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markem
07-23-2021, 08:57 AM
https://www.mlb.com/indians

I didn't think that their record was so bad that they needed a new identity. :noon

icehog3
07-23-2021, 08:59 AM
****ing Cancel Culture. Sorry this one rubs me wrong.

jonumberone
07-23-2021, 09:21 AM
Disgusting!

The Poet
07-23-2021, 10:19 AM
Romeo and Juliet, Act II, Scene II.


:2

Weelok
07-23-2021, 11:44 AM
And to add insult to injury, I think “Guardians” is a terrible name for a team. I personally think something like “The Team Formally Known As Cleveland Indians” would been more appropriate and there is legal standing on that tradition.

elderboy02
07-23-2021, 11:52 AM
What a dumb name.

massphatness
07-23-2021, 12:21 PM
:pu

AdamJoshua
07-23-2021, 12:43 PM
Yet when they ask actual Native Americans they don't give two ****s and more of them see "Indians" and "Redskins" in team names more of an honor. Well Karen wins again.

Tio Gato
07-23-2021, 01:39 PM
Nauseating Excrement! :confused:

The Poet
07-23-2021, 02:30 PM
In November 1993 St. John's University announced it was changing the nickname of its athletics programs from Redmen to Red Storm. Thus is COULD be argued that recent changes in Washington and Cleveland are behind the times, and that blaming it on today's "counter culture" or "Karen" phenomena is flawed, and perhaps specious. Furthermore, if it is a valid argument to state Native Americans do not care one way or the other, it should be equally valid to argue that you should not care one way or the other also.

Again, just :2, and worth every penny.

Axeman
07-23-2021, 02:59 PM
I think it is more insulting to associate Native Americans (from which I descend) with casinos and cigarettes than with sports teams. I'm ok with Celtics and Fighting Irish and Vikings and such too. I'm descended from all those.
What is it with the propensity to be offended, or even to see offense when the supposed offended see none? This offends me!

longknocker
07-23-2021, 04:21 PM
Can't Believe It! I Guess The "Atlanta Braves" Are Next???:su

oldforge
07-24-2021, 07:34 AM
Wait until the locals figure out that "Guardians" used to be folks who guarded slaves on the slave ships....hope they wait to condemn the new name until all the new signs and other expensive refits are complete....a year would be good...

;-)

T.G
07-24-2021, 08:00 AM
Maybe my unopened copy of "Major League" on betamax will finally be worth something now.

icehog3
07-24-2021, 08:58 AM
Can't Believe It! I Guess The "Atlanta Braves" Are Next???:su

Chicago Blackhawks have already said they won't change names, and have the full support of Illinois Indian organizations.

Wharf Rat
07-24-2021, 11:15 AM
Chicago Blackhawks have already said they won't change names, and have the full support of Illinois Indian organizations.

Well, if the Indians were named after a heroic chief and used a handsome portrait as their logo, they might be OK. Look at it this way. If a team was called the Coons and had a caricature of a Black guy, you’d probably know it was wrong.

I went to college and lived in Cleveland for 20 years. Was big Indians fan. So, I have mixed feelings about it. I try to remember that someone whose ancestors were almost wiped out may be more sensitive about it than I am.

The Poet
07-24-2021, 12:39 PM
Well, if the Indians were named after a heroic chief and used a handsome portrait as their logo, they might be OK. Look at it this way. If a team was called the Coons and had a caricature of a Black guy, you’d probably know it was wrong.

I went to college and lived in Cleveland for 20 years. Was big Indians fan. So, I have mixed feelings about it. I try to remember that someone whose ancestors were almost wiped out may be more sensitive about it than I am.

Indeed. Hey, my high school teams were, and still are, the Indians. Would I petition they change their name? No, I would not. Would I object were they to decide to do so? No, I would not. Compared to all the REAL problems we face these days, obsession with something like this is silly. And things evolve, so people should make an effort to evolve also.

icehog3
07-24-2021, 02:16 PM
Bob, you make an interesting point. :tu

Brian D.
07-24-2021, 06:41 PM
Given Cleveland's long history as a Great Lakes port city, I can't imagine why the team didn't use the name suggested by so many: The Steamers.

Porch Dweller
07-24-2021, 07:51 PM
given cleveland's long history as a great lakes port city, i can't imagine why the team didn't use the name suggested by so many: The steamers.

lmmfao

markem
07-24-2021, 08:27 PM
lmmfao

Indeed. Mr Hanky could be the mascot.

Weelok
07-25-2021, 04:52 PM
So here is a thought. Now the Pontification mill is claiming the NY Jets are next to change names but would it be really to be more woke or is it because the NY Jets stink and the only way to generate news is PR name changes?

The Team formally known as the Braves have a good record so for them it was mental masturbation and a vague hope for more ticket sales as well as merchandising. I don’t believe for a second it was good will and a guilty conscience but greed and revenue, well, that is just business. Let’s see if it works. They can always change back with some tribal blessings and sponsorships.

longknocker
07-25-2021, 05:20 PM
Can't Believe It! I Guess The "Atlanta Braves" Are Next???:su

Here You Go:
https://www.ajc.com/sports/further-review-blog/indians-change-their-name-inevitably-the-braves-will-too/DM2G7MRP5ZEULCUCA6UH36WY44/

AdamJoshua
07-25-2021, 06:26 PM
"And the Guardians take the field .." No it just doesn't work, so much for Major League

Porch Dweller
07-25-2021, 09:13 PM
"And the Guardians take the field .." No it just doesn't work, so much for Major League

"...and the Cleveland Steamers plop onto the field." has a much better ring to it. :D

T.G
07-25-2021, 09:31 PM
"And the Guardians take the field .." No it just doesn't work, so much for Major League

They're still shitty.

hotreds
07-26-2021, 08:24 AM
I like it here and don't want to be banned, so...........

AdamJoshua
07-26-2021, 08:52 AM
They're still shitty.

I'm waiting for them to draft their new pitcher Star Lord, how far behind can be the Marvel money and advertising :gary

T.G
07-26-2021, 02:40 PM
I'm waiting for them to draft their new pitcher Star Lord, how far behind can be the Marvel money and advertising :gary

All fun and games until the shortstop Drax decapitates a runner trying to steal a base.

Then it's just bloody fun.

The Poet
07-26-2021, 05:57 PM
And I doubt Rocket would want to be the mascot.

mosesbotbol
07-27-2021, 11:50 AM
****ing Cancel Culture. Sorry this one rubs me wrong.

Big time.

When are we changing the name of our country to make it more inclusive?

Black Coral
07-27-2021, 12:54 PM
Well the next is the Blackhawks and that is really going to suck

icehog3
07-27-2021, 06:44 PM
Well the next is the Blackhawks and that is really going to suck

Don't see it happening. Braves and Chiefs will cave first.

Black Coral
07-27-2021, 07:04 PM
Don't see it happening. Braves and Chiefs will cave first.

I sure hope so

Gabe215
07-27-2021, 08:07 PM
Soo lame!!