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Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 03:37 PM
which is better United or American Airlines?

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 03:38 PM
If I am not mistaken they are partners so really its one in the same ...

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 03:39 PM
If I am not mistaken they are partners so really its one in the same ...

didn't know that, I guess it makes the poll useless :r
thanks for the quick info Bro

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 03:40 PM
I could be wrong but I am almost sure of it, So maybe someone who knows more than I will chime in ;)

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 03:42 PM
what if you hop on a plane a fly me where I wanna go :D

Seriously If I researched this before asking I would know. guess I'm being lazy. and the reason for these two they fly where I wannaa go:)

md4958
12-29-2008, 03:52 PM
I HATE American. The few times I have flown them the service has been awful, the flights late, and once my bags were lost. They have the worst record for lost bags and delays from what i have read.


I fly United whenever I can, but sometimes the prices are higher.

Southwest is in my opinion, the BEST as far as customer service and getting in on time.

With your attitude Perry, you would fit right in with American! :r:r:r

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 03:53 PM
I HATE American. The few times I have flown them the service has been awful, the flights late, and once my bags were lost. They have the worst record for lost bags and delays from what i have read.


I fly United whenever I can, but sometimes the prices are higher.

Southwest is in my opinion, the BEST as far as customer service and getting in on time.

With your attitude Perry, you would fit right in with American! :r:r:r

:hm I never lost your bags or delayed you from flying. you must mean the keyboard warrior me.

rack04
12-29-2008, 03:55 PM
I only fly Southwest.

md4958
12-29-2008, 03:55 PM
:hm I never lost your bags or delayed you from flying. you must mean the keyboard warrior me.

of course!

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 03:57 PM
I only fly Southwest.
thanks for not helping :tu
of course!

:r now I'm :lv

Starscream
12-29-2008, 04:19 PM
Only airplanes I've been in in the last 25yrs are my uncle's Cessna and Piper Cub.

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 04:20 PM
what if you hop on a plane a fly me where I wanna go :D

Seriously If I researched this before asking I would know. guess I'm being lazy. and the reason for these two they fly where I wannaa go:)

You buy the plane and I will fly it for ya.

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Only airplanes I've been in in the last 25yrs are my uncle's Cessna and Piper Cub.another helpful person :r

You buy the plane and I will fly it for ya.

Six numbers separates me from having my own fleet lead by you ;)

Starscream
12-29-2008, 04:25 PM
another helpful person :r


I do try! :tu;)

rack04
12-29-2008, 04:27 PM
thanks for not helping :tu

Thanks for posting a poll with two partner airlines. :cb

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:28 PM
Thanks for posting a poll with two partner airlines. :cb

and yet distinctly different reps for service (ask Moe)

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 04:29 PM
another helpful person :r



Six numbers separates me from having my own fleet lead by you ;)

Make it one of these and I will work for free.

http://www.aviationnews.com.au/News_Stories/News_Story_Images/Bell%20ARH%203-4%20Front-lowres.jpg

Starscream
12-29-2008, 04:33 PM
Make it one of these and I will work for free.

http://www.aviationnews.com.au/News_Stories/News_Story_Images/Bell%20ARH%203-4%20Front-lowres.jpg

Awesome! Looks like some AIRWOLF!

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:34 PM
want to do some recon I see

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 04:37 PM
want to do some recon I see

That was supposed to be the helo that was going to replace my current airframe it is Bells ARH the Army canned the program though so now we are still using the interim aircraft that we have been using since 1984. But back to the OPs topic.

I have flown on both and can't really say one or the other has been worse or better from my experiences.

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:40 PM
That was supposed to be the helo that was going to replace my current airframe it is Bells ARH the Army canned the program though so now we are still using the interim aircraft that we have been using since 1984. But back to the OPs topic.

I have flown on both and can't really say one or the other has been worse or better from my experiences.

screw the OP, the helo is more interesting, doesn't surprise me that the military scraps a better design to stay with the old what about flying the AH-1Z?

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 04:42 PM
The Apache replaced the Cobra (AH-1s) for the Army highly doubt the army will ever even consider bringing it back. Right now the talk is that they are going to funnel the money into upgrading our airframe to a new model with new avionics and such Possibly.

http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/oh58d001.jpg

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:45 PM
so much to learn, what is the current frame, Apache?

md4958
12-29-2008, 04:48 PM
Perry, why did you post this poll in the first place? Flying somewhere??

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:49 PM
not right away but in the near future I am, and am looking into every option big and small :)

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 04:49 PM
Right now for the Army our recon/light attack/CAS platform is the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2395605222_f1fc60e526.jpg

This is what I fly

For Deep/Heavy attack it is the AH-64D Apache

http://lh6.ggpht.com/Nitro2k/Rrc5NO8WBLI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uqP77C5HoOI/s800/AH64-apache-03.JPG



Lift Helos are the UH-60 Blackhawk And the CH-47 Chinook for heavy lift

http://www.coriolinus.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/uh-60-01.jpg
UH-60

http://www.cargolaw.com/images/disaster2003.angelfir2.gIf
CH-47

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Right now for the Army our recon/light attack/CAS platform is the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2395605222_f1fc60e526.jpg

This is what I fly

For Deep/Heavy attack it is the AH-64D Apache

http://lh6.ggpht.com/Nitro2k/Rrc5NO8WBLI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uqP77C5HoOI/s800/AH64-apache-03.JPG



Lift Helos are the UH-60 Blackhawk And the CH-47 Chinook for heavy lift

http://www.coriolinus.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/uh-60-01.jpg
UH-60

http://www.cargolaw.com/images/disaster2003.angelfir2.gIf
CH-47
love this stuff, need 20/20 to fly though.

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 04:53 PM
love this stuff, need 20/20 to fly though.


Not to be an Army Warrant all you need to apply is 20/50 correctable to 20/20 then once you finish flight school it can go to 20/100 as long as it will correct to 20/20. And the Army finally approved LASIK for pilots so soon I will not be wearing my glasses anymore.

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 04:55 PM
Not to be an Army Warrant all you need to apply is 20/50 correctable to 20/20 then once you finish flight school it can go to 20/100 as long as it will correct to 20/20. And the Army finally approved LASIK for pilots so soon I will not be wearing my glasses anymore.

chit I wonder what I am, I always thought you needed perfect vision :bh they pay for the LASIK, right?

av8tor152d
12-29-2008, 05:00 PM
chit I wonder what I am, I always thought you needed perfect vision :bh they pay for the LASIK, right?

Yep the Army will pay for the surgery as long as you meet the prerequisites and are willing to wait on the list. Or you can pay for it as long as it is from an approved physician. Long process involved to get on the list as well. Took me about 2 years and still looking at about 6-12 months till I actually get the operation.

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 05:03 PM
Sounds like a PITA but worth it :) much food for thought in here

icehog3
12-29-2008, 05:49 PM
Too funny....I had zero idea that United and American are partner airlines. And I have had nothing but positive experiences on American, and almost unanimously crappy experiences with United, so go figure. :confused:

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 05:58 PM
Both worry me, I hate flying in general and where I wanna go is about 14 hr drive.

Starscream
12-29-2008, 06:03 PM
Both worry me, I hate flying in general and where I wanna go is about 14 hr drive.

Road trip. I would drive. It may be tiring, but the trip is half the fun.

Genetic Defect
12-29-2008, 06:05 PM
Road trip. I would drive. It may be tiring, but the trip is half the fun.

11 -12 hours I've driven before. who knows what I'll do.

floydpink
12-29-2008, 06:09 PM
American flies to all the places I go in the Carribean and South America, so I have been stuck with them for years and their partner TAM Brazilian Airlines.

I have never had any problems with them.

Ace$nyper
12-29-2008, 06:43 PM
I've had problems with both of them and none of the "budget" airlines.

Heck I've only been "happy" with Air Tran.

Cigary
12-30-2008, 06:59 AM
Both worry me, I hate flying in general and where I wanna go is about 14 hr drive.

That's why they make xanax and alcohol for white knucklers,,,,as soon as I pass the TSA strip and full body cavity search section of the airport I run to the nearest bar and start anesthesia procedures immediately. By the time I get into my seat I could be on a bus to Sheboygen for all I care. By the time I land the anesthesia is wearing off and I'm good to go. Flying made easy!!

mrreindeer
12-30-2008, 07:15 AM
Hahhahha, that's awesome Gary.

Fellas, they're not partners....and they both suck...BUT, I'd say American is the lesser of the two evils. I fly American all the time for the miles; try to be loyal so I can rack up a bunch and use them to fly somewhere on Vaca but the freakin' rewards are never available.

This past August on a recent Pittsburgh/NY biz trip on American, I had a total of over 20 hours of delays (including delays on ALL of my flights and 9 hours on one leg, six of which were on the freakin' plane & they lost our bags for a day).

Still, I stick to American in hopes that I'll eventually be able to use the frequent flyer miles. I even rack up AA miles on my charge cards, with hotel stays, anything I can.

I wish Virgin flew more places. I've heard they rock.

macpappy
12-30-2008, 08:54 AM
I like Continental.

icehog3
12-30-2008, 09:50 AM
I like Continental.

Don't even get me started. :mad: :r

IBQTEE1
12-30-2008, 11:13 AM
I don't think that I have had a real problem on either airline. I picked United though because I have more miles with them. :D

68TriShield
12-30-2008, 12:06 PM
Neither.

Genetic Defect
12-30-2008, 02:32 PM
either I fly into a bigger airport or I drive.

Blueface
12-30-2008, 03:34 PM
Perry,
You didn't give me "none of the two" as a choice.:r

Genetic Defect
12-30-2008, 06:24 PM
Perry,
You didn't give me "none of the two" as a choice.:r

:r yeah, no. Looks more like a road trip