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Side note.
If anyone knows anyone looking for a CCM Pro girdle, the 08 model in a medium. I am looking to move mine. Only wore it once at pickup. Just didnt fit right and went back to my Tackla pants. Trying to scrounge up some money for the wife and my anniversary on dec 1st. looking for like 50.00 It honestly looks brand new

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I wish I could fit into it, Mike, I love the CCMs.

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Go AVS! Time to get back on track against the 'Yotes...

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Back on track? They're first in the NHL, what more do ya want? :r

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The Sharks pick up their 6th straight win.
Nice to see the boys comming together. This will be a great game aginst the Pens this Saturday. Great to see where they stand against last years champs.

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Yea....guess that could come across the wrong way....;)

After 2 losses, time to get some points..... Budaj is playing well. Doing well on both sides on the PP.... Getting another chance right now....

GO AVS!

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I only root for the Avs when:

A). Craig is playing

and

B). They are not playing the Blackhawks.

Friday should be a great game, Craig should be pumped to play the Hawks, and hopefully the Hawks will have Johnny Toews back in the line-up.

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Looks like the Sharks lost Blake tonight. He fell oddly into the boards seemingly untouched and didnt get up to quick then skated off in serious pain not to return.

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No details on Blake's injury yet on ESPN.com.

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Not NHL related but Hockey:

What do you guy think of this hit. Alt Angles here

Dirty, Clean, Questionable?

Make a response to what you think before you look up any other information.

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To me it looks like a clean hit. Looks like it was just terrible timing when the D goes to turn and pass the puck. Sucks to see someone get such a serious injury though.

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Didn't look blatently dirty to me...but the escalating head injuries this season have been very disturbing.

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From what I have seen I would have to agree with both of you. But apparently the referees and the commissioner of the league David Branch didn't agree.

Michael Liambas the guy who threw the hit was suspended for the season. Which I think is pretty harsh. They keep using the excuses that Liambas is an Overager who throughout his career was always a "tough guy" and Fanelli is inexperienced and just 16.

I do pray for Ben Fanelli as he is in Hospital in severe condition with skull and facial fractures.

All in All interesting situation I never want to see someone get hurt but there is also the general rule that you need to keep your head up when you're on the ice.

http://www.tsn.ca/chl/story/?id=297187

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Harsh punishment indeed. :2

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Sorry Tom I am going to disagree and I will explain why.

When you slow it down he did appear to get his elbow on his head. That said hits that look similar to this occur almot every night in the NHL and no one gets hurt. The reason being the guy hitting doesnt bring the elbow and the guy taking knows how to absorb the hit.

A little bit of research and thinking shows why the league did this. I think part of the suspension may be the guy has a history of questionable hits. He is basically a fighter enforcer and the jrs remember are trying to limit this after the past few years and kids hitting heads on ice etc.
This hit was not the only one, just one I thought demonstrated what he does. He had nothing but bad intentions here and charged the guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qo2...eature=related

Hes an overager. From what I understand he was 20 at the start of the season but may be 21 now. Basically to me it appears the league has decided the guy isnt going to add anything to the league isnt going to make the show and will likely spend the year blowing up 16 and 17 year olds trying to impress a club wanting a potential tough guy. He almost killed this kid and given his style of hitting he may have ended up killing a 16 year old by the end of the year. The league is basically saying okay badass time to go play in the AHL or ECHL and go pull this.

Arent the majors looking into not allowing the 16 and some 17s not playing majors because of this type of stuff?

Its not accurate or fair to ask to look at this one hit and base your decission saying its wrong or harsh on the one hit. Just as in the NHL. Repeat offenders are treated much more harshly when they have a history as opposed to the clean player who screws up once. Say I dont know someone like Chris Simon? This guy has an extensive history of bad hits and fighting. These are two things the majors want gone last I heard as they are trying to protect kids. This guy is a men amoung boys and he almost killed one. That is why he is gone.

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You make excellent points, Mike. I have neither researched it nor slowed it down the way you did. I respect your opinion, and therefore accept your argument.

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Focking Sharks lost in a shot out to the evil empire. Nabby played well and had a little luck. Want to have a stick so bad right now but cant shake this chest cold.

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Yes!!!! Finally another win for the Yotes!!!

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VICTORY!!!! :banger 3 straight for the Wings. Ozzie looks to be getting it together (but I'm sure I just jinxed him lol). Zetterburg's SO goal was very nice.

Na-Bak-Ov, Na-Bak-Ov, Na-Bok-Ov :D

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Oh Bruins Oh Bruins where has the Scoring gone?
I think two goals in the last 4 games??
I guess one good thing is they are not giving up alot 5 in the last 4

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Going to have to disagree with the elbow to the head. To me it appears to be a shoulder to shoulder, clean hit. I re-watched the video multiple times now trying to see it, but it still looks clean to me.

Here's the OHL's official statement, their calling it a boarding penalty.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,200172

I do think your right though, seems they have had enough of this guy and want him gone. Wish Fanelli the best of luck and speedy recovery.

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Watched the video in the link you gave. 39 second freeze you see this.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...oody/elbow.jpg
That is not shoulder to shoulder brother. His elbow is right on his head. Now clearly at the speed its hard to pick up, but it is there to me. Hope this helps you see it. He clearly finishes with the elbow. He came in and drove the elbow, he didnt lead with the elbow, but at that speed finishing with it is I guess harder to pick up

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Here's a view from the other side. To me that basically looks shoulder to shoulder, but I can see where your coming from.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...12/liambus.jpg

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Lol I guess we are going to dance in circles. You are showing the start of the contact. I already said in my reply to you that he didnt lead with the elbow I said he finished with it. Look at his body positioning on your pic. Thats the begining of the contact where they are side by side as he hits and drives through Fanelli the elbow finishes on the side of his head which is the pic I am showing. If you look at my pic he is no longer side by side as in yours.

Any way you look at it the kid ended up with a fractured orbital bone which usually occurs when someone gets the Shiva to the face. Regardless of that I think the league made the right call. If you youtube this guy its a collage of suspect hits and fights. GOOOOOOOOOOOOON!! He is a great fighter though, in one fight he gave up almost a foot and like over 50lbs and still broke the dudes nose. He just doesnt have much business playing in a development league with 16 and 17 year olds to me.

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Alright, one more lap around the old circle, lol.

Here's the way I see this, but my interpretation of the incident may be wrong.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...2/liambus1.jpg
I agree with the fact that he's a goon and that he shouldn't be playing against most teenagers who are still developing.

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Look at your first pic. At the start of the hit his helmet has already come off his head and is now above where his head is. You can see his head and hair and everything in your pic. Now watch the video and notice the helmet lands after he does as its floating in thr air during the hit and fall. You are going to need to place that head lower then the helmet and remember that the head is a large area then that little circle you drew. You cannot fit the elbow and head in the area below the helmet without the elbow being on his head. The elbow is on the head man. I guess we should stop as apparently you think its a clean hit and I cant show it anymore clearly then the photos that his elbow is on the head.

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Looking forward to the Avs vs 'Hawks game in a few hours.... GO AVS!

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Me too....It will feel weird rooting against Craig...but GO HAWKS!

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Guess we can expect another extended shootout next week....

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That was a lot of fun, though I have no clue why Byfuglien thought he could beat Craig with a slapshot. Watched the shootout with Craig's brother, so at least HE was happy. :r

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He broke his stick:r

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He broke Anderson's stick?

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Byfuglien broke his own stick, atleast it looked that way.

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Dufus! :r

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Anderson really impressed me last night, Niemi also had some great saves as well.

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sharks plying the pens tonight. gonna listen at work. hopefully I can watch some in the car :)

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When it rains, it pours, Joe. :(

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No kidding, bro... starting to think we should prepare for locusts and plague. :D

Cam Ward is a great goalie, and a quality person. Hoping he will be OK. Heard on the radio broadcast that they were keeping him in the hospital overnight... was hoping they would get a couple of stitches and release him. I will be listening intently for his condition.

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Please let us know if you get any local updates before ESPM.com puts one up, Joe. Hope he will be back soon.

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Man Joe that is horrible and scary. Hope he is alright.

Watching the wings and leafs in the car. Someone forgot to tell the Leafs they were supposed to get rolled. Looks like the wings up and down season will continue. Bad goal tending again tonight

oOOOO crap Rangers at Calgary. Hey Phenuf how you like my sloppy seconds! Come on fight

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Devils still kickin ass and takin names. Beat Ottowa 3-2

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Sharks stomping on the pens.

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Big time.

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Kipper put on a show tonight.

Big hit on Drury from Glencross, I like my team but this one might have been beyond necessary.

Whats with the super pest...............he was invisible tonight, not that I give a damn about Avery but a pilon would have been more effective.

Update on Ward on HNIC was that he will be released in the morning that the stay over was precautionary.

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I just happened to turn on XM radio right after the Drury hit but didn't get any details...what happened Shawn?

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Looked like incidental contact right at the blue line, but Torts was furious. Even on the replays I didn't see it as intent but he did catch him in the head with the shoulder. Drury is concussed which is bad for him as I believe he has had three or for already.

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It's like an epidemic this season, so many more than in past years...and almost all of them are coming on clean (legal ) hits.

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I am typically not a fan of European hockey..........but maybe they have it right. A shot to the head (intentional or not) is a penalty.

Dunno, seems there is a ton of injuries this year to a lot of top notch players.

On that happy note, the Flames won..........its late.........sleep time.

Night all.

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Night Shawn. :ih

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Why do you guys post these comments you know you are going to get me started.

The report the other day on the NHL channel was currently just over 20% of nhl teams starting rosters are injured. Many of these are comming from big hits. Years ago a lot of these hits would be charging. Now a days guys are getting a 30 foot running start on these hits. You guys know my stance on it. I just dont like head hits. They are becoming way to common. I LOVE I mean LOVE, a monster hip check and just a clean shoulder to body suck the air out hit. You know the old school open ice hits that left your mouth wide open? Its a lost art these days. The guys know how to hit the head and more and more guys are getting more and more injuries. You cant argue they dont and arent when you look at the stats. Head injuries are way up. Part of the problem is the rule changes. One of the new ones needs to be removed. They either need to
1) allow some hooking again to slow players down
2) reactivate the two line pass rule
3) getting ride of that STUPID ASS Instigator Rule on fighting so teams can bring in enforecers to whoop some ass when people run guys (not a huge fan of this and dont think it will really work anyway, just hate the instigator rule)
4) Outlaw headshots all together if they want to keep the rules.

Some great players have had carrers ended from headshots like Lindros and isnt tim connelly got injury issues from them? There are others also. I think its a bad sign of the current game and the lack of respect players are showing for each other. Some(mainly old schoolers) are saying bring back the enforcers/goons to teach respect, but that could result in a whole new group of issues. Either bring back a little hooking and grabbing or outlaw headshots. I guess they will just wait till something happens like the jr kid in the nhl where someone ends up a vegetable or dead.