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-MG- 04-03-2009 08:40 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 318358)
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks


I've carried my G27 almost daily for the last 3 years in 'The Answer' from Tucker Gunleather using the velcrow clips, and couldn't be happier. Even taking 7hr drives to see the inlaws, it stays perfectly comfortable.

floydpink 04-03-2009 08:43 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 318092)
Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.


That's exactly how I felt putting the Crimson Trace 405 grips on my 38 special, but now would get rid of the gun before I got rid of the laser grips. They cost me $300 and the J frame snubbie was not much more.

I thought about putting a light on my Mossberg 500, but figure it will broadcast where I am at in the unfortunate event it comes off the rack in the middle of the night, overriding the benefit of target ID.

Catfish 04-03-2009 09:41 AM

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If you're wantig to stay more budget, I highly recommend the light I personally carry, the Surefire G2 LED. You can get the from the gunshows for $45.

I only mentioned the L4 because I personally want one.

Catfish 04-03-2009 09:42 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 318358)
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks

I personally use Thunderwear for when I wear soft clothes ( jogging pants ) and SERPA for anything with a belt.

stitch 04-03-2009 11:05 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 318358)
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks

Uhhmmm you could check out my site :rolleyes:
http://www.mountainhomeleather.com
I also do a snap on model which isn't on the site yet

Tombstone 04-03-2009 11:11 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 318516)
I personally use Thunderwear for when I wear soft clothes ( jogging pants ) and SERPA for anything with a belt.

The serpa....do you have a problem consealing the firearm with this style of holster? Any close calls? Thanks

bobarian 04-03-2009 11:47 AM

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In the last month I picked my first guns in over 25 years. AR-15, 16" barrel, A-4 lightweight build. And a Ruger 10/22 as I need something I can actually shoot while I search endlessly for .223 ammo at a decent price. :r

BC-Axeman 04-03-2009 12:00 PM

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Speaking of ammo at decent prices, where is a good source of bulk components? I mean, where does anybody have stock? "Out of Stock, Backorder OK?" Sheez!

Catfish 04-03-2009 01:11 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 318642)
The serpa....do you have a problem consealing the firearm with this style of holster? Any close calls? Thanks

I'm 6'2" @ 300lbs. I can conceal an Abrahms tank. When used with belt securement, it does tend to stick out a little more laterally from the body than an IWB holster. I counter that by wearing a photographer's vest. There is no threat of printing with that. It's when I wear my rayon summer shirts that are just like silk I have to be very cognizant of printing. In many cases, I will go to the Thunderwear when that could be an issue.

AriesOpusX 04-03-2009 03:36 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 318092)
Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.


Go to walmart and get a mini maglite or any bright LED flashlight, strap it/duct tape it to the gun and be done with it for about $20. All you need is something to see with and you can easily flip a switch or push a button as you grab the gun to turn the light on, I don't know why they sell $300 flashlights to anyone besides members of SWAT.

Tube extention is great for the range definitely but in my house if I need more than 5 slugs I'd better call for backup. ;)

BamBam 04-03-2009 04:50 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I am considering buying a KelTec 9mm pistol to carry concealed.

http://www.keltecpistols.com/item/49..._10RD_BLU.aspx

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with this gun?

icehog3 04-03-2009 04:53 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo

Gotta love Ted. :)

elderboy02 04-03-2009 05:48 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 318642)
The serpa....do you have a problem consealing the firearm with this style of holster? Any close calls? Thanks

I have one and it sticks out a little. I don't care if someone sees my gun. Open carry is legal here as well. Even if you open carried, most people aren't looking for a gun anyway. :2 Your mileage may vary

elderboy02 04-03-2009 05:50 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 319160)
I am considering buying a KelTec 9mm pistol to carry concealed.

http://www.keltecpistols.com/item/49..._10RD_BLU.aspx

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with this gun?

I had one and I didn't like it. I sold it to my brother. I had problems with it chambering a round. I sent it back to Kel-Tec where they did the "fluff and buff" treatment to it. It still didn't solve the problem.

I have a S&W 442 J-Frame revolver (same as the 642, just a different color) and I love it. Revolvers go bang pretty much every time.

BamBam 04-03-2009 06:04 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 319237)
I had one and I didn't like it. I sold it to my brother. I had problems with it chambering a round. I sent it back to Kel-Tec where they did the "fluff and buff" treatment to it. It still didn't solve the problem.

I have a S&W 442 J-Frame revolver (same as the 642, just a different color) and I love it. Revolvers go bang pretty much every time.

Yeah I got a S&W .38 cal 637 Airweight that I carry in a leg holster for that very reason (goin' bang everytime). I also have a Glock 27 I carry in a belt holster when I'm gonna somewhere a lil more "shady".

I just want a semi-auto that's a lil more compact than a Glock 27. Easier to pocket carry. The one I'm gonna buy is used, but it is from a buddy. It is the Kel Tec 9mm P11 model.

elderboy02 04-03-2009 06:05 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 319251)
Yeah I got a S&W .38 cal 637 Airweight that I carry in a leg holster for that very reason (goin' bang everytime). I also have a Glock 27 I carry in a belt holster when I'm gonna somewhere a lil more "shady".

I just want a semi-auto that's a lil more compact than a Glock 27. Easier to pocket carry. The one I'm gonna buy is used, but it is from a buddy. It is the Kel Tec 9mm P11 model.

Yeah, I had the P11. I would carefully inspect it before you buy it. Just make sure it can chamber rounds flawlessly. If that is fine, buy it :tu

BamBam 04-03-2009 06:07 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 319253)
Yeah, I had the P11. I would carefully inspect it before you buy it. Just make sure it can chamber rounds flawlessly. If that is fine, buy it :tu

Thanks Dan :tu

floydpink 04-03-2009 06:31 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 319160)
I am considering buying a KelTec 9mm pistol to carry concealed.

http://www.keltecpistols.com/item/49..._10RD_BLU.aspx

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with this gun?

Bambam, trust me, DO NOT BUY A KEL TEC P11

I had one and they are notorious for needing lots of work before they are trustworthy.

They are indeed the lightest 9mm made and have a loyal following, but are notorious for misfeeds and failure to feeds and need to have the feedramp polished and lots of other gunsmithing done.

I put 300 rounds through mine and traded it in and wouldn't use another for much more than a paperweight and certainly wouldn't trust that thing with my life.

The single stack P3AT, I think it's called, is supposedly better, but when you pull the 9 pound painful trigger on a Kel Tec, it sounds like a Coke can opening. They trigger shoe helps a little, and the magazine extender lets you get more than 2 fingers on the grips, but the feedramp on Kel Tecs is famous for being horrible.

I gave mine lots of chances, dremelled the feedramp, polished it, and did the "fluff and buff" to the note, and still had at least one misfeed every 10 rounds, even with Federal rounds.

Tombstone 04-03-2009 08:26 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 319251)
Yeah I got a S&W .38 cal 637 Airweight that I carry in a leg holster for that very reason (goin' bang everytime). I also have a Glock 27 I carry in a belt holster when I'm gonna somewhere a lil more "shady".

I just want a semi-auto that's a lil more compact than a Glock 27. Easier to pocket carry. The one I'm gonna buy is used, but it is from a buddy. It is the Kel Tec 9mm P11 model.

BamBam what type of holster do you have for your 642? Thanks

Tombstone 04-04-2009 09:12 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 319164)

:tpd: Perfect:tu

TheRiddick 04-05-2009 11:39 AM

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What's a good price for AK-47 and what is the preferred place of manufacture?

TheRiddick 04-05-2009 05:38 PM

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Anyone know anything about this? Just got an email from a friend and not dure how real this is:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45.IH:

Sounds pretty bad if it passes.

BamBam 04-05-2009 06:18 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 319474)
BamBam what type of holster do you have for your 642? Thanks

My ankle holster is a DeSantis and my belt holster is from this company called http://www.shado.com/

I really like Desantis and wish I would have went with them on the belt holster. The one I have from Shado has no retention screw so it makes me nervous. Nice lether holster and it holds it securely and all, I just like the security I feel with a retention screw. Was just trying to save a few bucks. :rolleyes:

If you ask me Desantis is the way to go. :tu

stitch 04-05-2009 06:36 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 321950)
Anyone know anything about this? Just got an email from a friend and not dure how real this is:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45.IH:

Sounds pretty bad if it passes.

This bill has been introduced into the house every year since the early 90's
It never gets any co-sponsors ( like it has none now ) and never even gets heard in commite ... lets hope it stays that way.

white_s2k 04-05-2009 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 319164)

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."

Ted rocks :tu

Tombstone 04-05-2009 08:48 PM

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While carrying my S&W J-frame 642 i constantly worry about the firearm falling out of my IWB holster. Does anyone else have this issue?

Junior 04-05-2009 09:04 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 318092)
Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.

Put a surefire G2 on it. That is what I have on mine. As far as ammo. I would suggest the Remington 00 Buck Low Recoil. I would put a side saddle on it asap or at least get one of those that slide on the stock to hold extra rounds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stitch (Post 315780)
Ok, I'll join in on this one!
Hand guns,
Daily Carry, Springfield Lightweight Compact 1911 .45ACP
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4408/carryg.jpg

Cowpokin gun, Ruger Vaquero SA 45 Long Colt.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7/cowpokin.jpg

Nice Springfield I have one that I carry almost everyday in the winter.

I also have a pair of Stainless 357 Vaqueros. They are great, and easy to slick up work on. Is it a new or old model?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 319160)
I am considering buying a KelTec 9mm pistol to carry concealed.

http://www.keltecpistols.com/item/49..._10RD_BLU.aspx

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with this gun?

Stay away far away. My little brother had one and it was a jamamatic. I wouldn't trust my life with it. I would suggest a 5 shot 38 Revolver.

elderboy02 04-05-2009 10:06 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 322332)
While carrying my S&W J-frame 642 i constantly worry about the firearm falling out of my IWB holster. Does anyone else have this issue?

I carry mine in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. I have a Don Hume IWB holster for my 442, but I don't carry it IWB often, b/c it is so easy to slip in my pocket.

357 04-06-2009 05:24 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRiddick (Post 321456)
What's a good price for AK-47 and what is the preferred place of manufacture?

If I remember right, the WASRs are made in the US and can be bought new. I may be mistaken as the AK isn't my field of expertise.

357 04-06-2009 05:30 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_s2k
"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."

Ted rocks :tu

Ted Nugent has done more to support the 2nd Amendment than most will ever know. I don't always agree 100% with his political platforms, but probably 98%. I used to frequent his web forum. He posts there frequently. He was even kicking around the idea of running for governor in Michigan, even though he's been living in Texas for a few years. He'd have my vote. Just about anyone would be better than the Canadian "beauty queen" we have now.

floydpink 04-06-2009 08:50 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 322332)
While carrying my S&W J-frame 642 i constantly worry about the firearm falling out of my IWB holster. Does anyone else have this issue?

I had a Desantis Nemesis also but recently switched to a Mika Holster which is perfect.

floydpink 04-06-2009 08:52 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior (Post 322352)
Put a surefire G2 on it. That is what I have on mine. As far as ammo. I would suggest the Remington 00 Buck Low Recoil. I would put a side saddle on it asap or at least get one of those that slide on the stock to hold extra rounds.



Nice Springfield I have one that I carry almost everyday in the winter.

I also have a pair of Stainless 357 Vaqueros. They are great, and easy to slick up work on. Is it a new or old model?



Stay away far away. My little brother had one and it was a jamamatic. I wouldn't trust my life with it. I would suggest a 5 shot 38 Revolver
.


Perfect advice there and what I should have done in the first place like my brother suggested, who is a cop.

A smith 642 snubbie is nearly as light as the Kel Tec anyway and has a way nice trigger, and I am not aware of a more carried ccw by people who can carry anything and want something light and reliable.
Again, I gave the Kel Tec every opportunity to come around but it never failed to keep on failing.

Stig 04-06-2009 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 319164)

I think Ted is too reserved, he needs to speak out more and say what is really on his mind.

Junior 04-07-2009 10:43 PM

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Here is my Cimarron 1866 38spl. It has been slicked up, and a short stroke kit put in it. It is smoth as silk, and faster than me. It lookes no where near that good now with all the black powder shot out of it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...or897/1866.jpg

I will have to get some pics of my original Winchester 1897 take down shotgun blowing some black powder smoke.

elderboy02 04-08-2009 04:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior (Post 325876)
Here is my Cimarron 1866 38spl. It has been slicked up, and a short stroke kit put in it. It is smoth as silk, and faster than me. It lookes no where near that good now with all the black powder shot out of it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...or897/1866.jpg

I will have to get some pics of my original Winchester 1897 take down shotgun blowing some black powder smoke.

Very nice! :tu

JE3146 04-08-2009 07:19 PM

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I was notified today by one of my groomsmen that my wedding gift was a little earlier than expected. Due to the gun rush, he bought it when he saw it and had to ruin the surprise, because he needed me to go do the background check.

So..... I found out what's coming. It's small, it's black and it makes a lot of noise. :r

I'll post pics next week when it arrives in the shop. I'm a little anxious. :dr

WildBlueSooner 04-08-2009 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 327267)
I was notified today by one of my groomsmen that my wedding gift was a little earlier than expected. Due to the gun rush, he bought it when he saw it and had to ruin the surprise, because he needed me to go do the background check.

So..... I found out what's coming. It's small, it's black and it makes a lot of noise. :r

I'll post pics next week when it arrives in the shop. I'm a little anxious. :dr

wow that is a killer gift!

Cigarcop 04-08-2009 07:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 327267)
I was notified today by one of my groomsmen that my wedding gift was a little earlier than expected. Due to the gun rush, he bought it when he saw it and had to ruin the surprise, because he needed me to go do the background check.

So..... I found out what's coming. It's small, it's black and it makes a lot of noise. :r

I'll post pics next week when it arrives in the shop. I'm a little anxious. :dr

Although I prefer my noise makers a bit longer!!! its sounds like you picked the right guy to be in the wedding :tu

icehog3 04-08-2009 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner (Post 327272)
wow that is a killer gift!

Let's hope not. ;) :r

elderboy02 04-09-2009 04:59 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JE3146 (Post 327267)
I was notified today by one of my groomsmen that my wedding gift was a little earlier than expected. Due to the gun rush, he bought it when he saw it and had to ruin the surprise, because he needed me to go do the background check.

So..... I found out what's coming. It's small, it's black and it makes a lot of noise. :r

I'll post pics next week when it arrives in the shop. I'm a little anxious. :dr

Very nice! :tu

My guess is that it will be a S&W 442 J-Frame ;)

floydpink 04-09-2009 08:07 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 327794)
Very nice! :tu

My guess is that it will be a S&W 442 J-Frame ;)

Nice! Can't go wrong with one of those.

JE3146 04-09-2009 08:21 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 327794)
Very nice! :tu

My guess is that it will be a S&W 442 J-Frame ;)

Not quite :)

Stig 04-09-2009 09:13 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
So where do I pick up one of these?

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?...eature=related

Catfish 04-09-2009 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig (Post 328157)
So where do I pick up one of these?

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?...eature=related

Linky no worky :bh

Stig 04-09-2009 09:39 AM

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Try it now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhstuvzMiB0

replicant_argent 04-09-2009 09:40 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I'm doing some shopping now and need something a tich smaller (for "standard" reasons) than the G17, anyone have a PPS or XD40 or 45 compact? PM if you prefer.

Stig 04-09-2009 09:50 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by replicant_argent (Post 328194)
I'm doing some shopping now and need something a tich smaller (for "standard" reasons) than the G17, anyone have a PPS or XD40 or 45 compact? PM if you prefer.

I tried the Kimber 1911 45 with the 4" barrel last week and it was nice and conceilable.

replicant_argent 04-09-2009 09:53 AM

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and about another $400. ;)
Kimbers are nice, I like to look at them, my wallet cringes.

Stig 04-09-2009 09:58 AM

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Mine cringes too but I think that I may have to suck it up eventualy and get one.

Catfish 04-09-2009 10:34 AM

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A Kimber Tac Pro II is in my near future.


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