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Stevez
03-22-2016, 11:30 AM
Received an email today for a "special" offer on these smokes, but I've never heard of them. Anyone have any experience with them? Good? Bad? They sound right up my alley, but wanted to see if any feedback first. Thanks.


Asylum Dragon's Milk (7"x52) - box of 25
MSRP: $425
web price: $382.50
your price: $149.99 W/FREE SHIPPING!

Created by cigar industry legend Christian Eiroa, who is responsible for the '94' rated Camacho brand, Asylum Cigars offer cigar enthusiasts a "refuge from reality, " and their latest concoction is one hearty treat. A collaboration between New Holland Brewing and Asylum Cigars, the creators of the '94' rated Asylum Premium 2012, this limited production cigar is aged in the same barrels used for the Dragon's Milk Bourbon Barrel Stout. Crafted by the Michigan-based New Holland Brewing Company, Dragon's Milk Bourbon Barrel Stout is aged in bourbon barrels resulting in a stout beer with added notes of oak and vanilla. Absorbing all the rich flavors of oak and vanilla from the bourbon barrels as well as the darker notes of espresso and chocolate from the stout, Asylum Dragon's Milk is a medium to full-bodied Nicaraguan puro full of well-aged long-fillers and finished with a hearty Habano wrapper.

AdamJoshua
03-22-2016, 11:38 AM
Right away when I see "275 dollars off" anything … it makes me seriously question the MSRP, sounds like it was never a serious number and only meant as a marketing ploy. They MUST be good, hell that's the same price as a box of Cohiba - Esplendidos!

That being said, nope never heard of them.

Chainsaw13
03-22-2016, 11:53 AM
I saw those at a local B&M last week. Didn't pick any up though, so can't give you my thoughts on the stick. Being a fan of Dragon's Milk beer myself, I am intrigued. And I don't usually do flavored cigars.

The Poet
03-22-2016, 12:16 PM
Sound like Charlie Sheen's go-to stogie.

WhiteMamba
03-22-2016, 12:21 PM
It's a great beer but idk about the cigar.

Dux
03-22-2016, 02:23 PM
Review

http://halfwheel.com/review-asylum-dragons-milk

Snagged text from the review, seems to be a beer infused cigar

"Earlier this year, Tom Lazuka of Asylum Cigars told us about an incredibly interesting project. He would be partner with New Holland Brewing Co. of Holland, Mich. to create a cigar that would be aged in the barrels used to produce the brewery’s Dragon’s Milk.

New Holland Dragon’s Milk is a milk stout aged in bourbon barrels. It comes in at 10-11 percent ABV and is available throughout the year. In the earlier parts of the year, Lazuka informed us that the Asylum Dragon’s Milk cigar would be one of the company’s featured releases at the IPCPR Convention & Trade Show in July, but as it turns out, the barrels didn’t even make it to Nicaragua until last month.

The Asylum Dragon’s Milk cigars were rolled like any other cigar, it’s what happens after the cigars are rolled that is unique. Both Lazuka and his partner in Asylum, Christian Eiroa, told me that the next process—placing the cigars in the barrels—required a learning curve. Eiroa wasn’t sure if the cigars would age for 24 hours, 48 hours or a point in between, but he was quite clear—the barrels were very pungent. In the end the 7 x 52 parejos would age for 48 hours before being banded and shipped to the U.S.

A total of 10 barrels were sent to Nicaragua for the first batch, enough to produce 25,000 total cigars. The Asylum Dragon’s Milk is a regular production release with Lazuka telling me he plans on making a similar-sized batch every quarter unless demand says otherwise. The cigars are packaged in 25-count boxes that resemble milk cartons and are priced at $17 per cigar or $425 per box"

mosesbotbol
03-22-2016, 03:13 PM
interesting idea about aging the barrels. Is that common?

icehog3
03-22-2016, 03:45 PM
Love the beer, one of my favorites. Not a fan of infused or flavored cigars, and certainly not at $17 apiece. It they had one at the local B&M for 6-7 bucks, I'd give it a shot out of curiosity.

stearns
03-22-2016, 03:50 PM
Excellent beer, great for drinking, but I think I'll pass on trying to smoke it

Stevez
03-22-2016, 05:54 PM
Thanks; think I'll pass too. I might try one out of curiosity but not a box. Thanks again.

borndead1
03-22-2016, 06:43 PM
I like cigar flavored cigars.

And beer flavored beer.

Sooner
03-22-2016, 06:47 PM
I like cigar flavored cigars.

And beer flavored beer.

That just makes too much sense!

mosesbotbol
03-23-2016, 05:41 AM
These aren't flavored cigars in the strict sense.

big_jaygee
03-23-2016, 06:43 AM
I had one a couple months after they hit the market.... made it about 2 inches in and tossed it. It wasn't for me, but i do know a hand full of people that enjoy them.

I enjoyed the beer but not the cigar.

Stevez
03-23-2016, 07:22 AM
Thanks for all the feedback; as Moses said, I wasn't thinking these were flavored as I can't stand truly flavored cigars. I was thinking more like the Kentucky fired with a hint of tastes. The Nic puro and habano wrapper was what grabbed me initially to think of these as a possible. unless there were raved reviews, I was going to pass.

T.G
03-23-2016, 09:47 AM
interesting idea about aging the barrels. Is that common?

Not sure who else does it, but Fuente does. The Anejo tobacco is aged in used cognac casks.

http://www.arturofuente.com/Anejo.html

mosesbotbol
03-23-2016, 10:38 AM
Not sure who else does it, but Fuente does. The Anejo tobacco is aged in used cognac casks.

http://www.arturofuente.com/Anejo.html

I know Habanos creates some "brews" which are used in the fermenting/curing process particular to certain marca's, but can't speak on much detail about it.

Perhaps someone else here knows about it.

I don't conider aging a cigar in a wooden barrel to be the same as "flavored cigars" even though it is imparting a flavor to the cigar.

Every step of the curing process is imparting some kind of flavor (or taking it away).

T.G
03-23-2016, 11:07 AM
I know Habanos creates some "brews" which are used in the fermenting/curing process particular to certain marca's, but can't speak on much detail about it.

Perhaps someone else here knows about it.

I don't conider aging a cigar in a wooden barrel to be the same as "flavored cigars" even though it is imparting a flavor to the cigar.

Every step of the curing process is imparting some kind of flavor (or taking it away).

I too have heard of the alleged treatments along with misting or wiping down of the finished cigar with a treatment, but don't know which, if any, marques or cigars from the Habanos portfolio get this treatment or what exactly they are using.

I recall an interview with Rolando Reyes Sr. from like 20 years back where he spoke of learning these treatments in Cuba before he emigrated, and was using these treatments on his tobaccos. He wasn't very specific, he did make a point that it was rum and other herbs/spices and "nothing artificial".

Like you, I don't consider aging in a used barrel a big deal. Yes, it's an infusion of flavors, but nothing like how some cigars are sprayed or dipped with a concentrated (artificial) flavoring agents to make that the predominate flavor.

Such being said, I don't think I would ever smoke this particular cigar. I don't see anything wrong with what was created here, but there is simply nothing about it which appeals to me.

AdamJoshua
03-23-2016, 11:30 AM
Tried one of the DE KFC "cigars", right off the bat it smelled like a house fire caused by an oil tank explosion, things only went down hill when I lit the beast up, I got about 1/2 hit in and was done, this is why firefighters where ventilator masks.

Porch Dweller
03-23-2016, 04:32 PM
Love the beer, one of my favorites. Not a fan of infused or flavored cigars, and certainly not at $17 apiece. It they had one at the local B&M for 6-7 bucks, I'd give it a shot out of curiosity.

This. If I'm in my B&M and looking to spend $17 on a cigar, I'm looking at Padrons, Ashtons, T52s, or Davidoffs. I don't have the cash flow to gamble on something that might get tossed after 1/2".