yes. It's is remarkable to me that United supporters deem themselves above dropping points. Obviously my team isn't above it... see Stoke, Hull, BORO... My point that United has a possible confidence problem... they've lost 2 consecutive games. They had all their big names against fulham save Vidic, and still put on a piss poor display. Even the boy rooney couldn't save them, try as he did... wouldn't you have a confidence problem if you lost two games in a row for the first time in a long time? They do have an easier (if there is one) road is the CL which should give SAF some time to rest some of the older boys for the PL... time shall tell. The season will come down to the last game or two IMHO. It's hard to tell Liverpool that they have a big head scoring what 13 goals in 3 games and having beaten some of the biggest names in football doing it.... Real Madrid, Manchester United... sure United may win out and I don't think too many people would be surprised if they did, but Liverpool have shown what they are made of, finally stepped it up in the big games, and honestly are only 3 wins out of the 10 draws away from being untouchable. Time shall tell.

TheRiddick 03-31-2009 08:39 PM

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Hmmm... where did you see me state that I do not expect United to drop points? I did say that the assumption out there is that Liverpool won't (by 'pool fans). Actually I more than willing to bet 'pool will drop points and not just one game. Only last season's Chelsea team had the sort of end of season consistency that is United's trademark for some time now. Remember Keegan and Blackburn? Arsenal last year?

I will be the first one to say that what United need is a true striker. Yes, I like Rooney and what he brings, but they do miss Nistelory type player in the box ever since he left. For the number of opportubities United create each and every game, they should be posting 4-5 goals every time, but they don't. In esense, they have been playin with 10 men on pretty much every game, at least every time that lazy ass Berbatov is on. I really wish they unload both Berbatov and Tevez (yeah, I know I'll catch flack for saying this) this summer and replace them with one true striker-poacher. And then let Macheda play in the senior squad, he has been ripping the reserves league to shreds for some time now.

Actually, I really wish SAF would let Macheda loose on Villa this weekend, not much to loose and everything to gain, IMO.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-02-2009 07:13 AM

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Can't say as that I disagree with your striker thought...


update on team Misfits in the Huntsville Adult Soccer League, where I, El Pittman, am the Special one. Ok not quite. Since my knee injury I've been relegated to playing keeper, not too bad since our old one fell off the face of the earth. Knee is getting better by the day. We've had three game a goalless draw, a 2-2 draw and a 4-3 win. Last night was our first win, pretty exciting. minus the letting in 5 goals. I was kinda upset at myself last night for the first goal, I froze and didn't charge the attacker, and for their third, which was a free kick. (although I wouldn't mind blaming the ref) I was lining up my wall and he blew the whistle and I was way out of position, lob shot, just past my fingers... oh well. So right now, we're one of the 2 teams in our division who hasn't been defeated. We have a 2 week break and will get back at it.. no goals from The boy Pittman yet.. it will come, probably in the form of a penalty..

GTsetGO 04-05-2009 10:59 AM

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holy hell did you see the finish to the MU/villa game. literally had me on the edge of my chair and i jump up when that 3rd goal was scored.

great game

TheRiddick 04-05-2009 11:25 AM

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MACHEDA (I called it above).

Ferdinand not playing was interesting, they kept saying his back is fine and should hold for the game. Both Villa balls were headers and I am not sure why Evans and O'Shay, with their decent height, could not do better.

I think Tevez is gone come summer, Inter?, lots of energy that doesn't do much in the end.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-05-2009 03:52 PM

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Tevez is a rooney-ish player, minus rooney's defensive skills. I agree, he'll probably be gone over the summer.

Bubba - NJ 04-06-2009 08:39 PM

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That was a GREAT GOAL by the 17 year old Macheda complete with going to family in the stands and getting a yellow for it . Benayouns goal for Liverpool was excellent as well . This game is really growing on me ! Maybe I'll get lucky enough and a couple friendlies will get played in Philly this summer . :tu

theycallmedan'lboone 04-07-2009 07:09 AM

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I think with the season in it's final throes, JDB is close to have wrapped it up.



anybody going to offer a 5er on United?!?! HAHAH! *in no way would I ever take that bet*

theycallmedan'lboone 04-07-2009 12:45 PM

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Good luck to all involved today. May there be much happiness, scotch and cigars.
Be Champions.

mastershogun 04-07-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 324431)
anybody going to offer a 5er on United?!?! HAHAH! *in no way would I ever take that bet*

maybe you should have taken that bet... at least at the 4th minute!

TheRiddick 04-07-2009 05:26 PM

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I had a sinking feeling ManU will falter today, too many people discount Porto yet they are still in the CL playoffs right along with the "big boys". They need a real striker as I keep saying, and until the day they buy one they won't be a "whole" team. This from a long time ManU supporter. Scholes needs to retire and will do so this summer, his play was atrocious today. Even Carrick could not pass the ball today for the most part. Arghh....

theycallmedan'lboone 04-08-2009 12:28 PM

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I didn't get to see either match, as I was saving up to take this afternoon off, but the goals were all very nice. Rooneys little flick, not too shabby, Adebeyour's goal was very nice..

mastershogun 04-08-2009 02:31 PM

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1st half of the barca game was awesome!

Jason 04-08-2009 10:02 PM

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Hiddink is the man. has to be the special one that tuenwd the prev games into a snoozefest

TheRiddick 04-08-2009 11:42 PM

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Is the bet on Liverpool - Chelsea still on? Not that I can't happen, but I don't think Chelsea will loose at home by 2 goals.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-09-2009 06:20 AM

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I started the bet, I intend to finish it, to suggest otherwise would be un-gentlemanly of me, and no I don't think Chelsea will lose at home by 2+ goals. I know they can be beaten, and by 2+ goals, but Liverpool didn't show up, or did for about 10 minutes and then said 'oi lad pints at the pub'. I will say that Essien did a remarkable job shadowing Steven Gerrard, he was only Vaguely there. What do you think about JT's yellow for "jumping into" Pepe Reina? I couldn't believe it, he's on a yellow, ball is 5 feet above his head and he jumps laterally... not too bright from the London Lad. I do not envy whoever continues from our clash, as they will face a devastatingly effective Barca squad. Anyone see Henry kick the keeper in the face?

Need some hilarity in your life? Enjoy

mastershogun 04-09-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 327875)
I started the bet, I intend to finish it, to suggest otherwise would be un-gentlemanly of me, and no I don't think Chelsea will lose at home by 2+ goals. I know they can be beaten, and by 2+ goals, but Liverpool didn't show up, or did for about 10 minutes and then said 'oi lad pints at the pub'. I will say that Essien did a remarkable job shadowing Steven Gerrard, he was only Vaguely there. What do you think about JT's yellow for "jumping into" Pepe Reina? I couldn't believe it, he's on a yellow, ball is 5 feet above his head and he jumps laterally... not too bright from the London Lad. I do not envy whoever continues from our clash, as they will face a devastatingly effective Barca squad. Anyone see Henry kick the keeper in the face?

Need some hilarity in your life? Enjoy

i know henry could not stop and was sliding off balanced but nonetheless that was very dangerous. :mad:

TheRiddick 04-09-2009 02:52 PM

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Terry is an idiot, too bad so many refs tolerate his (mis)behavior instead of doing what they need to rules wise. He usually runs through people never even looking at the ball.

Recall what I said above about Liverpool, they are an injury or two away from disaster. Gerard now, Torres may be as well come weekend. Rafa has no subs for these two.

I do not like Chelsea for a number of reasons, but them bringing Hiddinck in was the difference I figured could be enough to balance things out in this match up. Lampard looked like crap, his usual self IMO, and I have no idea why he ever features on England team. Essien was the difference. Now that Corvallho will most likely deputise for Terry, I think Chelsea defense may actually be improved for the next game, where Terry plays using his size and lack of brains, Corvallho is all brains and speed. Not that I am saying it is a done deal, but next game will probably be very entertaining (and dependent on what happens this weekend in EPL).

As much as I hope ManU can beat Porto away, unless they take some chances with their attacking options, I see Porto playin 10 in their own half and looking for nil-nil result. Evans gave away the first goal, Neville the second, Ferdinand is essential for next game. I'd say let Macheda do some running, his is way different and more effective than that of Tevez, and this may be enough to unsettle Porto. Plus I am willing to bet Scholes will be on the bench at best and Park will run Porto rugged.

Barca are the only sure bet so far.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-09-2009 05:26 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_cwwWcyqQ really you should watching this.

TheRiddick 04-09-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by theycallmedan'lboone (Post 328944)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_cwwWcyqQ really you should watching this.

He's way too light on Lampard, Terry and Cole. Funny how he didn't have any negative feedback on Liverpool and ManU players...

theycallmedan'lboone 04-10-2009 06:14 AM

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I'm not sure, but I think he's the same guy who imitates the liverpool players. I think had any Liverpool player been there, or a United player other than Carrick, He'd have said something. The whole "unfortunate forward hairline" was hilarious.


Any predictions from this weekend. All the talking heads on Skysports/soccernet, seem to think Liverpool is set to take out their frustrations on poor blackburn. to be honest I'd love to see it, my opinion is that if they don't win 2,3-0 The chelsea defeat may have taken whatever starch Liverpool had left, out of them. United play a Sunderland who is on the verge of winning.. I'd be really shocked if united don't go 3-0 on them. any thoughts?

TheRiddick 04-10-2009 12:10 PM

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Hmmmm... Rio was there as well, and so was Beckham :-))

Liverlpool game. Blackburn are more hurt, injuries wise, than 'Pool, although their drive is stronger since they are playing for their lives in the EPL. Tough to predict, although Gerard not playing is a big deal, not only will he be missed on the pitch (although I love Benayun and what he brings), this alters team's mental state since they will also be thinking of the upcoming trip to Chelsea and Gerard's possible sitting out that game as well. Let's not forget Torres is playing somewhat hurt, anything happens to him and 'Pool are done for the year. For a supposed contender, relying on just 2 players and their health is simply crazy, IMO. I'd say this may end in a draw with Blackburn front line's size making the difference at set pieces.

United game. Have no idea at this point. Vidic is there and I am guessing he will partner O'Shay (both Evans and Ferdinand are out). This leaves Neville on the right (an issue since he is not up to snuff yet) and no other backup, they do have a decent up and coming young kid, but he's more of center back. In the middle I call Ronaldo, Park, Fletcher and Carrick, although either Anderson or Nani could deputise for Carrick (he was way too slow and tired in the past week making way too many mistakes). Scholes better not be on the bench (Andreson). Up front, Rooney and Tevez, although I wish SAF starts playing the young guns, chiefly Macheda since he brings a different type of running (North/South instead of circles like Tevez does), at least for the last 20-25 minutes. I'd say a one goal win for United, whatever the score. At least I wish it this way :-)

Chelsea should win. Everton just might bring it to Villa and take that game. Arsenal should win, although they have a bunch of injuries and this could affect the game greatly (Van Persie is out?).

theycallmedan'lboone 04-10-2009 09:41 PM

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true, no date on when it was filmed.. if it was not too long there's always the red giant... anyways. I'm glad someone else appreciate's the israeli. I think he brings much more to the game than Kuyt, and I love kuyt's never say day thing. Don't forget Gallas... he's done for the season. Carra has said the league is more important. Does rafa da gaffa play Gerrard and just hope for the best come Tuesday? or does he let the team play without him and see how things go (my guess). I'd love to see Everton beat villa. They're playing on nothing but fumes and chemistry, although JO brings something completely different (thanks Monty)...

TheRiddick 04-11-2009 12:35 AM

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I don't think Gerard will play tomorrow, he is hurting and even if Rafa says go, I don't think Gerard's body will comply, he was more than subdued against Chelsea. Gallas is done, but I am sure Silvestre will do just fine in his place, Van Persie is a much bigger issue. Everton will play with a double incentive, first to overtake Villa and then hope that Arsenal will falter as well, should be a great game. If Moyes gets more money this summer, Everton will be scary next year.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-11-2009 05:46 AM

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I like David Moyes, I really think he's a good coach, and must agree, a few key buys and they could be VERY scary. Agger and Benayoun, Insua, Mascherano starting 11. 4-4-2... A minutes silence for the 96. Thats a little bit scary seeing Anfield deathly silent.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-11-2009 11:13 AM

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your boy Macheda has scored some important goals here lately.

TheRiddick 04-11-2009 10:18 PM

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Looks like Tevez is gone this summer for sure, and as a ManU supporter I say, Thank you for your contribution, but its time to move along. I think Ronaldo will be gone as well, I just need to see Tosic in a few more games to see what he can do. Not sure Ribery will be available, but I'll gladly would do the trade.

Chelsea looked like its a game done with, have no idea why Bolton spent the entire first half playing behind the ball, by the looks of it they could have done much better if they actually brought the game to Chelsea from the get go. 'Pool looked impressive. Arsenal? Same as ManU, I had doubts.

At least we have some great young guns coming through ManU youth team, although we still need a real striker, Berba ain't it IMO. Macheda will do great, the kid has no "mental block" playing the big league, and his direct running is new for ManU finesse game. A few of my soccer buddies play fantasy league, last weekend (before Macheda's first outing) I told them to look out for the kid, they gave me a strange look and asked, Who the hell are you talking about? They know now :-)

I am still worried about Porto game, ManU really need to step up.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-12-2009 07:43 AM

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I think united will pull out the stops at Porto. I got to watch The last 20 of the United-Sunderland fixture, and that kid has got some serious talent, he will be a force soon enough. I wouldn't mind ronaldo leaving, and I think his "mild" year will help him want to move, he gets beat up pretty bad in the EPL, and he would live longer in Spain. Only problem with him leaving, is who united get to replace him with (multiple)

TheRiddick 04-12-2009 12:09 PM

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Well, Tosic is in, and from what I saw of him so far, he will fit well, he just needs better conditioning, up to EPL standards, plus some more weight and muscle, same issue Fletcher had when he was brought in years ago. Rumors are that Ribery will be Ronaldo's replacement and although Germans kep saying No, with a new coach to be installed soon enough their resolve to keep the guy plus Uniteds ability to pay a lot (using the proceeds from Ronaldo's sale) could change people's minds. Tevez is gone and I see Berbatov as a sub next year, no team in EPL can play 10 men in every game Berbatov is on, he's got more talent than most anyone around, but his laziness eventually costs the team, 10 men on for most of the season catches up quickly and makes the 10 men very tired and spent (we see it now). Welback will be loaned out, so will Frazier again, or both sold to bring one more true striker (Macheda is one). And one more central defender, they have a great young kid in the academy, but will probably go for one more experienced body, should have kept Pique, but then again we'd never find out how good Evans can be. They are set in the middle for now, hopefully Hargreaves will come back healthy (yet another option to replace Ronaldo, although risky due to Owen' on-going medical issues). Scholes is gone next year, Anderson will step up. And I still need to see Ljajic, supposedly he's the real deal and another option to replace Ronaldo.

I expected Everton to step up today and they did, away at a great team. Moyes needs more funds this summer to make next year's EPL more interesting beyond the usual 4-5 teams and out, I really hope team's management gets him the mney required. Arsenal could be scary next year as well depending on injuries. Chelsea must start bringing young blood in, this year shows they are getting old fast. 'Pool? Get rid of Benitez and start buying strikers to help out Torres, Benitez's expenditures, over 200M pounds and counting, have so far failed to bring in any trophies, that's the poorest ROI I have seen so far at any team in EPL or Europe for that matter.

theycallmedan'lboone 04-12-2009 05:12 PM

Re: The Official Soccer/Football/Futbol/Calcio thr
 
While, I can't say I agree entirely about getting rid of Benitez, Jason has mentioned the reek Parry issue, which according to Rafa da Gaffa, will straighten things out. Although I thought he was outside his mind when he was considering losing Alonso to pick up Barry. I think Rafa is a pretty good coach. Time will tell. Personally I think the Gerrard/Torres combination is a pretty decent one at WORST. While Gerrard isn't a true striker, I think he pairs well with Torres. I think Benitez has made some good buys in the past bit, Skrtel, Reira, I think Ngog will do acceptably, and Insua as he has pretty much proven. A good manager must have time, I think 'the hackman' needed more time, but wasn't the best fit for Chelsea. Yes, hiddink has done well, and should be kept if possible by the chelsea boardroom. I think If Benny can keep his defensive corps together(AGGER DAMNIT). I have trouble with complaining about kuyt on the wing thing, because he has the knack for popping up with goals on the occassion and the man will flat run until he cannot move. I think Benayoun is a better fit there and would produce more but I'm not the boss. TO refute your "trophyless claim" 2005 CL Cup, 2006 FA Cup, 2006 (or 7) Charity Shield. Lost by 1 goal in the 2007 CL Final. Not exactly poor returns. Wouldn't have minded picking up a piece of silverware in between, especially the FA cup last year. Trophey's take time, and I think Benitez is what's best for Liverpool.


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