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Blup
02-09-2015, 05:28 PM
Made my first purchase with Thompson last month. It was a box at a good price and I'm pleased with the purchase.

However, their catalog came in the mail today. I really don't understand it. I thought CI & JR spent a lot of pages advertising crap cigars, but Thompson takes the cake.

Swishers, Phillies & Backwoods adorn the cover of the catalog. :confused: The catalog cover features gas station cigars? :sh

Inside there are a couple pages of Fuentes and then it goes right into page after page of super cheap junk, most of which I've never heard of: Cosechero, VSOP, Hacienda Rio, Scoundrels, Explorers... then a couple of pages of Hoyo and Davidoff.. then back to Iguanas, DSR Reserves, Don Osvaldo, 829s, Palma Real, Escudo Cubano, Factory Fresh..

The centerfold features Marsh Wheeling, Black & Mild, Panter, Captain Black, White Owl.. followed by Leprechauns, Wildes, Trader Jacks, Al Capone, Flor de Filipinas, Krome, Good Days Rejects... etc. etc. etc.

A few pages of RyJ and La Gloria Cubana, and then the back cover finishes up with more Swishers and some $1 Antonio y Cleopatras.

I don't understand. Why would they put so much effort into marketing cigars via catalog which people can buy at the local liquor store if they're so inclined? Are these super-cheapos even bigger cash cows than Gurkahs?

The wikipedia article on Thompson says, "Thompson Cigar caters to a 69%, more affluent, male demographic.[7]" I'm not entirely sure what the 69% refers to, but it seems that affluent males wouldn't be purchasing White Owls.

Me very confused.

Ogre
02-09-2015, 05:37 PM
It's where they get the biggest profit.

14holestogie
02-09-2015, 06:13 PM
Put the catalog in the humi for a few weeks and it should burn fine. :)

galawdawg45Q
02-09-2015, 06:19 PM
I buy from Thompson, CI,Famous Smoke and JR. I get so many magazines from these places. So I feel you. Great fire starters.

Sweet_Leaf_PDX
02-09-2015, 06:27 PM
I like to use catalogs from Thompson, CI, JR, Famouse, etc... as fire starters. They burn in purdy colors :)

The Poet
02-09-2015, 06:31 PM
All merchants have to cater to the market, and no cigar retailer would survive long selling only Davidoff and Ashton.

You may go to your local package store for microbrews, but they will always sell much more Bud.

Porch Dweller
02-09-2015, 07:14 PM
All merchants have to cater to the market, and no cigar retailer would survive long selling only Davidoff and Ashton.

You may go to your local package store for microbrews, but they will always sell much more Bud.

I was putting together a long response, but this sums it up succinctly.

oldforge
02-11-2015, 03:44 AM
Thompson's caters to the really stupid cigar smoker of all ages, races and income levels.

I suggest you move and change your phone number now. ;-)

sigsauer
02-11-2015, 07:09 AM
junk
pure
junk...

RevSmoke
02-11-2015, 12:45 PM
You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop.

We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets.

Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!!

As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap.

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part?

It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks.

I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha!

Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars.

Why?

So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that.

Hey, live and let live....
Smoke what you like, and enjoy it...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

jsnake
02-11-2015, 02:39 PM
I don't like Thompson's for their shady business practices and yes that is from personal experience. I was a victim of their bait and switch tactics, harassing telemarketing calls, unauthorized credit card charges, and the worst customer service of any business I have ever dealt with.

While it floors me the Rev doesn't like Viaje he makes great points. I have guys at work that smoke Black & Milds and I actually like working with them because I get to smoke my cigars. I could care less what they are smoking because in enables us to have a common connection and we get to smoke together on the job. We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos. I even smoked Swishers back in my first years and thought I was the man.

My local B&M stocks pretty vanilla cigars and very little of the boutique or hard to find cigars that I enjoy. RP, Gurkha, and General Cigar stuff sells and keeps them in business.

Bulldog1862
02-11-2015, 04:18 PM
I have had a few go arounds with them. I have recieved a few good deals from them. That being said and I quote DO Not join the VIP Club or the Cigar of the Month club. That being said I am waiting to get off work and enjoy the Macanudo Cru Royal 5 pack with a large Macanudo ashtray that came in the mail today!!!

Rockestone
02-11-2015, 06:55 PM
You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop.

We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets.

Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!!

As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap.

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part?

It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks.

I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha!

Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars.

Why?

So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that.

Hey, live and let live....
Smoke what you like, and enjoy it...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Well Said!:tu

RevSmoke
02-11-2015, 08:01 PM
I don't like Thompson's for their shady business practices and yes that is from personal experience. I was a victim of their bait and switch tactics, harassing telemarketing calls, unauthorized credit card charges, and the worst customer service of any business I have ever dealt with.

Now that is a good reason to have issue with Thompson's.

While it floors me the Rev doesn't like Viaje he makes great points. I have guys at work that smoke Black & Milds and I actually like working with them because I get to smoke my cigars. I could care less what they are smoking because in enables us to have a common connection and we get to smoke together on the job. We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos. I even smoked Swishers back in my first years and thought I was the man.

Hahaha! OK, I have had a couple Viaje that I liked, but not many. I do not like their regular lines of smokes, how about that? And the rest makes my point exactly.

My local B&M stocks pretty vanilla cigars and very little of the boutique or hard to find cigars that I enjoy. RP, Gurkha, and General Cigar stuff sells and keeps them in business.

Punch Rothschilds are wonderful smokes, almost identical to what they were like in the 1980s and '90s. Bread and butter to lots of stores.

MarkinCA
02-11-2015, 08:37 PM
Feeling better Todd?:D;)

"Note to self: email Thompson tomorrow morning and ask them to remove Todd from their catalog list. This will help reduce his blood pressure..."

jhedrick83
02-11-2015, 09:43 PM
We were all new once and I think everyone I know once loved Macanudos.


My first ever Cigar was as a senior in high school, there was a coffee shop in town you could smoke in and I would have Macanudo Tubos out of boredom and the fact that I thought it made my 18 year old self look badass. 14 years later cigars are one of the few things in life that help me relax, reflect and recharge. I have no real desire to smoke one now but God bless Macanudo Tubos...

gravel
02-11-2015, 10:26 PM
Whoa Rev! Carter Hall is solid and not necessarily cheap. I would have used Smokers Pride.

Other than that, great post.

Subvet642
02-12-2015, 12:43 AM
My first ever Cigar was as a senior in high school, there was a coffee shop in town you could smoke in and I would have Macanudo Tubos out of boredom and the fact that I thought it made my 18 year old self look badass. 14 years later cigars are one of the few things in life that help me relax, reflect and recharge. I have no real desire to smoke one now but God bless Macanudo Tubos...

I still will not turn my nose up at a Macanudo Tubo. I snork the hell out of them; not very interesting but they'll scratch an itch.

Weelok
02-12-2015, 01:38 AM
My first humidor and cigar sampler came from Thompsons and that was my only purchase from them as smoking through those 20 cigars cured me of wanting any more Thompson house brand cigars. That being said, .... Well, I liked the box humidor. My second big purchase was from Cigar Intl and a bundle of Double Happiness cigars. I kind of wish I had Swisher Sweets or a White Owl story in place of those Double Happiness cigars but I was happy when they were all gone and I was happy they were inexpensive so double happy!

RevSmoke
02-12-2015, 09:17 AM
Feeling better Todd?:D;)

"Note to self: email Thompson tomorrow morning and ask them to remove Todd from their catalog list. This will help reduce his blood pressure..."

Nothing wrong with my blood pressure. I did not rant, calmly explained a viewpoint. Actually, trying to callm another down. I just extremely verbose at times. I should spell check things though before posting. A grammar nazi or spelling nazi would have had a blast with that post. (doggone auto correct on the Ipad is my only excuse)

Whoa Rev! Carter Hall is solid and not necessarily cheap. I would have used Smokers Pride.

Other than that, great post.

A great point to prove my point. I place CH on the same level as Smokers Pride. How could I do that? My palate detests burleys!

Now, you love Carter Hall, and I respect that! Enjoy it my man! In fact, if you enjoy it near me, I will enjoy the room note. Just don't want it in my mourth. I am also sure that there is some blend out there that I enjoy which you would probably snigger at.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Slow Triathlete
02-12-2015, 03:13 PM
When I first started smoking cigars many years ago I thought that Thompson's was a mecca.

Then I ordered a few of their house brands or off brand cigars one time and I learned that they make great compost.

ApexAZ
02-12-2015, 03:22 PM
You know, we could talk about the crappy cigars in Thompson's catalog. We could talk about the crappy cigars sold at the local gas station, book store, and head shop.

We could lambast the "idiots" out there smoking dog rockets.

Why would we? Someone is smoking cigars! You and I may not like them, might even think they are crap! THAT IS OUR OPINION!!!

As part of the Embarrass Fire Department, when we have our regular meetings, there is a lunch served following. There is always beer available. OK, they call the available swill, and it is labeled, beer (ACCORDING TO MY OPINION). My thoughts about what constitutes drinkable beer puts me in the minority at fire meetings. And, when it is my turn to serve, and I bring some decent beer along, I am told how my beer tastes like crap.

Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.

I may scratch my head over every single one of these (and I could probably come up with a gadzillion more) examples, but that's the way it is. I/We could write it off to poor taste, but wouldn't that be pretty arrogant on my/our part?

It is different tastes, different strokes for different folks.

I am not a big Viaje fan. (Ducking and running before the fallout hits) Does that make me an idiot in someone's eyes? I hope not! Does it mean I have different tastes than someone else? You betcha!

Personally, I am grateful there are gadzillions of people out there who are buying Swishers, Don Scoundrels, AyC, White Owls, Gurkhas, Viajes, and all sorts of "crap" cigars.

Why?

So that they are not buys gadzillions of the cigars I like, making them hard to find and driving up the prices to astronomical proportions. Hey, I already lived through the boom of the 1990s when that happened - do not want to repeat that.

Hey, live and let live....
Smoke what you like, and enjoy it...

Peace of the Lord be with you.

I love you Todd. In a manly, heartfelt sort of way. You're a stand up dude. :banger

Weelok
02-12-2015, 06:56 PM
When I first started smoking cigars many years ago I thought that Thompson's was a mecca.

Then I ordered a few of their house brands or off brand cigars one time and I learned that they make great compost.

LOL that's my experience! I would love to say I have risen to a cigar snob but every time I light my cogar with a Creme Brle torch and see scowls of displeasure I realize I am still a proud redneck. Thomson Hpuse Brand cigars NEED to be smoked to appreciate what we went through.

Subvet642
02-12-2015, 10:27 PM
LOL that's my experience! I would love to say I have risen to a cigar snob but every time I light my cigar with a Creme Brle torch and see scowls of displeasure I realize I am still a proud redneck. Thomson House Brand cigars NEED to be smoked to appreciate what we went through.

I never heard of a redneck with one of those. :confused: Unless, of course, you mean a Bic lighter with a can of hairspray.

Don Fernando
02-13-2015, 02:13 AM
Bud Light outsells Ale Asylum Ambergeddon a gadzillion to one.
Swishers outsell Arturo Fuente Heminway Short Stories a gadzillion to one.
Carter Hall outsells McClelland Beacon Extra (pipe tobaccos) a gadzillion to one.
American Cheese (processed garbage) outsells real cheese a gadzillion to one.



and its not only with cigars and food. Just turn on the TV, Reality TV shows draw bigger crowds than good journalism. Listen to the radio, crappy pop music sells more than good quality music made by real musicians. The taste of the majority is crap! I'm glad i'm not part of the majority when it comes to food, cigars, tv or music.

Dave128
02-13-2015, 08:28 AM
My first, and only, purchase from Thompson Cigars was a 10 pack sampler that came with a small 10 count humidor. I saw the add in the back of a Field & Stream and took the bait.

If not for that add and purchase, I wouldn't have found such a draw to the cigar world or such a great place like Cigar Asylum.

Even though they are not my go-to retailer, I can honestly thank them for what they have given me.

hotreds
02-13-2015, 10:55 AM
Smoke what you like; like what you smoke!

Bulldog1862
02-13-2015, 12:57 PM
When I finally got home I had the same catalog in the mail, I thought the cover sheet look like an advertisement in a cheap liquor store window. I also had my package from Thompson cigars with my Macanudo five pack and ashtray. The catalog we're talking about was from January the catalog that I received with my package was from February:banger

RobR1205
02-13-2015, 01:10 PM
Gotta start somewhere...the mainstream retailers like CI and Thompson's was where I got my start....my first purchase was a 15 count Nica Libre flight sampler, and 20 count sampler with Gurkhas, and a modest 50 count desktop. If not for them, I would have never gotten as involved with the hobby as I am now!

RevSmoke
02-13-2015, 05:46 PM
I love it! You can add to my post, that if it were not for Thompson, and/or drugstore cigars, many would not be here.

jsnake
02-13-2015, 10:56 PM
I love it! You can add to my post, that if it were not for Thompson, and/or drugstore cigars, many would not be here.My first humidor and "real" cigar order was from Thompson's and it spiraled out of control since. I didn't get the house brands. It was a nice sampler with CAO Brazilia, Indian Tabac, Macanudo and some others. By "real" cigars I mean ones not purchased from a gas station or liquor store. It was the stepping stone for me so in a way I have to give them some credit.

omahaorange
03-19-2015, 07:57 PM
I actually placed two orders with Thompson's, the only problem being (so far) was the first order took four days to be shipped out. They came recommended by my wife's coworkers; they order the boss a box every Christmas and one's husband orders regularly from them. The second order I placed actually shipped out the next day. The bundle they included with the humidor package aren't really that bad. I am exploring other vendors as my research deepens.

With that said, the original post was in regards to the content of the catalog. I too, noticed the dearth of cheaper sticks. But how many of you actually buy from the paper catalog, and how many of us make our purchases on line? While the catalog can only show so much content before the mailman starts to complain, the website has a much greater and diverse selection. The catalog (any catalog like this) is designed to whet your appetite, not fill fill you up. Take it for what it is.

borndead1
03-30-2015, 11:54 PM
Thompson's did open the door for me. I still have my glass top 100-count barrel humidor and after 10 years it's a fantastic box. Even the analog hygrometer is still dead accurate.

Now...the 100 "premium, handmade cigars" that came with the humidor...blech!

Weelok
03-31-2015, 12:13 AM
I never heard of a redneck with one of those. :confused: Unless, of course, you mean a Bic lighter with a can of hairspray.

Haha, well BIC lighters are my friend when I travel because they let me carry them on planes and are cheap to buy wherever but hair spray torches I am too cowardly to attempt -(P

thecatch83
04-06-2015, 11:07 AM
Put the catalog in the humi for a few weeks and it should burn fine. :)

My thoughts exactly.....but they do have Tat monster's for $85 bones :tu

http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product/TATUAJE-MONSTERS-SAMPLER/91207.uts?subCategoryId=11720&categoryId=10130&parentCategoryId=9833

RevSmoke
07-22-2015, 11:39 AM
My youngest boy graduated from HS this year and when he turned 18 had his first cigar with 'pops'. Well, reading through one of our fishing magazines last night he finds this add for 20 cigars and a humidor from Thompson - $39 for the whole smear. (I remembered this thread...)

When I get home, he says, "Hey dad, look what I found! I'm thinking of ordering this. It would give me a small humidor for my dorm room, and a few cigars at a great price."

I chuckled and said, "It is not worth being on their mailing list for the next millennium. If you want a humidor, we'll find one for you. If you need cigars, let me know. We'll fill it before you leave for college, and when you need more, let me know."

Nathan is a member of CA, but he does not come here much. Tim has not joined yet, and I am not sure that he will. I will have to talk him into it.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Todd

pektel
07-22-2015, 03:20 PM
My youngest boy graduated from HS this year and when he turned 18 had his first cigar with 'pops'. Well, reading through one of our fishing magazines last night he finds this add for 20 cigars and a humidor from Thompson - $39 for the whole smear. (I remembered this thread...)

When I get home, he says, "Hey dad, look what I found! I'm thinking of ordering this. It would give me a small humidor for my dorm room, and a few cigars at a great price."

I chuckled and said, "It is not worth being on their mailing list for the next millennium. If you want a humidor, we'll find one for you. If you need cigars, let me know. We'll fill it before you leave for college, and when you need more, let me know."

Nathan is a member of CA, but he does not come here much. Tim has not joined yet, and I am not sure that he will. I will have to talk him into it.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

Todd

I've never ordered from Thompson, but evidently I did from one of their affiliates. I get their catalogs for some odd reason, and I don't even break the seal. Into the trash they go.

Somehow they got BOTH my home and work addresses, so I get 2 every time they mail them out.

timj219
07-24-2015, 07:29 PM
What bothers me most about Thompsons (and I've never seen it with CI which is the othr catalog I get) is that they advertise filtered "cigars" in cartons of 200. We all want lawmakers to exempt cigars from the taxes and restrictions placed on cigarettes and these jokers are probably exhibit A for the people who oppose those efforts.

omahaorange
07-29-2015, 10:28 AM
What bothers me most about Thompsons (and I've never seen it with CI which is the othr catalog I get) is that they advertise filtered "cigars" in cartons of 200. We all want lawmakers to exempt cigars from the taxes and restrictions placed on cigarettes and these jokers are probably exhibit A for the people who oppose those efforts.

Don't blame Thompson's for this. You can buy these at any gas station or convenience store. JR also sells them. Famous as well. While I can agree they aren't the best place, Thompson's hasn't treated me wrong. Like I said before, my biggest gripe was slow shipping. Had only one issue with them, and they did make it right. Some people just like to pick on the big boys. :)

hotreds
07-29-2015, 11:21 AM
Smoke what you like; like what you smoke! That said, Thompson has a very bad reputation for horrible sales/customer service tactics and poor quality cigars. With so many other options available, why risk buying from Thompson? (Unless you really LOVE Tuskers!)

NCRadioMan
07-31-2015, 11:34 AM
Somehow they got BOTH my home and work addresses, so I get 2 every time they mail them out.

They buy mailing list databases from other companies. I believe they also sell theirs. Companies that say they don't disclose any info, yet, they will sell the info to anyone.

If you ever sign up for anything, read the fine print.