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rizzle
02-05-2009, 08:01 AM
Can you split a signal after the cable box? If so, what happens to the scrambled channels?

darb85
02-05-2009, 08:10 AM
Can you split a signal after the cable box? If so, what happens to the scrambled channels?

you can, but both TVs will be controled by the one box, there fore both tvs must be watching the same channel

poker
02-05-2009, 08:18 AM
:tpd:

100% correct

14holestogie
02-05-2009, 08:21 AM
That was going to be my guess too.

Footbag
02-05-2009, 08:21 AM
If I know what you are asking, you do have to watch the same thing on the two TV's but, you can get an infared eye that will allow you to use a remote with either TV. Without the eye, you'll have to point the remote at the original box.

If you have Comcast or a similar service, you can use a switcher to have the low channels come in over basic cable and you will only need the seperate service for the high channels.

rizzle
02-05-2009, 09:16 AM
That's about what I figured. And I don't think that is the solution I'm looking for.

Mugen910
02-05-2009, 09:19 AM
well what are you trying to do?

rizzle
02-05-2009, 09:25 AM
well what are you trying to do?
I thought you'd never ask..:r

Seriously though, I put a new TV in my home office and I don't have a cable box for it because, well because it's in the office and it's more for back ground noise, etc... and I don't want to have to pay for another cable box. So obviously I only get the basic cable channels on it and I would like to have more channels without paying for another box.

I'm just like the next guy, looking for something for free.:D

Mugen910
02-05-2009, 09:27 AM
I thought you'd never ask..:r

Seriously though, I put a new TV in my home office and I don't have a cable box for it because, well because it's in the office and it's more for back ground noise, etc... and I don't want to have to pay for another cable box. So obviously I only get the basic cable channels on it and I would like to have more channels without paying for another box.

I'm just like the next guy, looking for something for free.:D

Is it a HDtv?
What channels are you looking for that you don't want to buy an extra box for?
If it's background noise does the channels matter?

poker
02-05-2009, 09:29 AM
Is it a HDtv?
What channels are you looking for that you don't want to buy an extra box for?
If it's background noise does the channels matter?

I think he's looking for premium background noise :D

MikeyC
02-05-2009, 09:42 AM
I think he's looking for premium background noise :D

po-rn? :r

I thought you'd never ask..:r

Seriously though, I put a new TV in my home office and I don't have a cable box for it because, well because it's in the office and it's more for back ground noise, etc... and I don't want to have to pay for another cable box. So obviously I only get the basic cable channels on it and I would like to have more channels without paying for another box.

I'm just like the next guy, looking for something for free.:D

Not gonna happen. The closest you'll come is splitting the cable from the box output and using a IR repeater to control the box from the other room. But as stated you'll have to watch the same thing on both TV's.

rizzle
02-05-2009, 10:31 AM
Is it a HDtv?
What channels are you looking for that you don't want to buy an extra box for?
If it's background noise does the channels matter?
Yep, it's HD. Would like network hi-def channels and ESPN hi-def.

I think he's looking for premium background noise :D
Aren't we all? ;)

po-rn? :r



Not gonna happen. The closest you'll come is splitting the cable from the box output and using a IR repeater to control the box from the other room. But as stated you'll have to watch the same thing on both TV's.
Yep, not gonna happen.

Mugen910
02-05-2009, 10:41 AM
You're prob not gonna like this I'd say you're SOL unless you buy another box...Otherwise you can just split the cable wire before it reaches the box and plug it into your HDtv..then scan for digital channels and be happy with free broadcasted HD and the occasional pro.n channel that your neighbor ordered on PPV.

AD720
02-05-2009, 11:16 AM
Dish Network receivers are capable of doing exactly that. You can either mirror the output of your mail tuner to any other tv or split your dual-tuner DVR into 2 single tuners and have separate control.

AFAIK Comcast receivers can't do that but I have heard that FIOS can...

Cigary
02-05-2009, 02:38 PM
If your TV has a built in tuner you can always let your TV "tune in" channels in your area like I did with my Mitsubishi 52 inch. I don't have a cable box but rather just the one cable going into the TV and I tune my TV and I get 100 channels plus 15 HD channels. Try manually tuning your TV this way and see what you are able to get.

rizzle
02-06-2009, 04:29 AM
If your TV has a built in tuner you can always let your TV "tune in" channels in your area like I did with my Mitsubishi 52 inch. I don't have a cable box but rather just the one cable going into the TV and I tune my TV and I get 100 channels plus 15 HD channels. Try manually tuning your TV this way and see what you are able to get.

That's what I'm talking about!

mikeyj23
02-06-2009, 05:06 AM
When I first got my HDTV and didn't have an HD box I used just the tuner and got about 30 HD channels. No ESPN and about 10 spanish channels, but 30 HD channels is better than a lot of cable providers, which still puzzles me a bit.

rizzle
02-06-2009, 07:17 AM
When I first got my HDTV and didn't have an HD box I used just the tuner and got about 30 HD channels. No ESPN and about 10 spanish channels, but 30 HD channels is better than a lot of cable providers, which still puzzles me a bit.

See, this is what is puzzling me mikey. When I set the unit up and had it "find" the channels or whatever you call it, it didn't pick up any of the HD channels. I don't know why the tuner isn't grabbing those channels.

dunng
02-06-2009, 07:20 AM
See, this is what is puzzling me mikey. When I set the unit up and had it "find" the channels or whatever you call it, it didn't pick up any of the HD channels. I don't know why the tuner isn't grabbing those channels.

Make sure it is searching the Digital Tuner too... some do it automatically, some do not... :ss

Mugen910
02-06-2009, 07:55 AM
You're prob not gonna like this I'd say you're SOL unless you buy another box...Otherwise you can just split the cable wire before it reaches the box and plug it into your HDtv..then scan for digital channels and be happy with free broadcasted HD and the occasional pro.n channel that your neighbor ordered on PPV.

:tpd:

Darrell
02-06-2009, 08:21 AM
Stop being such a cheap ass and just get another box for $5 a month. :tg

rizzle
02-06-2009, 09:05 AM
Stop being such a cheap ass and just get another box for $5 a month. :tg

But then I can't go to Subway for a footlong.
:ze
:tg

Mugen910
02-06-2009, 09:16 AM
But then I can't go to Subway for a footlong.
:ze
:tg

what if I get you a coupon to save you $ per purchase @ subway? then you can add up your savings to get another box :r

rizzle
02-06-2009, 09:20 AM
Perfect. I knew I could count on you guys to help out.
:D

AD720
02-06-2009, 09:23 AM
See, this is what is puzzling me mikey. When I set the unit up and had it "find" the channels or whatever you call it, it didn't pick up any of the HD channels. I don't know why the tuner isn't grabbing those channels.


While it may be an HDTV it is possible that it does not have a QAM tuner.


NTSC tuner = analog over the air
ATSC tuner = digital (HD) over the air
QAM tuner = digital (non-scrambled/ "in the clear") over cable


That might explain why your TV is not finding any HD/Digital channels when it scans.

Mugen910
02-06-2009, 09:25 AM
While it may be an HDTV it is possible that it does not have a QAM tuner.


NTSC tuner = analog over the air
ATSC tuner = digital (HD) over the air
QAM tuner = digital (non-scrambled/ "in the clear") over cable


That might explain why your TV is not finding any HD/Digital channels when it scans.

True Andrew... assumed that his tv had QAM.

AD720
02-06-2009, 09:37 AM
If the OP can post the brand/model I'm sure we can figure out if it has QAM...

rizzle
02-06-2009, 11:59 AM
If the OP can post the brand/model I'm sure we can figure out if it has QAM...

It's a Samsung LN19A450. I think the tuner is ATSC. What the hell does that even mean?

AD720
02-06-2009, 12:30 PM
I think the tuner is ATSC. What the hell does that even mean?

See Below...

While it may be an HDTV it is possible that it does not have a QAM tuner.


NTSC tuner = analog over the air
ATSC tuner = digital (HD) over the air
QAM tuner = digital (non-scrambled/ "in the clear") over cable




It's a Samsung LN19A450.

Several sources confirm that this TV has a built in QAM tuner. So that is not the problem.

My next guess is that it is mapping the Digital channels somewhere else than you would expect - IE channel "6" shows up on "116.7" or something like that. Consult your owner's manual.

Cigary
02-06-2009, 02:08 PM
Make sure it is searching the Digital Tuner too... some do it automatically, some do not... :ss

Exactly,,,mine runs analog first which takes about 10 minutes and then it automatically scans for digital which takes about another 15-20 minutes. There is another way to scan individually and I did that and was able to score movie channels,,,HBO, Cinemax, Showtime,,,I thought I had died and gone to cable heaven. Each of these "Premium" channels are HDTV. I now have about 25 HD channels.

Mugen910
02-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Anymore info on scanning individually for channels? I only know of the general way of "Scan for digital"

rizzle
02-06-2009, 06:10 PM
Anymore info on scanning individually for channels? I only know of the general way of "Scan for digital"

Oh I see, now you're looking for a $1 off coupon too.
:r:r ;)

dunng
02-06-2009, 06:17 PM
Check page 28 of your manual... Make sure mode is cable and do the auto program... as well it shows you how to check the Channel List and it will show if it is digital or analog... :ss

mikeyj23
02-06-2009, 06:19 PM
when I picked up 30 hd channels I was using bunny ears, and I'm in Dallas which helps
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