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CigarSquid 10-14-2012 08:47 AM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1732904)
Glad to see the Tigers "pull" this one out after Valverde blows another one. Hate to see Jeter get hurt...the ONLY Yankee I have ever admired.

Jeter seems like a good guy.. I hate him for the fact he is a Yankee, but a great ball player.. Never to much trouble. I don't mind Swisher, since he once was a A's

kelmac07 10-14-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1732905)
Sucks for Jeter. I know how I am for softball.. and to miss games, let alone the playoffs!

How much you think it affects the Yankees?

Seeing how Jeter, Ichiro and Ibanez have been the only consistent performers this postseason...it's a HUGE blow to the Yankees. A-Rod, Granderson and Texiera are gonna have to step it up if the Yankees are gonna win this series.

CigarSquid 10-14-2012 08:52 AM

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A-Rod... haha. Good one.

icehog3 10-14-2012 10:48 AM

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Press in Detroit is calling for a new closer for the Tigers. Valverde has given up the last 7 runs against the Tigers, all with a Tigers' lead in the 9th innings.

CigarSquid 10-14-2012 10:50 AM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1732973)
Press in Detroit is calling for a new closer for the Tigers. Valverde has given up the last 7 runs against the Tigers, all with a Tigers' lead in the 9th innings.

I agree.

Or, just do this.. see if it works... :gary

icehog3 10-14-2012 11:02 AM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garryyjr (Post 1732976)
I agree.

Or, just do this.. see if it works... :gary

Yup, if the managing stays the same and the Tigers' bullpen blows this series, Leyland might get one of those from Dombrowski and Illitch. :2

gorob23 10-14-2012 12:10 PM

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Let's Go Giants..... :tu

Rob ;s

CigarSquid 10-14-2012 01:32 PM

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I want to see Cards and Tigers.

icehog3 10-14-2012 01:39 PM

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ESPN.com:

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NEW YORK -- Jose Valverde won't close for the Detroit Tigers in Game 2 of the AL Championship Series but manager Jim Leyland says the reliever is keeping his role for now.

"I guess that sounds like I am mud watching, but I am really not. I still consider him the closer, but he will not close the game," Leyland said. "We will do some work with him."

CigarSquid 10-14-2012 05:37 PM

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I missed the Tigers/Yankees game today.. Watching some of the replays.. WOW is all I can say.

Now, Lets go Cards!

kelmac07 10-14-2012 06:01 PM

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This might be a quick series.

theonlybear4CORT 10-14-2012 07:07 PM

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Lets go Oakland oh wait they ain't playing :p

LET'S GO GIANTS THE ONLY BAY AREA TEAM STILL PLAYING.

CigarSquid 10-14-2012 07:17 PM

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We will see for how long...

kelmac07 10-14-2012 08:08 PM

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Looks like poetic justice for the Cards tonight...blowing a 6-0 lead an all.

CigarSquid 10-14-2012 08:11 PM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1733281)
Looks like poetic justice for the Cards tonight...blowing a 6-0 lead an all.

I was just talking with the wife about that.

688sonarmen 10-14-2012 08:23 PM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kelmac07 (Post 1733281)
Looks like poetic justice for the Cards tonight...blowing a 6-0 lead an all.

Beltran is still in the game, nothing is blown yet.

icehog3 10-15-2012 12:36 AM

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Best angle yet of the Infante - Cano play at 2nd base:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JIHAzU5ylc

If the Yankees had scored a run, it would have been a travesty.,.instead, it's just a footnote. Great pitching by Sanchez and Coke sealed the 2-0 series lead.

Looking forward to seeing JV pitch on Tuesday.

jonumberone 10-15-2012 06:27 AM

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I'm not going to complain about the play a second.
Yes it was a bad call, and yes, it changed the dynamic of the game,
but when your team can't score a run, who cares about a bad call at second?

I've never been more disgusted with this ball club, than I was yesterday!
You would think they would want to go out there and win one for their captain, who more than likely picked each and everyone of their sorry asses up when they failed.
Or perhaps they would want to go out and score a run or two to support their teammate Kuroda, who was pitching his heart out, on short rest, for the first time in his career.
Or maybe you would think they would want to go out and score some runs because they had a tiny bit of self respect and competitiveness left inside them.
I don't want to knock Sanchez, he pitched a great game, but he's not Verlander.
The Yanks are certainly talented enough to hit him.
Instead they go out and look like lost children out there, and Girardi, after the game, came off like a whiny little school girl.

VirtualSmitty 10-15-2012 06:42 AM

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Almost all of the Yankees post season batting averages make me cry. Maybe they aren't being paid enough?

icehog3 10-15-2012 11:22 AM

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Obviously I am rooting for the Tigers, Dom and Joe, but I take no pleasure from the individual struggles of the Yankees offense.

OK, maybe ARod a little. ;) But it pains me to see Granderson and Cano struggling so badly.

357 10-15-2012 11:44 AM

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Heard a stat while watching game 2. Tigers starting pitchers combined ERA in the post-season is below 1.00.

:wo

Hope it keeps dropping. About Jeter, sad to see him hurt. He's one Yankee I actually don't hate, well him and Grandy. Wish both of them all the success in the world except when they're playing the Tigers.

MedicCook 10-15-2012 12:02 PM

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For the Yankees the series ended when Jeter broke his ankle. A-Rod has no heart and can't play in the clutch. Cano is becoming more like A-Rod when he should be more like Jeter. Too many Yankees look up to A-Rod as a team leader and that hurts the team. I really hope Cashman finds a team to trade him to this winter.
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icehog3 10-15-2012 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1733639)
Heard a stat while watching game 2. Tigers starting pitchers combined ERA in the post-season is below 1.00.

:wo

Yup...the other stat was:

Starting pitchers have given up 5 runs in their last 48+ innings.
Valverde has given up 7 runs in his last 2 1/3 innings....and the last 7 runs the Tigers have allowed.

357 10-15-2012 02:19 PM

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Yeah Papa Grande has been terrible. Talk is they may have found a mechanical flaw that they can address. Who knows. They said the same thing about Scherzer early in the season and since then he's been fantastic.

If they feel they've addressed it, he'll be back out there at some point.

icehog3 10-15-2012 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1733742)
Yeah Papa Grande has been terrible. Talk is they may have found a mechanical flaw that they can address. Who knows. They said the same thing about Scherzer early in the season and since then he's been fantastic.

If they feel they've addressed it, he'll be back out there at some point.

Hopefully 2013. ;)

357 10-16-2012 07:39 AM

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I'd bet money Valverde will be back out there this series. Leyland is too loyal, stubborn, and probably thinks he can't lose the roster spot in his bullpen by not playing him. It might not be in a save situation, but game 2 wasn't a save situation either.

CigarSquid 10-16-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1734198)
I'd bet money Valverde will be back out there this series. Leyland is too loyal, stubborn, and probably thinks he can't lose the roster spot in his bullpen by not playing him. It might not be in a save situation, but game 2 wasn't a save situation either.

I wouldn't.

jonumberone 10-16-2012 06:17 PM

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I want to first guess here!
NO way should Nunez and Chavez be in the line up!
Nunez should NEVER be in the field.
Pure panic move by Girardi!
He's sacrificing defense, and Hoping Nunez hits.
And he's hoping Chavez hits too, he's 0 for 11 with 6 strike outs.
Not exactly stinging the ball!!
IMO, he's better off running A rod out there, and hoping he comes around.
He can't win this series if the left side of the infield is Chavez and Nunez/Nix! :2

BHalbrooks 10-16-2012 07:38 PM

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Even though I'm from Michigan, I hate Detroit teams.... BUT I hope they crush the Yankees. 4-0.

icehog3 10-17-2012 12:53 AM

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Let's Go Tigers!! http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/sweeping.gif

icehog3 10-18-2012 04:41 PM

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/Scherzer.jpg

Looks like the Tigers are just waiting on the Cards and Giants to see who's next. ;)

68TriShield 10-18-2012 05:40 PM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1734690)

Tis done :D Congrats to all the Tigers fans!

the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!

icehog3 10-18-2012 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68TriShield (Post 1735586)
Tis done :D Congrats to all the Tigers fans!

the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!

:D :wnr

4 more to go, Dave!

BHalbrooks 10-18-2012 05:46 PM

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Yankees suck haha

Dave128 10-18-2012 05:46 PM

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Tigers win!! :)

icehog3 10-18-2012 06:09 PM

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Delmon Young is the ALCS MVP, first player in MLB history to have 4 game winning RBIs in a series.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...elmonYoung.png

kelmac07 10-18-2012 06:22 PM

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Can you say SWEEP?? Sorry Dom...couldn't resist. :D :D

CigarSquid 10-18-2012 06:55 PM

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The Yankees stunk it up!

icehog3 10-18-2012 07:50 PM

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I am hoping the Cards win in 5 now, so that they will have almost as much time off before the Series starts as the Tigers will.

icehog3 10-18-2012 11:56 PM

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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/WS2.png

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/WS3.png

jdakine 10-19-2012 04:26 AM

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Happy for the Tigers and hope the Cards get in for the fact that Pujols left for the money and they get back the World Series with out him.

688sonarmen 10-19-2012 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1735660)
I am hoping the Cards win in 5 now, so that they will have almost as much time off before the Series starts as the Tigers will.

Cards are on a roll but the Giants have a way of coming back. Good news is the Cards bullpen is rested a bit from last night and they showed with out a doubt it does not matter who is injured that there is enough depth in the farm system to compensate.

Congrats to the Tigers, it was good seeing Fielder and the boys partying a bit after the win:tu

theonlybear4CORT 10-19-2012 06:37 AM

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Well it was a nice run.

jonumberone 10-19-2012 06:56 AM

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Congrats to the Tigers, and Tom! :tu

I tend to think of myself as a pretty level headed Yankee fan.
I try not to get too excited when they're up, and remain calm when they're low.
Despite what the PR machine tells me, I don't consider "not winning the World series" a failure of a season.
All that said, this is a disaster!

I've seen the Yanks lose plenty of series.
I've been sad, discouraged, and disappointed by past performances.
They've let me down, and broken my heart.
But never have they infuriated me, like they did in this postseason!
From top to bottom, I've never seen a more gutless performance!

I've never liked Girardi, and his performance here was awful!
To try and lay this at the feet of A-rod, while continuing to give Cano, Swisher, and Grandy a reach around, makes me want to bite his face like Max Cady.
If you want to bench A-rod, to make a point, Fine, but he was never going to win this series, under any circumstances, with A-rod on the bench!
I have so much more to add, but the vein bulging out of my neck, is forcing me to step away from the keyboard!

Gophernut 10-19-2012 08:10 AM

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I agree Dom, it seems like the "experts" are trying to pin this on A-Rod. Well, as bad as he may have played, he didn't play in a couple games that they lost. How can you pin that on him? I don't really care for the Yankees, or the Tigers for that matter, but to say that this was anything other than a collective team loss, is crazy. Of course you have to give props to the Tigers for the excellent starting pitching, the timely hitting, and some solid defense. I don't see how any NL team is going to beat the Tigers at this point.

CRIMPS 10-19-2012 09:41 AM

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slow clap. Regardless of who Det faces... will be pulling for them.

357 10-19-2012 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gophernut (Post 1735811)
I agree Dom, it seems like the "experts" are trying to pin this on A-Rod. Well, as bad as he may have played, he didn't play in a couple games that they lost. How can you pin that on him? I don't really care for the Yankees, or the Tigers for that matter, but to say that this was anything other than a collective team loss, is crazy. Of course you have to give props to the Tigers for the excellent starting pitching, the timely hitting, and some solid defense. I don't see how any NL team is going to beat the Tigers at this point.

The national media is confounded, trying to figure out how the Yankees lost the series. They never can come to the idea that the Tigers WON and their pitching staff is really good. The Yankees pitching was pretty good overall; their offense chose not to show up. I think the Tigers holding on in game 1 and winning in the 12th dealt an emotional blow to the Yankees. If the Yankees win game 1, it's a different series.

BTW, the bolded statement was said in 2006 too. Not so thrilled with how that one worked out. This team is better than that one though IMO. Pitching is better and the middle of the lineup is better. Lineup 1-9 may not be quite what the '06 team was but overall a better team. What's sick is next year Delmon Young won't even be on the team. With V-Mart back as the DH, they won't need him. He's proven he can't play the field at all anymore. So, it wouldn't suprise me if the Tigers bench him in the NL park. It'll be him or Quentin Berry getting pined due to the Cards starters all being righties and no DH allowed. My bet is Leyland goes with the L-R matchup not Delmon due to his hot streak. At least that's been Leyland's leanings in the past anyway.

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Originally Posted by CRIMPS (Post 1735860)
slow clap. Regardless of who Det faces... will be pulling for them.

Pulling for the Tigers or their opponents?

CigarSquid 10-19-2012 01:15 PM

Re: MLB 2012 Thread
 
I do not care how or why the Yankee's lost.. I just love it!

CRIMPS 10-19-2012 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 1735925)

Pulling for the Tigers or their opponents?

Pulling for the Tigers.

Starscream 10-23-2012 09:36 AM

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Looks like an all orange WS this year. I'm pulling for Detroit. Even though I'm a big NL fan, this will be the third year in a row that I've rooted for an AL team in the WS.


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