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Catfish 03-26-2009 09:46 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floydpink (Post 304859)
.... that situational awareness and avoidance come first.

I give credit to Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch because I heard him say if first and soon thereafter read it in a book written by Massad Ayoob of the Lethal Force Institute :

The best fight is the one avoided.

elderboy02 03-26-2009 09:50 AM

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I really like Masaad Ayoob
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BC-Axeman 03-26-2009 09:59 AM

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If a person decides to threaten someone else's life then their own life is on the table. They have put their own life in as a stake in the gamble.
Now who is to say that if the perp had got the money and was leaving the scene when some innocent person happened to be in the way and got killed. If you had the chance to put the perp down and you didn't, wouldn't you feel bad?

Catfish 03-26-2009 10:01 AM

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I read, watch and listen to all I can from:

Mass. Ayoob, Clint Smith, Tiger McKee, Tom Gresham, the fine people at Gunsite, Rob Pincus at Valhalla, etc.

TheRealBonger 03-26-2009 10:39 AM

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My first gun ever, put on different grips. Gives my pinky a place to rest, and looks good. Added many since. :dance:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e.../MyPicture.jpg

elderboy02 03-26-2009 10:46 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealBonger (Post 305058)
My first gun ever, put on different grips. Gives my pinky a place to rest, adn looks good. Added many since. :dance:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e.../MyPicture.jpg

I like it! :tu

Tombstone 03-26-2009 12:05 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman (Post 305002)
If a person decides to threaten someone else's life then their own life is on the table. They have put their own life in as a stake in the gamble.
Now who is to say that if the perp had got the money and was leaving the scene when some innocent person happened to be in the way and got killed. If you had the chance to put the perp down and you didn't, wouldn't you feel bad?

:tpd::tu

Tombstone 03-26-2009 12:06 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I am thinking about getting some crimson trace lazers put on my S&W 642 j-Frame. Anyone have any experiance with them?

elderboy02 03-26-2009 12:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 305235)
I am thinking about getting some crimson trace lazers put on my S&W 642 j-Frame. Anyone have any experiance with them?

I have them on my Glock 23 and love them.

Tombstone 03-26-2009 01:02 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 305247)
I have them on my Glock 23 and love them.

Hmmmm...Should i put them on the J-frame or the S&W M&P .40?

floydpink 03-26-2009 01:12 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 305235)
I am thinking about getting some crimson trace lazers put on my S&W 642 j-Frame. Anyone have any experiance with them?

put em on my 642 a month ago and couldn't imagine NOT having them due to the crappy sights on the 642.

Pay the extra 100 bucks for the newer version though, as the older ones don't conceal as well nor have as nice of a button on the grips.

TheManWithNoName 03-26-2009 01:13 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 357 (Post 304612)
my next holster purchase will be a shoulder rig with a dual mag pouch on the opposite side. This is primarily for balancing the weight of the pistol but, the extra capacity doesn't hurt.

Cool, I was just looking at one like this on the Galco website, think they call it the "Miami Classic," looked nice. That brings up a good question:

What is everyone's preferred CC holster?

Kneo 03-26-2009 01:17 PM

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I am so proud of myself, I just bought my first hand gun

It is just small Hi-Point 9mm but it's my first. Going to take my class soon for PTC.

Tombstone 03-26-2009 02:08 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kneo (Post 305369)
I am so proud of myself, I just bought my first hand gun

It is just small Hi-Point 9mm but it's my first. Going to take my class soon for PTC.

Great decision to become a gun owner. Be safe.:tu

Catfish 03-26-2009 02:51 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheManWithNoName (Post 305364)
What is everyone's preferred CC holster?

I use a SERPA from Blackhawk for all weapons. The double retention feature is very comforting.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/pictur...pictureid=1698

Cigarcop 03-26-2009 03:05 PM

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Question for the AR guys???

What are your thoughts on the DPMS Mini SASS?

I maybe trading something for a slightly used one, it has a Rock River 2 stage Trigger, Magpul PRS Stock, Mark 4 6.5x20 Leupold, Badger Rings.

What do you guys think its worth in excellent condition?

Thanks

smokeyandthebandit05 03-26-2009 06:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 305533)
Question for the AR guys???

What are your thoughts on the DPMS Mini SASS?

I maybe trading something for a slightly used one, it has a Rock River 2 stage Trigger, Magpul PRS Stock, Mark 4 6.5x20 Leupold, Badger Rings.

What do you guys think its worth in excellent condition?

Thanks



Without knowing anything about the rifle and just seeing it I would say it goes for around 2000 to 2500 maybe 3000 at the most with all the high end extras

smokeyandthebandit05 03-26-2009 06:23 PM

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http://www.dpmsinc.com/@ssets/images...ini%20SASS.pdf





Look at this

pearson 03-26-2009 07:22 PM

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1600 for the rifle
scope is about 1400 with the rings.

it comes with a good trigger and the PRS so I would not take that in to account when thinking of price. but 2250 to 2750 MAX unless you are getting more then 2 mags.

ETA: just look out for UTG and CAA Items on there as they are low quality, and prone to failure.

Cigarcop 03-28-2009 06:47 PM

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Well I decided to make the trade and got the new toy.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9...D550/ry%3D400/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9...D550/ry%3D400/

bonjing 03-28-2009 08:53 PM

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Cigarcop, nice looking rifle . now get yourself a ton of mags and ammo :D. oh and another ar ;)

smokeyandthebandit05 03-28-2009 10:12 PM

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im sorry I need a new pair of pants now :jd

Catfish 03-29-2009 01:12 AM

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Brownell's apparently got a huuuuuuuuge shipment of AR mags. May wanna check that out.

elderboy02 03-29-2009 09:26 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 308867)
Brownell's apparently got a huuuuuuuuge shipment of AR mags. May wanna check that out.

Remember, if you have a C&R license, send it to Brownells and Midway USA. You then can get a discount.

Junior 03-29-2009 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elderboy02 (Post 309128)
Remember, if you have a C&R license, send it to Brownells and Midway USA. You then can get a discount.

My C&R has paid for it's self many times over. You also get a discount at Midway USA as well.

Mark C 04-01-2009 08:22 PM

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Picture time!
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4622601_n.jpg

Both Sig P6s, one on the left is a '79, one on the right is '98. Love 'em both, but they definitely have a different 'feel'. Gonna sell one for a 22lr revolver, leaning towards a Single Six.

smokeyandthebandit05 04-01-2009 09:23 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark C (Post 315608)
Picture time!
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4622601_n.jpg

Both Sig P6s, one on the left is a '79, one on the right is '98. Love 'em both, but they definitely have a different 'feel'. Gonna sell one for a 22lr revolver, leaning towards a Single Six.

Im jealous! I would like to get a hand gun sometime soon but have no clue what to get. Any way nice hang guns :dr

stitch 04-01-2009 10:08 PM

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Ok, I'll join in on this one!
Hand guns,
Daily Carry, Springfield Lightweight Compact 1911 .45ACP
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4408/carryg.jpg

Pocket Rocket, Colt Mustang Plus II .380 ACP
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4699/pocketi.jpg

Mountain Gun, S&W Mod. 57 .41 Mag
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/938/m57v.jpg

S&W Mod. 19 .357 ...Just cause' I like it
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7198/m19r.jpg

Cowpokin gun, Ruger Vaquero SA 45 Long Colt.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7/cowpokin.jpg

elderboy02 04-02-2009 05:02 AM

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Nice guns Stitch! :tu

Cigarcop 04-02-2009 05:39 AM

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My Baby....Blaser R93 LRS2 in .338 Lapua


http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9...D550/ry%3D400/

Tombstone 04-02-2009 06:05 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stitch (Post 315780)

Cowpokin gun, Ruger Vaquero SA 45 Long Colt.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7/cowpokin.jpg

Where did you get your belt and holster for your cowpokin gun (very nice:tu)? Thanks

Cigarcop 04-02-2009 09:23 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 316043)
My Baby....Blaser R93 LRS2 in .338 Lapua

Better picture

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9...D550/ry%3D400/

stitch 04-02-2009 10:16 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone (Post 316066)
Where did you get your belt and holster for your cowpokin gun (very nice:tu)? Thanks

I made it, And the others as well, Thats what I've done for a living for the past 25 years.
http://www.mountainhomeleather.com
That particular rig is 10 years old and still going strong

smokeyandthebandit05 04-02-2009 11:01 AM

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Stitch do u by any chance make scabbards for lever action rifles?

stitch 04-02-2009 12:24 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05 (Post 316526)
Stitch do u by any chance make scabbards for lever action rifles?

Yes I do, ...The area of my web site where Scabbards and saddle bags reside is being redone ... Hope to have it fixed soon.

cigars_n_scotch 04-02-2009 12:35 PM

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nice rifle cigarcop! I'd love to shoot something like that someday...

smokeyandthebandit05 04-02-2009 12:52 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stitch (Post 316678)
Yes I do, ...The area of my web site where Scabbards and saddle bags reside is being redone ... Hope to have it fixed soon.



When it gets back up I may be interested:tu

Roland of Gilead 04-02-2009 02:47 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cigarcop (Post 316361)

We have a winner!

That is one sweet rig!



-Mark.

mikeyj23 04-02-2009 08:53 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Bought my first gun tonight - a home defense gun. Getting married made me feel even more responsible for my "family's" (wife's) safety, and seeing news about apartment breakins, rapes and murders didn't make me any more comfortable. My wife is very petite, so I wanted something that she A) could handle, and B) could shoot and stop with the first shot. We settled on a Remington 870 Express compact with a 21" barrel and 12" length of pull - only 6 lbs and manageable with her short arms. We'll take it out to a range this Saturday so she can get used to it. :wo for me.

stitch 04-02-2009 09:17 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Caint never go wrong with a scatter gun ! :tu

croatan 04-02-2009 09:22 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 317625)
Bought my first gun tonight - a home defense gun. Getting married made me feel even more responsible for my "family's" (wife's) safety, and seeing news about apartment breakins, rapes and murders didn't make me any more comfortable. My wife is very petite, so I wanted something that she A) could handle, and B) could shoot and stop with the first shot. We settled on a Remington 870 Express compact with a 21" barrel and 12" length of pull - only 6 lbs and manageable with her short arms. We'll take it out to a range this Saturday so she can get used to it. :wo for me.

That sounds familiar ;)

Nice choice, Mikey :)

pearson 04-02-2009 09:41 PM

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enjoy and stay safe

elderboy02 04-02-2009 09:44 PM

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Nice pickup Mikey! :tu

bonjing 04-02-2009 09:58 PM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
hey Mikey, don't forget the low recoil rounds.

mikeyj23 04-03-2009 05:41 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I picked up some 7 1/2 heavy doveshot, but I think I might change that up for home use. Low recoil would certainly be a plus, but I don't want to sacrifice any stopping power - suggestions? Also since it's an apartment, I don't want something that might go through five walls.

Catfish 04-03-2009 05:47 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 317625)
My wife is very petite, so I wanted something that she A) could handle, and B) could shoot and stop with the first shot.

May I also suggest a collapsible stock as an immediate option for different sized people to comfortably and safely operate a shotgun?

Things to consider down the road for a home defense shotgun:

Accessory rail to hold a light.
high intensity light. The Surefire L4 immediately comes to mind.
Ghost Ring sights.
Receiver mounted shell carrier
Breacher barrel
With a 21" barrel, I'd highly suggest a high capacity tube extension. You could probably extend the shot capacity to 8.

If you want, I'd be more than happy to send you links for any of these.

I wish you the best of luck doing any sort of instruction with your wife. Most instructors recommend against spouses instructing each other. But, you 2 may be an exeception! The most important thing is to HAVE FUN! :tu

Catfish 04-03-2009 05:49 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyj23 (Post 318066)
I picked up some 7 1/2 heavy doveshot, but I think I might change that up for home use. Low recoil would certainly be a plus, but I don't want to sacrifice any stopping power - suggestions? Also since it's an apartment, I don't want something that might go through five walls.

Check out #4 Buck. :tu

mikeyj23 04-03-2009 06:13 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 318070)
May I also suggest a collapsible stock as an immediate option for different sized people to comfortably and safely operate a shotgun?

Things to consider down the road for a home defense shotgun:

Accessory rail to hold a light.
high intensity light. The Surefire L4 immediately comes to mind.
Ghost Ring sights.
Receiver mounted shell carrier
Breacher barrel
With a 21" barrel, I'd highly suggest a high capacity tube extension. You could probably extend the shot capacity to 8.

If you want, I'd be more than happy to send you links for any of these.

I wish you the best of luck doing any sort of instruction with your wife. Most instructors recommend against spouses instructing each other. But, you 2 may be an exeception! The most important thing is to HAVE FUN! :tu

Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.

elderboy02 04-03-2009 07:27 AM

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I would definitely get the tube extension and light :tu

Tombstone 04-03-2009 08:13 AM

Re: First Firearm Thread.
 
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks


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