nice rums?

[poker]

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These definetly dont suck

[pnoon]

Never had the HC 15.
The others are my top 3.

[mmblz]

St James XO

... though I don't drink a lot of rum...

[MoTheMan]

The Ron Centennario's quite good.

Although I'd prefer a good Tawny Poet with my 'gars. :ss:2c

[Ace$nyper]

I've found Ron Matusalem to be the best I've ever come in contact with.

[BengalMan]

Yet to have the HC 15 either. Flor De Cana 12 and 18 is good as well.

[Darrell]

Never had the HC 15.
The others are my top 3.

:tpd:

I love me some Zacapa, but cannot find it locally. :fl

[St. Lou Stu]

Check.... local store has all of 'em cept for the HC! I'm in heaven!!!:dr

[madurofan]

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[SeanGAR]

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[awsmith4]

I have been drinking both the Zaya and the RC XX lately and loving both

[Darrell]

Will trade cigars for Ron Zacapa. :dr

[VirtualSmitty]

Diplomatico is pretty good stuff.

[The Professor]

Mmmmm. Only one I haven't had on this page is the HC15 -- HC7 is a nice treat, though. :tu

[SvilleKid]

My son has me looking for Westerhall?? Rum, made in Granada. Says it's good, but I haven't run it down yet. Of course, Bama isn't exactly the Mecca for fine spirits!

I haven't tried those Kelly shows, but I enjoy Appleton Estate's 21 year aged. Waiting on my one bright spot of suppliers to get in the new 30 year Appleton.

I'll eventually find some rums other than the standard grades that really need mixers to be accepted!

[poker]

My son has me looking for Westerhall?? Rum, made in Granada. Says it's good, but I haven't run it down yet. Of course, Bama isn't exactly the Mecca for fine spirits!

I haven't tried those Kelly shows, but I enjoy Appleton Estate's 21 year aged. Waiting on my one bright spot of suppliers to get in the new 30 year Appleton.

I'll eventually find some rums other than the standard grades that really need mixers to be accepted!

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[JKim]

I see Ron Zacapa 25 from time to time. Worth the difference in price over the 23?

[poker]

Darrell tends to think so :ss

[Darrell]

Darrell tends to think so :ss

:r

Darrell has had the 23 and that's it. Darrell also has scoured SJ looking for a bottle, with no luck. :(

[RGD.]

Close .......

Really large picture of Santa Teresa 1796 was here - :D


Sean - can you find this down there around Radford? Can't up here in NOVA but my daughter is down there in Radford so she could grab me some if it's available.


Ron

[SvilleKid]

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I really appreciate the link. However, I suffer from a state that is backwards in many ways, One being that they still have dry counties, and thus do not allow shipment of Alcohol into the state. as expected, the site shows they will not ship to Bama! Got a sister in Tennessee (unless they lose home to the economy), so I might be able to have it shipped there. Don't know if I can trust her to keep bottle sealed til I can get it, though:r

[DrDubzz]

HC7 and Flor De Cana 7,12,etc years

[Resipsa]

Close .......

http://www.refinedvices.com/newsimages/rum/santateresa.jpgI'm with Sean, excepting the Havana Club the Santa Theresa is the best rum IMHO.

[gorob23]

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These definetly dont suck

:cYou don't DRINK Rum but I do....and yes you have my attention :tu

Rob

[The Korean]

One of these days I am going to break down and search to find one of these rums. I haven't had much luck yet.

[slimm]

Havent tried any of these yet. I will find the ron zacapa. I have had a few bottles of Ron Del Barillito gold star that was good.

Ryan

[Parshooter]

RZ XO, 25 year old :dr

[Neuromancer]

Ron Zacapa 23 Anos and Diplimatio Exclusiva Reserva...

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[SeanGAR]

Sean - can you find this down there around Radford? Can't up here in NOVA but my daughter is down there in Radford so she could grab me some if it's available.


Ron

Wife is Venezuelan .... I bought this one in Venezuela for some ungodly amount of money at the time ... 15-20 bucks I think ... when you realize drinkable anejo runs 3-4 bucks a fifth, the Diplimatico I see people liking here around 7-8, and gasoline is 12 cents a gallon .... thats a lot of money.

Short answer, no, we can't get that one here in Radford.

If there is a trip to Venezuela at Christmas, I'll smuggle you back one - I think we were 4-5 bottles over the limit last time, whats another bottle?

:-O

[Mark C]

I've got a bottle of the Santa Teresa, either got it here in MD or Florida, can't remember.

Nobody mentioned Pampero yet? That's another nice Venezuelan rum, should be pretty readily available too. I think it's similar to Zacapa, but not quite as sweet. I like it better.

Ron del Barrilito 3 Star is one of my all-time favorite rums. I like the dry, lighter style of Puerto Rican rums, this is the best I've had so far.

Rhum Agricole - Neisson, St James, La Favorite, Rhum Clement... all are great, and very different from every other rum you'll ever try. You owe it to yourself to pick one up if you come across it.

El Dorado 15 yr - Great cigar rum, smokey, heavy, full-bodied, stands up well to a heavy smoke.

Gosling's Black Seal - Cheap, available everywhere, delicious. Don't ever buy Meyer's Dark when Gosling's is sitting nearby.

Angostura 1919 & 1824 - I'm really liking these both a lot lately. The 1824 is a little more complex, the 1919 screams 'vanilla', but both are the drier style that I tend to prefer.

Pyrat XO - Not bad, but I have a hard time getting paste the citrusy/orange flavor. Almost seems too 'orangey' to be real. Great on ice though.

10 Cane - Only buy it on sale, but it makes a helluva mojito.

Of the sweet rums, I think I like Diplomatico a touch more than Zacapa, though they're awful close. Can't ever find Zaya (any Zaya), or Centenario in MD.

I'd love to get my hands on some HC, that's one that ain't exactly common around here. Maybe next trip overseas.


Now that there's a rum thread, someone needs to invite Che over here :)

[Ms. SeanGAR]

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That's my man...

[Wingfan13]

I have been looking for Ron Zacapa for months now and cannot find it. I finally found a bottle of Zaya. I like that a lot.

[groogs]

Seeing all these pictures is making me :dr. I need to stop spending all my money on cigars and start buying more Rum.

[Wanger]

My favorite at the moment is Zaya. I just wish I could compare the Guatemalan with the Trinidadian stuff. I've had both, and liked both, but really don't knwo what the difference was, as it was months between the time that I had them. Even my wife (not a rum drinker) will drink Zaya neat. :D

I've also had and liked Ron Matusalem Clasico.

HC 7 is another good one. Though I have had it side by side with Guatemalan Zaya, and preferred the Zaya. Just suited my palate better.

I know that I'll need to try some of the others that have been listed here, too

[rizzle]

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I'm with you brother. I have all the ones in my rotation that Kelly posted but the Santa Teresa is my fave. Good taste my man.:ss

[barbourjay]

ron zacapa all the way. there is a local shop that pretty much has everything. i still need to try the HC15. it's so easy to just go to the store and pick up a bottle of zacapa though that i never really run out.

darrell, if you keep not having any luck i'm sure we could figure out something.

[Mark C]

I poured some of the Santa Teresa last night, with a Famous Nic 3000, was a good night! Forgot how good that rum was, thanks for reminding me!

[Dgar]

Recently tried the new Zaya, I never had the older version, but I was surprised how sweet it was, lots of vanilla... I liked it, but I have a serious sweet tooth, ask my dentist.

Another rum I enjoy is Saliors Jerry, a little SJ with coke and a wedge of lime on a sunny day at the pool.... nice.

[Mark C]

Another rum I enjoy is Saliors Jerry, a little SJ with coke and a wedge of lime on a sunny day at the pool.... nice.

:tpd: That's good stuff, I prefer SJ over Captain Morgan.

[DMK]

I assisted in the death of a bottle of Havana Club the other night, my usual is Appleton's. The Zaya sounds promising,Gotta get my hands on a bottle....

[Wanger]

Found a local shop the other day that had ~12 bottles of Zaya in @ $39.99. As I already have some, I found another one to try...Rhum Barbancourt 15 yr. from Haiti. It was quite nice and went down easy, but I think I'd still choose Zaya as my favorite

[groogs]

I just got a bottle of the new Zaya (Trinidad) and I am not a fan. It has a lot of vanella flavor to it, and non of the smokey flavor I liked so much in the original.:mad:

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These definetly dont suck

Up here in North Kakalaki we can only get Zaya. Man do I miss Centanario! :(

ATL

[poker]

latest order! :ss

Shipping Tracking No.:
Carrier : Other
Ship Via : Ground
Ship Date : 10/29/2008

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Qty BO Style Description Price Total Price
Color Sizes Widths
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3 0 164247 RON ZACAPA 23YR RUM 750 $35.99 $107.97
3 0 -- --

3 0 600165 INSURANCE - $1.00 per $ $1.00 $3.00
3 0 -- --

5 0 166527 RON CENTENARIO XX ANJOS $31.99 $159.95
5 0 -- 750

2 0 163239 ZAYA RUM 750 TRINADAD $25.99 $51.98
2 0 -- --

2 0 165583 FLOR DE CANA 18YR 750 $34.99 $69.98
2 0 -- --

Thank you so very much for your business.

[poker]

Can you believe none of it is for me? LOL :r

[The Professor]

Can you believe none of it is for me? LOL :r
dude! :r

[poker]

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Is 32.99 a decent price?

[The Professor]

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Is 32.99 a decent price?
That's about right -- average, I'd say. You can probably get it cheaper in FL; but you can also pay a lot more elsewhere. Love that stuff. :dr Haven't had it in faaaaarrrrrr too long. :dr

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These definetly dont suck

Will have to try the last one:hm got the top 3 though :al

[Parrotheadduff]

I particularly enjoy Pyrat XO and Appleton Estate rums.

[Shadow]

Really line the Ron Zacapa 23 and the Zaya.

Got hooked on Brugal Extra Viejo while in the Dominican Republic last March. And I can get it at my local store! Now I'm hunting for Brugal Unico, a 30 year rum.

[JohnnyFlake]

A host of great Rums have already been mentioned! I'd like to add a link to some truly great Plantation Rums as well: http://www.plantationrum.com/en/produits.php

The 1998 series (Jamaica, Nicaragua & Grenada) and all worthy Rums, especially the Jamaica, at least IMHO.

If your serious about Rum, you should give all of these a try. You will be amazed at how good they really are!!!

[Mark C]

I've got the Trinidad 1993, Jamaica 8 Yr Old (no date on the bottle), and Trinidad 1991. The Jamaica is harsh, but sorta in a good way. I like it on cold nights by the fire, it definitely needs to be chilled or served on ice. The two Trinidad bottles are very different. I think I prefer the 1993, the '91 seems kinda harsh, but in a bad way.

[tsolomon]

Just picked up 2 bottle of Zaya in Maryland, Montgomery County no less. They had it on sale for $30, but only one store had it. It's the new one from Trinidad.
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[atlharp]

Here in North Kakalaki the liquor stores blow on high. The only rum worth a sh*t is Zaya. I just finished off a big glass of it (neat, room temperature, and in a brandy glass). Absolutely kick-ass! Wish I could get Centanario here:mad:

ATL

[JohnnyFlake]

Here in North Kakalaki the liquor stores blow on high. The only rum worth a sh*t is Zaya. I just finished off a big glass of it (neat, room temperature, and in a brandy glass). Absolutely kick-ass! Wish I could get Centanario here:mad:

ATL

Where in the world is North Kakalaki?

Maybe we can work out a trade or something.

[MithShrike]

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I gave a bottle of that to my friend for her birthday. We drank it down between the five of us. Lucky for me I got a bottle for myself too! $30 is not bad at all. it tastes like vanilla extract smells. :al

[Savvy]

I really got into rum before I went into the Air Force, rum and bourbon actually. But I really enjoyed the original Zaya that I managed to get my hands on, I'll have to try the new stuff when I am allowed to have alcohol in my possession again. I also want to try the Zacapa as well as some of the others here. This thread is not good for me or my wallet right now... Looking forward to getting back into it though. :al

[Sancho]

I had some original zaya left when I bought my latest trini blend and I could taste at best a minimal difference in flavor the trini is perceptably a hair sweeter on the finish than the original but I think for swapping countries and production they did a amazing job of maintaining the original flavor of the original. I firmy believe, hands down its the best rum available for the money up in my parts. Having sampled all mentioned by poker :2

[physiognomy]

Can anyone recommend Ron Anejo Aniversario Pampero or compare it to Zaya/Zacapa? I enjoy both & am thinking of picking up a bottle of Pampero since a local store has it for $32.

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[Mark C]

I love the Pampero. Personally, a bit more than Zacapa (I lean towards less sweet rums). It's not as sweet, but still smooth and delicious. Many of the same flavors. Definitely worth the money.

[rizzle]

Where in the world is North Kakalaki?
Maybe we can work out a trade or something.

You ain't from the South, are ya?
:r:r

[Darrell]

Can anyone recommend Ron Anejo Aniversario Pampero or compare it to Zaya/Zacapa? I enjoy both & am thinking of picking up a bottle of Pampero since a local store has it for $32.

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Get it, it's delicious. :dr

[physiognomy]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Pampero... I will be picking up a bottle this week or next.

[wayner123]

Look what showed up at my house today!!

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I don't think I will ever have the chance to get more, so I am going to take my time with this bottle.

[gorob23]

Get it, it's delicious. :dr

EXCELLENT Choice:tu

Rob

[gorob23]

Can you believe none of it is for me? LOL :r

WTF is wrong with you!!:rolleyes:

Rob

[poker]

I get it for you, dumas! :D

[gorob23]

I get it for you, dumas! :D

:tpd: no need your constant friendship is plenty ..ok that and your G/F:D

[poker]

:tpd: no need your constant friendship is plenty ..ok that and your G/F:D

Tiff is not available ;)

[Langod]

Question:
The only really good "sipping" rum that I recognize and that I've found in the State Liquor stores up here is Pyrat XO.

So how does Pyrat compare to the rums that you all are raving about here like Zaya, Rhum Barbancourt, Ron Zacapa, etc... Am I missing out on a lot?

Also anyone have a opinion on Rhum Clement? I recently tried some Clement Creole Shrubb which is an orange infused rum-based liqueur and was very good. I'm curious if their premium rum is good stuff, too. http://www.rhumclement.net/main/

[Mark C]

You're missing out. I find Pyrat to be fairly sweet, so in that way it's similar to Zaya and Zacapa, but the flavors are very different. Pyrat is a little lighter in body, I'd say medium at most, while Zacapa is more full. I get a dominant orange flavor from Pyrat that pushes everything else out of the picture, while Zacapa is more molasses, vanilla, and a little wood. Haven't tried it, but I hear the new Zaya is similar, with much more emphasis on vanilla.

Barbancourt is a different animal altogether. It's not a sweet rum, and the flavors depend on which bottle you buy (i.e. the age of the rum). The older versions are fuller bodied rums with 'darker' flavors, not as bright as the sweet rums.

Rhum Clement is also an entirely different thing, being a rhum agricole from Martinique. That type of rum tends to present more floral flavors, no molasses, little wood, and a medium body. It's a little more complex, and a little more subtle than the 'in your face' rums like Zacapa. If you can find it, grab a bottle.

[Cyanide]

I am going to have to agree with someone on the first page of this thread....

Matusalem is by far the best Rum I have come across and tasted.

That said, I have seen a bottle of Appleton's 30 yr rum before. I don't know if its better, never tried it....but if I ever see it again I will be getting it and then I will have an opinion. I am betting I will end up changing my answer....not that I am biased or anything

Cyanide

[Bubba - NJ]

All the talk of Zaya and the vanilla flavor has got me intrigued . I'm a beer guy with probably 20 different beers on hand and I do enjoy Port occasionally . Would the Zaya be a good place for a Rum Rookie to start ? The only other info I can add is that I do like mixed drinks made with rum . All the standard resort concoctions except I've never had a Mojito .

[Rowdymon]

A couple of rums I enjoy...

Brugals, good enough to sip on a regular basis, yet inexpensive enough to serve to folks who aren't picky.

Don Q, Serralles - a good sipping rum, and their crystal is good for mixing

Planters Gold, another good sipping rum.

H Club is awesome, but being illegal, I hide it and horde it.

[Darrell]

All the talk of Zaya and the vanilla flavor has got me intrigued . I'm a beer guy with probably 20 different beers on hand and I do enjoy Port occasionally . Would the Zaya be a good place for a Rum Rookie to start ? The only other info I can add is that I do like mixed drinks made with rum . All the standard resort concoctions except I've never had a Mojito .

Zaya is a good start. :tu

[Mark C]

Zaya is a good start. :tu

:tpd: I've never met anyone who didn't like Zaya. The sweet and smooth qualities make it very easy to sip.

[JohnnyFlake]

All the talk of Zaya and the vanilla flavor has got me intrigued . I'm a beer guy with probably 20 different beers on hand and I do enjoy Port occasionally . Would the Zaya be a good place for a Rum Rookie to start ? The only other info I can add is that I do like mixed drinks made with rum . All the standard resort concoctions except I've never had a Mojito .

Zaya is certainly a good place to start.

Shame on you, for never having a Mojito. You should make that a priority!!!

[Bubba - NJ]

Thanks for the help . When I go and get my father his bottle of Crown Royal Reserve for Christmas I'll have to look for the Zaya .

[replicant_argent]

I despise all of you. Whenever I read a rum thread, for some reason, I drool.
I do enjoy the Guat Zaya, and have tried a couple of the very common other brands listed here, but hope to branch out a bit myself when the itch becomes a scratch.


Note to the rum rookies, however, you want a white or silver rum for Mojitos, not a dark or anejo. One of the Rummies can correct me if I am wrong, though.

[Mark C]

Note to the rum rookies, however, you want a white or silver rum for Mojitos, not a dark or anejo. One of the Rummies can correct me if I am wrong, though.

A dark rum will work fine if that's what you want/have available. I use lighter/white rums for mixing because they tend to be cheaper, and the complexities of a premium rum tend to get lost in a mixed drink. Kinda like smoking a Siglo VI instead of a yardgar while mowin' the lawn.

[GUSTO]

So I've read elsewhere from those who have tried both that the Zaya from Guatemala is definitely better than the current one from Trinidad.
Are you saying the Trinidad variety is an excellent rum as well ?

Tried the NC Matusalem for the first time last night and thought it rocked!

[JbGilmore]

This is going to be hard to find for most of you I believe but there is a rum that is new to the scene called Kilo Kai that is pretty awesome! Definitely grab a bottle if you ever come across it!

[JohnnyFlake]

This is going to be hard to find for most of you I believe but there is a rum that is new to the scene called Kilo Kai that is pretty awesome! Definitely grab a bottle if you ever come across it!

My son mentioned that rum to me a few weeks ago, while we were discussing a few different spirits. My son lives in the Chicago suburbs. I believe he said that it was only available in Illinois and a few other mid-west states. I have to laugh, as his description was just the opposite of yours, saying that is was pure rot gut! I guess I'll have to get my hands on some to see for myself!

[Mark C]

So I've read elsewhere from those who have tried both that the Zaya from Guatemala is definitely better than the current one from Trinidad.
Are you saying the Trinidad variety is an excellent rum as well ?

Tried the NC Matusalem for the first time last night and thought it rocked!

From what I've read it's about 50/50. Seems like the people who were diehard Zaya whores prefer the old version, but most accept the new one is good, just not AS good. The rest of the crowd who didn't buy Zaya by the case seem to think it's comparable, some say it's hard to differentiate, and some say it's better. Everyone has their favorite, but it seems to me the new Zaya is still considered a good to excellent rum, depending on your tastes.

[Bubba - NJ]

I got my bottle of Zaya and tried it on the rocks . I'm not real wild about the flavor but it did immediately coat my tongue . Any recommendations as to what I could do to get myself to tolerate the flavor . I didn't get any sweetness from it at all . :confused:

[Mark C]

I didn't get any sweetness from it at all . :confused:

Sweet flavors are much more noticeable at warmer temperatures, so use less ice. I like sweet rums like Zaya and Zacapa neat. If that's not your taste, try a single ice cube. If THAT doesn't work, pour it in a glass of coke :D

[Wolfgang]

picked up a bottle of Trini Zaya for 26.99 the other day. Had a glass and chucked the bicardi that was sitting in the bar. Lol

[BengalMan]

Speaking of rum's, I'm in Hawaii right now and in Waikiki in the Sherraton hotel there is a bar called Rum & Fire. THis place is flat out unreal. 101 different bottles of rum with some of the most amazing Mai Tai's and Mojito's I've ever had. Not to mention they are pouring Guatemalan Zaya. Were going back tomorrow night, I'll try and get some pictures and update this thread with them.

http://www.rumfirewaikiki.com/

[BengalMan]

Picked up a few bottles recently. I just bought a bottle of Pyrat XO, another bottle of Zacapa 23, and am waiting on 3 bottles of Guatemalan Zaya from a brother on here.

[Mark C]

Been meaning to post about rum, had the chance to try a few new ones over the holidays:

Bacardi 8 - I was pleasantly surprised. A lot more flavor in this one than every other Bacardi I've tried, and for the price, it's really darn good. I'd definitely buy this for mixing or even straight sipping. It's not terribly complex, but that's part of the Puerto Rican style that I like.

Don Q Grand Anejo - I was a little let down by this one. It's good, but tastes young for something labeled 'grand anejo'. Needed ice to cut the burn a bit, and the flavors were somewhat muted. Not bad, but a bit overpriced.

Zaya - I finally got my hands on a bottle. I started looking for one last January, but by then all the local shops had sold out and didn't get any more in until the shift to Trinidad rum. Definitely a strong vanilla flavor in this rum, very smooth, and quite sweet. It reminds me very much of the other Angostura rums, probably closer to the 1919 with a bit more sweetness. I've long been a fan of Angostura though, and I like the vanilla, so I'm very pleased with this one. I have no idea how it compares to the old bottle (can't find it locally, can't order it online...stupid state laws), but I'm happy with this one.

[rizzle]

Been meaning to post about rum, had the chance to try a few new ones over the holidays:

Bacardi 8 - I was pleasantly surprised. A lot more flavor in this one than every other Bacardi I've tried, and for the price, it's really darn good. I'd definitely buy this for mixing or even straight sipping. It's not terribly complex, but that's part of the Puerto Rican style that I like.

Don Q Grand Anejo - I was a little let down by this one. It's good, but tastes young for something labeled 'grand anejo'. Needed ice to cut the burn a bit, and the flavors were somewhat muted. Not bad, but a bit overpriced.

Zaya - I finally got my hands on a bottle. I started looking for one last January, but by then all the local shops had sold out and didn't get any more in until the shift to Trinidad rum. Definitely a strong vanilla flavor in this rum, very smooth, and quite sweet. It reminds me very much of the other Angostura rums, probably closer to the 1919 with a bit more sweetness. I've long been a fan of Angostura though, and I like the vanilla, so I'm very pleased with this one. I have no idea how it compares to the old bottle (can't find it locally, can't order it online...stupid state laws), but I'm happy with this one.
I've got a buddy that this is the only rum he drinks. I don't get it, doesn't do anything for me.

PS: Going to crack that 1 Barrel to try soon.

[SmokeyNL]

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was for sale at an Amsterdam shop, made croatan drool a bit :D

[SilverFox]

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was for sale at an Amsterdam shop, made croatan drool a bit :D


That is devine

[SmokeyNL]

I only know it from looking at it, but even the bottle is amazing as is the glass that is included. it also comes with an invitation for the HC factory in Cuba

[Skywalker]

Thoughts on Montecristo???
http://www.seanthompson.org/bottles.jpg

I enjoyed the Silver a lot!!!

[rizzle]

Never tried it. Sorry.

[coach]

Thoughts on Montecristo???
http://www.seanthompson.org/bottles.jpg

I enjoyed the Silver a lot!!!


thought the 12yr had a "scotch" overtone" IMO

[Skywalker]

thought the 12yr had a "scotch" overtone" IMO

Thank you!!!:tu

[Parshooter]

thought the 12yr had a "scotch" overtone" IMO

It does when you chase it with scotch :dance:

[Mark C]

Thoughts on Montecristo???


I enjoyed the Silver a lot!!!

Never had it, but it comes from the same distillery as Zacapa and the original Zaya, probably a good indicator of quality.

[CgarWyzrd]

The best I have tasted is the Havana Club Barrel Proof.

[romwarrior]

Went by Hi Time Wines today and grabbed a bottle of Zaya (Trinidad) and Zacapa 23. My first of either of these. Had the Zaya tonight with a Monte Edmundo. Boy, the Zaya is a vanilla-fest. It had a tag on it saying "The world's best sipping rum." Maybe so, but the truth is that to me the vanilla overpowered everything else. It reminded me of a vanilla rum my uncle used to drink in his rum and Coke. I will probably not have Zaya while smoking. It probably is a great sipping rum, just not with cigars, at least for me. Of course if you like vanilla then the Zaya would be right up your alley.

I did try the Zacapa 23 afterwards. Now that is more like it. So smooth and much more to my tastes. I am definitely no rum expert, but it was no contest. Zacapa 23 by a mile. :dr :dr

[BeerAdvocate]

Zacapa 23 is my favorite by far. I also like Pyrat XO - its made by the same people who make Patron Tequila.

[BengalMan]

Pyrat XO I liked at first, however, now I taste so much orange in it that it's like I'm drinking Gran Marnea (sp?).

Now Cask 13 is a whole nother story.

[romwarrior]

Yeah, I think Pyrat is very similar to Zaya in the sense that it has one dominant flavor. Except with Pyrat, orange is the dominant flavor instead of vanilla. But I don't think the orange is quite as overpowering in Pyrat as the vanilla is in Zaya so I like it much better. Either way, I like the overall balance of Zacapa 23 over both.

[Wanger]

Went by Hi Time Wines today and grabbed a bottle of Zaya (Trinidad) and Zacapa 23. My first of either of these. Had the Zaya tonight with a Monte Edmundo. Boy, the Zaya is a vanilla-fest. It had a tag on it saying "The world's best sipping rum." Maybe so, but the truth is that to me the vanilla overpowered everything else. It reminded me of a vanilla rum my uncle used to drink in his rum and Coke. I will probably not have Zaya while smoking. It probably is a great sipping rum, just not with cigars, at least for me. Of course if you like vanilla then the Zaya would be right up your alley.

I did try the Zacapa 23 afterwards. Now that is more like it. So smooth and much more to my tastes. I am definitely no rum expert, but it was no contest. Zacapa 23 by a mile. :dr :dr

Trinidad Zaya sucks compared to the old stuff from Guatemala. I've had them side by side, and I don't notice the vanilla anywhere near as much in the Guat version, which is also appreciably smoother than the Trinidad version. I'm very disappointed with how they screwed up this once top notch rum. :(

[che g.]

I have a rum question for you rum aficinados. I am about to have a friend (over seas) sending me a bottle of zacapa 23 (not avileble her), the cost (shipping included) would be the same as a bottle of el dorado 15 would cost me at the shop her at home.. It seems that both the zacapa and the el dorado are nice rums when reading your posts. Should I go for the zacapa (with the extra hassle with overseas shipping) or would the el dorado be a as good choice as the zacapa?
The plan is that he would send me a bottle of Elmer T. Lee bourbon at the same time. For thoose of you that also like bourbon, is this a good choice, given the price?
Thanks (in)mates:tu

[romwarrior]

To me, the Zacapa 23 would be worth the trouble. But I am not an aficionado nor have I ever had the El Dorado. The Zacapa 23 is GOOD. Not only does it put the other rums I've had to shame (which, admittedly, is not a ton), it puts many other spirits to shame. While I like variety, I find myself constantly wishing I had poured the 23 whenever I have something else.

[Smokin Gator]

The best I have tasted is the Havana Club Barrel Proof.

I just got a bottle of this last month. I haven't cracked it open yet, but I sure am looking forward to it.

[Darrell]

Picked up a few bottles recently. I just bought a bottle of Pyrat XO, another bottle of Zacapa 23, and am waiting on 3 bottles of Guatemalan Zaya from a brother on here.

I've heard Pyrat is RANK!

[poker]

I've heard Pyrat is RANK!

I've heard the Pyrat Cask 23 is actually quite good. But at $240.00 a bottle, the term "good" becomes very subjective.



Review:
http://scottesrum.com/category/all-rum-reviews/pyrat-cask-23/

[Cyanide]

Does that mean I have no class if I like Pyrat XO Reserve quite a bit? Its currently my top rum. I recently picked up a bottle of Appletons Master Blenders Legacy I think....its 30 yrs old. But, for a $100 CDN bottle of rum, it wasn't as good as I was expecting.

That said, I was introduced to Legendario Elixur recently. When I find that, it will spend some time as the TOPS for me.

[BengalMan]

I've heard the Pyrat Cask 23 is actually quite good. But at $240.00 a bottle, the term "good" becomes very subjective.



Review:
http://scottesrum.com/category/all-rum-reviews/pyrat-cask-23/

Cask 23 is very good, much different than the XO.

[poker]

Who implied you had no class? I didn't see that.


Like cigars, taste in rums can be very subjective from person to person. Drink what you enjoy!:tu

[rizzle]

http://www.shoppersvineyard.com/img/productImages/03277.gif

My wife recently gave me a bottle of this, Vizcaya VXOP Cask No. 21. I had never heard of it before and she was turned on to it by one of the guys where I normally buy my rums. It is agricole, made from pure sugar cane and fermented in old oak bourbon barrrels. I like it. It has some spice up front and plenty of the sweetness on the finish that I like, others may not like as much, in a sipping rum. I'll give it a thumbs up and will buy it again.

[Cyanide]

Who implied you had no class? I didn't see that.


Like cigars, taste in rums can be very subjective from person to person. Drink what you enjoy!:tu

I didn't take any offense, I was just turning his argument into a "straw man" for purposes of having fun.

Cheers

John

[poker]

Silly Canadians :r

[Wanger]

I have a rum question for you rum aficinados. I am about to have a friend (over seas) sending me a bottle of zacapa 23 (not avileble her), the cost (shipping included) would be the same as a bottle of el dorado 15 would cost me at the shop her at home.. It seems that both the zacapa and the el dorado are nice rums when reading your posts. Should I go for the zacapa (with the extra hassle with overseas shipping) or would the el dorado be a as good choice as the zacapa?
The plan is that he would send me a bottle of Elmer T. Lee bourbon at the same time. For thoose of you that also like bourbon, is this a good choice, given the price?
Thanks (in)mates:tu

Haven't had the Zacapa, but I've had a couple bottles of El Dorado 12, and do like that a bit. There is not a lot of difference between the 12 and the 15, at least not that I had tasted, so either would be a good investment, IMO.

[Wondering Nomad]

I'm very new to the rum scene (within the past month) and have been drinking a fair amount of Flor de Cana 7, 10 Cane, and Pyrat XO. Can anybody tell me how Pyrat Pistol differs from the XO?

I'm very excited that I've "found" something new to drink. My bank account does not feel the same.

[Wanger]

I've tried the Pistol and am not a fan of it as a sipper. It was very sweet and had a citrus taste to me. It tasted like it belonged on ice cream as a topping and not as an asult beverage in my mouth. Just my opinion on it. Wish I could compare it to the XO. maybe some time later.

[Mark C]

Can anybody tell me how Pyrat Pistol differs from the XO?

I can't tell a difference. I've tried 'em side by side, both have heavy notes of orange/citrus and are fairly sweet.

[Wanger]

Had some Zacapa 23 (not the fully wrapped bottle) last night. A great rum, and likely what will replace Zaya for me. Smooth and warm, carmely taste is what I got from it.

[elderboy02]

I like the Pyrat Pistol for Rum and Coke's.

I like Zaya for sipping.

I am a total newb when it comes to Rum, so take that for what it's worth.

[Sauer Grapes]

My favorite at the moment is Zaya. I just wish I could compare the Guatemalan with the Trinidadian stuff. I've had both, and liked both, but really don't knwo what the difference was, as it was months between the time that I had them. Even my wife (not a rum drinker) will drink Zaya neat. :D

I've also had and liked Ron Matusalem Clasico.

HC 7 is another good one. Though I have had it side by side with Guatemalan Zaya, and preferred the Zaya. Just suited my palate better.

I know that I'll need to try some of the others that have been listed here, too

IMO, the new Zaya definitely has more vanilla taste and is a bit sweeter. The old had much less vanilla, less sweet, but had more taste if that makes any sense. More dimensions if you will. I preferred the old in a side by side test, but like both very much.

[DrDubzz]

Alright, the birthday money has started in, yesterday I got a bottle of Sailor Jerry and Appleton Estate Extra 12 year.

Today, I'm about to order a bottle of Zaya and RZ23. I think that'll hold me for a while.

[bowhnter]

I am going to have to read this thread when I have my laptop. Having been to Barbados we buy Mount Gay

[captain53]

I am going to have to read this thread when I have my laptop. Having been to Barbados we buy Mount Gay

Many private fishing boat trips to the islands in my life and I stick with the native choice Cruzan. I spend big $ on Single Malts and Cigars but hang with the Cruzan availble in TX at Specs for around $15/1.75 L In fact just got out of the pool after a few Cruzan & Cokes chasing a nice Comacho! Life Is Good!

[DrDubzz]

and I just picked up a bottle of Pompero from a local place

I'm done buying hooch for a while

[Steve]

Got my vote!

I've killed a bottle or two myself over the years...

I've found Ron Matusalem to be the best I've ever come in contact with.

[Mark C]

I'm done buying hooch for a while

You've said that once already ;)

I think that'll hold me for a while.

Once the rum bug bites, you're done. Don't fight it, just go buy more :D

[DrDubzz]

but now I'm really done... but I want to find some Averna locally, and I might pick up some Campari

[DrDubzz]

I might pick up a Cruzan or two tomorrow:tf

[DrDubzz]

got the Cruzan coconut and Blackstrap :D

and maybe a bottle of Appleton Estate Reserve...

[Mark C]

got the Cruzan coconut and Blackstrap :D

and maybe a bottle of Appleton Estate Reserve...

Never tried the Blackstrap, been meaning to though. If you've got a bottle of Gosling's Black Seal, how does it compare? If you don't... go get one ;)

[Barteur]

Got this directly from the Brugal factory

[DrDubzz]

Never tried the Blackstrap, been meaning to though. If you've got a bottle of Gosling's Black Seal, how does it compare? If you don't... go get one ;)

I don't have a bottle, I might get one down the road :D

but the blackstrap is excellent, Moooolassess

[Darrell]

Never tried the Blackstrap, been meaning to though. If you've got a bottle of Gosling's Black Seal, how does it compare? If you don't... go get one ;)

Gosling's is the only way to make a Dark N Stormy. In fact that reminds me, maybe I'll have one. :dr

[kgoings]

Found a bottle of Zaya Guat at a liqour store nearby!

[DrDubzz]

I finally found some ginger beer in town, at World Market.

it's Bundaberg from Australia. tonight I'll try an off-label dark and stormy

[Wanger]

Found a bottle of Zaya Guat at a liqour store nearby!

Lucky bastige!!!

[RGD.]

Never tried the Blackstrap, been meaning to though. If you've got a bottle of Gosling's Black Seal, how does it compare? If you don't... go get one ;)

Black Seal I like - have a couple bottles of it, and don't think you can compare the two against each other.

Black Seal - I like to call it a "hearty" rum. It's very unusual to me in the world of rums. Straight or mixed - it gives you two distinct tastes as if it was two different rums. Also keep in mind, if you've never seen a bottle of it, that the bottle itself is actually clear and not black!

Black Strap on the other hand left me with a please God - remove my tongue from my mouth and I'll go to church everyday and twice on Sunday.

Seriously - Black Strap tasted like it was distilled in old pig gut barrels with bridle straps cut from a dead horses ass tossed in for flavor.

Took four shots of Flor de Cana 12 year to cut the taste from my mouth.

Could just be me though - my friend Bob tried it and seemed to enjoy it. So either I'm way off base or he has a hankering for dead horse butt.


Ron

[DrDubzz]

I compared my Appleton Estates today (Reserve and Extra 12)

the Reserve was so much smoother, and slightly sweeter. the 12 year has a strong alcohol burn/kick at the end. I don't think I'll be drinking the 12 year unmixed, the reserve however seems to be good with a couple ice cubes

[Sauer Grapes]

Got my vote!

I've killed a bottle or two myself over the years...

:tpd: on the Ron Matusalem

I don't know whether to thank Ron or curse him for introducing me to this one. Zaya is great, and still probably my favorite, but Matusalem is such a great value at the price here, $26.

[DrDubzz]

Did a quick review of my three sipping rums: Zaya, RZ23 and Pampero
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http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o307/visheau/IMG_0047.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o307/visheau/IMG_0048.jpg

And...
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I liked the Ron Zacapa the best, sweet, but not artificially so, and very smooth.

2nd was the Pampero, less sweet than the RZ, and with an oaky hint, also quite smooth

3rd was the Zaya. I was most excited about this one, I love vanilla, and everyone says this has it in spades. Well it does, but it was the least smooth, and had the most alcohol bite. It was still good, but I think it will reside in the freezer.

[Mark C]

Black Strap on the other hand left me with a please God - remove my tongue from my mouth and I'll go to church everyday and twice on Sunday.

Seriously - Black Strap tasted like it was distilled in old pig gut barrels with bridle straps cut from a dead horses ass tossed in for flavor.

I've heard similar things, seems to be a love it or hate it kinda thing, with more people in the 'hate it' camp. I'm a big fan of Black Seal, and most of Cruzan's other rums, had high hopes for Blackstrap. Oh well.

I liked the Ron Zacapa the best, sweet, but not artificially so, and very smooth.

2nd was the Pampero, less sweet than the RZ, and with an oaky hint, also quite smooth

3rd was the Zaya. I was most excited about this one, I love vanilla, and everyone says this has it in spades. Well it does, but it was the least smooth, and had the most alcohol bite. It was still good, but I think it will reside in the freezer.

Great notes on those three, I agree with everything except the ranking. I'm partial to Pampero because it's less sweet and more 'oak-y'. I don't remember a 'bite' from Zaya though, especially served with an ice cube, guess I'll need to refresh my memory :al

[RGD.]

I've heard similar things, seems to be a love it or hate it kinda thing, with more people in the 'hate it' camp. I'm a big fan of Black Seal, and most of Cruzan's other rums, had high hopes for Blackstrap. Oh well.


Yep. I was looking forward to it myself. Not a fan obviously. You know after my year off from any spirits (due to medical problems) - Black Seal was my first rum choice when I was able to resume - :tu


. . . I don't remember a 'bite' from Zaya though, especially served with an ice cube, guess I'll need to refresh my memory :al

He didn't say if he was tasting the Trinidad or the Guatemalan version. In a recent side by side of the two I did notice a slight bite in the Trini version.


Ron

[RGD.]

:tpd: on the Ron Matusalem

I don't know whether to thank Ron or curse him for introducing me to this one. Zaya is great, and still probably my favorite, but Matusalem is such a great value at the price here, $26.

:fu Hey, I'm not an enabler - just making you aware of various products out there - :D

Love that Matusalem!


Ron

[DrDubzz]

It's the Trini version, and the bite wasn't bad, but it was present. But whoever said it tastes like vanilla extract smells was dead on.

the aftertaste is like pure adams extract on the palate, which I find enjoyable

[DrDubzz]

I'm revisiting the Zaya, with multiple ice cubes this time, and am not experiencing any bite. Just pure drunken vanilla... I likey

[s0leful0ne]

which Zaya do you guys prefer? Guatemalan or Trinidad?

[Wanger]

which Zaya do you guys prefer? Guatemalan or Trinidad?

GUATEMALAN!!!

Had them side by side and there was noticably more bite in the Trini version. And had too much vanilla for my taste.

[Veritas]

My current favorite is Zacapa 23, but after all the high praise, I intend to find a bottle of Zaya when I get home from this desert.

The only bottle in my collection that hasn't been mentioned is Seven Fathoms. It is currently only available in the Cayman Islands and is well worth trying if you can get your hands on it. The strong oak flavors are slightly reminiscent of a good bourbon. I am more stingy with this stuff than I am my pre-Patron Planters Gold Pyrat XO Reserve.

[Hendy]

These were dropped off at the house the other day. Nummy Nummy.
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww135/hendy4/New019.jpg

[SkinsFanLarry]

Scott, I certainly hope you tipped your delivery driver....very impressive "drop-off" to me! :tu :tu

(Oh, next time you see him, tell Bobby I said hey!)

[Wanger]

My current favorite is Zacapa 23, but after all the high praise, I intend to find a bottle of Zaya when I get home from this desert.



Unless you're going to try to find the Guatemalan version, don't bother. Zacapa is better than the Trini Zaya.

[Sancho]

which Zaya do you guys prefer? Guatemalan or Trinidad?

Which ever is available, most likely Trini. I think for changing locations they were able to maintain an amazingly high level of consistancey between the two blends :2 and fwiw, the Guat Montecristo is the best rum I've had from that distillary.

[Mark C]

My current favorite is Zacapa 23, but after all the high praise, I intend to find a bottle of Zaya when I get home from this desert.

The only bottle in my collection that hasn't been mentioned is Seven Fathoms. It is currently only available in the Cayman Islands and is well worth trying if you can get your hands on it. The strong oak flavors are slightly reminiscent of a good bourbon. I am more stingy with this stuff than I am my pre-Patron Planters Gold Pyrat XO Reserve.

My parents were on Grand Cayman this summer, brought me back a bottle of Seven Fathoms, and Havana Club. They actually brought 3 bottles of Seven Fathoms back, and managed to get two different batches. There's a noticeable difference between batch 9 and batch 10. If I remember right, 10 was the first batch with a new still. Since it's a small shop, there's room for that sort of variance from one lot to the next. I think that makes it even more interesting. Which lot is your bottle from?

In other rum news, I spent the weekend in St. Pete, FL and came home with a bottle of Barbancourt Grand Reserve, Prichard's, and Centenario rum. Tasted all three side by side, at room temp, neat.

Centenario tastes a lot like Zacapa 23. Haven't tried 'em side by side yet, but not sure I'd tell the difference otherwise.

Prichard's is quite good, especially since it's a Tennessee rum. Has a bit more barrel flavor, almost like a hint of Bourbon. I like the 'toasty' rums better than 'sweet' rums, so at first taste I put this above Centenario. Might improve with a tiny piece of ice, but not bad neat.

The Barbancourt is the loser of the bunch. It wasn't all that great, definitely not on par with the other two. Needs another try though, maybe on ice.

[Sauer Grapes]

Which ever is available, most likely Trini. I think for changing locations they were able to maintain an amazingly high level of consistancey between the two blends :2 and fwiw, the Guat Montecristo is the best rum I've had from that distillary.

I tend to agree with this, other than the vanilla taste in the new version. The old version was a bit smoother, but if I don't compare side by side, only the vanilla stands out as a difference.

[Veritas]

My parents were on Grand Cayman this summer, brought me back a bottle of Seven Fathoms, and Havana Club. They actually brought 3 bottles of Seven Fathoms back, and managed to get two different batches. There's a noticeable difference between batch 9 and batch 10. If I remember right, 10 was the first batch with a new still. Since it's a small shop, there's room for that sort of variance from one lot to the next. I think that makes it even more interesting. Which lot is your bottle from?
I don't know. The bottles are patiently sitting on a shelf waiting for my return from this desert. What did you think of the "underwater rum?"

I also have a bottle of Havana Club that has been in a closet since I brought it home in 2002. I really need to crack the seal on that one.

[Mark C]

I don't know. The bottles are patiently sitting on a shelf waiting for my return from this desert. What did you think of the "underwater rum?"

I also have a bottle of Havana Club that has been in a closet since I brought it home in 2002. I really need to crack the seal on that one.

I like the 'underwater rum'. Pretty smooth, clean, not too complicated, not sweet, fits what I like to call the 'spanish-style' rums, i.e. rums from Spanish-influenced islands like Puerto Rico, Cuba, Dominican Republic, etc. I'd love to see this rum aged a bit longer, I usually like a little more barrel flavor in my rums and it could stand to smooth out a bit.

Seven Fathoms is a good rum, but I like the Havana Club better. I've got the HC7, tastes a lot like what I would hope Seven Fathoms would taste like after 7 years in oak, a bit smoother, more wood flavors, etc. What're you waiting for, crack that bottle!

[GreekGodX]

Having some Ron Anejo Anneversario right now. I definitely rank this as my least favorite. Still good but rather have something else :td

Have to go 1. Ron Centenario 2. Zacapa 3. Zaya 4. Anneversario

[yourchoice]

After reading through this thread and tasting it at the Philadelphia Whiskey Festival I picked up a bottle of Zacapa 23. Wow...outstanding stuff. I didn't even know I liked rum, guess I just had to try a good one! :r Thanks to all contributors to the thread. :tu

[s15driftking]

Bounty rum from St. Lucia!

[BrandonJ]

For something on the relative cheap I really like Appleton Estates... But if I have the scratch its always a bottle of Ron Matusalem.... Yum!

[Veritas]

For something on the relative cheap I really like Appleton Estates... But if I have the scratch its always a bottle of Ron Matusalem.... Yum!
Rhum Barbancourt is another good modestly priced rum. I always add a few drops of water to take away a little of the bite.

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[Veritas]

My parents were on Grand Cayman this summer, brought me back a bottle of Seven Fathoms, and Havana Club. They actually brought 3 bottles of Seven Fathoms back, and managed to get two different batches. There's a noticeable difference between batch 9 and batch 10. If I remember right, 10 was the first batch with a new still. Since it's a small shop, there's room for that sort of variance from one lot to the next. I think that makes it even more interesting. Which lot is your bottle from?

Both bottles are Batch 006.

[vankleekkw]

Just found this thread, but my favorites are

1. El Dorado 21 Year
2. Diplomatico
3. Zacapa
4. Matusalem

[Mark C]

Every time this thread gets bumped, I get thirsty. I asked Santa for a bottle of Vizcaya, anyone else got rum on their list?

[Wanger]

A couple weeks back, I had some Ron Botran, which I thought was quite good. :) If I were getting anything, I'd have it there! (the wife and I have agreed not to buy each other presents for Christmas this year)

[poker]

Newest acquisitions:

http://www.hitimewine.net/istarimages/mp/167889!4045-11145.jpg
http://www.hitimewine.net/istarimages/mp/167887!1104-11146.jpg
http://www.hitimewine.net/istarimages/mp/165583!1104-6566.jpg

[Mark C]

Looks good! What's that top one, I can't quite read the label?

[replicant_argent]

I hate this thread.

[kgoings]

Looks good! What's that top one, I can't quite read the label?

RON MILLONARIO 15YR

http://www.hitimewine.net/istar.asp?a=6&id=167889!4045

[Mark C]

RON MILLONARIO 15YR

http://www.hitimewine.net/istar.asp?a=6&id=167889!4045

"Aromas of prune, allspice, dates, nutmeg, cloves, balsam, Demerara sugar and dried-fig build to also show caramel, candied tree fruits, maple, butter toffee and molasses—each carving a marvelous invitation to taste. The palate is full with treacle, sweet tea, Lazarakia, mince tart, Panettone, Marzipan, toffee bathed in a lovely sweetness that washes the palate but maintains a clean, salient limpidity. The simple mouth-feel reveals dried fruits, caramel, fig custard, sultanas and butterscotch. All this leads to a solid finish, with lovely balance that articulates in a gentle fade that is rich with excellent palate activity. "

Wow. When did Cigar Aficionado start writing rum descriptions? Candied tree fruits...mince tart... Lazarakia... what the hell is all that crap?

[smokin5]

A friend recently gifted me a Cruzan Black Strap rum.
Made with molasses & Oh! so good. Definitely recommend this one.

[physiognomy]

http://www.hitimewine.net/istarimages/mp/165583!1104-6566.jpg

Kelly, I'm not all that familiar with Flor de Cana rums, but I brought a bottle of the 18yr to the Shack this year and wasn't really that impressed to be honest... (that said, it did disappear pretty quick ;)) I was drinking mostly Diplomatico & Pampero Aniversario at the time and found the FdC 18yr to be rougher and much 'hotter' (for want of a better descriptor) on the palate. I picked mine up locally for a similar price to HTW, but won't be buying it again any time soon. I hope you have a better experience.

[Veritas]

I hate this thread.
Only because it makes me drool.
:dr:dr

[icehog3]

Newest acquisitions:


http://www.hitimewine.net/istarimages/mp/167887!1104-11146.jpg


"Aromas of prune, allspice, dates, nutmeg, cloves, balsam, Demerara sugar and dried-fig build to also show caramel, candied tree fruits, maple, butter toffee and molasses—each carving a marvelous invitation to taste. The palate is full with treacle, sweet tea, Lazarakia, mince tart, Panettone, Marzipan, toffee bathed in a lovely sweetness that washes the palate but maintains a clean, salient limpidity. The simple mouth-feel reveals dried fruits, caramel, fig custard, sultanas and butterscotch. All this leads to a solid finish, with lovely balance that articulates in a gentle fade that is rich with excellent palate activity. "

Wow. When did Cigar Aficionado start writing rum descriptions? Candied tree fruits...mince tart... Lazarakia... what the hell is all that crap?

A friend turned me on to a sale on the RZ XO, so I figured since Zacapa 23 is my favorite now (along with Centenario), I should try the premium stuff while it's a bargain...hopefully it gets here ny New Years. :dr

I do find the description of flavors on the vendor website rather amusing, although not quite as over the top as the one Mark posted for the Ron Millonario.

On the nose, Ron Zacapa XO displays rich notes of toasted oak, burnt caramel, roasted nuts, marzipan and orange peel. Smooth and sweet on the palate, flavors of dark chocolate, dried fruit, and baking spice lead to hints of mango and ginger on the lingering finish.

[Darrell]

Where is the sale at Tom?

[icehog3]

Where is the sale at Tom?

Here ya go, Darrell. :D

http://shoppersvineyard.com/1/56119/RON-ZACAPA-XO-CENTENARIO-SOLERA-GRAN-RESERVA-ESPECIAL-RUM

[replicant_argent]

They have a nice selection of rums there, Tom. I just spent a few minutes perusing and there are a few premium looking rums that look interesting. I need to go to the Ministry and do some research, evidently.

[Neuromancer]

Anyone actually taste the Ron Zacapa XO and can say how it compares to the Ron Zacapa 23 Anos? For my money that's my favorite, and the smoothest of all I think...how does the XO compare?

[icehog3]

Anyone actually taste the Ron Zacapa XO and can say how it compares to the Ron Zacapa 23 Anos? For my money that's my favorite, and the smoothest of all I think...how does the XO compare?

I can't speak from experience...yet. But I understand it is a little less sweet, and more complex. Hopefully I review it from experience in a few days.

[poker]

I haven't opened my bottle of the RZ XO yet. Waiting for Tom to show up on the patio. :)

[icehog3]

I haven't opened my bottle of the RZ XO yet. Waiting for Tom to show up on the patio. :)

That an invite? :D

[poker]

Always brother

[SNKBYT]

Anyone actually taste the Ron Zacapa XO and can say how it compares to the Ron Zacapa 23 Anos? For my money that's my favorite, and the smoothest of all I think...how does the XO compare?

I like the 23 best, but at 37 to 44 a bottle.....its hard (& $$) to keep at lot of it on hand to drink daily
Zaya 12yr makes a great everyday rum at only about 27 to 33 a bottle

not that I like rum or know what I'm talking about

[DrDubzz]

for about 23 dollars the Appleton Estate Reserve is a nice sipper

[icehog3]

Always brother

:D

[Wanger]

Picked up some Ron Pampero Anejo in a leather bag today. Will post some sort of review later. :)

[icehog3]

Dave ESQ is coming over tonight for a smoke, think I will break open the Zacapa XO and give it a shot. :)

[replicant_argent]

Cruzan Single Barrel < Zaya, by far.

[Mark C]

Cruzan Single Barrel < Zaya, by far.

Depends what you like. I'm a fan of both, but they're different styles, apples and oranges really. CSB is cheaper though :D

[icehog3]

Tried the Zacapa XO...smoothest rum I have ever had. Not as sweet as the Zacapa 23, and a perfect complement for a cigar. :tu

[RevSmoke]

Gosling's Black Seal - Cheap, available everywhere, delicious. Don't ever buy Meyer's Dark when Gosling's is sitting nearby.

Pyrat XO - Not bad, but I have a hard time getting paste the citrusy/orange flavor. Almost seems too 'orangey' to be real. Great on ice though.



OK, have tried the Black Seal, and it is tasty. Was given a bottle of Brugal Anejo by a brother on the board and have enjoyed a bit of that.

Now, here's the dilemna. I tasted the Zaya, wanted to get some of my own. So, I've been looking for some Zaya & Ron Zacapa, but noplace nearby (within an hour drive) has them.

I did find a bottle of the Pyrat XO for $26 so I snagged that and had some with an Oliva Connecticut Lonsdale today - very nice pairing. I kind of like the citrusy notes in this rum.

[poker]

So, I've been looking for some Zaya & Ron Zacapa, but noplace nearby (within an hour drive) has them.


Hitimewine.net normally has both and will ship to your state. They are a real brick & mortar retailer and not virtual.
(I have no affiliation with said vendor)

[RevSmoke]

Hitimewine.net normally has both and will ship to your state. They are a real brick & mortar retailer and not virtual.
(I have no affiliation with said vendor)

Thanks. They have some very nice prices there. If I had not bought the bottle yesterday...

I have bookmarked it and will get back there at a later date.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

[romwarrior]

I did find a bottle of the Pyrat XO for $26 so I snagged that and had some with an Oliva Connecticut Lonsdale today - very nice pairing. I kind of like the citrusy notes in this rum.

Me too, but I hate the vanilla notes in the new Zaya. Funny how things work.

[SNKBYT]

Zaya is a good everyday rum for me (beats the hell outta mosts)
Zappa 23 or Centenario XX for special events/herfs/when I feel like something better
(none of above as mixers, straight up only)

[RevSmoke]

OK, I have done many wines - am no expert, but no neophyte.

Like my Single Malts Scotch and Irish Whiskey - know what I can afford, and know what I like.

Plenty of decent small batch Bourbans out there.

Enjoy a good Cognac &/or Aragnac.

Never thought of rums as anything other than a mixer. Usually bought the cheap ones, since when you mix it, you can't really taste the nuances anyway.

Now, I have been exposed to good rums - sipping rums -- and have a few questions.

Why do the really good Whiskeys run $50 and more, and the great rums start at about $25 and you can get award winners for $35 or less?

Is it just me, or do good rums taste best warmer, like a Cognac?

Peace of the Lord be with you.

[SNKBYT]

Is it just me, or do good rums taste best warmer, like a Cognac?


I find the rums I sip are better at room temp....chilling just makes them cold and warming changes the taste :2

[wayner123]

Zaya is a good everyday rum for me (beats the hell outta mosts)
Zappa 23 or Centenario XX for special events/herfs/when I feel like something better
(none of above as mixers, straight up only)

Is that the Trini Zaya or the Guatemala Zaya?

[Mark C]

Is it just me, or do good rums taste best warmer, like a Cognac?

Depends on the rum. The sweet rums like Zaya, Zacapa, etc. I like at room temperature. Too cold and the sweetness overpowers the flavors.

I'm partial to a more 'dry' style usually (Ron del Barrilito is my favorite), and I think they benefit from being slightly chilled, just a small ice chip or two. I figure it's using cold to help smooth out the alcohol instead of sugar.

I've heard others say that a few drops of water can 'open up' a glass of rum, but I haven't noticed that.

[mtaill]

I love the El Dorado 12 and 15 yrs old, the Mount Gay Extra Old
Would love to try the Ron Zacapa and Pyrat XO, but not available up north :-(

[SNKBYT]

Is that the Trini Zaya or the Guatemala Zaya?

its Trini........hard to find the Guate

[icehog3]

I love the El Dorado 12 and 15 yrs old, the Mount Gay Extra Old
Would love to try the Ron Zacapa and Pyrat XO, but not available up north :-(

Where are you at? They have Zacapa everywhere in Chicago.

[Blueface]

its Trini........hard to find the Guate

Isn't the Guatemala one history now?

[SNKBYT]

Isn't the Guatemala one history now?

yes it is but some mom & pop places might still have some on the shelves

[Wanger]

yes it is but some mom & pop places might still have some on the shelves

Not the ones I looked at when we were down there, unfortunately. :( It's like a drug, really. LOL Just glad I have some left, but I want MORE. LOL :)

[chenvt]

I hope these don't suck or I'm gonna be pissed

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/210/img0148t.jpg

[RGD.]

I hope these don't suck or I'm gonna be pissed



They do. Nasty stuff. But all is not lost. I'll take them off your hand for $10 a bottle and use them for mixers. Just let me know when you want me to stop by.


:ss


Ron

[icehog3]

You are gonna dig it, Dan. :tu

[Wanger]

I hope these don't suck or I'm gonna be pissed

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/210/img0148t.jpg

LMK how they compare to the Zacapa 23. :)

[chenvt]

Lol mike, we talked about this.. I've never had hte 23.. I normally drank the 15, but it was between the XO and 23 and I could only get one so I went with the XO.. I'll try to pick up some 23 if I go to the city because I can't buy it anywhere near me (damn state controlled liquor).. I did have some 15 afterwards and there is a HUGE difference in terms of how smooth and complex the XO is

[icehog3]

Regarding the 23 vs the XO, I find the XO to be a little less sweet, and a little more smooth and complex, as Dan implies.

[SNKBYT]

I hope these don't suck or I'm gonna be pissed

how much did it cost ya a bottle?

[mithrilG60]

Has anyone else tried Renegade Rum (http://www.renegaderum.com/)? Difficult to find, and quite expensive as rum goes, but well worth the purchase if you come across a bottle. My wife bought me a bottle of the 1995 Panama Don Jose (http://renegaderum.com/2008donjose.html) from their 2008 release last year for Valentine's Day, such an amazingly beautiful rum. Even she, who never sips spirits because she can't get past the alcohol on the nose, enjoys this one neat in a snifter. We've since bought 2 more bottle for ourselves and 2 for her father.

Much more "scotchy" than most rums, however you'd expect that given that these are rums that are matured and aged by Bruichladdich in Scotland in the whisky tradition. Adding the different cask maturation stages gives a very different flavour profile to most rums.

[Wanger]

Lol mike, we talked about this.. I've never had hte 23.. I normally drank the 15, but it was between the XO and 23 and I could only get one so I went with the XO.. I'll try to pick up some 23 if I go to the city because I can't buy it anywhere near me (damn state controlled liquor).. I did have some 15 afterwards and there is a HUGE difference in terms of how smooth and complex the XO is

I know we did, Dan, but I have forgotten about it all. :p

Regarding the 23 vs the XO, I find the XO to be a little less sweet, and a little more smooth and complex, as Dan implies.

Thanks Tom!

[mtaill]

Where are you at? They have Zacapa everywhere in Chicago.

Quebec, Canada

[icehog3]

Quebec, Canada

Ah, WAY up North. :)

[Scottw]

A friend of mine and I drank and entire bottle of Zacapa 23 yr old last night. Mine was accompanied by the Padron 80th Anni (Like the regular 1926 maddie better) and a 07 Opus X power Ranger.My buddy smoked an 07 Monte #2 and a 09 opus power ranger. That rum was seriously good stuff.

[icehog3]

A friend of mine and I drank and entire bottle of Zacapa 23 yr old last night. Mine was accompanied by the Padron 80th Anni (Like the regular 1926 maddie better) and a 07 Opus X power Ranger.My buddy smoked an 07 Monte #2 and a 09 opus power ranger. That rum was seriously good stuff.

Damn, Scott! :al :tu :r

[Scottw]

It was a heckuva night Tom.

[Catfish]

too lazy to search, what's a reasonable price for guata. zaya?

found a local store w/ a case @ $40 pop.

[spooble]

too lazy to search, what's a reasonable price for guata. zaya?

found a local store w/ a case @ $40 pop.


Heck, the Trini version is $40 at my local Total Wine. I'd buy 2 or 3 bottles of the Guatemalan at that price.

[DrDubzz]

Finished off my Zaya last night

it has been replaced, for now, by some Cruzan Single Barrel Estate Rum

I still have half or more of my RZ23, Pampero and Appleton Reserve

[Mark C]

Finished off my Zaya last night

it has been replaced, for now, by some Cruzan Single Barrel Estate Rum

I still have half or more of my RZ23, Pampero and Appleton Reserve

Cruzan Single Barrel is my 'old faithful'. I think it's a great value, and it's easy to replace (rum selection is slim in most of MD). I like Pampero a little more, but I don't think I've seen it in this state.

I did grab a bottle of Vizcaya just after Christmas from the recommendations here. I think it's a 'sleeper' rum, doesn't get a lot of press but it's very good.

[DrDubzz]

The Cruzan was 23 bucks, so the same as the Appleton

once I open it, I'll do a side by side and the better of them will become my "old faithful" type as well as they're relatively cheap and readily available

although there is a place in town that carries RZ for it's 44 bucks

[SNKBYT]

too lazy to search, what's a reasonable price for guata. zaya? found a local store w/ a case @ $40 pop.
$28 ea @ TW
Heck, the Trini version is $40 at my local Total Wine. I'd buy 2 or 3 bottles of the Guatemalan at that price.
if you can find it then buy them all

[Wanger]

too lazy to search, what's a reasonable price for guata. zaya?

found a local store w/ a case @ $40 pop.

Buy them all, and I'll take a couple from you!!!!!! Trini Zaya goes for about $45 here in MN.

How did I not find any when we were down there last month. :(

[RevSmoke]

OK, being new to this. Stopped to pick up a 6-pack of some Spotted Cow in Green Bay, and stopped in the rum aisle. They had Appleton (clear & a dark), Oronoco, Mount Gay (a clear & a dark), Kilo Kai (?) and some others that were mass market stuff I see everywhere.

I looked. I wondered. Then I thought I'd ask here.

So, how do those compare to Zaya or Ron Zacapa 23 or Brugal or Black Seal?

[icehog3]

OK, being new to this. Stopped to pick up a 6-pack of some Spotted Cow in Green Bay, and stopped in the rum aisle. They had Appleton (clear & a dark), Oronoco, Mount Gay (a clear & a dark), Kilo Kai (?) and some others that were mass market stuff I see everywhere.

I looked. I wondered. Then I thought I'd ask here.

So, how do those compare to Zaya or Ron Zacapa 23 or Brugal or Black Seal?

Never had Brugal or Black Seal. Todd, but Zacapa 23 and Zaya blow the doors off the Appleton, Oronoco and Mount Gay IMHO.....totally different leagues.

[Mark C]

OK, being new to this. Stopped to pick up a 6-pack of some Spotted Cow in Green Bay, and stopped in the rum aisle. They had Appleton (clear & a dark), Oronoco, Mount Gay (a clear & a dark), Kilo Kai (?) and some others that were mass market stuff I see everywhere.

I looked. I wondered. Then I thought I'd ask here.

So, how do those compare to Zaya or Ron Zacapa 23 or Brugal or Black Seal?

It all depends. I've never had Oronoco, but it generally gets ranked pretty good for a clear rum. Should make a killer mojito. I'm not a fan of the clear Mount Gay, never had clear Appleton. The 'regular' dark rums from both companies are comparable to your average bottle of Bacardi, the V/X maybe a little better, the Mount Gay Eclipse a little less. Both companies make some nice aged rums though.

Mount Gay Extra Old is comparable to Cruzan Single Barrel. I think of it as an 'entry level' aged rum. It's got a nice 'barrel' flavor, toasted caramel, etc. If you like sweet rums like Zaya/Zacapa, Extra Old may not fit your taste. If you prefer a drier style, it's worth keeping around.

Appleton is similar, though they have more of a variety of aged rums. I just finished a bottle of Appleton Extra. It was good, but not as good as Mount Gay Extra Old. The V/X is their 'standard' dark rum, again similar to Bacardi. I haven't tried the other blends, so no comment there.

If you liked the Brugal (was it clear, gold, or anejo?), try the Appleton. If they've got Mount Gay Extra Old, give that one a shot too, but I'd avoid the MG Eclipse. If you want a change of pace/clear rum, pick up the Oronoco.

[RevSmoke]

It all depends. I've never had Oronoco, but it generally gets ranked pretty good for a clear rum. Should make a killer mojito. I'm not a fan of the clear Mount Gay, never had clear Appleton. The 'regular' dark rums from both companies are comparable to your average bottle of Bacardi, the V/X maybe a little better, the Mount Gay Eclipse a little less. Both companies make some nice aged rums though.

Mount Gay Extra Old is comparable to Cruzan Single Barrel. I think of it as an 'entry level' aged rum. It's got a nice 'barrel' flavor, toasted caramel, etc. If you like sweet rums like Zaya/Zacapa, Extra Old may not fit your taste. If you prefer a drier style, it's worth keeping around.

Appleton is similar, though they have more of a variety of aged rums. I just finished a bottle of Appleton Extra. It was good, but not as good as Mount Gay Extra Old. The V/X is their 'standard' dark rum, again similar to Bacardi. I haven't tried the other blends, so no comment there.

If you liked the Brugal (was it clear, gold, or anejo?), try the Appleton. If they've got Mount Gay Extra Old, give that one a shot too, but I'd avoid the MG Eclipse. If you want a change of pace/clear rum, pick up the Oronoco.

I am not looking for rum to mix - sorry, but I'll probably get crucified for saying this - good stuff is wasted on me when mixed.

I guess I am thinking in regard to sipping rums - straight up. I like to sit and sip a shot's worth while enjoying a cigar. I can do a couple beers with a cigar, but about 1.5 ounces of rum is great to sip through a whole cigar. And, according to what you have all said, the clears are more for mixing and the darks, while you can mix them, when they are good, are good for sipping.

[Mark C]

In that case, try the Mount Gay Extra Old, Appleton Extra, or Appleton 21 yr. I think those are best with a small ice cube instead of neat.

Anything less from those brands and you'll be disappointed if you're drinking it straight.

[RevSmoke]

Have any of you had the Cockspur? What are your thoughts? Saw this at a local liquor store.

[RGD.]

Have any of you had the Cockspur? What are your thoughts? Saw this at a local liquor store.

I have the Old Gold and 5 Star versions. I don't use as a sipper. A bit rough and bite - use only as a mixer or jet fuel.

Seriously though - I'd rank it above say standard Bacardi but under Bacardi Select or 8 year.


Ron

[mithrilG60]

My wife gave me a bottle of Goslings Family Reserve Old Rum for Valentine's Day which I'm quite looking forward to trying!

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Right now Im just easing into Rums. Before I just had Capt Morgan/ Baccardi stuff like that and I dont like them at all. My cousin gave me a shot of Sailor Jerry and it was (to me alot better than those two)

What else should I look for. Mind you I dont have a huge selection here in rural NJ (yeah I know its hard to comprehend but its true)

I havent seen Zaya or anything really fancy

[rizzle]

My wife gave me a bottle of Goslings Family Reserve Old Rum for Valentine's Day which I'm quite looking forward to trying!

Pair that with a ginger beer and you'll be talking baseball. :tu

[mithrilG60]

Pair that with a ginger beer and you'll be talking baseball. :tu

Might pick up a bottle of Black Seal to try that with, from what I tasted last night the Old Rum is a sipping rum that I won't be mixing (especially considering how much it costs in BC). I tend to prefer neat spirits to mixed drinks anyways.

http://gallery.mithril.ca/d/43893-1/IMG00041.jpg

:dr

[Mark C]

My cousin gave me a shot of Sailor Jerry and it was (to me alot better than those two)

What else should I look for.

You're on the right track, I think Sailor Jerry is much better than the Captain. There are a few good rums that ought to be easy to find most anywhere. Bacardi 8 isn't bad, and it'll be everywhere. Mount Gay Extra Old and Cruzan Single Barrel are usually easy to find, and I enjoy them both. The sweet rums like Zaya/Zacapa will be harder to find this far north, but you may be able to find a bottle of Pyrat. It's not quite the same as the Z's, but it's more common. Going in another direction, try a bottle of Gosling Black Seal. If you can't find any of those, drive further :)

Might pick up a bottle of Black Seal to try that with, from what I tasted last night the Old Rum is a sipping rum that I won't be mixing

I've beeen eyeing up the Old Family Rum for awhile now, haven't been able to pull the trigger though. Is it comparable to anything else?

[Sauer Grapes]

Drinking some Guat Zaya. Mmmmm.

[mithrilG60]

I've beeen eyeing up the Old Family Rum for awhile now, haven't been able to pull the trigger though. Is it comparable to anything else?

Unfortunately I'm not the best person to ask that question. I'm primarily a scotch guy so my experience with premium rums is quite limited. It's quite different from both Pyrat and the bottle of Renegade (1995 Don Jose Panamanian) that she gave me last Valentines if that helps.

[Wanger]

Drinking some Guat Zaya. Mmmmm.

mmmmmmmmmm indeed!

[boom]

Just picked up a bottle of Zaya today and will have a glass later tonight... Have been looking for Zafra but no luck....

[DrDubzz]

I acquired two more bottles of rum this past weekend, both Tanduay from the Philippines

one is the 5year Rhum, and the other is the 12 year superior. I don't know much about them but some buddies visiting the 'ppines hooked me up

[replicant_argent]

I just saw this http://www.krakenrum.com/ at the store tonight, I may have to give it a whirl for about 20 bucks a bottle.
Sounds like a passable sipper and a mixer, but at 94 proof.. a tich of water might be a good idea.

[DrDubzz]

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