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Blueface
01-21-2009, 01:51 AM
Well, started with some intense pain a few hours ago that soon subsided tolet me go back to sleep again...........until about 15 minutes ago.

#16 is on its way. Its destiny has been set now.
I wonder what I will name this one?
I wonder if I will be spared from enduring hours of pain or days.
I am seriously thinking about a trip to teh ER right now and the morphine and that buzz to the back of the neck as the injection goes through my veins.
That is probably the only good thing I get out of these darn kidney stones.

Since we are in a new year, I guess that now makes it 16 in 16 yrs.
Happy Birthday Stone!!!......well, soon hopefully.:D

Tio Gato
01-21-2009, 02:55 AM
Ouch! Good Luck with your new little friend.
"And this too shall pass"

newcigarz
01-21-2009, 04:23 AM
Good luck with that Carlos.


Make sure it's taken care of before the 14th. ;)

Sailchaser
01-21-2009, 04:38 AM
May cranberry juice be your new best drink even if it is mixed with vodka, hope the pain is over soon

G G
01-21-2009, 04:48 AM
Had 'em twice myself, and I do not envy you my friend.

68TriShield
01-21-2009, 05:00 AM
Bummer Carlos. Pass that some*****...

mikeyj23
01-21-2009, 05:46 AM
May your offspring be like sand on the shores - hopefully it's that small.

Smokin Gator
01-21-2009, 05:49 AM
Here's to hoping it will "ease" on out!!

Mr.Maduro
01-21-2009, 05:52 AM
Good luck with that Carlos.


Make sure it's taken care of before the 14th. ;)

:tpd:

Blueface
01-21-2009, 05:57 AM
Well guys, painful yes but at least, this one came and went fast.
At 5:05 am, one heck of a monster was born.
The biggest stone I have ever passed by far.
I was quite fortunate that I didn't need to go to the ER.
The aftermath is quite draining.
Need to rest.

mosesbotbol
01-21-2009, 06:09 AM
My co-workers has them 3 times in 2 years... Feel for ya...

68TriShield
01-21-2009, 06:09 AM
Well guys, painful yes but at least, this one came and went fast.
At 5:05 am, one heck of a monster was born.
The biggest stone I have ever passed by far.
I was quite fortunate that I didn't need to go to the ER.
The aftermath is quite draining.
Need to rest.

patink! Good Job Bro :tu

Blueface
01-21-2009, 06:21 AM
While 16 stones is quite an impressive number by any standard, I guess I have a ways to go for the record of 421.

http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news/Thai-Doctors-Removed-421-Kidney-Stones-From-A-Single-Person-8361-1/

Chris.
01-21-2009, 06:32 AM
16!? Dude, you gotta relax some and stop drinking sodas(sugar) and whatnot! I hope everything goes well for you man

Blueface
01-21-2009, 06:45 AM
16!? Dude, you gotta relax some and stop drinking sodas(sugar) and whatnot! I hope everything goes well for you man

Funny you say that.
Has nothing to do with it.
I actually seldom drink soda.
Sugar has no effect on stones.
Stress not found to be related.

They are caused by calcium oxilate.
That is found in just about all foods but specially high on some things such as spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, brussel sprouts, fruits such as strawberries or anything ending in "erries", on and on and on.
In addition, sodium is believed to be a culprit.
If you see the actual list of what one who suffers from stones can in fact eat, the only thing pretty much left on it is water. Heck if I want to live eating water.:D

Some people like me have a chemistry composition that just traps the calcium in the kidney, little by little forming a stone or a few, as opposed to having the kidney let the oxilate escape via the urine. I am actually on medication to assist in the prevention of them. That lasted since July when I had my last one. I guess the bright side is I had 6 months or so stone free.

Well, as tired as I am, tried going back to sleep for a while but that is just not going to happen.

Skywalker
01-21-2009, 07:13 AM
Poor guy!!!

Sounds like you're doing a little better!

mash
01-21-2009, 07:43 AM
Glad it's over for you. Hopefully you'll be good for a while.

Ashcan Bill
01-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Glad you're okay and past this one. :tu Another of the assorted tribulations life throws our way.

Kreth
01-21-2009, 08:00 AM
I feel for you. I had a stone several years ago and I *never* want to go through that again.

icehog3
01-21-2009, 08:29 AM
I feel your pain, Carlos.....glad this one passed quickly.

Scottw
01-21-2009, 08:32 AM
Glad it passed Carlos. What a pain in the ***k huh?

piperman
01-21-2009, 08:47 AM
You know maybe you ought to change your diet, :hm but what to I know, I think I have had four in the last four years.:bh

markem
01-21-2009, 08:48 AM
Well guys, painful yes but at least, this one came and went fast.
At 5:05 am, one heck of a monster was born.


Name it Cheney... :D

Glad it was over relatively fast, Carlos. Also hope that the kidney stone factory ceases production!

Blueface
01-21-2009, 08:49 AM
You know maybe you ought to change your diet, :hm but what to I know, I think I have had four in the last four years.:bh

You have no idea how many times I have been there, done that in the last 16 yrs.
I have been told I qualify as "chronic".
Diet doesn't seem to slow them down so gave up eating water for the most part and went back to real food.
Drugs don't seem to be helping either. I am on hydrochlorothiazide and still got them again.
Good thing they didn't also say "contagious".:r

I was supposed to do one of those 24 hr urine observations/test and never did.
I think this one will get me to piss in that container for the next 24 hrs and send it in to be further analyzed.

Blueface
01-21-2009, 08:55 AM
The real funny thing here is my brother in law in NJ competes with me.
He started it.
I then go my first after him.
After that, I have always maintained the lead, with him following close behind.
Can't wait to call him and break the news to him.
He will immediately realize that means his is around the corner.
Must be something in the Cuban blood that we both produce so many.
Perhaps the common trait is we are married to sisters.
THAT's IT!!!
It is our wives that cause them.
Darn, the answer was right before my eyes the whole time.:r:r:r

icehog3
01-21-2009, 08:58 AM
When I had my longest running one (intermittant, medium pain instead of the gut wrenching agony that some of them brought), the doctor gave me a strainer to "catch" the stone in.

After a week and a half of taking the thing everywhere....restaurants, friends' homes, work, etc....I said **** it.

hotreds
01-21-2009, 09:00 AM
Glad the latest one was birthed- hope future ones will be few and far between. ¡Buene suerte, amigo!

replicant_argent
01-21-2009, 09:01 AM
I always tell people you have the biggest stones of all.
What do you carry them around in, a kevlar sack?

Glad to hear it was a quick one, buddy. May your MTBD be long.

Kreth
01-21-2009, 09:13 AM
When I had my longest running one (intermittant, medium pain instead of the gut wrenching agony that some of them brought), the doctor gave me a strainer to "catch" the stone in.
I went to emergency room with mine. I was in so much pain I couldn't stand up straight. They had me do the strainer thing, and when it finally passed, I was like "Are you f**king kidding me?!" I guess I was expecting a boulder. :r

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:15 AM
the doctor gave me a strainer to "catch" the stone in.

After a week and a half of taking the thing everywhere....restaurants, friends' homes, work, etc....I said **** it.

:r:r:r

Been there, many times.

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:17 AM
I went to emergency room with mine. I was in so much pain I couldn't stand up straight. They had me do the strainer thing, and when it finally passed, I was like "Are you f**king kidding me?!" I guess I was expecting a boulder. :r

Most folks have the same initial experience.
I have found the smaller they are, the more painful.
The tiny ones have a tendency to have sharp edges and move around quite a bit, hence cutting you up inside.
The bigger ones are more "docile" and generally drop a whole lot faster.
The problem is when they get so big you can't pass them.
The method they use for getting them out is not humane, or at least, not even remotely comprehensible to the average person.

Kreth
01-21-2009, 09:19 AM
The method they use for getting them out is not humane.
Please don't elaborate. :eek:

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:21 AM
Please don't elaborate. :eek:

:r:r:r

No way.
I still shiver when I recall that bastage doing that to me.
I felt dirty afterwards.:r

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:23 AM
OK,
Time to get sick.
Will photo the newborn and show the world.:r:r:r

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:40 AM
WARNING!!! STONES!!!

The newborn, "Jupiter", is on the left.
As you can see, a healthy, 1/8" baby. However, he does look like that sphere in Star Wars after it got partially blown up.
For comparison, "Pluto", is on the right. Pluto was born in July, the second stone I passed in a 48 hour period.















http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/CSC_0007.jpg

Genetic Defect
01-21-2009, 09:44 AM
the first 15 were exiting, now this is getting old ;)

replicant_argent
01-21-2009, 09:44 AM
sweet mother of God.


Shivers a little.

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:45 AM
the first 15 were exiting, now this is getting old ;)

:r:r:r
You should try being on this end.:r

Genetic Defect
01-21-2009, 09:45 AM
:r:r:r
You should try being on this end.:r

no thanks I lived through several of them with you :ss

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:47 AM
no thanks I lived through several of them with you :ss

Nope. Won't let you off that easy Perry.
You want to hear about someone enjoying an old Cuban Dunhill or you want to experience it yourself to really know the feeling?

Genetic Defect
01-21-2009, 09:48 AM
Nope. Won't let you off that easy Perry.
You want to hear about someone enjoying an old Cuban Dunhill or you want to experience it yourself to really know the feeling?

If thats what it takes to enjoy a Cuban Dunhill I will be happy reading reviews

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:49 AM
If thats what it takes to enjoy a Cuban Dunhill I will be happy reading reviews

If that is what it takes, I guess I have 16 of them stashed away somewhere.:D

Genetic Defect
01-21-2009, 10:15 AM
If that is what it takes, I guess I have 16 of them stashed away somewhere.:D

I look forward to the reviews

Mr.Maduro
01-21-2009, 10:20 AM
Carlos, try waving your white flag....that seems to have gotten you out of trouble in the past!! :rolleyes::r

LordOfWu
01-21-2009, 10:25 AM
I'm not at 16, but over halfway there! I definitely feel your pain and I'm glad for you it's over...good luck man!

Blueface
01-21-2009, 10:29 AM
Carlos, try waving your white flag....that seems to have gotten you out of trouble in the past!! :rolleyes::r

:fu:fu:
:r

rizzle
01-21-2009, 10:34 AM
the first 15 were exiting, now this is getting old ;)

I'm sure Carlos is hoping all of them are EXITING. And it is probably EXCITING for him when they do. :dance::r

Good God Carlos, that thing is huge!! I've only ever had one of these and hope like hell I never have another one. I was at work and they took me to the ER. I was white as a sheet. They took me back and told me to piss in a cup and this rock came rolling out. I was like, are you kidding me? This is what was making me think I was dying? I couldn't imagine having one as big as what you passed.

Blueface
01-21-2009, 10:37 AM
I'm sure Carlos is hoping all of them are EXITING. And it is probably EXCITING for him when they do. :dance::r

Good God Carlos, that thing is huge!! I've only ever had one of these and hope like hell I never have another one. I was at work and they took me to the ER. I was white as a sheet. They took me back and told me to piss in a cup and this rock came rolling out. I was like, are you kidding me? This is what was making me think I was dying? I couldn't imagine having one as big as what you passed.

All of you that have posted that have passed at least one can certainly imagine.
I am so glad I am able to laugh about it after only four hours or so of "labor".
Last July, spent three trips to the ER of at least 6 hours each and lots of morphine and IV's, all in a 48 hour period to pass two stones.
This one was easy and the bigger they are, believe it or not, the less painful.

Jay Hemingway
01-21-2009, 11:02 AM
do you have a little jar that you keep them all in?

Cyclone
01-21-2009, 11:22 AM
Well, started with some intense pain a few hours ago that soon subsided tolet me go back to sleep again...........until about 15 minutes ago.

#16 is on its way. Its destiny has been set now.
I wonder what I will name this one?
I wonder if I will be spared from enduring hours of pain or days.
I am seriously thinking about a trip to teh ER right now and the morphine and that buzz to the back of the neck as the injection goes through my veins.
That is probably the only good thing I get out of these darn kidney stones.

Since we are in a new year, I guess that now makes it 16 in 16 yrs.
Happy Birthday Stone!!!......well, soon hopefully.:D

Damn...

From the title of the thread, I initially thought you were talking about children... :D:D:D

Apparently, it is like giving birth... My Dad had them...

Hope you feel better soon!

Genetic Defect
01-21-2009, 12:16 PM
I'm sure Carlos is hoping all of them are EXITING. And it is probably EXCITING for him when they do. :dance::r

Good God Carlos, that thing is huge!! I've only ever had one of these and hope like hell I never have another one. I was at work and they took me to the ER. I was white as a sheet. They took me back and told me to piss in a cup and this rock came rolling out. I was like, are you kidding me? This is what was making me think I was dying? I couldn't imagine having one as big as what you passed.

geez good catch rimshot :rolleyes:

rizzle
01-21-2009, 12:32 PM
geez good catch rimshot :rolleyes:

Meh, it worked. You're welcome.;)

Blueface
01-21-2009, 12:36 PM
Damn...

From the title of the thread, I initially thought you were talking about children... :D:D:D

Apparently, it is like giving birth... My Dad had them...

Hope you feel better soon!

They ARE my children.
I love all 16 of them just as much as the other.:r

A nurse once told me she did both. She gave birth to three kids and passed two stones.
She said the pain was equal. At least with the childbirth, she had something wonderful to show for it.
Look at me. All I have is a bunch of rocks.:r

Jbailey
01-21-2009, 12:41 PM
Sorry to hear about #16, but glad it went quick for you Carlos.

Chris.
01-21-2009, 08:14 PM
Funny you say that.
Has nothing to do with it.
I actually seldom drink soda.
Sugar has no effect on stones.
Stress not found to be related.

They are caused by calcium oxilate.
That is found in just about all foods but specially high on some things such as spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, brussel sprouts, fruits such as strawberries or anything ending in "erries", on and on and on.
In addition, sodium is believed to be a culprit.
If you see the actual list of what one who suffers from stones can in fact eat, the only thing pretty much left on it is water. Heck if I want to live eating water.:D

Some people like me have a chemistry composition that just traps the calcium in the kidney, little by little forming a stone or a few, as opposed to having the kidney let the oxilate escape via the urine. I am actually on medication to assist in the prevention of them. That lasted since July when I had my last one. I guess the bright side is I had 6 months or so stone free.

Well, as tired as I am, tried going back to sleep for a while but that is just not going to happen.

o really? I was always told that stones had a lot to do with stress and sodas and such. Maybe just a myth to keep kids from drinking soda, but I only drink tea and water most of the time. I rarely drink a soda. glad to hear you got it done without an ER visit though!

RGD.
01-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Damn - 16. I'm just about ready to cry for you!

I have had three of them myself. First one to the ER - second one was all natural at home pain - third one was an all nighter in the ER. And that last one gave me pain for a little over three weeks before it passed. To small to zap they told me - but an extremely slow mover.

Anyway - that was in April 2004 so I'm going on 5 years stone free.



Ron

Blueface
01-21-2009, 08:41 PM
o really? I was always told that stones had a lot to do with stress and sodas and such. Maybe just a myth to keep kids from drinking soda, but I only drink tea and water most of the time. I rarely drink a soda. glad to hear you got it done without an ER visit though!

Yeah, there are so many myths on this stuff.
One of the most common is the Cranberry juice.
My Urologist tells me it is actually worse for stones.
Go figure.

butterB
01-21-2009, 08:45 PM
My stones were because of my salt intake. The last one i had, i smoked the other leaf to get through it. That one was a home delivery. I do not wish this pain upon anybody

Chris.
01-21-2009, 09:32 PM
cranberry juice causing them or preventing them? I've been drinking the hell out of cranberry juice lately. forgot to mention that in my drink list.

lenguamor
01-21-2009, 09:39 PM
Damn, brother. You're cursed with these.

Good thing your life is blessed in so many other ways.

Blueface
01-21-2009, 09:41 PM
cranberry juice causing them or preventing them? I've been drinking the hell out of cranberry juice lately. forgot to mention that in my drink list.

According to my uroligist, cranberry juice is worse for it.

Damn, brother. You're cursed with these.

Good thing your life is blessed in so many other ways.

Very true on both counts.

smokeyandthebandit05
01-21-2009, 09:52 PM
Oh man seein those pics I scrolled down and had to scroll back up. After seein a bunch of guys on here and CS having these things I can only hope I never have to deal with them or by the time Im a FOG they have some super easy way of getting rid of them

STYX&STONED
01-22-2009, 05:35 AM
461 is nothing. I have to be well over 700 life time for these little bastards. Passed 14 just in the year of 08 and have already passed 2 on the 6th & 7th of this month. Just photoed and weighed the last 3 years worth @ 6.628 grams. Photo to come.

Chris.
01-22-2009, 05:44 AM
461 is nothing compared to 700+, but the article said they pulled 461 all at one time. I can't imagine the pains.

STYX&STONED
01-22-2009, 05:54 AM
Blueface is correct.. There are many of us who's bodies can just not seem to work this out no matter the diet or meds. I've been doing this for 25 years none stop with my longest break between stones being only 3 months. and my kidney has shut down 3 times due to stones. The picture below shows what I have passed here at the office in the past 3 years. the 4 larger stones are just a bit bigger than a pencil eraser.
416 my ass being pulled threw a scope in your back aint ****. Try passing these big boys threw the head of your pee bug!!!!http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=107&pictureid=1156

Blueface
01-22-2009, 06:17 AM
461 is nothing. I have to be well over 700 life time for these little bastards. Passed 14 just in the year of 08 and have already passed 2 on the 6th & 7th of this month. Just photoed and weighed the last 3 years worth @ 6.628 grams. Photo to come.

Man, misery loves company.:D

While some on here have passed a few, and that in no way is an easy feat of any kind as one stone is frankly one too many and as such, I will never even infer to trivialize that in any way, few know what it is to be chronic sufferer.

I am astonished to actually communicate with someone who has had this condition of mine to such a level even I can't possibly imagine.
MY GOD do you give me a whole new perspective. Not that I have ever complained about why me. I don't see it that way at all. "Why me" won't solve crap and won't ease the pain when they come. Folks like us just somehow learn to accept this as part of life and we deal with it.
In my case, I know on average, once a year, I will have one.
Unfortunately, there have been three in the last 6 months or so but on the positive side, I am hopefully looking forward to another three yearr break as I recall having until this past July.

You on the other hand are something else and truly a chronic sufferer if ever one. My heart goes out to you.
Again, knowing first hand what this stuff is like on a regular basis, I am truly, truly, truly amazed.

STYX&STONED
01-22-2009, 06:34 AM
There are a few things I have learned when it comes to dealing with these bad boys.
1. If you go to the hospital for the pain, they want to dope you up and admit you for days until it passes. That cost a lot of $ and to me, is a HUGE waste of time.
2. If you know its coming, stay active and on your feet while increasing your liquid intake. Being up moving around and doing your best to keep up with the days work load will help it pass much faster.
3. Believe it or not, the big ones cause more pressure pain while slowing the flow of pee but the little ones with the jagged edges:bh make me want to punch things.
& last but not least
4. As most of you look at those pictures and say, "you poor SOB"... I have learned to deal with this form of pain and if given something to deal with for my entire life...I'll take what I've been given. There are many other people out there that suffer from other forms of chronic pain that I do not believe I could handle as well as I do the kidney stone pain. And it could be worse than this, at least it not terminal just chronic.

Blueface
01-22-2009, 06:54 AM
There are a few things I have learned when it comes to dealing with these bad boys.
1. If you go to the hospital for the pain, they want to dope you up and admit you for days until it passes. That cost a lot of $ and to me, is a HUGE waste of time.
2. If you know its coming, stay active and on your feet while increasing your liquid intake. Being up moving around and doing your best to keep up with the days work load will help it pass much faster.
3. Believe it or not, the big ones cause more pressure pain while slowing the flow of pee but the little ones with the jagged edges:bh make me want to punch things.
& last but not least
4. As most of you look at those pictures and say, "you poor SOB"... I have learned to deal with this form of pain and if given something to deal with for my entire life...I'll take what I've been given. There are many other people out there that suffer from other forms of chronic pain that I do not believe I could handle as well as I do the kidney stone pain. And it could be worse than this, at least it not terminal just chronic.

All valid points. While the bigger ones do cause more pressure, I have found the smaller ones with those jagged edges to be the real painful ones.

As far as hospital, I have to admit that out of my 16, I have gone to the ER about 5 or 6 times.
The ones in July landed me there whether I wanted it or not. I was vomiting so much and so uncontrolled, as the pain intensified, that I was very dehydrated and came close to losing consciousness. It is a very good thing I went. I could not hold down water and as you know, that is the number cure for a stone. So, you have to know when to run for that morphine and IV but most can be passed at home.

Oh.......and I did have that magical one back in 2003 that they had to go in manually through the opening on my you know what and extract it. I had spent 13 days trying to pass it on my own as I refused to listen to the Dr. and let him go in and get it. I finally couldn't take it anymore and agreed to be admitted for the procedure. Thank God I was knocked out for that one or I would have knocked him out. I flew cross country with that stone. You should see what it feels like at 35,000 feet.

Hey, I feel like I found a support group.:D

Kreth
01-22-2009, 07:43 AM
Oh.......and I did have that magical one back in 2003 that they had to go in manually through the opening on my you know what and extract it.
Didn't I ask nicely that you not elaborate? :r

rizzle
01-22-2009, 09:32 AM
Oh man seein those pics I scrolled down and had to scroll back up. After seein a bunch of guys on here and CS having these things I can only hope I never have to deal with them or by the time Im a FOG they have some super easy way of getting rid of them

Bro, being a FOG ain't got nothing to do with it.
:D

rizzle
01-22-2009, 09:34 AM
Blueface is correct.. There are many of us who's bodies can just not seem to work this out no matter the diet or meds. I've been doing this for 25 years none stop with my longest break between stones being only 3 months. and my kidney has shut down 3 times due to stones. The picture below shows what I have passed here at the office in the past 3 years. the 4 larger stones are just a bit bigger than a pencil eraser.
416 my ass being pulled threw a scope in your back aint ****. Try passing these big boys threw the head of your pee bug!!!!http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=107&pictureid=1156

Wow. Just. Wow.