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GrouchoM
05-13-2016, 07:07 PM
La Privadas, wth?

I've heard this brand mentioned a lot, even seen a few being smoked but no way did I ever realize it was that expensive. Somebody please enlighten me to why it cost so much? $18.50 per stick before taxes.

The Poet
05-13-2016, 07:15 PM
Have you considered that perhaps they are NOT selling for almost $20? :r

nutcracker
05-13-2016, 07:22 PM
The Feral flying pig is a great smoke. Comparable with high end cigars.
There is a certain cache in that they are "limited release", yada, yada.

They are worth it as a special occasion smoke. You should try one.....

TNT009
05-13-2016, 07:43 PM
Pigs are going for $30 here in San Diego.

mahtofire14
05-13-2016, 08:48 PM
La Privadas, wth?

I've heard this brand mentioned a lot, even seen a few being smoked but no way did I ever realize it was that expensive. Somebody please enlighten me to why it cost so much? $18.50 per stick before taxes.

With taxes the are over $20 bucks in MN.:gary

T.G
05-13-2016, 10:24 PM
La Privadas, wth?

I've heard this brand mentioned a lot, even seen a few being smoked but no way did I ever realize it was that expensive. Somebody please enlighten me to why it cost so much? $18.50 per stick before taxes.

It's a Texas Thing, dude.

GrouchoM
05-14-2016, 03:26 PM
Ok. I guess I'm past my initial sticker shock regarding Ligas. So, since I opened this Pandora's box. What's the deal with Opus cigars? Everybody talks about them like they're all that, but while I hear about a brother or two that smoking them, they, also seem like a specialty once every blue moon celebratory cigar.

What other ultra premium cigars am I missing that retail for say $16+ can you guys name that are in people regular rotation?

I'm just trying to address my ignorance on ultra premium cigars and to not act so brand new when I eventually see what they sell for.

"It's a Texas thing" I see what you did there, bright boy. Well played, well played.

The Poet
05-14-2016, 03:40 PM
No high-end cigar is in this poor boy's rotation, but if I were to spend that much on a stick I'd go with a VSG.

Gabe215
05-14-2016, 04:48 PM
I enjoy Anejo and Opus but where I get them in Philadelphia they don't gouge the prices like elsewhere and taxes are low. Feral pigs are around $13.50. My go to every day non Cubans are AVO Heritage Toro's!

Wharf Rat
05-14-2016, 05:43 PM
They're on sale on cigarpage today

The Poet
05-14-2016, 05:50 PM
They're on sale on cigarpage today

No they ain't. They be gone. :r

T.G
05-14-2016, 11:06 PM
Ok. I guess I'm past my initial sticker shock regarding Ligas. So, since I opened this Pandora's box. What's the deal with Opus cigars? Everybody talks about them like they're all that, but while I hear about a brother or two that smoking them, they, also seem like a specialty once every blue moon celebratory cigar.

What other ultra premium cigars am I missing that retail for say $16+ can you guys name that are in people regular rotation?

I'm just trying to address my ignorance on ultra premium cigars and to not act so brand new when I eventually see what they sell for.

"It's a Texas thing" I see what you did there, bright boy. Well played, well played.

:tu (funny though, Texas thing prices aren't that bad in the big picture)

The Fuente Opus X is a world class cigar, without question. Do I smoke them? No. Not my profile. But I can respect them.

The Opus X cigar is very limited in manufacture and distribution (they are only released 2-3 times a year), if you can find them at MSRP, they are very reasonable. The secondary and tertiary market drives the prices though the roof. I would think that this has something to do with the hoarding for "special occasions" mentality.

Padron Anniversary cigars are also incredible cigars. Unfortunately, their MSRP is often much higher than Fuente. It's an MSRP I'd pay when I'm looking for that profile, but that's me.

Liga Privada, Tatuaje and My Father upper end cigars, again, great cigars, some I like, some I don't. My not liking a cigar does not diminish it's greatness though.

Another great one is Davidoff. Some of the best cigars I've smoked have been Davidoffs, both CC and NC. But, they are mild.

Padron42
05-15-2016, 12:57 AM
I think Padron Anniversaries and Opus X's are worth the sticker price (not if being gouged though). Ashton VSG as mentioned above as well is great for $12.50 or less. I like the Liga's but they are below the others mentioned on my list, and $20 is way over what I'd spend. I also like Litto Gomez stuff (small batch VI lately well worth the $19 or so as a rare treat). None are in my rotation but I like to have one from this group every few weeks.

Having said all that about the above, there are tons of cigars I have tried in that price range that are just mediocre and overpriced. Many times when I go for one I end up dissapointed wishing I had grabbed a Padron Anni or Opus instead. Worth trying some in that range because some really are that good, but the prices don't always mean greatness.

Porch Dweller
05-17-2016, 08:00 AM
I really enjoy the LP T52, but no way will I pay $20 for one. I can get them online for $11/stick when buying a box. For Opus, one of my B&Ms sells them at a reasonable price, $13-$15 depending on the stick.
On the rare occasion I spend $20 on a smoke it'll usually be for one of two cigars: Padron Anny or Ashton ESG. But I hesitate to even spend that for the ESG (which is a great, great smoke) because Holt's has them as part of some really good samplers most of the time.

T.G
05-17-2016, 08:56 AM
I really enjoy the LP T52, but no way will I pay $20 for one. I can get them online for $11/stick when buying a box. For Opus, one of my B&Ms sells them at a reasonable price, $13-$15 depending on the stick.
On the rare occasion I spend $20 on a smoke it'll usually be for one of two cigars: Padron Anny or Ashton ESG. But I hesitate to even spend that for the ESG (which is a great, great smoke) because Holt's has them as part of some really good samplers most of the time.


James, I agree with you about the pricing in general, but this wasn't about the standard sizes of T52. It was the T52 Feral Flying Pig. $20 is actually a very good B&M retail price for the FFP. IIRC, MSRP is like $18 on that cigar.

(There originally was a photo in the first post that had a picture of the cigar and price tag)

Porch Dweller
05-17-2016, 12:18 PM
Well that makes more sense. I don't think my main B&M even puts their FFPs out for sale. Their allotment is set aside for the premium members, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Brian D.
05-17-2016, 06:10 PM
Relative to most states now, Ohio with their 17% OTP tax, plus about 7% state sales tax, cigars are priced decently here. Cross into Kentucky (less than ten minutes for me) and the figures are like 16% OTP and 6% sales tax.

It's only been in the last eight-ten years Kentucky had an OTP tax at all. People from Jersey and other ripoff states would see humidor prices at The Party Source (northern Ky.) and break out in giddiness.

Brian D.
05-17-2016, 06:17 PM
But in regards to the Ligas, yeah, they fall into the top part of my "splurge" priced cigar choices.

Sooner
05-18-2016, 08:01 AM
Padrons are good very smooth aged cigars. very one dimensional, which isn't something I go for normally. That being said they are good cigars, but I have never bought any. Probably wouldn't. All the ones I have had I am been given as birthday or Christmas gifts.

The Opus X cigars are right up my alley profile wise. I enjoy them a lot, and would buy them for a special occasion. But are they in my rotation? No.

I have had a few liga privadas. They are good, strong Niguraguan cigars, but over hyped in my opinion. Never have I ever been a Liga whore. I enjoy the Undercrowns (especially the shade) and MUWATs much more than the over priced (IMHO) other sticks. And by Liga Whore I mean those guys who collect them and spend all their money chasing them.

There are just to many other cigars out there that I enjoy so much, that I would rather smoke 3-4 of them than just one of the high priced cigars.

Don Fernando
05-22-2016, 12:16 PM
The original release #9 are worth $20, the later releases aren't.

alfredo_buscatti
05-29-2016, 02:10 PM
Cigars are a treat given their price tag, I'm careful about what I buy and only buy from auctions sites, and then only if I can save at least $20.00 less than buying them at discount. Although my choices are limited by what the site offers, I always win on price. I also like to smoke up, which I can afford by smoking less.

I've only smoked one LP #9, I loved it.

Well-blended high-quality tobacco costs money, both in the fields and in the barn. By the time the tobacco reaches the rolling bench, many hands have cared for it. If it has been aged four years, as in the Pardon '64, more hands are involved. Rotating it in the tiers in the aging barn, from the cooler lower shelves at the bottom to the higher hotter shelves at the top for the aging years, is labor, at cost.

The growing and manipulating of tobacco through pressure and heat borders on alchemy, and smokers are indebted to the centuries of skill that have produced what we enjoy today.

dave
05-31-2016, 08:51 AM
Somebody please enlighten me to why it cost so much? $18.50 per stick before taxes.

Only you can decide if a cigar is worth a certain price....to YOU. Try one. As to why it costs so much....well, it isn't a whole lot different than most other consumer commodities. Supply and demand, of course. Also, materials, production and marketing costs. Even (most of) the LP haters will acknowledge that the brand sources superior tobacco and employs very strict production and QC. That costs money. They cost more to make; they are in great demand; and there is a strong market for them at their price point. Cigars tastes are extremely personal. There's LOTS of cigar smokers who would NEVER get their money's worth from an $18 cigar. There's plenty that will.
I will tell you that two of the best cigars I've ever smoked were LP's. I'll also tell you there there were LP's that I enjoyed not one bit. In fact, there's an LPT52 toro in each category!
I also try to keep in mind that price has a fairly strong impact on my impressions...even my enjoyment of a cigar. I hold a $15 cigar to a very different standard than a $3 cigar. I have had crappy $15 cigars that I might have been perfectly happy if I'd paid $5 for them.
Buy one. Don't put it away for a special occasion that may never come. Smoke it. But smoke it when you have a chance to contemplate it a bit....and let us know if YOU thought it was worth it

Twotacotuesday
06-02-2016, 10:15 AM
I wondered the same thing when I started out smoking cheap boxes from a site. I asked myself what the difference could possibly be. Then I smoked my first Padron 3000 maduro amd immediately understood. Just try one.