In support of COPs

[badbriar]

We all see the media storm from the recent fatalities involving police officers and suspects, casting doubt on the ethics and honesty of the officers involved. This seriously pisses me off. I find it interesting that that same media offers little coverage in instances where officers are injured or worse in the line of duty. Now we have the Million Mom March. It seems that police in this country are once again being vilified. Here is an idea... How about if all police and law enforcement personnel in the U.S. walk off the job for an entire week and see how things fair. No issues with police brutality will occur during that week for sure. Maybe then, some measure of respect will return. I am deeply disturbed that police and emergency responders are held in such high esteem following crises such as 911, but that same support quickly disappears. I am not a COP, but have friends who are and support them unconditionally. My :2

[icehog3]

99.9% of the cops, who are ethical, would never leave their constinuency unprotected for a week, Rob. While most of the incidents the media misconstures disturbs me, I would never turn away from the vast majority of those who support LEOs. I totally understand the way you feel, though. :)

[Steve]

Uh-Rah!

:salute:

[Subvet642]

We all see the media storm from the recent fatalities involving police officers and suspects, casting doubt on the ethics and honesty of the officers involved. This seriously pisses me off. I find it interesting that that same media offers little coverage in instances where officers are injured or worse in the line of duty. Now we have the Million Mom March. It seems that police in this country are once again being vilified. Here is an idea... How about if all police and law enforcement personnel in the U.S. walk off the job for an entire week and see how things fair. No issues with police brutality will occur during that week for sure. Maybe then, some measure of respect will return. I am deeply disturbed that police and emergency responders are held in such high esteem following crises such as 911, but that same support quickly disappears. I am not a COP, but have friends who are and support them unconditionally. My :2

The incidents I've seen on video were egregious; I'm not surprised in the least that people are angry. When a person wields the awesome and terrible power of the State, their conduct must be above reproach, period. If it cannot be, then they should not be trusted with the power of life and death. If every cop walked off the job every cop would be fired. The Police unions would go away. The National Guard would do the job until new cops could be hired and trained. They would only be screwing themselves. The police do a vital and dangerous job, but we shouldn't engage in blind hero worship, either; that is far more dangerous.

[MarkinAZ]

The incidents I've seen on video were egregious; I'm not surprised in the least that people are angry. When a person wields the awesome and terrible power of the State, their conduct must be above reproach, period. If it cannot be, then they should not be trusted with the power of life and death. If every cop walked off the job every cop would be fired. The Police unions would go away. The National Guard would do the job until new cops could be hired and trained. They would only be screwing themselves. The police do a vital and dangerous job, but we shouldn't engage in blind hero worship, either; that is far more dangerous.


Agreed! Not really in to or having some politician find a loop hole or reason to activate Martial Law on the Sovereign states of America.

On the other hand, my Remington P870 is always well oiled and ready to go:D

[dijit]

We all see the media storm from the recent fatalities involving police officers and suspects, casting doubt on the ethics and honesty of the officers involved. This seriously pisses me off. I find it interesting that that same media offers little coverage in instances where officers are injured or worse in the line of duty. Now we have the Million Mom March. It seems that police in this country are once again being vilified. Here is an idea... How about if all police and law enforcement personnel in the U.S. walk off the job for an entire week and see how things fair. No issues with police brutality will occur during that week for sure. Maybe then, some measure of respect will return. I am deeply disturbed that police and emergency responders are held in such high esteem following crises such as 911, but that same support quickly disappears. I am not a COP, but have friends who are and support them unconditionally. My :2

Maybe this will place some perspective on it. I happen to strongly dislike my neighbor. We just dont see eye to eye, ever. She is a LEO and I would hope to God she never decides to walk off her job because of some idiot news report villifying the police. While like I said we dont like each other at all I know she is part of that 99% that do things right.

[CoffeeWaterBeer]

I can tell you this. I live in Baltimore City and the since the rioting occurred a few weeks back, homicide has skyrocketed. My neighborhood has a community Facebook page and every morning there is another post of a stolen car. Now I don't live on the West side, my neighborhood is pretty nice and relatively low in crime normally. What we're seeing is the effect of a trigger happy and lawsuit happy culture.

There was an article in the paper saying how Police are now reluctant to do their jobs. Worded that way is a little biased but I can see the point that was trying to be made. Who would want to go to work as a target, or watch every minute move in fear of lawsuit, scrutiny, or worse? It's the generalizations that need to go. Sure there are bad apples in any demographic but it doesn't reflect the group as a whole.

For what it's worth, I won the April pipe lotto and am taking sticks and tins to my local precinct once they arrive. If you are interested in joining in, please PM me. If this is a rule violation, please let me know and I will edit the post.

[hotreds]

https://michaelosborn.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/police.jpg

[Blueface]

Two more senselessly murdered.
What the heck has our world come to?
Just saw in the news some moron celebrating their murder.
Where is the uproar, the demonstrations for this atrocity?

[AdamJoshua]

Did you see the video of when they were taking one of the perps out of the back of the car he was crying and moaning and swearing he was innocent, I honestly got the feeling he was trying to act like he was injured and just couldn't pull it off.

[Subvet642]

I can tell you this. I live in Baltimore City and the since the rioting occurred a few weeks back, homicide has skyrocketed. My neighborhood has a community Facebook page and every morning there is another post of a stolen car. Now I don't live on the West side, my neighborhood is pretty nice and relatively low in crime normally. What we're seeing is the effect of a trigger happy and lawsuit happy culture.

There was an article in the paper saying how Police are now reluctant to do their jobs. Worded that way is a little biased but I can see the point that was trying to be made. Who would want to go to work as a target, or watch every minute move in fear of lawsuit, scrutiny, or worse? It's the generalizations that need to go. Sure there are bad apples in any demographic but it doesn't reflect the group as a whole.

For what it's worth, I won the April pipe lotto and am taking sticks and tins to my local precinct once they arrive. If you are interested in joining in, please PM me. If this is a rule violation, please let me know and I will edit the post.

I work security at a downtown Boston college under the aegis of the campus police and they were saying the exact same thing.

[Subvet642]

Agreed! Not really in to or having some politician find a loop hole or reason to activate Martial Law on the Sovereign states of America.

This is from Wiki:

In the Boston Police Strike, Boston police officers went on strike on September 9, 1919. They sought recognition for their trade union and improvements in wages and working conditions. Police Commissioner Edwin Upton Curtis denied that police officers had any right to form a union, much less one affiliated with a larger organization like the American Federation of Labor (AFL). Attempts at reconciliation between the Commissioner and the police officers, particularly on the part of Boston's Mayor Andrew James Peters, failed.

During the strike, Boston experienced several nights of lawlessness, although property damage was not extensive. Several thousand members of the State Guard, supported by volunteers, restored order. Press reaction both locally and nationally described the strike as Bolshevik-inspired and directed at the destruction of civil society. The strikers were called "deserters" and "agents of Lenin."

Samuel Gompers of the AFL recognized that the strike was damaging the cause of labor in the public mind and advised the strikers to return to work. Commissioner Curtis refused to re-hire the striking policemen. He was supported by Massachusetts Governor Calvin Coolidge, whose rebuke of Gompers earned him a national reputation. The strike proved a setback for labor unions, and the AFL discontinued its attempts to organize police officers for another two decades. Coolidge won the Republican nomination for vice-president of the U.S. in the 1920 presidential election.

[Blueface]

Looks like that moron Subway worker who glorified the recent murders now has more concerns.........find a new minimum wage job as she just lost her current one. Subway fired her for her statements. You live by Social Media, you die by it.

[68TriShield]

Looks like that moron Subway worker who glorified the recent murders now has more concerns.........find a new minimum wage job as she just lost her current one. Subway fired her for her statements. You live by Social Media, you die by it.

Well Horatio, she may have a problem finding another job. Minimum wage or otherwise. Who in their right mind would hire her?

[Blueface]

Well Horatio, she may have a problem finding another job. Minimum wage or otherwise. Who in their right mind would hire her?

Don't worry Dave, we have all collectively just hired her and new pay will come via staying at home.;)

[CoffeeWaterBeer]

"Ten people were reported shot in Baltimore on Sunday, including three fatal shootings that occurred within a span of about two blocks in Northwest Baltimore."
Baltimore Sun

What kind of message was sent when Police weren't allowed to engage rioters and many people were freed without charges? I'm ready to leave move out of the city. I still love it but it's just a mess and I don't see things improving anytime soon after the current headlines.

[RWhisenand]

I wish the best for you and your family Seth. Sucks my old home town has to go through this.

[RWhisenand]

For what it's worth, I won the April pipe lotto and am taking sticks and tins to my local precinct once they arrive. If you are interested in joining in, please PM me. If this is a rule violation, please let me know and I will edit the post.

Hey Seth I can throw some sticks your way, I'll check and see if I still have your address, if not I'll shoot you a PM.

[CoffeeWaterBeer]

Major Garrity says they would appreciate it Rob. I can't imagine how rough their month has been. I'll be sure to post pics when I get everything together and deliver.

[cjhalbrooks]

Hey you think your a bad as $ put your life on the line. Most Americans will back down from that challenge. They like to complain and whine but they are cowards.

[badbriar]

Hey you think your a bad as $ put your life on the line. Most Americans will back down from that challenge. They like to complain and whine but they are cowards.

Corey - I respectfully disagree. Look at what the American people did in two world wars and three middle-east actions. I do absolutely agree with your statement if you substitute the word "MEDIA" for 'Most Americans'.
Looks like the Media has replaced Lawyers and attorneys as the most reviled working group in the US.

[IBQTEE1]

I know severely police officers and was trying to become one so I support any and all law enforcement that put their lives at risk for me and us everyday.

[Subvet642]

Some years ago, I was working security at a housing development in Boston's Mission Hill. We had a BPD detail officer with us at night. One of them, an old timer, told me how when he was a rookie they would paint their night sticks flat black so that they wouldn't register so well on film at night. That way they could beat hippies over the head with it and it was less likely to show up in the papers. Good cops are worth their weight in gold, bad ones are a toxin to society. BTW, we had to do patrols, unarmed, in places that the cops wouldn't go.

[icehog3]

BTW, we had to do patrols, unarmed, in places that the cops wouldn't go.

Not familiar with any places "cops wouldn't go" in Chicago, Darren, would love to hear more about BPD.

[Subvet642]

Not familiar with any places "cops wouldn't go" in Chicago, Darren, would love to hear more about BPD.

The back alleys of Mission Park, they would not go with us. This was around 1990, about the same time as the Matthew Stewart case.

[icehog3]

The back alleys of Mission Park, they would not go with us. This was around 1990, about the same time as the Matthew Stewart case.

Not familiar with that case (from Detroit then Chicago), but that must have been some crazy circumstance for the cops to be that afraid.

[Subvet642]

Not familiar with that case (from Detroit then Chicago), but that must have been some crazy circumstance for the cops to be that afraid.

Boston was a hot wet mess in those days. Matthew Stewart murdered his pregnant wife in the neighborhood where I was working and blamed it on "a black guy". The police went nuts, jacking-up every black guy they saw; frisking random people on the street. The gangs went hunting for payback. A co-worker of mine was mobbed by the Humboldt Street Gang and stabbed 28 times while walking home from his girlfriend's house in uniform. The papers said that they thought he was a cop. I helped carry his coffin. The next week another co-worker was assaulted in a convenience store while in uniform.

[icehog3]

Wow, that sounds awful.

[Subvet642]

Wow, that sounds awful.

He was a great guy. He had been in the 101st Airborne and was going to marry his girlfriend and go back in the Army. We were supposed to go out for a beer that weekend. His name was Mike Pena.

[icehog3]

I know it's a long time ago, but sorry for your loss, Darren.

[joshnauburn]

This was published in 2008, before all of this other crap. 45 secs in is where I'd like to put half the press and all the whiners... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GNp-ZB9Qmo

[Subvet642]

I know it's a long time ago, but sorry for your loss, Darren.

Even after all this time I still think about him. When he was in the Army he saved his squad. They were in a Huey en-route to a rappel point and one of his cohort was wearing his grenades attached to his web gear by the pin rings. One of them pulled off and went rolling around the deck of the chopper without the pin. He grabbed it and threw it out the door before it exploded.

[68TriShield]

Don't worry Dave, we have all collectively just hired her and new pay will come via staying at home.;)

paid for by us taxpayers :na