View Full Version : Michael Phelps likes to smoke...
JaKaacH
01-31-2009, 08:02 PM
But not cigars...:confused:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/7GDjAvzwbvjBeJJj2A-1.jpg
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/150832/14-times-Olympic-gold-medal-winner-Michael-Phelps-caught-with-bong-cannabis-pipe.html
dunng
01-31-2009, 08:04 PM
Our source said: “You could tell Michael had smoked before. He grabbed the bong and a lighter and knew exactly what to do." :ss
SeanGAR
01-31-2009, 08:38 PM
He is more normal than I thought .... nice.
karmaz00
01-31-2009, 11:17 PM
must be some superman smoke...cause that guy can swim
acarr
01-31-2009, 11:22 PM
How do you think he won all those medals?
totallytentative
01-31-2009, 11:57 PM
Maybe it was part of his conditioning regimen that there was a bag of Doritos waiting for him at the end of a set of laps. :D
tobii3
02-01-2009, 12:06 AM
As long as he didn't inhale, he's still safe....
well, he could still be President...if he didn't inhale, that is.....
theonlybear4CORT
02-01-2009, 01:02 AM
Wow I always wonder why us normal (not famous) people are shocked when famous celibates are caught doing drugs.They are just like you and me and at age 23 and who can honestly say that they haven't tried/smoked pot at that age. Life is short so live it up and have a ball.
Thrak
02-01-2009, 06:35 AM
Wow I always wonder why us normal (not famous) people are shocked when famous celibates are caught doing drugs.They are just like you and me and at age 23 and who can honestly say that they haven't tried/smoked pot at that age. Life is short so live it up and have a ball.
I'm 30 and have never tried/smoked pot. :p
Don Fernando
02-01-2009, 06:38 AM
I'm 30 and have never tried/smoked pot. :p
i'm 36 and i have never ...... oh wait, I have
AD720
02-01-2009, 07:37 AM
An embarrassing picture yes. (Most likley there are some pictures floating around out there that would prohibit me from running for public office :r)
But it really proves nothing. There is no way anyone could know what was in the water pipe and even if they were illegal drugs unless the powers that be (Olympic Committee) drug test him immediately he will pass.
I really don't see any Olympic implications for him.
The Professor
02-01-2009, 08:10 AM
Yup ... I don't think it proves a thing. A drug test would be needed and it ain't showing sh*t from a November bong hit. Plus, there's really no evidence there was anything in that "water pipe." They sell those with pouches of tobacco, right? :D
My favorite comment after the article:
The man is set for life, FOR LIFE! He will always make money unless he decides to start cooking babies & stuffing them with dead kittens.
DavenportESQ
02-01-2009, 09:11 AM
This story is a complete fabrication, and over exaggeration. anyone who knows anything knows that this guy probably gets drug tested more times than we can imagine. I am sure as soon as any news of this happend someone was knocking at his door with a specimen cup. Even out of season. The picture doesn't even look like him to me it just looks similar. Its a hard angle and would be tough to prove its him. You see a lot of "celeb nude" pictures where its just someone who looks like the celebrity.
I have a lot of friends who met him when he was in town and they said he was a really nice and overall just seemed like a normal college kid
1.Micheal Phelps coach is a native to the Columbia SC area.
2. A good friend of his who went to h.s together played soccer here.
tobii3
02-01-2009, 09:21 AM
It was a slow news day!!! ha ha ha
s15driftking
02-01-2009, 09:37 AM
must be some superman smoke...cause that guy can swim
yeah, het me some of that shiz!
haha, maybe he won all his events because there was a bag of funions at the finish line?
JaKaacH
02-01-2009, 11:44 AM
This story is a complete fabrication, and over exaggeration. anyone who knows anything knows that this guy probably gets drug tested more times than we can imagine. I am sure as soon as any news of this happened someone was knocking at his door with a specimen cup. Even out of season. The picture doesn't even look like him to me it just looks similar. Its a hard angle and would be tough to prove its him. You see a lot of "celeb nude" pictures where its just someone who looks like the celebrity.
I have a lot of friends who met him when he was in town and they said he was a really nice and overall just seemed like a normal college kid
1.Micheal Phelps coach is a native to the Columbia SC area.
2. A good friend of his who went to h.s together played soccer here.
I could care less one way or the other. Just a headline that caught my eye.
He had to know though if a picture like this got out it would at the least be a controversy.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9160136/Phelps-acknowledges-photo-of-him-smoking-pot
DavenportESQ
02-01-2009, 09:25 PM
I could care less one way or the other. Just a headline that caught my eye.
He had to know though if a picture like this got out it would at the least be a controversy.
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/9160136/Phelps-acknowledges-photo-of-him-smoking-pot
I agree...there are a lot of athletes that do a lot worse. Sucks to see a good guy get caught up in something of that nature
ActionAndy
02-01-2009, 09:37 PM
There's nothing more obvious than the tone of an English tabloid writer. Marijuana has been demonized to such an absurd degree, it really makes me laugh. :ss
As for Michael Phelps I've always gotten a huge D-Bag vibe from him.
elderboy02
02-02-2009, 06:40 AM
I have lost all respect for this guy. First he gets a DUI and now he is smoking weed. Sorry, that is not the way to represent America. He is definitely not a role model.
Rockestone
02-02-2009, 06:42 AM
I have lost all respect for this guy. First he gets a DUI and now he is smoking weed. Sorry, that is not the way to represent America. He is definitely not a role model.
:tpd:
md4958
02-02-2009, 06:49 AM
Yup ... I don't think it proves a thing. A drug test would be needed and it ain't showing sh*t from a November bong hit. Plus, there's really no evidence there was anything in that "water pipe." They sell those with pouches of tobacco, right? :D
My favorite comment after the article:
This story is a complete fabrication, and over exaggeration. anyone who knows anything knows that this guy probably gets drug tested more times than we can imagine. I am sure as soon as any news of this happend someone was knocking at his door with a specimen cup. Even out of season. The picture doesn't even look like him to me it just looks similar. Its a hard angle and would be tough to prove its him. You see a lot of "celeb nude" pictures where its just someone who looks like the celebrity.
I have a lot of friends who met him when he was in town and they said he was a really nice and overall just seemed like a normal college kid
1.Micheal Phelps coach is a native to the Columbia SC area.
2. A good friend of his who went to h.s together played soccer here.
Sorry fellas, but it looks like Phelps released a statement that the photos were real.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/31/michael-phelps-bong-pictu_n_162842.html
s15driftking
02-02-2009, 07:05 AM
I have lost all respect for this guy. First he gets a DUI and now he is smoking weed. Sorry, that is not the way to represent America. He is definitely not a role model.
just to ask, who do you consider to be a role model that is widely known?
I have lost all respect for this guy. First he gets a DUI and now he is smoking weed. Sorry, that is not the way to represent America. He is definitely not a role model.
he's an athlete not a role model....
who cares if he smoked something illegal. damn near every american on this board has smoked something illegal
SeanGAR
02-02-2009, 07:09 AM
I have lost all respect for this guy. First he gets a DUI and now he is smoking weed. Sorry, that is not the way to represent America. He is definitely not a role model.
He wasn't before.
A guy that does nothing for others, just spends time in a pool so he can be faster than anybody else.
There are important problems in the world ... swimming fast doesn't help any of them.
elderboy02
02-02-2009, 07:12 AM
he's an athlete not a role model....
"Michael is a role model, and he is well aware of the responsibilities and accountability that come with setting a positive example for others, particularly young people," the USOC said in a statement. "In this instance, regrettably, he failed to fulfill those responsibilities."
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8334926&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
"Michael is a role model, and he is well aware of the responsibilities and accountability that come with setting a positive example for others, particularly young people," the USOC said in a statement. "In this instance, regrettably, he failed to fulfill those responsibilities."
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8334926&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
I'm not going to get into this with you.
elderboy02
02-02-2009, 07:15 AM
just to ask, who do you consider to be a role model that is widely known?
Jimmie Johnson (NASCAR driver)
Sean Casey
Jeff Gordon
elderboy02
02-02-2009, 07:16 AM
I'm not going to get into this with you.
No problem :)
s15driftking
02-02-2009, 07:21 AM
Jimmie Johnson (NASCAR driver)
Sean Casey
Jeff Gordon
i got ya man...
But hey, don't say we shouldn't have seen the signs... The kid did admit to consuming 13,000 calories per day..... :r:r:r
sorry, i had to!
Blueface
02-02-2009, 07:22 AM
he's an athlete not a role model....
who cares if he smoked something illegal. damn near every american on this board has smoked something illegal
:tpd:
Athletes as role models......what a joke!!!
Role model? Let's all post a picture of this guy on our bedroom walls for our kids.
Calm, cool, collected, and put his life on the line to make sure all were out of that plane first, before him. That is a role model!!!
OH!!! BTW, was just doing his job according to him.
elderboy02
02-02-2009, 07:25 AM
...
But hey, don't say we shouldn't have seen the signs... The kid did admit to consuming 13,000 calories per day..... :r:r:r
:r Duh, how could we have missed that one :r
Scottw
02-02-2009, 07:25 AM
he's an athlete not a role model....
who cares if he smoked something illegal. damn near every american on this board has smoked something illegal
:tpd: now we know how he can consume the 15000 calories per day that he does while training.
someone explain to me what makes athletes role models? he can hit a ball really far, he can swim really fast, he can jump high...so what. why is this role model material?
s15driftking
02-02-2009, 07:29 AM
Agreed loki, role models are supposed to be people you look up to for reasons greater than sports performance.
The greatest part is when you have super-atheletes that are good people, and do good things for their communities. Those can be role models. Using their money and prestige to get people to listen and act on the greater good for the community. That is what a role model is (to me) in terms of a sports athelete.
68TriShield
02-02-2009, 07:30 AM
who cares if he smoked something illegal. damn near every american on this board has smoked something illegal
like Cuban Cigars maybe? :rolleyes:
Me? never! :cool2:
md4958
02-02-2009, 07:31 AM
someone explain to me what makes athletes role models? he can hit a ball really far, he can swim really fast, he can jump high...so what. why is this role model material?
role model
–noun a person whose behavior, example, or success is or can be emulated by others, esp. by younger people.
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Origin:
1955–60
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Not saying that he should be, but he is a role model because kids look up to him for what he accomplished. The fact is that there have been more Presidents of the US, than people who have achieved what Phelps achieved. That doesnt excuse his behavior, in fact, that SHOULD cause him to live his life in a more responsible manner.
mosesbotbol
02-02-2009, 07:32 AM
If they tested all the professional athletes in NFL, NBA, MLB for Marijuana, there would be no professional sports.
Does smoking Marijuana make him less of a person?
Athletes should not be role models to children; parents should be...
chippewastud79
02-02-2009, 07:39 AM
I have to disagree with all the people who say athletes can't be role models. Not necessarily for what they do on the field/court/ice/etc., but for how they conduct themselves off of it. Michael Phelps is likely only a role model to swimmers, he is an amazing swimmer, if I was a swimmer I would want to swim like him.
You can't really argue with the fact that Tim Tebow would be a great role model for most young people. He spends his off season going on mission trips to third world countries, he is a leader off the field, he uses his "fame" for the benefit of others. In fact, I hate the way he plays football, but I can appreciate what he does off the field for other people.
There are many examples of athletes being role models for the stuff that they do off the field than the stuff that they do on it. Charles Barkley was right, not a role-model, an athlete. I think athletes that try to make themselves role models are the ones who probably shouldn't be, but the ones who do things for other people out of the kindness of their hearts are the role models. :2
like Cuban Cigars maybe? :rolleyes:
Me? never! :cool2:
I've seen your humidor, you're in the clear....or you were after I left atleast :)
I have to disagree with all the people who say athletes can't be role models. Not necessarily for what they do on the field/court/ice/etc., but for how they conduct themselves off of it. Michael Phelps is likely only a role model to swimmers, he is an amazing swimmer, if I was a swimmer I would want to swim like him.
You can't really argue with the fact that Tim Tebow would be a great role model for most young people. He spends his off season going on mission trips to third world countries, he is a leader off the field, he uses his "fame" for the benefit of others. In fact, I hate the way he plays football, but I can appreciate what he does off the field for other people.
There are many examples of athletes being role models for the stuff that they do off the field than the stuff that they do on it. Charles Barkley was right, not a role-model, an athlete. I think athletes that try to make themselves role models are the ones who probably shouldn't be, but the ones who do things for other people out of the kindness of their hearts are the role models. :2
I agree that they can be role models, I've personally seen what guys like georges laraque, ward and others do for the less fortunite. But that's not because they're athletes. They're good people who happen to be good at a game. The two are not related
tobii3
02-02-2009, 07:42 AM
Yeah, but if he played football or baseball it would be another story, of course.
chippewastud79
02-02-2009, 07:54 AM
I agree that they can be role models, I've personally seen what guys like georges laraque, ward and others do for the less fortunite. But that's not because they're athletes. They're good people who happen to be good at a game. The two are not related
While it is not because they are athletes that they are good people, it is because they are athletes that allows them to be in the public eye and have a greater impact. Prime example, Lance Armstrong and his Live Strong campaign. :tu
elderboy02
02-02-2009, 07:56 AM
just to ask, who do you consider to be a role model that is widely known?
While it is not because they are athletes that they are good people, it is because they are athletes that allows them to be in the public eye and have a greater impact. Prime example, Lance Armstrong and his Live Strong campaign. :tu
:tpd: Bobby, add Lance Armstrong to my role model list.
s15driftking
02-02-2009, 08:18 AM
noted.
bazookajoe
02-02-2009, 08:37 AM
I wouldn't consider Lance Armstrong a role model - he admittedly got so caught up in his own celebrity that he decided domestic life with his wife and kids was too much of a bore so he went for something he found more exciting. I don't understand why our society constantly makes celebrities of people who do a good deed or accomplish something and then put those people on pedestals and fawn over them. It's our own fault for building such high expectations that they let us down at some point, and then the media attacks and picks their bones clean. I've seen few celebrities worthy of admiring but they are plenty of people in our neighborhoods that do good for others without the spotlight. We can use the good deeds or achievements of others (including celebrities) as examples of what can be accomplished, but idolizing them will in most cases lead to disappointment. :2
Blueface
02-02-2009, 08:44 AM
This subject really bothers me at times.
While I agree some athletes can in fact be role models, we have got to stop that nonsense as a society.
Athletes are just that, athletes.
They can throw or catch balls. Whoopie. I bet I could do that too if I got millions.
Many of them are not and never will be role models.
My wife worked at a hotel property where all teams that played the NJ teams (meadowlands) stayed.
You have got to see the nonsense that went on with prostitutes in their rooms and so forth, while all being married.
You should see the way the treated kids seeking their autographs as they got on the bus to go to the game.
You should see how they treated the staff at the hotel, to include my wife.
Kids can't tell the difference who is and who is not a good role model. They idolize these people because of what they see them do on TV.
As such, why have them follow someone that may not end up being an ideal role model?
Sad indeed if I have to look up to someone who made the winning catch in the Super Bowl when I have a man such as my dad, that gave it all to come to America and provided for his family his whole life, never cheating on his wife, never doing any less than everything he possibly could to provide for us. That is a role model and that is what we need more of.
pnoon
02-02-2009, 08:50 AM
I wouldn't consider Lance Armstrong a role model - he admittedly got so caught up in his own celebrity that he decided domestic life with his wife and kids was too much of a bore so he went for something he found more exciting. I don't understand why our society constantly makes celebrities of people who do a good deed or accomplish something and then put those people on pedestals and fawn over them. It's our own fault for building such high expectations that they let us down at some point, and then the media attacks and picks their bones clean. I've seen few celebrities worthy of admiring but they are plenty of people in our neighborhoods that do good for others without the spotlight. We can use the good deeds or achievements of others (including celebrities) as examples of what can be accomplished, but idolizing them will in most cases lead to disappointment. :2
I agree wholeheartedly.
None of the celebrities/athletes mentioned here are what I would consider role models. They are successful people in the limelight who happen to do some good. Their fame and notoriety doesn't make their positive character traits any more important than any other person.
Apologies to Carlos - To me, the man he mentioned is a hero.
:tpd:
Athletes as role models......what a joke!!!
Role model? Let's all post a picture of this guy on our bedroom walls for our kids.
Calm, cool, collected, and put his life on the line to make sure all were out of that plane first, before him. That is a role model!!!
OH!!! BTW, was just doing his job according to him.
Blueface
02-02-2009, 08:51 AM
i agree wholeheartedly.
None of the celebrities/athletes mentioned here are what i would consider role models. They are successful people in the limelight who happen to do some good. Their fame and notoriety doesn't make their positive character traits any more important than any other person.
bingo!!!
mosesbotbol
02-02-2009, 09:35 AM
Vince McMahon of WWF is a worthy role model. Never seen a more hand's on, hard working billionaire and I tip my hat to him (I don't watch wrestling at all).
I knew one of his daughters and he actually came to her apartment to help her move out. She worked a regular job while in college...
ChINaMaN1472
02-02-2009, 12:06 PM
Meh, so he's human. I don't see the big deal.
What's funny, is that whoever decided to make this a big deal is kind of endorsing smoking weed. He could've just buried and forget about it, but noooo he had to make a whole story around smoking weed. No publicity is bad publicity right? "Even 14 time Olympic Gold Medalist Michael Phelps smokes weed"
ChicagoWhiteSox
02-02-2009, 12:44 PM
Athletes are role models whether they want to be or not. Kids look up to players. Thats just the way it is. It doesnt matter if we think that kids shoudnt consider them role models. A kid playing little league baseball is going to have a MLB player he likes and follows. That player cant control whether or not he wants to be that kids role model. Cal Ripken Jr. addressed the issue of athletes and being role models at his Hall Of Fame Induction--"As years passed, it became clear to me that kids see all, not just some of your actions but all," Ripken said. "Whether we like or not, we big leaguers are role models. The only question is, will it be positive or will it be negative? Should we put players up on pedestals and require that they take responsibility? No. But we should encourage them to use their influence positively to help build up and develop the young people who follow the game. Sports can play a big role in teaching values and principles. Just think. Teamwork, leadership, work ethic and trust are all part of the game, and they are also all factors in what we make of our lives."
http://sportinsociety.blogspot.com/2007/08/are-athletes-role-models.html
I think the point is that we cant force athletes to do the right thing, but we can encourage them to and let them know that they are role models. And i think most of them know that kids follow them. Even though they dont choose to be. Thats how it is. Thats just my opinion:2:2
Stick
02-02-2009, 12:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzdAZ3TjCA
ChicagoWhiteSox
02-02-2009, 01:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzdAZ3TjCA
1. he was a role model because kids looked up to him
2. I agree, he gets paided to put points on the board
3. No, he shouldnt raise your kids, but if you let your kid watch him play, they will be influenced by him and the way he plays. He is charles barkley. I know kids looked up to him.
4. Barkley cant choose not to be a role model.
5. No one can force him to be a good role model or a bad one, its his choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AGiq9j_Ak
I dont agree with some of what MJ did in the later years, but that doesnt matter. He didnt choose to be a role model. He was a great player. Kids wanted to be great players. Some of what he did in the later years is his own responsibility.
Blueface
02-02-2009, 01:51 PM
Athletes are role models whether they want to be or not. Kids look up to players. Thats just the way it is. It doesnt matter if we think that kids shoudnt consider them role models. A kid playing little league baseball is going to have a MLB player he likes and follows. That player cant control whether or not he wants to be that kids role model.
I completely disagree.
One thing is to idolize a sports figure for being that, a sports figure.
Another thing is to have that person be your "role model".
For kids to be allowed to confuse the two terms is unacceptable.
My son was a die hard fan of Michael Jordan but I assure you, Michael Jordan was not his role model.
That's the way it is can't be accepted as that is the way it is. It is up to parenting to teach children what the difference between idolizing someone for their accomplishments in their sport in contrast to considering them a "role model". That latter term should be clearly defined and I bet dollars to donuts, kids will know the difference if properly taught. Mine, who are 25 and 21 did.
I alluded to the pilot earlier because what he did can be considered a "role model".
He didn't score a touchdown or a basket.
He saved lives.
He placed his life on the line to save others.
He was valiant to wait for all to exit and checked twice.
His actions warrant being a role model.
He illustrated composure and valor.
That is what I would teach my children.
ChicagoWhiteSox
02-02-2009, 02:15 PM
I completely disagree.
One thing is to idolize a sports figure for being that, a sports figure.
Another thing is to have that person be your "role model".
My son was a die hard fan of Michael Jordan but I assure you, Michael Jordan was not his role model.
That's the way it is can't be accepted as that is the way it is. It is up to parenting to teach children what the difference between idolizing someone for their accomplishments in their sport in contrast to considering them a "role model". That latter term should be clearly defined and I bet dollars to donuts, kids will know the difference if properly taught. Mine, who are 25 and 21 did.
The definition of a role model is a person whose behavior in a particular role is imitated by others. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/role+model
MJ was and still is a role model for kids. So was Barkley. And so is Phelps. It is the parents responsibility to teach there kids right from wrong. The parents have a responsibility to do that. Phelps worked hard, put in his time and effort and it paid off. He won all of those gold medals. Kids are looking at him and saying to themselves "if i can put effort in and work hard, it will pay off". I look at that as being a role model. But with the drug issue, that is where its the parents responsibility to teach right from wrong. They can pull the plug and tell their kids not to watch him anymore and explain why. Kids look up to people. And i think star players have the most pressure. They have the most light on them because they are good at what they do. They have worked hard and put in effort and it is paying off. Kids see these players doing well and want to do the same. I definately see your side Blueface and agree that parents should ultimatly be the role models. Some Athletes can be good role models for hard work and dedication. :2:2
bazookajoe
02-02-2009, 02:20 PM
Athletes are role models whether they want to be or not. Kids look up to players. Thats just the way it is. It doesnt matter if we think that kids shoudnt consider them role models. A kid playing little league baseball is going to have a MLB player he likes and follows. That player cant control whether or not he wants to be that kids role model. Cal Ripken Jr. addressed the issue of athletes and being role models at his Hall Of Fame Induction--"As years passed, it became clear to me that kids see all, not just some of your actions but all," Ripken said. "Whether we like or not, we big leaguers are role models. The only question is, will it be positive or will it be negative? Should we put players up on pedestals and require that they take responsibility? No. But we should encourage them to use their influence positively to help build up and develop the young people who follow the game. Sports can play a big role in teaching values and principles. Just think. Teamwork, leadership, work ethic and trust are all part of the game, and they are also all factors in what we make of our lives."
http://sportinsociety.blogspot.com/2007/08/are-athletes-role-models.html
I think the point is that we cant force athletes to do the right thing, but we can encourage them to and let them know that they are role models. And i think most of them know that kids follow them. Even though they dont choose to be. Thats how it is. Thats just my opinion:2:2
I agree that to some degree kids choose their own role models, but we're not helpless. Since society reinforces an unhealthy regard for celebrity, we as parents have to infuse some sense of proportion to help our kids mange their expectations. My kids know that it's ok to be in awe of and even try to emulate the accomplishments of their favorite athletes, but also that they're only people, far from perfect, and their personal lives are just as prone to missteps as anyone's. I have more confidence in my ability to help my kids deal with reality than I do in an athlete's ability to avoid temptation. Maybe they can't help being role models, but we can temper the extent of it with our kids.
darb85
02-02-2009, 02:22 PM
Im a swimmer, and a coach. I actually swam against phelps at a national level meet when I was 16. He whopped my ass. I talked to him for a bit and he was kinda a prick, great swimmer yes, but not that nice of a guy. I talked to him some years later when he first entered UofM at a meet and he still was a bit of an ass. Not role model material, and he his a kid like me. Indescretions or what ever, he did something wrong, stepped up and will probably take his licks. Theres something to be respected, but ive never seen him as a role model in the very least. However, when you live in the world we do and are a successful person, you need to live with a higher moral fiber than the rest of us. unfortunatly, people, espessially my 5-18 year olds look up to you, You need to act understanding that.
Partying? who cares, Getting photographed with a bong? probably not a good idea and with todays electroics, youve got to be even more careful.
well have a new thing to talk about tomarrow.
ChicagoWhiteSox
02-02-2009, 02:22 PM
I agree that to some degree kids choose their own role models, but we're not helpless. Since society reinforces an unhealthy regard for celebrity, we as parents have to infuse some sense of proportion to help our kids mange their expectations. My kids know that it's ok to be in awe of and even try to emulate the accomplishments of their favorite athletes, but also that they're only people, far from perfect, and their personal lives are just as prone to missteps as anyone's. I have more confidence in my ability to help my kids deal with reality than I do in an athlete's ability to avoid temptation. Maybe they can't help being role models, but we can temper the extent of it with our kids.
I agree 100%
darb85
02-02-2009, 02:23 PM
I agree that to some degree kids choose their own role models, but we're not helpless. Since society reinforces an unhealthy regard for celebrity, we as parents have to infuse some sense of proportion to help our kids mange their expectations. My kids know that it's ok to be in awe of and even try to emulate the accomplishments of their favorite athletes, but also that they're only people, far from perfect, and their personal lives are just as prone to missteps as anyone's. I have more confidence in my ability to help my kids deal with reality than I do in an athlete's ability to avoid temptation. Maybe they can't help being role models, but we can temper the extent of it with our kids.
Highly agree with my statement!
pnoon
02-02-2009, 03:54 PM
The definition of a role model is a person whose behavior in a particular role is imitated by others. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/role+model
I think what we're debating is what constitutes a positive or preferred role model.
By the strict definition, drug addicts and pedophiles are role models, too.
Flatsix
02-02-2009, 05:37 PM
I have an 8 year old on a swim team that looks up to Michael Phelps as someone that has done something amazing. Phelps is a role model to my swimmer as I am sure that Phelps is a role model to a lot of young swimmers. Kids look to people like Phelps and think that they can accomplish what he has accomplished. Hopefully this blows over because I do not want to have a discussion with Lauren to explain why if drugs are so bad then how did Michael Phelps accomplish what he has accomplished when he is doing drugs.
I completely agree with Bazooka Joes earlier comments. Phelps is just another human prone to mistakes and that there is another lesson hidden in this. Maybe he doesn't want to be a role model but by virtue of what he has accomplished, he is and needs to watch his conduct.
On a lighter note he could still be appear on a cereal box
WEEDIES:r
gettysburgfreak
02-02-2009, 08:50 PM
Wow I always wonder why us normal (not famous) people are shocked when famous celibates are caught doing drugs.They are just like you and me and at age 23 and who can honestly say that they haven't tried/smoked pot at that age. Life is short so live it up and have a ball.
I havent, and I am soon to be 23. Hes got a reputation to uphold. Stupid thing to do IMO. Why risk your rep and or lots of money worth of endorsements?
SeanGAR
02-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Looks like he picked up a new endorsement over this ....
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/okeefes/PhenpsEndoresement.jpg
Vince McMahon of WWF is a worthy role model. Never seen a more hand's on, hard working billionaire and I tip my hat to him (I don't watch wrestling at all).
I knew one of his daughters and he actually came to her apartment to help her move out. She worked a regular job while in college...
get a few of the wrestlers there...should make moving that bed out pretty easy....
ucla695
02-03-2009, 06:41 AM
Now we know why he eats 10,000+ calories a day. :D It's unfortunate. It could have cost him his $5 million+ in sponsorship.
mosesbotbol
02-03-2009, 07:20 AM
get a few of the wrestlers there...should make moving that bed out pretty easy....
My friend Brian was trying to pick up her TV, he was struggling to carry it and Vince said, "Move out of the way..." and carried it himself.
mosesbotbol
02-03-2009, 07:26 AM
I havent, and I am soon to be 23. Hes got a reputation to uphold. Stupid thing to do IMO. Why risk your rep and or lots of money worth of endorsements?
He does not swim for endorsements and never asked to be a role model. Just as some companies won't want to be associated with Phelps, there will be a whole bunch of companies that will want to. The persona that he has now created also has cache.
Phelps is an international icon, and there's plenty of World and Euro brands that aren't concerned about his private matters at all. Some sponsors are using his past time as reason to sever their relationships, while it is really that they want to cut costs and this is a good excuse to save.
He is a swimmer first, and he should not lose sight on that. I would be more concerned with his drunk driving as that is way more serious than smoking pot at a party.
s15driftking
02-03-2009, 07:34 AM
Looks like he picked up a new endorsement over this ....
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/okeefes/PhenpsEndoresement.jpg
Well, at least swiss army can use that pic to plug the watch he's wearing....
My friend Brian was trying to pick up her TV, he was struggling to carry it and Vince said, "Move out of the way..." and carried it himself.
vince was on the juice back then I'm willing to bet. Steph is married to one of the wrestlers now but she's looked better
mosesbotbol
02-03-2009, 07:45 AM
vince was on the juice back then I'm willing to bet. Steph is married to one of the wrestlers now but she's looked better
Corey (sp) is the daughter I knew. For sure he took steroids (perhaps for decades), but I do not consider that a negative. I assume she moved back to CT, my friend was closer to her than I was.
mosesbotbol
02-03-2009, 07:46 AM
Well, at least swiss army can use that pic to plug the watch he's wearing....
He is sponsored by Omega, but I can't tell if that is a Planet Ocean with a diamond bezel?
Corey (sp) is the daughter I knew. For sure he took steroids (perhaps for decades), but I do not consider that a negative. I assume she moved back to CT, my friend was closer to her than I was.
I never said or meant to imply that him being on roids was a bad or negative thing. I don't really care about that, I was just saying that's why he was able to move thigns so well. vince is an amazing business man no doubt
krash
02-03-2009, 10:07 PM
The one positive thing I saw was that he owned up to it. He didn't pull a big smoke and mirror show that would have lasted for weeks. Yes, he made a mistake. He apologized. He will lose money on this and he knows it. His real friends and family will stick by him. He is the greatest swimmer I have ever seen, but I don't consider him a role model. I consider him the greatest swimmer I've ever seen. All of us have made mistakes, we just don't have the international media looking for them.:2
mosesbotbol
02-04-2009, 07:47 AM
Ya know, his stardom was fading slowly anyhow. How many swimming events have you watched outside the Olympics? It's not like Tiger or Jordan who are/were always playing on TV. Phelps fame was just a short period.
His international fame won't be tarnished much, and I think that's where the long dollars are. Just like US celebrities being the spokesperson or advertising in Far East. He's not going to be hurting from this.
Blueface
02-04-2009, 11:39 AM
vince was on the juice back then I'm willing to bet. Steph is married to one of the wrestlers now but she's looked better
Anyone as old as me remembers the WWF way back when Vince McMahon first got involved with them.
The man was a skinny as a tree limb.
I stopped following the WWF and then one day, WHAM!!! Vince McMahon is a monster dressed in a tuxedo.
Steroids? No way.:rolleyes:
For comparison, look at Barry Bonds when he first got in the league as compared to now.
Same with Vince McMahon.
gettysburgfreak
02-05-2009, 05:57 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_sp_ot/swm_phelps_kellogg
Ha I'm glad Kellogg is dropping his ass.
BC-Axeman
02-05-2009, 06:20 PM
As long as he didn't inhale, he's still safe....
well, he could still be President...if he didn't inhale, that is.....
Nowadays he could be president if he inhaled cocaine, well, that is, if he was a ********.
taltos
02-05-2009, 08:47 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_sp_ot/swm_phelps_kellogg
Ha I'm glad Kellogg is dropping his ass.But he's getting the Doritos and Papa John's Pizza accounts instead.:r:r
mosesbotbol
02-06-2009, 06:55 AM
It all doesn't really matter, as his endorsements with Kelloggs couldn't go for ever, an Olympic champion in a sport no one cares about only goes so long. Phelps will have a career in something other than swimming eventually and all the bong hits won't mean much. He has the world in his hand to pursue a career of his choice.
Remember Eric Heiden?
houdini
02-06-2009, 07:05 AM
He's 23....Leave him alone...and legalize it already!
tobii3
02-06-2009, 07:14 AM
Disregard...
I couldn't remember the name of the snowboarder that was stripped of his gold for being stoned.....
adampc22
02-06-2009, 08:31 AM
I am 23 and i have smoked weed wait i carnt remeber if i did silly drugs made my memory go away lololololololol
Powers
02-08-2009, 08:16 PM
i think its hilarious that Kellogg dropped their sponsorship of him when cereal is a classic cure for the munchies
KidRock
02-08-2009, 08:53 PM
"The economy has gotten so bad that Michael Phelps took a job being a life gaurd at snoop dogs house"---The very funny Jay Leno
AD720
02-09-2009, 05:10 AM
Seth Meyers - "Really?" (on Michael Phelps)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2KxXZzoczc&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS252&ei=phyQScXTE-HAtgeQnMGkCw&resnum=0&q=michael&feature=player_embedded
The end is my favorite!
SeanGAR
02-09-2009, 06:05 AM
Seth Meyers - "Really?" (on Michael Phelps)
The end is my favorite!
Exactly ... that was my first thought .. what kind of scumbag chump would take a picture of Phelps smoking a bong and sell it .. little piece of SCHIP.
And for 5 grand?
http://scaq.blogspot.com/2009/02/person-who-sold-phelps-photo-may-have.html
Little punk needs his nose adjusted. If its a girl, nippie twist time.
Course, the big goofy git caused his own problems. Betting on beer pong? Smoking bongs. Big doofus on campus.
Clampdown
02-10-2009, 08:07 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/10/phelps-offered-25k-to-blaze-it-up/
mosesbotbol
02-10-2009, 08:56 AM
Course, the big goofy git caused his own problems. Betting on beer pong? Smoking bongs. Big doofus on campus.
That's what people his age do in college.
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