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RevSmoke 11-17-2011 01:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1477055)
Okay I have a couple questions for you pro pipers.

I use to smoke a pipe a few years ago, the pipe cost me about $75 if I remember correctly I would just go grab whatever cherry like flavor they tobacconist sold and enjoy it. I broke it and decided to quit rather than replace it. Now I am considering starting it up again as a way to enjoy a nice short smoke. My wife prefers the smell of pipe tobacco to cigars so that is a plus.

This "cherry" tobacco I was buying, is it comparable to infused cigars?
Is it completely flavored and unnatural?
Does good natural tobacco put off an unappealing aroma to a non-smoker?
In other words if I am smoking what you would consider good tobacco will my wife think it stinks?

I realize now, I know nothing about what I was doing back when I tried this hobby.

Aromatics may or may not contain quality tobacco as their constituent base. The flavors of cherry/rum/maple/fruitloops/etc.. are all acheived by a "top note" flavoring added to the tobacco. Pipe tobacco as a general rule does smell much better than does a cigar - at least to the non-smoker. However, English blends will piss people off like nobody's business.

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Originally Posted by WittyUserName (Post 1477206)
So, I am new to the whole pipe thing but looking to pick up a couple corn cobs and some tobacco. I guess my question would be, is there a "starter kit" (pipe, tool, cleaners, tobacco) that can be purchased somewhere. I am limited to online purchases only for the pip itself. The NEX here sells some pipe tobacco, the normal super market/right aid stuff. Thank you in advance for the advice and direction. Also, I will do my best to never say the dirty "P" word.

Personally, the "normal super market/right aid stuff" is (in my own opinion) substandard tobacco and should be avoided. Most of it gives me tongue bite like nobody's business. I don't know, but I'd guess that if you go to http://www.pipesandcigars.com/ and then call them after looking some stuff over, that they'd fix you up a "starter kit" to you specifications.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

ApexAZ 11-20-2011 06:02 PM

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Has anyone tried the forever stems? If there was one thing I could do about my cob, it would be to reduce the amount of draw it has.

I'm wondering if these would sove this:

http://www.walkerbriarworks.com/html...er__stems.html

Emjaysmash 11-20-2011 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexAZ (Post 1480329)
Has anyone tried the forever stems? If there was one thing I could do about my cob, it would be to reduce the amount of draw it has.

I'm wondering if these would sove this:

http://www.walkerbriarworks.com/html...er__stems.html

I've heard many good reviews of the Briar works stems. I would say go for it!

coty 11-22-2011 05:59 PM

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So question for the nut house pipe smokers, an older gentle made stuck in his was smokes Tampa sweets Cherwoods he finaly broke today and ask me to find him a pipe blend that taste the same any suggestions

Mister Moo 11-22-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1482347)
So question for the nut house pipe smokers, an older gentle made stuck in his was smokes Tampa sweets Cherwoods he finaly broke today and ask me to find him a pipe blend that taste the same any suggestions

Prince Albert Vanilla Cavendish - http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_...PHA=P&TID=1934

coty 11-22-2011 08:00 PM

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thank you Mr. Moo will have to try that

coty 11-30-2011 04:00 AM

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Da vinci is a tobacco I have recently tried and feel in love with It has a noticable chianti in it. I am looking for a pipe tobacco that has a strong chianti taste to it and has a little more strength to it because although great, the Di Vinci is like smoking air.

RevSmoke 11-30-2011 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by coty (Post 1488133)
Da vinci is a tobacco I have recently tried and feel in love with It has a noticable chianti in it. I am looking for a pipe tobacco that has a strong chianti taste to it and has a little more strength to it because although great, the Di Vinci is like smoking air.

Sorry, cannot help. Tried the DaVinci once, hated the "chianti" taste/smell and have tried to avoid anything even remotely like it. Although, I do not believe I have ever encounted anything that resembles it in taste.

I'd contact Cornell & Diehl, call them and talk to Patti Tarler, ask if they have anything that is similar. Their aromatic would be clearner and less fill with PG than DaVinci. Here's the link to look stuff up. http://www.cornellanddiehl.com/oldindex.html
Hope this helps.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Emjaysmash 12-26-2011 12:31 PM

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Here's a question for you pipe folks. I have a very nice Meerschaum Billiard that was gifted to me from one of the members here. I have this fear that if I went to go smoke it outside in freezing temperatures, it might crack. Is the an irrational fear? Can I take her out in sub-freezing temps? Thanks.

Zanaspus 12-26-2011 03:32 PM

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I don't own a meer, but from reading several stories on several fora, I'd say you fear is very real and by no means irrational.

ApexAZ 01-02-2012 01:30 PM

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What are some pros and cons to smoking meerschaum pipes?

I was looking at these: http://www.marscigars.com/meerschaum.aspx

Old Man Army 01-17-2012 10:56 AM

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I'm still trying to get the hang of smoking a pipe. Yesterday was my first successful use of a tamper to keep the pipe lite. My problem is, when I get to about half a bowl the pipe starts to get condensation in the bottom of the bowl and stem. What should I do to address the issue?

Best regards,
Andrew

Commander Quan 01-17-2012 11:41 AM

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Pass a pipe cleaner down through the stem and into the bowl. If it is a straight pipe this should be easily done, if the pipe is bent, it may take some finagling, twisting, turning, and pushing, to get it down there.

Mister Moo 01-17-2012 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Man Army (Post 1533023)
I'm still trying to get the hang of smoking a pipe. ...when I get to about half a bowl the pipe starts to get condensation in the bottom of the bowl and stem. What should I do to address the issue?

Best regards,
Andrew

Smoke filled half bowls until you do get the hang of it. :sl







:wo

Old Man Army 01-17-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander Quan (Post 1533068)
Pass a pipe cleaner down through the stem and into the bowl. If it is a straight pipe this should be easily done, if the pipe is bent, it may take some finagling, twisting, turning, and pushing, to get it down there.

My pipe is one of the Kaywoodie pipes with the weird ball-ended contraption on the end of the stem. Should I attempt to cut it off?

Old Man Army 01-17-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo (Post 1533223)
Smoke filled half bowls until you do get the hang of it. :sl







:wo

Thanks for the advice, I'll try that next time. Tonight I smoked a cigar instead-(P

Nick 01-17-2012 11:51 PM

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I suppose you could try to cut it off as that probaly is the root of your problems. Not really sure why kaywoodie insists on putting those damns stingers in there. Thats the only reason why I dont have one

RevSmoke 01-18-2012 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Man Army (Post 1533433)
My pipe is one of the Kaywoodie pipes with the weird ball-ended contraption on the end of the stem. Should I attempt to cut it off?

I thought those screwed out of the stem? Have you tried that?

Emjaysmash 01-18-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1533703)
I thought those screwed out of the stem? Have you tried that?

:tpd:

I always thought stingers twisted or could be pulled out.

Commander Quan 01-18-2012 07:03 AM

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Not on the Kaywoodies, the tenon has threads that screw into the mortise. Some of the stingers on other pipes can be pulled out, but the kaywoodie stingers are part of the bit.

If it is a new model Kaywoodie, I would cut it off below the threads. If it is a antique, you may want to leave in intact, as the older ones are somewhat collectable.

Old Man Army 01-18-2012 06:46 PM

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Thanks for the advice guys. The first thing I did was go to the tobbaco shop and get some decent tobbaco, Mac Baren Black Cavandish. Next I took a hack saw to the stinger and cut it off just below the threads. I loaded up half a bowl, with a pipe cleaner handy. First of all, the taste was much better than the Borkum Riff that I started out with; it didn't bite my tongue. When I noticed some condensation building up in the bowl I ran the pipe cleaner down the stem. Problem solved! I had a nice half-hour smoke.

One final question, I know with cigars most people reccomend taking a puff every minute or so. Is there a comparable rule of thumb for smoking a pipe, or should I make like Popeye and just puff away?

RevSmoke 01-18-2012 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Man Army (Post 1534368)
Thanks for the advice guys. The first thing I did was go to the tobbaco shop and get some decent tobbaco, Mac Baren Black Cavandish. Next I took a hack saw to the stinger and cut it off just below the threads. I loaded up half a bowl, with a pipe cleaner handy. First of all, the taste was much better than the Borkum Riff that I started out with; it didn't bite my tongue. When I noticed some condensation building up in the bowl I ran the pipe cleaner down the stem. Problem solved! I had a nice half-hour smoke.

One final question, I know with cigars most people reccomend taking a puff every minute or so. Is there a comparable rule of thumb for smoking a pipe, or should I make like Popeye and just puff away?

If you really want to taste the subtle nuances, "sip" your pipe. That's the best way I can describe it. If you puff away, you will get much more condensation and possibly burn your tongue.

But, you may not be susceptible to tongue bite.

Try some different things and see what happens.

Oh, this is a must. Smoke your pipe. When done with a bowl, run a pipe cleaner through it. Then let it sit for about 2 days before smoking it again, giving it time to dry out thoroughly.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

MarkinAZ 01-18-2012 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1534380)
Oh, this is a must. Smoke your pipe. When done with a bowl, run a pipe cleaner through it. Then let it sit for about 2 days before smoking it again, giving it time to dry out thoroughly.

Peace of the Lord be with you.


...and, where it pays to have a couple of extra pipes on hand while pipe #1 is airing out:tu


deadrise 01-19-2012 12:22 AM

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this is a great resource I went back to the beginning and started reading learned that tamping is key to staying lit.
I thought my Dr. Grabow was a bad pipe because it would not stay lit tamping fixed that
also that loose draw with little smoke problem I had again tamping fixed that also.
I actually enjoyed smoking my pipe tonight for the first time and got threw a whole bowl with out giving up on it :tu
I learned to load properly and no P word is used in this house any more concerning the pipe :D
I still got a long way to go still got to get me the basics tamper and cleaners (using roofing nail for now)
and I also learned why it took me 2 years to start using this pipe as all the tobacco I had was aero from Walgreen's
had the giaint bags of all the flavours and after 2 years just rolled up they are still moist :confused:
I got good backy from emjay and sterling and I am glad I have finaly figured out how to use it properly and enjoy it.
so basically THANK YOU OLD FARTS!!!!! :pn
:l

Mister Moo 01-19-2012 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deadrise (Post 1534659)
I learned to load properly and no P word is used in this house any more concerning the pipe :D

Ah HAH! :tu

Old Man Army 01-19-2012 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1534380)
If you really want to taste the subtle nuances, "sip" your pipe. That's the best way I can describe it. If you puff away, you will get much more condensation and possibly burn your tongue.

But, you may not be susceptible to tongue bite.

Try some different things and see what happens.

Oh, this is a must. Smoke your pipe. When done with a bowl, run a pipe cleaner through it. Then let it sit for about 2 days before smoking it again, giving it time to dry out thoroughly.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Thanks for the advice. I haven't gotten tongue bite with this new tobbacco, but I'll try sipping it. I must say I enjoy smoking a pipe, so now that things are going well I'll probably pick up another one.

schollianmj 01-20-2012 07:57 PM

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I definately get a lot more flavor from sipping. but I still give it a couple good puffs every now and again. sadly I tend to sip or whatever every 20 seconds or so. more often if I really like the baccy!

as to letting the pipe dry out.... Hmmm... I have two pipes. a ben Wade and a basket pipe that smokes like a gurgling baffoon. i tend to smoke two or three bowls a day. and mostly out of my ben wade. sounds like you just gave me a reason to get another pipe of 20... :)

DaBear 01-20-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by schollianmj (Post 1536371)
I definately get a lot more flavor from sipping. but I still give it a couple good puffs every now and again. sadly I tend to sip or whatever every 20 seconds or so. more often if I really like the baccy!

as to letting the pipe dry out.... Hmmm... I have two pipes. a ben Wade and a basket pipe that smokes like a gurgling baffoon. i tend to smoke two or three bowls a day. and mostly out of my ben wade. sounds like you just gave me a reason to get another pipe of 20... :)

Stock up on some cobs. As many will agree, cobs can be some of the best smoking pipes out there once broken in. I love my cob that I picked up last spring, thing smokes like a champ, but I'm holdin out hope for the new one I picked up last week as it still needs some breaking in.

The glory of a cob is they're perfect for travel, you break one its not a big deal, its ~$8 to replace depending on where you get it from. Same with burning them out, they're great for smoking on in between nights for your briars. I have 4 pipes, 2 cobs and 2 briars, and the cobs tend to see about 2-3 times the action my briars do combined.

RevSmoke 01-20-2012 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1536408)
Stock up on some cobs. As many will agree, cobs can be some of the best smoking pipes out there once broken in. I love my cob that I picked up last spring, thing smokes like a champ, but I'm holdin out hope for the new one I picked up last week as it still needs some breaking in.

The glory of a cob is they're perfect for travel, you break one its not a big deal, its ~$8 to replace depending on where you get it from. Same with burning them out, they're great for smoking on in between nights for your briars. I have 4 pipes, 2 cobs and 2 briars, and the cobs tend to see about 2-3 times the action my briars do combined.

Good advice about the cobs. Really they are decent smokes. Get rid of the tampon inside that they come with and they smoke much better.

Emjaysmash 01-20-2012 09:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1536426)
Get rid of the tampon inside that they come with and they smoke much better.

That's what she said.

DaBear 01-20-2012 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1536426)
Good advice about the cobs. Really they are decent smokes. Get rid of the tampon inside that they come with and they smoke much better.

Aaaaaaand now I'm really tempted to walk into work on Sunday, find the box of Medico filters and make a label to put over top the logo reading "Feminine Products" :r:r:r

RevSmoke 01-20-2012 10:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1536426)
Good advice about the cobs. Really they are decent smokes. Get rid of the tampon inside that they come with and they smoke much better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 1536467)
Aaaaaaand now I'm really tempted to walk into work on Sunday, find the box of Medico filters and make a label to put over top the logo reading "Feminine Products" :r:r:r

Sorry, all they do is soak up moisture, expand as they do, and they never really dry out - simply impeding the smoke flow more and more. They are the greatest hindrance to making a cob smoke well.

Phil Lausafee 01-29-2012 06:47 AM

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Is that the same as the wood filter that comes in my Savanelli? I'm having a particularly hard time keeping it lit and I wonder if that is one of the factors.

RevSmoke 01-29-2012 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Lausafee (Post 1543741)
Is that the same as the wood filter that comes in my Savanelli? I'm having a particularly hard time keeping it lit and I wonder if that is one of the factors.

The wood filters are not the same. Although, I'd get rid of them also. Unrestricted air flow will help some to keep it lit. There may also be other factors... you bowl fill/pack, your initial light/tamp procedure to get your intial burn, your puffing habits.

Phil Lausafee 01-31-2012 11:07 AM

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I took out the wood filter and it definitely improved the overall smoking experience. I could feel the bowl and how I needed to either fill it more or pat it down more. I only needed to relight twice which for me... was a score.

RevSmoke 01-31-2012 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Lausafee (Post 1545509)
I took out the wood filter and it definitely improved the overall smoking experience. I could feel the bowl and how I needed to either fill it more or pat it down more. I only needed to relight twice which for me... was a score.

Glad that suggestion worked for you.

Enjoy your smoke.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Thrak 02-07-2012 06:30 AM

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How do you know when the pipe is done? For ex. last night I was on the porch reading and it was quite dark even w/ the light on. It would go out and then I'd light it back up. But I was never sure when the tobacco was done... when I dumped it out I still had a tiny bit left.

Commander Quan 02-07-2012 08:20 AM

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There usually will be a little bit of unburnt tobacco int he bottom of the pipe. It's not something to worry about. Moisture can collect in the bottom preventing it from burning up, and the drilling of the pipe can also effect how well it burns the last bit. If it's only a small amount, you're not doing anything wrong.

Thrak 02-07-2012 09:13 AM

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What if you keep trying to light it? Could you damage the bottom of the pipe?

Commander Quan 02-07-2012 09:55 AM

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If you are too aggressively trying to get the last bit of tobacco to burn, you'll burn your tongue before you burn the pipe.

Blak Smyth 02-07-2012 11:41 AM

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How can I sterilize a used pipe?

Thrak 02-07-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1552144)
How can I sterilize a used pipe?

I use 91% isopropyl alcohol, a q-tip, cotton swap and pipe cleaners. :banger

Blak Smyth 02-07-2012 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrak (Post 1552166)
I use 91% isopropyl alcohol , a q-tip, cotton swap and pipe cleaners. :banger

You can put the 91% isopropyl alcohol directly onto all surfaces?

Zanaspus 02-07-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth (Post 1552167)
You can put the 91% isopropyl alcohol directly onto all surfaces?

Not on the outside of the bowl, unless you're prepared to refinish the pipe. Everything else, yep. If toxicity is your concern, it evaporates quicky enough that this isn't a problem, though I prefer to use drinkable high-test stuff.

RevSmoke 02-07-2012 12:44 PM

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Do not, repeat, do not us isopropyl alcohol. That stuff does nasty things to briar, so the next time you smoke it, you can crack your pipe. Doesn't happen all the time, but... It will also whiten vulcanite stems.

Get yourself some Everclear, grain alcohol.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

RevSmoke 02-07-2012 12:47 PM

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In fact, I do believe there was a post somewhere in this thread about pipe cleaning/sterilizing.

Thrak 02-07-2012 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke (Post 1552188)
Do not, repeat, do not us isopropyl alcohol. That stuff does nasty things to briar, so the next time you smoke it, you can crack your pipe. Doesn't happen all the time, but... It will also whiten vulcanite stems.

Get yourself some Everclear, grain alcohol.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Yeah I dont put it on the wood, just the stem, then after it airs out for a while I put a light coat of olive oil on for 10mins, then wipe dry.

trendo 02-17-2012 10:48 PM

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Hi guys, thanks for all the great information. I tried pipe smoking a couple of years ago....got a grabow and some cornel and diehl. I was having problems keeping it lit, I used the loading technique listed here, but i suspect the tobacco was too wet. I found the tobacco in a closet the other day and was thinking of giving it another shot. I had two questions.....is the tobacco still good? It was in its original container for the past two years, it has a lid, but it has been opened in the past. Second, I understand that you should not store pipe tobak in a humid enviorment, I live in hawaii and the RH inside my house varies from 65 to 75 percent. Will my tobacco always be to wet?

Thanks guys, sorry if the humidity thing has already been brought up, I looked through a bunch of pages and didnt see anything.

Commander Quan 02-18-2012 05:04 AM

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Troy the tobacco is probably fine. You can try drying the tobacco out by laying out a bowls worth and putting it under a desk lamp, or goose neck lamp. Let it go for 10 minutes, and then check it every 5hour after that.

trendo 02-21-2012 06:58 PM

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Thanks for all the help guys. I made an attempt at the pipe again, loaded it in accordance to the forum, and did a first and second light. There was very little smoke production, and unless I was tamping on every draw, it would go out within a couple of puffs. Also, the bowl sounded like I was frying bacon in it. I imagine the frying sound was the tobacco being too wet, so I put some in the fridge for about 5 hours (I don't have a lamp). This time the sound was gone, but I still cannot keep it lit for more than a few puffs, with very little smoke production. Finally I gave up and lit a cigar.

Any Ideas guys?

Thanks in advance


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