It's happend

[DrDubzz]

you know... over there... at that place

[dunng]

First time I checked that site in quite a bit... :ss

[DrDubzz]

I pop in regularly for the pipe forum...

[Cigargal]

wonder how long it will take....

[schnell987]

It all begins tomorrow morning at 9:00 am. But we're safe here. :D

[G G]

Down temporarily while blah blah.

[Blueface]

It has been happening for a while now.

Lets all sing together.

Puff, the magic dragon, lived by the sea.....................

[DrDubzz]

It all begins tomorrow morning at 9:00 am. But we're safe here. :D

I saw your location, and thought it was your post count.

I about shat myself

[Yazzie]

Rip :ss

[cricky101]

I'm listening to the "puffcast" with Dave right now. Weird.

[elderboy02]

I am so glad we have this place. Thanks team of 11!

[BamBam]

It's like watching the last little bit of Titanic go beneath the water line

[Blueface]

It's like watching the last little bit of Titanic go beneath the water line

Same sense I got.
It is like the home you grew up in being torn down to make room for a mall.

[14holestogie]

100 days, almost. A pretty good run. A moment of silence, if you please.;)

[MikeyC]

To be totally honest, I like CA better than CS even pre-Jon Caputo. I have almost as many posts here in just a few months as I did in over a year on CS.

[chippewastud79]

And so they ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again. A sad, sad day.

I am sure Jon will be making up SN's and posting "Hi, New guy from ......" Threads for quite some time. :hn

[chippewastud79]

To be totally honest, I like CA better than CS even pre-Jon Caputo. I have almost as many posts here in just a few months as I did in over a year on CS.

Thats called post whoring. Also see: Elderboy02 :D

[BamBam]

Same sense I got.
It is like the home you grew up in being torn down to make room for a mall.


Couldn't have put it better :tu

RIP Lowland Louie.....1997 - 2009

I also would like to thank the 11 for creating a home for us Refugee'd Gorillas :salute:

[G G]

To be totally honest, I like CA better than CS even pre-Jon Caputo. I have almost as many posts here in just a few months as I did in over a year on CS.

Me too Mikey, me too.

[Yazzie]

Thats called post whoring. :D

What is this "Post Whoring" you refer to :ss

[Ace$nyper]

Feels ironic seeing this again, stuff like this just happened with the other forum site I'm on.

It was a lot uglier and just ... real nasty all over, still not done though.

All breaks down members make a site. Not that I ever had problems on the other site, this site has a lot warmer feel, as I'm getting to know everyone more I feel more welcome and equal here :).

[Yazzie]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if this is just getting off the ground, what is with this claim.... Quote from the website of puff.com

"We are the largest online cigar network on the internet with over 50,000 unique visitors per day (Google Analytics)."

[G G]

What is this "Post Whoring" you refer to :ss

Yeah none of us Massholes know nothing about that, adopted, honorary or otherwise.:r

[G G]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if this is just getting off the ground, what is with this claim.... Quote from the website of puff.com

"We are the largest online cigar network on the internet with over 50,000 unique visitors per day (Google Analytics)."

Fluff for Puff, my man.:D

[Tenor CS]

I am sure Jon will be making up SN's and posting "Hi, New guy from ......" Threads for quite some time. :hn

That would explain all of the "Hey, it's almost my birthday, let me post a countdown" and "Boo hoo, I'm only 18, and CI says I need to be 21 to order" posts. I was so darn sick of those! I thought cigars were for grown-ups, which in my mind, is not just a number, but also a mindset. If your post contains the phrase, "My mom won't let me [fill in the blank]" maybe you should wait a while before you pursue this great hobby.

RIP, Club Stogie. It was there that I met all of the people that I got to meet in person at the Epic Ybor Herf, as well as the Florida guys that I have herfed with in person, and the Tulip Twins, who I hope to meet in person soon.


I remember, ChasDen gave me my first bomb, and my trades with Savor the Stick, gnukfu, and Alley00p. And Bao kicked my a$$ thoroughly too!

[chippewastud79]

"Like the perfect cigar, the smoker’s lifestyle is a rich and well-blended mixture of the all the finest ingredients. At Puff Lifestyle, we discuss the finer things in life: the most luxurious hotels, the finest wines, 5-star dining, the hottest wheels, insane watches, really cool lighters, hand carved cedar humidors, and of course – the best cigars. Come, live the life of a true cigar connoisseur. Puff Lifestyle – the sky is the limit."

Sounds like an online version of Mr. Marvin Shanken

[groogs]

I am so glad we have this place. Thanks team of 11!

:tpd: Thank God the Team of 11 gave us a new home.

[DrDubzz]

Inhale Life everyone!

[lightning9191]

:tpd: Thank God the Team of 11 gave us a new home.

A huge thanx....after checking out the "Puff Lifestyle" ("the most luxurious hotels, the finest wines, 5-star dining, the hottest wheels, insane watches, really cool lighters, hand carved cedar humidors, and of course – the best cigars.") I don't think I'll fit in as a grad student with my sweet Tercel and Timex watch (I still think they are hot and insane).

[MikeyC]

What is this "Post Whoring" you refer to :ss

I too am curious. Please tell me more . . .

[elderboy02]

Thats called post whoring. Also see: Elderboy02 :D

:r Thats Mr. Postwhore

[awsmith4]

I too am curious. Please tell me more . . .

A few of us had a discussion on this topic recently while herfing on Skype and determined that since 'whoring' implied getting paid, we are more accurately post sluts.

[mrreindeer]

Inhale Life everyone!

Now that was funny! :r:r

Fellers, I haven't been around as long as a lot of you guys and I certainly appreciate your frustration with all that happened. But I just think it's a bit presumptuous to think that the things we appreciated at the original CS are now gone forever and maybe even a little sad that you've completely written off the place and are looking forward to its demise. I think it makes complete sense to be concerned when your 'home' is (I wouldn't say taken away from you but) 'changed' but that's just my :2 and well, what do I know. I've been anxious though, like you guys, to see the change. It'll be an interesting week! Oh, and don't get me wrong, I love CA and all that the Amazing 11 have done to create this great place.

[MikeyC]

I feel like the "Pimp Stick" is going to be the #1 cigar on Puff.com. Based on what I'm seeing so far, I have no desire to be a part of that site any longer. The spirit and feel of CS definitely faded when everyone left, but the PUff.com "feel" so far seems totally different.

A few of us had a discussion on this topic recently while herfing on Skype and determined that since 'whoring' implied getting paid, we are more accurately post sluts.

I prefer to think of myself as a post-stud. :cb

[hotreds]

Bottom line: CS was my first "cigar" home, and as such, I'll miss it, and am saddened by its demise. Like most here(all?!) I am very thankful that the team of 11 decided to keep the spirit of CS continuing here at CA. Thanks guys! The king is dead, long live the king!

[mrreindeer]

I prefer to think of myself as a post-stud. :cb

:r:r I like it.

[Da Klugs]

:tpd: Thank God the Team of 11 gave us a new home.

We just set-up an alternative software environment. Y'all made it a/your/our home. Sad day the end of CS. For me that was 10/14 so pretty much over it now. Lots of old memories from the interaction there. New memories, old and new friends here so .... best wishes to Kpuffville.

Never really "got" the brotherly intent of buying the #'s 3,6 and 16th largest cigar sites, merging them and creating the... # 3 largest cigar site. It's either genius beyond which us community members have a view of or.... just a play into the popularity of "Social communities" that is a roll-up and flip plan for an opportunist.

Time will tell.

Regards,
Da Klugs-CS
or is that..
Da Klugs-CL ;)

[Sauer Grapes]

What sites are numbers 1-5?

[G G]

Now that was funny! :r:r
But I just think it's a bit presumptuous to think that the things we appreciated at the original CS are now gone forever and maybe even a little sad that you've completely written off the place and are looking forward to its demise.

I pared this down to home in on the part I wanted to answer to. I don't think anyone is really looking forward to the demise. I feel that most of us are trying to put humor in something that is sad for most of us, or at least started out that way. Now we have CA thanks to the 11, and I agree with you that I love this place as well. It is much more homey to me than CS was, maybe that's because I was involved here from the get go. Not sure about everyone's feelings but that's my :2. And I don't think I have written it off just moved on.:)

[Whee]

A few of us had a discussion on this topic recently while herfing on Skype and determined that since 'whoring' implied getting paid, we are more accurately post sluts.

:r:r

We have a winner!

[Whee]

ooohhh, database error in the forums link. Must still be putting the new paint on the ol' place.

[borndead1]

"Like the perfect cigar, the smoker’s lifestyle is a rich and well-blended mixture of the all the finest ingredients. At Puff Lifestyle, we discuss the finer things in life: the most luxurious hotels, the finest wines, 5-star dining, the hottest wheels, insane watches, really cool lighters, hand carved cedar humidors, and of course – the best cigars. Come, live the life of a true cigar connoisseur. Puff Lifestyle – the sky is the limit."



What the f**k...

I only plan on doing 2 things at a hotel: sleeping and humping. Luxury? Why.

5 star dining to me is a steak that I grill on my balcony and enjoy while watching The Simpsons.

BAH...I could go on and on but I won't. Why bother.


And I still maintain that Caputo should have done a little more research on the term "puff lifestyle"...the Brits here at CA know what I mean! :r

[Smokin Gator]

I was only on CS for a couple of months before the announcement. I still check in over there a time or two a day. That being said... I feel for all of my friends/brothers/sisters here who had much invested in CS. I truly appreciate what we have here, but I also know that there are many of you who just cannot stomach even a visit.

can tell you though... the look of the new site is not me at all.

[G G]

I was only on CS for a couple of months before the announcement. I still check in over there a time or two a day. That being said... I feel for all of my friends/brothers/sisters here who had much invested in CS. I truly appreciate what we have here, but I also know that there are many of you who just cannot stomach even a visit.

can tell you though... the look of the new site is not me at all.

I couldn't agree with you more Brent.:tu

[GTsetGO]

i went through a "buy out" on another forum that I am an admin on (not a cigar site) and luckily the new owners left everything to the existing staff to run. Nothing has changed except for who owns the joint.

Sorry to see that some other "new" owners of a site couldn't use that philosophy

[Starscream]

100 days, almost. A pretty good run. A moment of silence, if you please.;)

...




:salute:It's been fun.

[Smokin Gator]

I couldn't agree with you more Brent.:tu

That is twice in one day that Greg has agreed with me... I am getting a little freaked out!!!:confused:

[G G]

That is twice in one day that Greg has agreed with me... I am getting a little freaked out!!!:confused:

Kinda freaky huh? Since we will never agree on college football I guess it's nice that we can agree on other things.:r

[Whee]

I was only on CS for a couple of months before the announcement. I still check in over there a time or two a day. That being said... I feel for all of my friends/brothers/sisters here who had much invested in CS. I truly appreciate what we have here, but I also know that there are many of you who just cannot stomach even a visit.

can tell you though... the look of the new site is not me at all.

Seems awfully cluttered on the front page. But it's new, so maybe it'll get cleaned up. Kinda leans to the Afficionado Lite direction doesn't it?:hm

[Da Klugs]

There's like 13 ad's plus "content ads" on the homepage. :r

It's cigarlive renamed PUff with the CS post content to be rolled in.

[Starscream]

She's up and running here:

http://www.puff.com/

Forums are not running yet though.

[schnell987]

Bottom line: CS was my first "cigar" home, and as such, I'll miss it, and am saddened by its demise. Like most here(all?!) I am very thankful that the team of 11 decided to keep the spirit of CS continuing here at CA. Thanks guys! The king is dead, long live the king!

I agree.

Our old neighborhood changed, but we we've been blessed with a new & better one, thanks to the team of 11. Thanks, guys! :salute:

[Whee]

There's like 13 ad's plus "content ads" on the homepage. :r

It's cigarlive renamed PUff with the CS post content to be rolled in.


i was thinking the same thing. They seemed to kinda close from reading various posts here and there.

[mrreindeer]

I pared this down to home in on the part I wanted to answer to. I don't think anyone is really looking forward to the demise. I feel that most of us are trying to put humor in something that is sad for most of us, or at least started out that way. Now we have CA thanks to the 11, and I agree with you that I love this place as well. It is much more homey to me than CS was, maybe that's because I was involved here from the get go. Not sure about everyone's feelings but that's my :2. And I don't think I have written it off just moved on.:)

Fair 'nuff....... :tu:tu

[Starscream]

Don't think I' gonna be frequenting that spot anymore. Looks like a bunch of garbage to me. But I'll give it a fair shot.






Like many others have said, Thank you Team of 11!

[mrreindeer]

And I still maintain that Caputo should have done a little more research on the term "puff lifestyle"...the Brits here at CA know what I mean! :r

:r:r:r

[Blueface]

Well, tried out of curiosity.
Seems my old user name and password are not good anymore.

[DrDubzz]

And I still maintain that Caputo should have done a little more research on the term "puff lifestyle"...the Brits here at CA know what I mean! :r

nope, I think he hit the nail on the head

[Whee]

Well, tried out of curiosity.
Seems my old user name and password are not good anymore.


tried mine, but nothing happened. Maybe it's because of the CS side being down at the moment. While the main page seems a bit "commercial", I will be interested in seeing how the CS side looks when it comes back up.

[Starscream]

Well, tried out of curiosity.
Seems my old user name and password are not good anymore.

:tpd:

Aren't we supposed to type in our username@clubstogie?

I tried that too, but it didn't work.

[PaleRider]

Well, IMO it isn't the software that makes the community. It's the members. I have alot of love for my botl from CS. I hope that we are all able to find a place to call "home". Where ever it is, and where ever my Brothers may be, I will be also. Just my :2

[Blueface]

I have alot of love for my botl from CS. I hope that we are all able to find a place to call "home". Where ever it is, and where ever my Brothers may be, I will be also. Just my :2

What do you mean?
What is CA?

[Starscream]

What do you mean?
What is CA?

:tpd:

[VirtualSmitty]

"Like the perfect cigar, the smoker’s lifestyle is a rich and well-blended mixture of the all the finest ingredients. At Puff Lifestyle, we discuss the finer things in life: the most luxurious hotels, the finest wines, 5-star dining, the hottest wheels, insane watches, really cool lighters, hand carved cedar humidors, and of course – the best cigars. Come, live the life of a true cigar connoisseur. Puff Lifestyle – the sky is the limit."

Sounds like an online version of Mr. Marvin Shanken

Quite the change from Club Stogies old no snob policy. It's sad to see but i'm honestly over it. Was kinda hard at first but now just about everyone I knew and had met at CS over the last three years came over here. I haven't been back there in some time.

Huzzah to the Asylum ;):usa

[awsmith4]

I wonder if all those folks that were mad when the migration started still believe nothing will change :rolleyes:

[DrDubzz]

Personally I can't wait to talk about hotels and "really cool" lighters

"check out this awesome case I bought for my bic!"

"has anyone been to a new Ritz Carlton?"
"OMG Ritz FTW!"

[Starscream]

I wonder if all those folks that were mad when the migration started still believe nothing will change :rolleyes:

Forget about them. If they didn't wanna come over here, then so be it. Their loss.

[Starscream]

Personally I can't wait to talk about hotels and "really cool" lighters

"check out this awesome case I bought for my bic!"

"has anyone been to a new Ritz Carlton?"
"OMG Ritz FTW!"
You forgot about bragging rights as to who has the biggest private jet.

[DrDubzz]

You forgot about bragging rights as to who has the biggest private jet.

my jet has bigger privates than yours!

[borndead1]

Quite the change from Club Stogies old no snob policy.

A total 180 really.

Kinda off-putting as well, to me anyway. Sounds like a club for rich folks.

[Starscream]

my jet has bigger privates than yours!

It might be longer, but my jet has more girth.;)

[DrDubzz]

It might be longer, but my jet has more girth.;)

perhaps, but mine has a bigger fuel tank, so it can stay in flight longer :ss

[G G]

Fair 'nuff....... :tu:tu

Thanks friend.:ss

[Starscream]

perhaps, but mine has a bigger fuel tank, so it can stay in flight longer :ss

:tg

[Starscream]

Still waiting to see what the forums will look like.

[VirtualSmitty]

A total 180 really.

Kinda off-putting as well, to me anyway. Sounds like a club for rich folks.

Yeah, sounds like an elitist fanboy club now. I guess since I normally stay at Holiday Inn expresses when I travel, have a 4 dollar Ronson lighter, haven't gotten around to buying a yacht yet, don't even own a watch, rarely go out to a 5 star restaurant, drive a Nissan, like beer better than wine, that i'm not welcome anymore. I just ain't living the puff lifestyle fellers!

I am curious about the best cigars part though. This being my first visit to Puff, I stumbled on this and laughed so hard I damn near blew beer out my nose!

Puffy the cigar inhaling puffer fish
Gurkha makes some of the rarest and most unique cigars on the market. Their use of some of the world’s best aged tobacco puts them at the top of the industry and with limited production runs, each cigar is rolled with precision and detail, ensuring a strict level of quality control.

:r

[M1903A1]

Couldn't have put it better :tu

RIP Lowland Louie.....1997 - 2009

I also would like to thank the 11 for creating a home for us Refugee'd Gorillas :salute:

Hmm, there's an image for us...an exiled Lowland Louie standing on the shoreline with a suitcase in hand, looking at the sunset with a tear in his eye....

[SmokeyJoe]

Same sense I got.
It is like the home you grew up in being torn down to make room for a mall.

Good analogy, Carlos... I am thankful for all I learned there and the folks I met. The Asylum feels a lot more like home now. :ss

[AD720]

Hmm, there's an image for us...an exiled Lowland Louie standing on the shoreline with a suitcase in hand, looking at the sunset with a tear in his eye....

I have to guess Lowland Louie is now a registered trademark of the Puff.com empire.
:rolleyes:

[M1903A1]

Never really "got" the brotherly intent of buying the #'s 3,6 and 16th largest cigar sites, merging them and creating the... # 3 largest cigar site.

I knew there was a reason I left up my tagline "Penn Central lives!" over there!

(You trainbuffs, northeasterners and business-history types will know what I mean! :rolleyes:)

[lenguamor]

Same sense I got.
It is like the home you grew up in being torn down to make room for a mall.

That is exactly what it's like.

[elderboy02]

Wow! Puff is a horrible looking site :pu

[icehog3]

Gurkha makes some of the rarest and most unique cigars on the market. Their use of some of the world’s best aged tobacco puts them at the top of the industry and with limited production runs, each cigar is rolled with precision and detail, ensuring a strict level of quality control.

Well that about seals it for me. :r

[massphatness]

I'm a little sad. :(

[elderboy02]

Wow! I clicked on a video to watch it and there is an ad before you can watch the video. :fl

[md4958]

A few of us had a discussion on this topic recently while herfing on Skype and determined that since 'whoring' implied getting paid, we are more accurately post sluts.

wait.... we DONT get paid??? FUK!!!

[Starscream]

wait.... we DONT get paid??? FUK!!!

Maybe we can get paid for all those reviews we wrote up at CS that caputo's gonna transfer into his review section.;)

We are Jon Caputo's whores! :D

[icehog3]

Looks like they lost almost 4 days of posts, must have used a 1-7-09 as their start point.

[Starscream]

I just noticed the flag at half mast at the top of CA. In memory of CS. Nice.

[Skywalker]

I cleaned out my locker and I salvaged a few things from other peoples lockers as well!!!:ss

[Mr.Maduro]

RIP

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n36/MrMaduro/louie.jpg

[ChasDen]

.....
I remember, ChasDen gave me my first bomb ....

You gotta watch that guy, hes bad news :D

I just noticed the flag at half mast at the top of CA. In memory of CS. Nice.

Nice catch, I missed that !

Chas

[pnoon]

I just checked the puff.com home page. Did you guys see how much cheese you can buy? :r

I also learned that Tampa Florida is the cigar capital of the US.

[totallytentative]

Quite the change from Club Stogies old no snob policy. I agree with borndead that it's a complete 180.... the "no snob" thing and more casual atmosphere were some of the reasons why I joined. This sounds like they are trying to cater to the high-rolling crowd that actually tries to live the GQ lifestyle verbatim. Ugh.
Wow! Puff is a horrible looking site :pu
I know... that fish and the mixed fonts on the banner are weirdly contrasting and rough looking. There isn't much I like about the way the site looks, and I feel I'm being impartial here....

I guess I'm sort of "lucky" in that I wasn't a CS member long enough to grow this strong attachment to the site.... I joined in October and a couple days later the bomb dropped. I will still miss it though. :sad

[totallytentative]

I just checked the puff.com home page. Did you guys see how much cheese you can buy?

Oh yeah, that's hilarious! :r

Excuse me, I have some serious shopping to do now, courtesy of one of their banners:

http://www.shareasale.com/image/MyCuban234a.jpg

:r :r :r

[M1903A1]

I just noticed the flag at half mast at the top of CA. In memory of CS. Nice.

Good catch! (And nice move by the mods!)

Shall we deliver three volleys with Blazers and blow "Taps" with smoke signals?

[King James]

im lovin all the google ads......

[Gargoyle]

"Like the perfect cigar, the smoker’s lifestyle is a rich and well-blended mixture of the all the finest ingredients. At Puff Lifestyle, we discuss the finer things in life: the most luxurious hotels, the finest wines, 5-star dining, the hottest wheels, insane watches, really cool lighters, hand carved cedar humidors, and of course – the best cigars. Come, live the life of a true cigar connoisseur. Puff Lifestyle – the sky is the limit."

Sounds like an online version of Mr. Marvin Shanken

If they had done *ANY* research about CS before they bought the site, it would have been clear that CS was *NOT* about any of this elitist BS. Thanks Team of 11 from saving us from a-holes like this!

[groogs]

OMFG, it is worse than I imagined. I am sooooooo glad we were all able to get out.

[white_s2k]

OMFG, it is worse than I imagined. I am sooooooo glad we were all able to get out.

I didn't think it was possible.. but wow. No longer a brotherhood, looks more like the internet version of Cigar Aficionado now.

[mojo65]

:puP.U.!

[icehog3]

"C'mon, Everybody!! Who doesn't love Pufferfish??!!""
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/puffer2.jpg

[Da Klugs]

Already branching out into "tobacco products". :)

http://www.tastypuff.com/

[icehog3]

:pnAlready branching out into "tobacco products". :)

http://www.tastypuff.com/

Man, that cat can dance! :tu

[Da Klugs]

And food...

http://takeapuff.woolfson.ca/

[icehog3]

And food...

http://takeapuff.woolfson.ca/

https://www.pancakepuff.com/flare/next


MMMM.....food and puff. :)

[King James]

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=210573 :rolleyes:

[icehog3]

and Rap Music! (MNSFW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEUgf2nUViw&feature=PlayList&p=6A3B972F1ECD225E&playnext=1&index=57

[Da Klugs]

But the essence seems to be:

http://www.fruitpuff.com/pc/puffcash.com/terms.php

[icehog3]

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=210573 :rolleyes:

fallguy81 got back the 280 RG points he lost in the 3 days they lost in the transition! :r

[icehog3]

For when my butt itches....

http://www.lotionpuff.com/

[King James]

fallguy81 got back the 280 RG points he lost in the 3 days they lost in the transition! :r

he lost rg?

[icehog3]

But I don't wanna be Puffy!
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/puffy_shirt01.png

[icehog3]

he lost rg?

He has been a moochaholic, and his RG was -292 when CS went down.

[King James]

He has been a moochaholic, and his RG was -292 when CS went down.

ill have to go read and maybe ding again!

[Da Klugs]

Threads: 89,651, Posts: 1,650,156, Puffer Fishes: 10,824, Active Puffer Fishes: 6,791
Welcome to our newest jungle dweller, styxer (http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/member.php?u=13935)


:r:r

Gorillas and inmates are cool, I think they should stick with members there though.

[mojo65]

(38 Puffer Fish and 43 Lurking Puffer Fish Wanna Be's)

Now thats sad

[icehog3]

ill have to go read and maybe ding again!

He got ripped, but almost all the mooch posts and rip posts are gone.

[King James]

well I got first day back to class (damnit) in 6 hrs.... time for bed. Last post of winter break from school :(

[Don Fernando]

I will send Jon Caputo (yes, I have his addy) some cremosa's, I will post a bomb topic there and that will be my only contribution to puff.

[taltos]

The new board recognizes me but does not accept my username/password combination. I contacted them about it, lets see if things get fixed. From what I have seen so far, things seem consistent that Caputo has ruined every internet group which he has gotten his mitts on. RIP Louie and welcome pretentious snobs. What will happen with the old reviews site?

[ChasDen]

Had to check it out this morning, :mad: wish I didn't.

Sad indeed. Oh well, hope everyone has a good week,

Its getting cold here and its back to school for most of the university folks,

SO GO LEARN SOMETHING :D

Chas

[Don Fernando]

The new board recognizes me but does not accept my username/password combination.

my login works, let's see for how long ;)

[elderboy02]

Threads: 89,651, Posts: 1,650,156, Puffer Fishes: 10,824, Active Puffer Fishes: 6,791
Welcome to our newest jungle dweller, styxer (http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/member.php?u=13935)


:r:r

Gorillas and inmates are cool, I think they should stick with members there though.

Well, we know that our good buddy Jon Caputo is reading this thread. :r He got rid of the stupid "Puffer Fishes" It now says this: "28 Gorilla and 47 Lurking Gorilla Wanna Be's"

[skibumdc]

Looks like at this rate they'll be advertising in Cigar Aficionado Magazine to attract new members!!

[Starscream]

Looks like at this rate they'll be advertising in Cigar Aficionado Magazine to attract new members!!

I wouldn't doubt it.




EDIT: Fallguy is back to -295.

[elderboy02]

Looks like at this rate they'll be advertising in Cigar Aficionado Magazine to attract new members!!

Yep. And you will have to pay to take part in the forums :rolleyes:

[poker]

Went to check it out & I admit its quite sad. So many ad's (as expected), different layout (as expected), no reason for me to ever go there again (as expected). Not bashing them, just my opinion as I see it.

Our intent here at Cigar Asylum was never to be the biggest cigar forum in town. We just know & will never forget that a cigar forum is only as good as its members, and we have some of the very best here.

[md4958]

Our intent here at Cigar Asylum was never to be the biggest cigar forum in town. .

We might not be the biggest Kelly, but I think we are the BEST!

[awsmith4]

We might not be the biggest Kelly, but I think we are the BEST!

I agree, I like this place more than I ever liked CS, and that is saying a lot. Thanks again 11 for setting this up.:):):)

[Starscream]

We might not be the biggest Kelly, but I think we are the BEST!

:tpd:

[Jbailey]

We might not be the biggest Kelly, but I think we are the BEST!

:tu:tu



I think the all white pages at puff are painful on my eyes.

[Whee]

I am thinking some of the "kool-aid" crew may now be having second thoughts. Ads all over, forum does not retain the look and feel, or name of CS, lots of activity when just looking at a page.

Salutes the 11!:salute::salute:

[piperman]

Well all I can say is I went there this morning and log in a saw this scary looking fat fish, and I was total stuck could not move or anything, it changed my work computer fron a T1 conection to dial up and screwed up my computer for a while, its that damn video at the bottom of the page.

[G G]

I went and checked it out and my login worked, but dang that is ugly. The layout and colors are terrible.

[Blueface]

Maybe it is me and my computer stupidity.
On that new fishy place, has anyone noticed that once you select a thread and go in it to read it, there is no way out of it unless you use the "back" on your browser?
They don't have the hyperlink on the top of the page to get back to the main page.

Just found it after this post.
Very nicely hidden up on the top to the right, under "home".
Very user friendly.:r:r:r

[Starscream]

:tu:tu



I think the all white pages at puff are painful on my eyes.

Eye-sore.

[cbsmokin]

Went to check it out & I admit its quite sad. So many ad's (as expected), different layout (as expected), no reason for me to ever go there again (as expected). Not bashing them, just my opinion as I see it.

Our intent here at Cigar Asylum was never to be the biggest cigar forum in town. We just know & will never forget that a cigar forum is only as good as its members, and we have some of the very best here.

I agree. I can't even check my Pm's without a video playing on the screen. Now if my pass will just wrap up over there ...

[rizzle]

I've never been one to complain much about anything on the innerweb, but that is pretty bad. Pretty bad indeed.

[gettysburgfreak]

terrible format as others have mentioned. The white hurts your eyes, the ads are all over the freaking place. It looks and feels like a sterile environment.

[cbsmokin]

In an eerie coincidence my site supporter status expired over there today.

When can we do that here, you guys need not be so modest, let me help out a little.

BTW, nice touch with the flag.

[ahc4353]

In an eerie coincidence my site supporter status expired over there today.

When can we do that here, you guys need not be so modest, let me help out a little.

BTW, nice touch with the flag.

I agree!


Is this a bash thread on CA? Never thought it would happen. :ih

[taltos]

I agree!


Is this a bash thread on CA? Never thought it would happen. :ihI really don't think that it is a bash thread. Seems more like a then and now thread where folks can express some sadness for what became of a place that was an important part of some of our lives.

[mmblz]

I really don't think that it is a bash thread. Seems more like a then and now thread where folks can express some sadness for what became of a place that was an important part of some of our lives.

An important part of MANY of our lives. Whether we like the changes or not, it would be strange not to discuss them at all...
:2

[poker]

Is this a bash thread on CA? Never thought it would happen. :ih

No it is not and should not become one. CS as we knew it, is now gone forever. Hopefully folks will see this as more of a personal opinion thread. Personal opinions (if negative) will always be confused with bashing.

[darb85]

CS is a bummer now :( Puff is odd and hard to navigate and ugly. But more power to em I suppose, I found my home here! :D :salute:

[pnoon]

An important part of MANY of our lives. Whether we like the changes or not, it would be strange not to discuss them at all...
:2

No it is not and should not. CS as we knew it is now gone. Hopefully folks will see this as more of a personal opinion thread. Personal opinions (if negative) will always be confused with bashing.

:tpd:

And given the new look and (commercial) focus of puff.com, it would be unreasonable to assume everyone will be pleased. fwiw - as much as we don't like it, give them the benefit of the doubt and time to work out bugs/issues on day one.

[elderboy02]

I wonder how many new members we will get starting today :D

[Starscream]

I just posted in the new pufferfish forum. We are all new pufferfish now.:D

[mrreindeer]

my login works, let's see for how long

:r:r nice one Ferdinand!

BTW, nice touch with the flag.

:tpd:

:r:r Too funny.

[Don Fernando]

In an eerie coincidence my site supporter status expired over there today.


I was banned on CS when my site supporter status expired and I got an email requesting to renew my status :r :r

[mrreindeer]

I was banned on CS when my site supporter status expired and I got an email requesting to renew my status :r :r

hhahahaha, that's not quite how I remember it! :r:r:r

[Don Fernando]

well, it is :) ofcourse I did not renew my status.

[Scottw]

I didn't think it was possible.. but wow. No longer a brotherhood, looks more like the internet version of Cigar Aficionado now.


:tpd::tpd: Unbelievable the nerve of this guy turning this site into this. So far it doesn't exhibit anything that made CS so special and so inviting to the BOTL's that called it home. Even the fact that the pages don't fit on my screen are annoying. It sucks, sorry to be a neg but it sucks sucks sucks.

[md4958]

is Puff still taking member donations???

[stitch]

In my (small) mind thanks to the Team here, We all just moved into a new more comfortable Home. ... Home is Good. :ss

[Blueface]

Hey, from my perspective, I wish them well.
I wish everyone well.
I feel if I do, I too will do well.
That said, I wish them well.:D

Just tough on many of us to see what could have been classified as a "humble" home turn into a conglomerate.
I just read a post there from Jon where he is responding to the "site supporter" question by saying that will remain in place. I think I have better things to do with that money than to fuel an individual's business venture.

[pnoon]

:tpd::tpd: Unbelievable the nerve of this guy turning this site into this. So far it doesn't exhibit anything that made CS so special and so inviting to the BOTL's that called it home. Even the fact that the pages don't fit on my screen are annoying. It sucks, sorry to be a neg but it sucks sucks sucks.

I don't like it any more than you do. But to say "the nerve of that guy" is unfair. He bought the site and is free to do with it what he pleases. We don't like it. Sure. But he is under no obligation to anyone. What is smart and good for the membership is certainly debateable but he has done nothing morally or ethically wrong.

And, yes, the site is horrible with all the commercial clutter. Nothing at all like what CS used to be.

[MajorCaptSilly]

I think there is an audience for puff.com. I don't think that most people who participate here or other forums like ICC will get anything of value out of puff.com.

MCS

[mrreindeer]

well, it is :) ofcourse I did not renew my status.

Sorry Ferdinand, I think I misunderstood your post...I thought you were saying 'I was banned when my site supporter status expired' as if you were banned as a result of your supporter status expiring....and I remememberd you specifically asked to be, as in, 'Thank you sir, May I have another....' :r:r:r

It was priceless.

[Jbailey]

And, yes, the site is horrible with all the commercial clutter. Nothing at all like what CS used to be.

Like Carlos said "it's like watching your home being destroyed". It's a sad day but we have an Asylum to come to, thanks to you Peter and the rest of the team of 11.

It might be a different home but the family is still here.

[ahc4353]

What a perfect day for this!! Monday could not get any better!!!

I have a post that is just perfect to make on puff (some of you know what I mean :) )!!

Not posting it is KILLING me!!!!!

Being nice is SOOOOOOOO hard!

[Raralith]

I just can't get over that blowfish; it's embarrassing.

[awsmith4]

I agree. I can't even check my Pm's without a video playing on the screen. Now if my pass will just wrap up over there ...

That is all I am waiting for before I quit paying attention

What a perfect day for this!! Monday could not get any better!!!

I have a post that is just perfect to make on puff (some of you know what I mean :) )!!

Not posting it is KILLING me!!!!!

Being nice is SOOOOOOOO hard!

Be true to yourself Al, its Monday so let your hair down and have some fun :D

[Scottw]

I don't like it any more than you do. But to say "the nerve of that guy" is unfair. He bought the site and is free to do with it what he pleases. We don't like it. Sure. But he is under no obligation to anyone. What is smart and good for the membership is certainly debateable but he has done nothing morally or ethically wrong.

And, yes, the site is horrible with all the commercial clutter. Nothing at all like what CS used to be.

I suppose you are correct. It's just his "rah rah, this place will be great and just what everyone is going to want out of it" etc, etc. gave me a sense that the fella truly studied up on what we held dear about the old place but apparently he didn't and if he did, didn't care to keep it that way. It is true, it's his site and he can do as he pleases. No moral or ethical codes of conduct have been breached. I was just venting a bit......

[pnoon]

I suppose you are correct. It's just his "rah rah, this place will be great and just what everyone is going to want out of it" etc, etc. gave me a sense that the fella truly studied up on what we held dear about the old place but apparently he didn't and if he did, didn't care to keep it that way. It is true, it's his site and he can do as he pleases. No moral or ethical codes of conduct have been breached. I was just venting a bit......

Understood.

And it is obvious that Mr. Caputo either
a) did not study up on what CS was -or -
b) did study up but chose to go with what he wanted to anyway

No matter what it was, he had his vision and he's going with it.

[md4958]

Understood.

And it is obvious that Mr. Caputo either
a) did not study up on what CS was -or -
b) did study up but chose to go with what he wanted to anyway

No matter what it was, he had his vision and he's going with it.

:tpd:

Just goes to show you that while you can buy a website, you cannot buy its members.

[ahc4353]

:tpd:

Just goes to show you that while you can buy a website, you cannot buy its members.

Well, that might not be the case. How much you willin to pay for me Moe?

[md4958]

Well, that might not be the case. How much you willin to pay for me Moe?

Im sure a few doubles of scotch would do the trick... prices may vary:r:r:r

[Lucky_Hippo]

In case I forgot to mention it before, it seems appropriate now.


THANKS TEAM OF 11


I for one value what you have created in such a short time period and am looking forward to many long years of brotherhood from everyone envolved.


Inmate #6969

[Cigargal]

CS as we know it ceased to exist when the eleven started this site. This is a great home!

[ucla695]

Understood.

And it is obvious that Mr. Caputo either
a) did not study up on what CS was -or -
b) did study up but chose to go with what he wanted to anyway

No matter what it was, he had his vision and he's going with it.

:tpd: Well said. My initial impression is that I'm not very pleased.

[hotreds]

BTW, nice touch with the flag.

Why is the flag at half-mast?

[macpappy]

I compare what is happening over there to what happens at a military unit when there is a change of command or a presidential inaugration.

You're still a family but it just doesn't feel the same until everyone either get used to it or is transferred to a new unit where you have no expectations.

I will continue to pop in over there for awhile but I've been committed to the Asylum since it opened.

[macpappy]

By the way, does anyone really think that Caputo isn't dropping in over here to see what is being said?

[hotreds]

Why is the flag at half-mast?

OK, missed the other thread.;)

[VirtualSmitty]

By the way, does anyone really think that Caputo isn't dropping in over here to see what is being said?

Doubt it. If he cared what any of us had to say he wouldn't have turned it into that ugly ad ridden mess it is now.

The new layout if fugly with a capital F. I will suggest however, that anyone here that still goes over there download FireFox adblock addon. Does wonders for that site now! Not like it matters much for me now though, today was my first and last visit to puff :r

[jwintosh]

fortunately for me, i missed all the drama! unfortunately for me, i read this entire thread and caught up.... ;)

i have only been active here for a week or so and from my experiences, ya'll clearly have your act together!!

[Da Klugs]

So the end has arrived. So long Club Stogie. Welcome Puff.com. No cigar site is perfect. We find them and become addicted to one or another based upon primarily the people that hang out on them not the look and feel or even the intent of the site owners.

Over time, we all learn a little more about the nature of public on line cigar sites if we pay attention. They differ in fundamental ways. From my perspective there are 3 basic types...

1. Sites started and operated by folks in the cigar business. Pretty straightforward. You know that Fuentes, a Magazine etc owns the site and your expectations are set as such.

2. Sites that started out as hobby boards and evolved into a blend of hobby and revenue producing. CS, CL, CR, CP etc fall into this mold. (All the sites bought or attempted to be bought) The desired vibe is the "community" vs the business of the board. The business is in the background seen only by the owner. When you first join one teh "community spirit" disguises the business side. Over time you gain an understanding of the lay of the land. We know the guy that owns it and know that the site is a passion vs a business and appreciate the fact that ads etc help offset the cost of our homes. Interesting that these are the targets for acquisition as they are primed for moving to "the next level". We get rude awakenings when the hobby board owner decides to cash in on "his hobby/our community".

3. Hobby boards. Fall into 2 categories. Ones that started from scratch with no "family" to start them up and migration based boards.. like here. Most of the from scratch ones die off, very few make it. Seems like longer term folks tend to migrate to these types of boards in general as human nature typically gets in the way of brotherhood somewhere along the way on commercially oriented sites. The fist time they put up an ad they become less of a hobby and more of a business to some small degree and begin the evolution or brotherhood to cash cycle.

New hobby boards get started when there is change in existing boards more often than not. Typically in the past, it has been falling outs among st former friends that leads to creating these new boards. This is a new situation ... Kmart comes to the cigar boards kind of thing.

It's another of the many "slippery slopes".. money. One that is hard to gain objective brotherly traction on once a cigar board owner begins to slide.

I'm sure Mr. Caputo will do fine, make lots of money and flip the thing he builds to a "cigar entity" at some point in time. Lot's of new smokers who do searches and they will be right there at the top for them to find "Puffworld". Difference might be that unlike other boards, there might not be longer term knowledgeable folks to provide "ongoing content" that facilitates personal evolution and growth for new members. Could turn into Cigarboardgateway.com where folks quickly move to another board (once they know boards exist at all) that are less commercially tacky.

or.. this is the future and Puff will rule the cigar board universe with "awesome content", "unique visitors", and cool prizes available to everyone who clicks the ads. :D

We all choose what we like... there are many choices... so it's all good for someone.

[BC-Axeman]

JMO
From a purely technical standpoint, I am impressed at the integration. It could not have been easy, as behind schedule as they were. From an aesthetic viewpoint, it is an embarrassing eyesore. Functionally, it seems to work like a vbullitin app. I don't think it is though. I can easily ignore the banners. I hate the fish and I don't want anything to do with a "Puff Lifestyle".
/JMO

[Starscream]

So the end has arrived. So long Club Stogie. Welcome Puff.com. No cigar site is perfect. We find them and become addicted to one or another based upon primarily the people that hang out on them not the look and feel or even the intent of the site owners.

Over time, we all learn a little more about the nature of public on line cigar sites if we pay attention. They differ in fundamental ways. From my perspective there are 3 basic types...

1. Sites started and operated by folks in the cigar business. Pretty straightforward. You know that Fuentes, a Magazine etc owns the site and your expectations are set as such.

2. Sites that started out as hobby boards and evolved into a blend of hobby and revenue producing. CS, CL, CR, CP etc fall into this mold. (All the sites bought or attempted to be bought) The desired vibe is the "community" vs the business of the board. The business is in the background seen only by the owner. When you first join one teh "community spirit" disguises the business side. Over time you gain an understanding of the lay of the land. We know the guy that owns it and know that the site is a passion vs a business and appreciate the fact that ads etc help offset the cost of our homes. Interesting that these are the targets for acquisition as they are primed for moving to "the next level". We get rude awakenings when the hobby board owner decides to cash in on "his hobby/our community".

3. Hobby boards. Fall into 2 categories. Ones that started from scratch with no "family" to start them up and migration based boards.. like here. Most of the from scratch ones die off, very few make it. Seems like longer term folks tend to migrate to these types of boards in general as human nature typically gets in the way of brotherhood somewhere along the way on commercially oriented sites. The fist time they put up an ad they become less of a hobby and more of a business to some small degree and begin the evolution or brotherhood to cash cycle.

New hobby boards get started when there is change in existing boards more often than not. Typically in the past, it has been falling outs among st former friends that leads to creating these new boards. This is a new situation ... Kmart comes to the cigar boards kind of thing.

It's another of the many "slippery slopes".. money. One that is hard to gain objective brotherly traction on once a cigar board owner begins to slide.

I'm sure Mr. Caputo will do fine, make lots of money and flip the thing he builds to a "cigar entity" at some point in time. Lot's of new smokers who do searches and they will be right there at the top for them to find "Puffworld". Difference might be that unlike other boards, there might not be longer term knowledgeable folks to provide "ongoing content" that facilitates personal evolution and growth for new members. Could turn into Cigarboardgateway.com where folks quickly move to another board (once they know boards exist at all) that are less commercially tacky.

or.. this is the future and Puff will rule the cigar board universe with "awesome content", "unique visitors", and cool prizes available to everyone who clicks the ads. :D

We all choose what we like... there are many choices... so it's all good for someone.
As always, well said.

[icehog3]

I take exception with anyone who says this thread is bashing CS....lots of long time "Gorilla" are just expressing the sadness at seeing something they once cherished turned into something....well, different. People who were members there for 5 years or even 5 months want to express their feelings about the change, whether those be feelings of sadness, of anger, or ambivalence. We are all human.

[Da Klugs]

I take exception with anyone who says this thread is bashing CS....lots of long time "Gorilla" are just expressing the sadness at seeing something they once cherished turned into something....well, different. People who were members there for 5 years or even 5 months want to express their feelings about the change, whether those be feelings of sadness, of anger, or ambivalence. We are all human.

I think the banner at the top of this forum depicts how many of us long term CS'rs feel today.

[mojo65]

I think the banner at the top of this forum depicts how many of us long term CS'rs feel today.
:tpd:

[piperman]

Well I started there (CS) in 2005 and never really posted much and never really fitted in at least I dont think so, I tried. But I do miss it seems like a friend has just died but at least I can get a fresh start here. I dont think Puff will ever replace CS or come close to CA.

[mmblz]

Functionally, it seems to work like a vbullitin app. I don't think it is though.

It appears that vbulletin is still handling the forum portion.
The front page is cnn layout (compare them side by side) with cigar "content" surrounded by ads.
Looks like ads and so forth are driven by shareasale.com and bigresponse.com
Then there is vbSEO providing LinkBacks, URL rewriting, etc...


:pu

[ahc4353]

I take exception with anyone who says this thread is bashing CS....lots of long time "Gorilla" are just expressing the sadness at seeing something they once cherished turned into something....well, different. People who were members there for 5 years or even 5 months want to express their feelings about the change, whether those be feelings of sadness, of anger, or ambivalence. We are all human.

Since CA was started it was asked by the 11 not to get into any type of CS negativity. I felt this thread could head that way. My comment was meant to have guys think before posting. That was all. I should of not said anything as I am not a MOD. I apologize for that.

I clearly don't have the wisdom to know what is opinion and what is bashing. Case in point, I had posted some of MY opinions in my later days of CS to have them deemed bashing by the new MODs there.

Let the opinions continue! :)

[poker]

Let the opinions continue! :)
Is that your opinion or are you bashing the idea of allowing opinions? :r

[DrDubzz]

I only started this thread as an alert, that our old home was finally being dismantled for the new edition.

I will continue to participate in the pipe forum over there, but that will be the extent of it. Unless I can get those people to join over here :pi

in any case, keep sharing, gotta get it all out, and move on

[ahc4353]

Is that your opinion or are you bashing the idea of allowing opinions? :r

:r

You should know, you're a MOD for Christs sake!

[md4958]

Since CA was started it was asked by the 11 not to get into any type of CS negativity. I felt this thread could head that way. My comment was meant to have guys think before posting. That was all. I should of not said anything as I am not a MOD. I apologize for that.

I clearly don't have the wisdom to know what is opinion and what is bashing. Case in point, I had posted some of MY opinions in my later days of CS to have them deemed bashing by the new MODs there.

Let the opinions continue! :)

its ok Al, its Monday and we know you arent in the right state of mind... plus, nobody listens to you anyway:r:r:r

[KidRock]

it is sad to say goodbye to an old friend but the new forum that was created is just great....Especially that cranky old guy named Al :ss Just kiddin

[DBall]

Especially that cranky old guy named Al :ss Just kiddin

Of course you're kidding. Al sucks.

Sorry, it's Monday!!!

:r:r:r:r

[BP22]

Definitely an end of an era...just sad.

[macpappy]

The king CS is dead!
All hail the King Cigar Asylum!

[Tim D.]

I will truly miss CS, and I have to say that I am a little saddened today. I joined in April, '07, and the folks there helped me down the slippery slope on a rocket sled. I have met some great people at some great herfs, and hope to do so again through CA. I'm an inmate now (many times in the past people have said that I should be one!), but I will always be a gorilla at heart!

[poker]

:r

You should know, you're a MOD for Christs sake!
Wrong.
im not just any mod, but a mod that has been specially assigned just to watch you. :r

[ahc4353]

it is sad to say goodbye to an old friend but the new forum that was created is just great....Especially that cranky old guy named Al :ss Just kiddin

I know you were Jon.

Of course you're kidding. Al sucks.

Sorry, it's Monday!!!

:r:r:r:r

And don't you have a new bride you should be taking care of there Mr. SmartA$$?

[pnoon]

Wrong.
im not just any mod, but a mod that has been specially assigned just to watch you. :r

:r

Kelly drew the short straw. :D

[awsmith4]

Wrong.
im not just any mod, but a mod that has been specially assigned just to watch you. :r

:r

Kelly drew the short straw. :D

:r :r

[poker]

:r

Kelly drew the short straw. :D

....and Im pissed off about it too. Better watch it! :r:r:r

[BC-Axeman]

Louie is now a spikey Mr. Peanut. Monocles are so obsolete they don't seem like they were ever a good idea. I just can't get used to that fish. Still, all the old content is still there.

[poker]

Louie is now a spikey Mr. Peanut. Monocles are so obsolete they don't seem like they were ever a good idea. I just can't get used to that fish. Still, all the old content is still there.

But not all the old members ;)

[pnoon]

But not all the old members ;)

Who you calling "old"??????? :fl

[poker]

Who you calling "old"??????? :fl

Ummm....Rick?
(I think thats the right answer lol)

[Da Klugs]

With the advent of Viagra, cialis, et al , old members are now much more useful. :D

[poker]

Like Rick? :r

[Bax]

For when my butt itches....

http://www.lotionpuff.com/

Nothing like a good sponge on a stick!:D

[Bax]

Did anyone else notice that the Puffer fish is wearing his Top Hat gangster style? Never seen a sideways top hat before... must be for the edgier Puffers, they probably have tinted monicles too. :D

[jitzy]

There's like 13 ad's plus "content ads" on the homepage. :r

It's cigarlive renamed PUff with the CS post content to be rolled in.

Thats because Daniel (stogie) has been the secret admin for clubstogie since jon bought them all.

[JaKaacH]

:ss:salute:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/bestforum-on-the-web.jpg
:salute::ss

[Da Klugs]

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt: (First Paragraph)
"Puff Forum Agreement - Although the administrators and moderators of PUFF.com will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Puff.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. Puff.com owns all content that is posted.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise in violation of any U.S. laws or the laws of your country of origin. You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

[sikk50]

Puff is fail.

CA is win.

I'm not going to worry about it much more. Almost everyone is here now, at least the ones that truely matter and thats the way it should be.

[mrreindeer]

Monocles are so obsolete they don't seem like they were ever a good idea.

:lv

Just kiddin; ha! :r

[mrreindeer]

Puff.com owns all content that is posted.

Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

Yikes; thanks for that Dave. :tu So noted....and makes me think...

[SilverFox]

:ss:salute:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/bestforum-on-the-web.jpg
:salute::ss


Can I phone a friend???

[Da Klugs]

Can I phone a friend???

Your friends have phones? :D

[Stick]

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt:
"Puff Forum Agreement You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

Not only that, but I'd be careful about posting photos (taken from puff forum agreement (http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/faq.php?faq=toplevel#faq_puffagreement)):

"2. Picture Posting

Please do not post professional photography of any sort. Only post pictures that you do not mind sharing and pictures that are not in violation of copyright infringement. This forum is indexed daily by many search engines so the pictures within get indexed as well. PUFF.com will not be held responsible for pictures which are inappropriate or stolen – YOU will be responsible. [emphasis added]
...
The Picture Offense Structure

1st Offense: A formal warning will be sent via PM

Upon a members first offense, a PM will be sent to them informing them of the rule violation and they will also be informed of this Offense Structure.

2nd Offense: Account Suspension for 14 days

Upon a members second offense, the member will have their account suspended for 14 days. Any attempt to circumvent this suspension by creating extra accounts on the forum will directly lead into a Permanent Ban from the forum.

3rd Offense: Permanent Ban from the forum

Upon a members third offense, the member will be Permanently Banned from the forum and will never be welcomed back."

[md4958]

Your friends have phones? :D

Al has a blackberry!

[Partagaspete]

I didn't know what this thread when I saw it when it only had a few replies that was until I just logged in over there to search for an old friend and I saw the new puffer fish; I got nauseated.

Thank you Team of 11 for setting this place up.

T

[Blueface]

:ss:salute:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/bestforum-on-the-web.jpg
:salute::ss

Where on Earth do you guys find this stuff and edit it? Darn curious to know.

Signed:
Darn curious to know (insert a smiley here as can't add a sixth image)

[cbsmokin]

Where on Earth do you guys find this stuff and edit it? Darn curious to know.

Signed:
Darn curious to know (insert a smiley here as can't add a sixth image)

From the daily indexing at the other site. :r

[MajorCaptSilly]

Wrong.
im not just any mod, but a mod that has been specially assigned just to watch you. :r

I want a mod watching me! I want a mod watching me!!!

MCS

[Blueface]

I want a mod watching me! I want a mod watching me!!!

MCS

They are.:r:r:r:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD21JDMp86c

[ahc4353]

Wrong.
im not just any mod, but a mod that has been specially assigned just to watch you. :r

My own body guard thats friggin great!



Kelly drew the short straw. :(

No worries Peter, just alternate days so you can feel like you won as well! :D

With the advent of Viagra, cialis, et al , old members are now much more useful. :D

Now I help guys get and maintain? I don't think so, that would make me a fluffer fish. :r

[dcamacho]

LMAO :al

[Don Fernando]

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt: (First Paragraph)
"Puff Forum Agreement - Although the administrators and moderators of PUFF.com will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Puff.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. Puff.com owns all content that is posted.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise in violation of any U.S. laws or the laws of your country of origin. You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

well, I posted my words before he invoked that new rule, maybe we should all demand our posts to be removed. None of us registered at puff.com, so none of use have to obey those rules.

[Smokin Gator]

Well gentlemen... I just made my last visit and paid my respects.

I visited once the other day when it first went up and my initial impressions weren't good. I figured I would give it a couple of days and then go back for a look. I was poking around and clicked on the Puff Lifestyle (or something like that) link where it was talking about the finer things in life being great watches and awesome hotel rooms blah, blah, blah... That did it... It just ain't me!!! I signed off and won't be back. I wish them well it just isn't my kind of place anymore.

To me the finer things in life are much simpler... my family, my friends including all of you, my favorite pair of jeans, my old arse redwings, Jack Daniels, a couple of decent guns, and my cigars.

Here's to the Team of 11 and to all of you who make this feel like home to me.

[King James]

so puff owns all the photos...but the poster is responsible? Sounds like a pretty good gig for Jon

[zmancbr]

Just checked it out this morning.... what a Fugazi piece of $hit lol... There is more damn add space than on the back of Paris Hilton's.... well you get the picture.

He really destroyed that place for sure... All I have to say is I am a damn happy man that we have the asylum to come and check into! :ss:usa

[Da Klugs]

I want a mod watching me! I want a mod watching me!!!

MCS

So which 10 do you suggest stop? :D

[j-easy]

is Puff still taking member donations???

yes. lol

[taltos]

I have yet to see an offer to pay for my 3700+ posts that were made prior to Jon's new agreement that effectively stole my rights to them.:fl

[MajorCaptSilly]

So which 10 do you suggest stop? :D

Thank you for my daily affirmation:D:ss:r

MCS

[j-easy]

having been over there i have noticed how bad it is, im new to cigars and general and have only been posting maybe 2 months, so I wasn't around during the mass exodus etc. but all I can say is thanks to the folks that made this site, CS is ruined, puff is terrible, ad's, bad layout and format, tacky luxury theme.

THANK YOU TEAM OF 11

[rizzle]

well, I posted my words before he invoked that new rule, maybe we should all demand our posts to be removed. None of us registered at puff.com, so none of use have to obey those rules.

Quite honestly, the words I posted over there, and here for that matter, ain't worth much to anybody.
:r

[King James]

can CA get some more ads? I feel deprived of them over here.... going back to puff to get my fix! :rolleyes:

[rizzle]

You might like this one Carlos
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/luvpuff.jpg

I just hee-hawed at that one.
:D

[Asher]

I had AdBlock on the first time I loaded puff.com, so I didn't realize how bad it was. As an alleged professional, doesn't jcaputo realize that Google Adsense isn't allowed on tobacco-centric websites?

https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=105948

[pnoon]

can CA get some more ads? I feel deprived of them over here.... going back to puff to get my fix! :rolleyes:

Have at. You'll never find 'em here.

[LordOfWu]

The old adage says "home is where you hang your hat"...well, my hat and my straight jacket are very happy in CA, thanks 11!

[King James]

Have at. You'll never find 'em here.

stern....stern but fair.

:r

[blugill]

I wasn't a long time member of CS but I was comfy there. I'm glad I made the switch here though. I'm coming up on my first anniversary of being introduced to the world of cigars and the wonderful commraderie that goes along with them.

CA is a great place to be!
RIP Club Stogie

[AD720]

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt: (First Paragraph)
"Puff Forum Agreement - Although the administrators and moderators of PUFF.com will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Puff.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. Puff.com owns all content that is posted.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise in violation of any U.S. laws or the laws of your country of origin. You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.



Dave -

Is this true?

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/general-discussion/211032-later-guys.html

[poker]

Dave -

Is this true?

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/general-discussion/211032-later-guys.html

Whats it say? I refuse to log in.

[DrDubzz]

I said I don't want my posts to be Jon's Property

He (Jon Ca-spanish for b1tch) said that the same language was in the CS agreement)

[AD720]

Whats it say? I refuse to log in.

...the gist of it is someone said they were not going to be a member of Puff.com due to the policy of owning the content, etc. MrC responded by saying that "it is the same language" as the CS sign up agreement.

I was wondering if that was acurate, since it seems like people that were on CS are suprised/upset about it.

[AD720]

For what its worth I am not trying to call anyone here out. It very well might have been the policy (who reads those agreements anyway...you just scroll to the bottom and click whatever). I don't think that it even would have been an issue with the previous site.

Now...I don't know.

[Da Klugs]

I am a little worried since MrC owns our thoughts...the gist of it is someone said they were not going to be a member of Puff.com due to the policy of owning the content, etc. MrC responded by saying that "it is the same language" as the CS sign up agreement.

I was wondering if that was acurate, since it seems like people that were on CS are suprised/upset about it.

Dunno it was a long time ago for me. Dont remember it but wasn't looking for it. Might have been one of those "anticipitory changes" in the brotherly to cashout process mode. The point of comparision I put forth was here vs there not CS vs Puff. We have a concern about being harrassed over "owned content" from cross posting Committeed Pufferfish per my previous post. Feel free to post the thoughts you post here, on the bathrrom wall at your favorite bus station, on your Myspace page, on the Paris Hilton fan blog.... etc. The cities are looking for revenue now though so you might want to post those here first as well. :D

Read their revised rules regarding ads as well. Seems none are welcome unless they are paid for. No more "specials" posted in the retailer forum based upon enforcement of the rule. It's all about the money is my takeaway.

[AD720]

I understand your concerns. I was just wondering, thanks.


FYI -

My user title was swtiched to "Alpha" and then what the mascot is over there. I switched it back to "Alpha Silverback" and it shows as
"Alpha **********".

Nice huh? :mad:

For now I am an "Alpha Silver_Back".