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TheManWithNoName 11-03-2009 01:13 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 628988)
a whole half a game... versus Vandy no less, bravo Urban, way to stand up for what's right :rolleyes:
"Meyer then spoke to Spikes and determined he was retaliating after getting his helmet ripped off and eye poked earlier in the game. Meyer also talked to Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive, but Florida officials said it was Meyer’s decision to suspend Spikes."

Football's a rough sport gentlemen. Let's not go overboard attacking Spikes - if you want him benched, what about the original offender? You can't make a huge deal out of the small percentage of incidents that show up on film if you're going to allow those that the cameras miss to go unpunished. Sounds like the first guy did the same thing but against a helmet-less Spikes, which was not the smartest decision. Yes it was unsportsmanlike, but no one's going to seriously expect Spikes to go shake the dude's hand after he was grabbing at his unprotected face.

Plus, it did come down to Meyer's decision, and he really has no reason to make some big PR statement out of some minor incident like this.

Powers 11-03-2009 01:21 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManWithNoName (Post 629704)
"Meyer then spoke to Spikes and determined he was retaliating after getting his helmet ripped off and eye poked earlier in the game. Meyer also talked to Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive, but Florida officials said it was Meyer’s decision to suspend Spikes."

Football's a rough sport gentlemen. Let's not go overboard attacking Spikes - if you want him benched, what about the original offender? You can't make a huge deal out of the small percentage of incidents that show up on film if you're going to allow those that the cameras miss to go unpunished. Sounds like the first guy did the same thing but against a helmet-less Spikes, which was not the smartest decision. Yes it was unsportsmanlike, but no one's going to seriously expect Spikes to go shake the dude's hand after he was grabbing at his unprotected face.

Plus, it did come down to Meyer's decision, and he really has no reason to make some big PR statement out of some minor incident like this.
:hm

i see ur point

Powers 11-03-2009 01:45 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volfan (Post 629717)
Y'all won, y'all did not whip anybody's a$$ that day. Give Lane a couple of full recruiting years and let's talk.

scottie
kiffin can have his moral victories. we'll keep the ones that count in the record books.

UF also had a coach once who could recruit but not coach......his name was Ron Zook

longknocker 11-03-2009 01:53 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volfan (Post 629717)
Y'all won, y'all did not whip anybody's a$$ that day. Give Lane a couple of full recruiting years and let's talk.

scottie
I Like Kiffin's Spunk, Scottie! Doesn't Bother Me At All With His "Talk"!:tu

Powers 11-03-2009 02:03 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 629768)
I Like Kiffin's Spunk, Scottie! Doesn't Bother Me At All With His "Talk"!:tu
If he was like Ali and backed it up I could respect him but he has not. As a UF fan I hate FSU and Georgia as well. the difference is I respect Bowden and Richt, I do not respect Kiffin.

He's some d@mn Yankee comin' into the SEC thinkin' he owns the place w/o paying his dues. Of course Meyer is a Yankee too :r

ucubed 11-03-2009 04:05 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volfan (Post 629808)
Did not say you did not win, said you did not whip anybody's a$$. If you think he can't coach then you must not have watched any of our games last year. He is getting more out of less talented players than Fulmer ever did.

Give it a year or two when the talent level gets closer and we can resume the debate.

scottie
It's his father's work of art and not Lane himself. Tennessee's defense is very talented, but who is coaching... I honestly believe it's the coaches around him and not himself... The celebrity of coaches around him is what will drive the recruiting...

Powers 11-03-2009 04:45 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ucubed (Post 629961)
It's his father's work of art and not Lane himself. Tennessee's defense is very talented, but who is coaching... I honestly believe it's the coaches around him and not himself... The celebrity of coaches around him is what will drive the recruiting...
:tpd:

DrDubzz 11-03-2009 05:14 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManWithNoName (Post 629704)
"Meyer then spoke to Spikes and determined he was retaliating after getting his helmet ripped off and eye poked earlier in the game. Meyer also talked to Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive, but Florida officials said it was Meyer’s decision to suspend Spikes."

Football's a rough sport gentlemen. Let's not go overboard attacking Spikes - if you want him benched, what about the original offender? You can't make a huge deal out of the small percentage of incidents that show up on film if you're going to allow those that the cameras miss to go unpunished. Sounds like the first guy did the same thing but against a helmet-less Spikes, which was not the smartest decision. Yes it was unsportsmanlike, but no one's going to seriously expect Spikes to go shake the dude's hand after he was grabbing at his unprotected face.

Plus, it did come down to Meyer's decision, and he really has no reason to make some big PR statement out of some minor incident like this.

so you're saying, if everyone does something wrong, but only a few people get caught, they really shouldn't get punished because someone else didn't??

it may not be cheating if you don't get caught, but he was caught red-handed, and should be punished. Benching him for the whole Vandy game would still be a token punishment anyway since it's Vandy. It's a pretty weak and spineless punishment for what could have permanently damaged the other player. The ends don't justify the means, his intent was malicious, and should be punished accordingly. those are my :2

you're free to feel however you wish

TheManWithNoName 11-03-2009 08:23 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 630057)
so you're saying, if everyone does something wrong, but only a few people get caught, they really shouldn't get punished because someone else didn't??
In a sense. If he'd be punished for retaliation, then they should go back and find the original offense on tape - they have enough cameras to catch it, it just wasn't on the TV screen. Since it was apparently the same offense, that should be punished too right? But then things get complicated. If you don't punish the same earlier offense, it still supports the "OK unless caught" idea which promotes the behavior in the first place.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RX2010 (Post 630057)
it may not be cheating if you don't get caught, but he was caught red-handed, and should be punished.
What it comes down to is that the refs and officials saw it, and chose to let it go. They're the ones who make the decisions. We can sit and argue about it 'til the cows come home and it won't make any difference in the world. Good thing it didn't affect the outcome of the game. The dude may have acted in an unsportsmanlike manner, but I'd bet a hefty wager this little incident won't hurt him at all when he's being drafted.

ucubed 11-03-2009 08:40 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volfan (Post 630397)
so you are saying that Florida is good SOLELY because of Urban? I bet Charlie Strong thinks the same thing.
Not solely no. At least with Florida I feel as though Urban Meyer and his team is much more collective, as you can see we are doing alright without him Charlie Strong. I feel Tennessee at this moment is getting by with their defensive end... I have no doubts however in the years to come Tennessee will become a very major contender in the SEC...

icehog3 11-03-2009 10:11 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ir13 (Post 629434)
Im not worried about the GA game, Im just waiting for the SEC Championship Game. :D
Blah blah blah, Joey, you talk big sh#t and then say you're "not worried about it". Can't have it both ways, Brother. :2

icehog3 11-03-2009 10:12 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
From MSN Sports:

Quote:
ATHENS, Ga. (AP) - A most unlikely person came to the defense of Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes, who was suspended for half a game for apparently trying to gouge the eyes of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey.

Ealey said Tuesday he doesn't believe Spikes should have been suspended.

In fact, Ealey seemed surprised the play from Saturday's game drew so much attention.

Florida coach Urban Meyer on Monday suspended Spikes for the first half of this week's game against Vanderbilt after the defensive captain stuck his hand in Ealey's helmet and appeared to try to stick his fingers in Ealey's eyes.

Ealey says he doesn't agree with those who have said the suspension was not stiff enough.

"That really didn't matter to me," Ealey said of the suspension. "That's their decision. He shouldn't, I think, get suspended at all. We were just out there playing football."

Ealey said he had his eyes closed when Spikes stuck his hand in his helmet and he wasn't hurt.

"He really didn't gouge my eyes," Ealey said. "He really didn't get a chance to get close to my eyes."

The freshman said he believes similar incidents happen all the time.

"I'm pretty sure it goes on back and forth," he said. "We probably do it and other teams do too. It's all football. We're just out there trying to have fun."

ucubed 11-03-2009 10:14 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volfan (Post 630430)
It is all good, man. I feel like our defense has carried us most of the year but our offense is getting better and we are only a good QB and a little better special teams away from being a top 15 team right now. Getting to a bowl game and being allowed the extra 4-5 weeks of practice will only help us improve for next year. At this point last year I would not have given us much of a chance to have a .500 or better record this year, however we are better than our 4-4 record would lead you to believe IMHO. I am sure we are on the upswing and hope to challenge you Gators for the SEC East in the next couple of years. I do feel like we are better coached (be it head or all of the assistants) than we have been in a long, LONG time. Looking forward to hosting you guys next year in Knox-vegas. If any of you travel to the games, let me know as I am sure a herf could be worked out.

scottie
No doubt, you guys will be top contenders very very shortly

Powers 11-04-2009 03:20 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 630555)
From MSN Sports:
:tu

Powers 11-05-2009 11:05 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Notable Matchups:

South Carolina at Arkansas

Vanderbilt at Florida

LSU at Alabama

where u at Brad? thought u'd be rooting on ur tigers by now!

ir13 11-05-2009 11:25 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 630554)
Blah blah blah, Joey, you talk big sh#t and then say you're "not worried about it". Can't have it both ways, Brother. :2
I was just making a prediction :D

icehog3 11-05-2009 12:02 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
From MSN Sports:

Quote:
GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) - With all the negative attention "weighing heavy on his heart," Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes asked to serve a full-game suspension for apparently trying to gouge the eyes of a Georgia running back.

Coach Urban Meyer obliged, saying Wednesday that it was in the top-ranked Gators' best interest that Spikes sit out Saturday's game against Vanderbilt.

"I really don't want to be a distraction to the team," Spikes said after practice. "I want the guys to prepare without any negative things going on, and I feel like if I would play, it would be a big thing going on. I'm just trying to stay out of the way and just motivate the guys."

longknocker 11-05-2009 12:46 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 632732)
From MSN Sports:
:tu

DougBushBC 11-06-2009 04:38 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Sounds like the whole suspension thing was a publicity stunt by the UF Ath. Dept. by doing this, they can "show" that Brandon Spikes is not an off-the-field problem and that he has leadership. Its all about Draft Stock here ladies and gents.

rizzle 11-06-2009 08:50 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Whatever.

Powers 11-06-2009 09:00 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
we are one day away from the big LSU-Bama game and no smack talk yet? :O

I gotta like Bama in this matchup. They'll be fired up after there close call against UT and come out w/something to prove. Bama's defense will terrorize Jefferson while Ingram runs for 100+

Bama in a big statement win: 24-10

:2

ir13 11-06-2009 09:03 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UFPowersmoker320 (Post 632675)
Notable Matchups:

South Carolina at Arkansas - 21 - 17

Vanderbilt at Florida - 6 - 56

LSU at Alabama - 14 - 27
My Thoughts above :D

Powers 11-06-2009 09:07 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
i'm thinkin the South Carolina-Arkansas game is gonna be a barn burner. gonna come down to Garcia's level of play and if ya'll D can stop the Hogs O.

GO OLE BALLCOACH!!

ir13 11-06-2009 09:09 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UFPowersmoker320 (Post 633962)
i'm thinkin the South Carolina-Arkansas game is gonna be a barn burner. gonna come down to Garcia's level of play and if ya'll D can stop the Hogs O.

GO OLE BALLCOACH!!
Agreed, the way we played against the Vols was horrible. Garcia plays well, I think the cocks will walk away with a win.

Ive already come to the realization that we dont have a shot in hell of beating Florida even at home. (OK TOM?)

Powers 11-06-2009 09:12 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ir13 (Post 633964)
Agreed, the way we played against the Vols was horrible. Garcia plays well, I think the cocks will walk away with a win.

Ive already come to the realization that we dont have a shot in hell of beating Florida even at home. (OK TOM?)
depends on which Florida shows up. If we continue our play from UGA last week Florida wins. Ya'll are def the toughest test left on the way to the Georgia Dome

ir13 11-06-2009 10:07 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UFPowersmoker320 (Post 633971)
depends on which Florida shows up. If we continue our play from UGA last week Florida wins. Ya'll are def the toughest test left on the way to the Georgia Dome
True, but your defense is also strong and we dont really have an offence

icehog3 11-06-2009 02:42 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ir13 (Post 633964)
Ive already come to the realization that we dont have a shot in hell of beating Florida even at home. (OK TOM?)
Dammit, Joey, now you jinxed us! :r

OLS 11-07-2009 01:38 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
After seeing the eye=gouging tape for the first time just moments ago, I stick by my
impressions of FLA as the worst gang of thugs and cheaters since the Miami Hurricanes.
As for bama...sorry fellers, no SEC championship game for you. Tigers roll on.

icehog3 11-07-2009 04:40 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLS (Post 635676)
After seeing the eye=gouging tape for the first time just moments ago, I stick by my
impressions of FLA as the worst gang of thugs and cheaters since the Miami Hurricanes.
As for bama...sorry fellers, no SEC championship game for you. Tigers roll on.
My impressions differ greatly, but I admire your "passion", Brad. :r

Alabama just took the lead back....but would love a chance to see the Gators beat LSU for a second time this season. ;)

icehog3 11-07-2009 05:01 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Looking like the Gators and the Tide.

longknocker 11-07-2009 05:20 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 635829)
Looking like the Gators and the Tide.
And...... It IS!!!!:D Roll, Tide!:banger

longknocker 11-07-2009 05:22 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLS (Post 635676)
After seeing the eye=gouging tape for the first time just moments ago, I stick by my
impressions of FLA as the worst gang of thugs and cheaters since the Miami Hurricanes.
As for bama...sorry fellers, no SEC championship game for you. Tigers roll on.
What Was That Prediction? I Couldn't Hear You!:D:tu Roll, Tide!

icehog3 11-07-2009 05:27 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Go Gators! :D

longknocker 11-07-2009 05:29 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 635852)
Go Gators! :D
Roll, Tide!:D

icehog3 11-07-2009 05:29 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 635855)
Roll, Tide!:D
Meh.

OLS 11-07-2009 05:40 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Nice work, Bama. Poor LSU.

ucubed 11-07-2009 08:21 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
I really want to see Alabama vs. Florida twice...meaning Texas must lose!!!

ir13 11-07-2009 10:07 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Looks like a great SEC Championship game is in store. Cant wait to smoke those winnings after Bama Wins it :r

icehog3 11-07-2009 10:08 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ir13 (Post 636132)
Looks like a great SEC Championship game is in store. Cant wait to smoke those winnings after Bama Wins it :r
You are actually gonna put your money where your mouth is for once? :r

ir13 11-07-2009 11:32 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 636134)
You are actually gonna put your money where your mouth is for once? :r
I already did, i picked bama, you picked FL.

5er bet as to who won the SEC :D


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icehog3 11-07-2009 11:34 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ir13 (Post 636238)
I already did, i picked bama, you picked FL.

5er bet as to who won the SEC :D
I forgot, you've squirmed out of so many bets since then. :r

You are on, my friend. :)

Powers 11-08-2009 04:32 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 636242)
You are on, my friend. :)

GO GATORS!!!

:banger

macpappy 11-08-2009 06:03 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
WTF! When LSU wins, they don't move up in the BCS standings. They lose to Bama and move up one spot.

It doesn't matter anyway. The season just got tougher for LSU. Charles Scott is out for rest of the season with a broken clavicle. The injuries yesterday really hurt LSU because they were putting up a good fight until they started losing starters.

Good game Bama!

longknocker 11-08-2009 08:16 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 637138)
WTF! When LSU wins, they don't move up in the BCS standings. They lose to Bama and move up one spot.

It doesn't matter anyway. The season just got tougher for LSU. Charles Scott is out for rest of the season with a broken clavicle. The injuries yesterday really hurt LSU because they were putting up a good fight until they started losing starters.

Good game Bama!
Thanks! We Still Have A Long Way To Go To Remain Undefeated, Right, Admiral?:):tu

macpappy 11-08-2009 09:28 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 637323)
Thanks! We Still Have A Long Way To Go To Remain Undefeated, Right, Admiral?:):tu
Don't worry, the ghost of Bear Bryant will eventually rise up to knock Saban off his winning streak. You know their can only be one sainted coach at Bama and that's the Bear.

icehog3 11-08-2009 10:16 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 637323)
Thanks! We Still Have A Long Way To Go To Remain Undefeated, Right, Admiral?:):tu
At least one of us will not have an undefeated team by year's end, and maybe both of us.

I am hoping for just one of us....as I know you are too. :r

icehog3 11-08-2009 10:16 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 637407)
Don't worry, the ghost of Bear Bryant will eventually rise up to knock Saban off his winning streak. You know their can only be one sainted coach at Bama and that's the Bear.
Go Bear! :tu :r

Powers 11-09-2009 11:03 AM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
This just in from Gainesville:

Florida players continued their unsportsmanlike antics in the game against Vanderbilt on Saturday. Safety Will Hill pushed a player off the monkey bars in the first quarter while CB Joe Haden could clearly be seen giving a Vandy WR a horrific Indian rug burn just before half-time.
The poor conduct continued in the second half as DE Jermaine Cunningham gave the Vandy QB an unrelenting wedge following a sack. The most inexcusable incident of all however occurred in the 4th quarter when LB Ryan Stamper, filing in for the suspended Brandon Spikes, gave Vandy's freshmen RB a tormenting wet willie at the bottom of the dog pile.
Severe suspensions are expected to follow for all listed.

macpappy 11-09-2009 04:29 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
I really like how some of the sports analysts are now piling on SEC officiating being so bad and so blatantly in favor of Alabama and Florida. On both Pardon the Interruption and Around the Horn today one of the topics was the blown interception call in the LSU/Alabama game.

OLS 11-09-2009 05:11 PM
Re: Official SEC Football Thread 2009
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by macpappy (Post 638612)
I really like how some of the sports analysts are now piling on SEC officiating being so bad and so blatantly in favor of Alabama and Florida. On both Pardon the Interruption and Around the Horn today one of the topics was the blown interception call in the LSU/Alabama game.
It may surprise everyone here, but I am fine with the call in the LSU BAMA game. It was too close to be called on the field, even though they called it. I still think the call was wrong, but there were no indisputible replays with which to overturn it, and while it would have bouyed LSU somewhat, once all our players started dropping like flies, the game was over, call or no call. As for powersmoker, 'waa' yourself, beyotch. Florida plays dirty and gets caught on tape several times a game doing it. Do all teams play ugly? I think so, at times. It's like holding, the old "every play" deal. But make no mistake, people hate Florida for good reason. People also love Florida for good reason. And maybe you are tired of hearing all the whining. Who knows. Hell, who CARES. But don't try to hide behind too much humor, cause your team is a sucky busload of scumbags.:td:rolleyes::r:r


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