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gettysburgfreak
12-23-2008, 09:58 PM
Well baseball has officially hit rock bottom. The Yankees just paid $180 million dollars for Mark Texiera. I am getting sick and tired of the Yankees throwing all this money at guys when the suddenly are struggling to compete. How about doing what just about every other team does and develop your farm system? The money the spent on this off season would probably buy a small country. I am not jealous over this, as I think hes not worth the money or number of years, just agrivated at how badly baseball economics has gotten. Rant over. Go Red Sox

white_s2k
12-23-2008, 10:13 PM
You know what'll be hilarious? When they end up not making the playoffs again this year :D

Oh wait.. :lv

pnoon
12-23-2008, 11:19 PM
The Yankees aren't the only team to ruin baseball economics. The Red Sox and every other big market team are just as culpable. The Yankees get more attention because they spend the most money. Why? Because they have the most money. Like any business (which is what professional sports have become), The New York Yankees are investing in what they believe will win them a championship. Will it? Probably not. But everybody bags on the Yankees simply because they have the most money to spend.

Every other team develops their farm system? What a load of bull crap.

Ace$nyper
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
The Yankees aren't the only team to ruin baseball economics. The Red Sox and every other big market team are just as culpable. The Yankees get more attention because they spend the most money. Why? Because they have the most money. Like any business (which is what professional sports have become), The New York Yankees are investing in what they believe will win them a championship. Will it? Probably not. But everybody bags on the Yankees simply because they have the most money to spend.

Every other team develops their farm system? What a load of bull crap.
Well said.
:usa

zmancbr
12-23-2008, 11:55 PM
You know what'll be hilarious? When they end up not making the playoffs again this year :D

Oh wait.. :lv

I can't wait... that was the single best part of the whole season. :r


Of course any year the Red sox don't make it is just as good! :D

Ragin Cajun
12-24-2008, 01:23 AM
If ya got the money and ya wanna spend it, then why the he11 not?

gettysburgfreak
12-24-2008, 08:17 AM
The Yankees aren't the only team to ruin baseball economics. The Red Sox and every other big market team are just as culpable. The Yankees get more attention because they spend the most money. Why? Because they have the most money. Like any business (which is what professional sports have become), The New York Yankees are investing in what they believe will win them a championship. Will it? Probably not. But everybody bags on the Yankees simply because they have the most money to spend.

Every other team develops their farm system? What a load of bull crap.


Granted the Red Sox spend a lot of money, but they also mix that in with home grown talent such as Youkilis or Dustin Pedroia or Justin Masterson. Out of the Yankees starting lineup how many of those guys made it all the way through their minor league system? Since when do you see teams like the Kansas City Royals or Oakland Athletics buying free agents at will?

VirtualSmitty
12-24-2008, 09:09 AM
Granted the Red Sox spend a lot of money, but they also mix that in with home grown talent such as Youkilis or Dustin Pedroia or Justin Masterson. Out of the Yankees starting lineup how many of those guys made it all the way through their minor league system? Since when do you see teams like the Kansas City Royals or Oakland Athletics buying free agents at will?

You don't know what your talking about. On the current Yankees roster their are plenty of home grown Yankees. Wang, Chamberlain, Coke, Hughes, Matsui, Kennedy, Posada, Veras, Robertson, Ramirez, Marte (originally drafted by the Yanks), Jeter, Cano, Rivera, Christian, Cabrera, and Gardner.

As I explained to King James in the Sabathia thread, the Yankees have been tapping their minor league system much more than they did during the dynasty years. And on top of that, they are still a few million dollars under last years payroll despite the big spending because of all the big contracts that expired over the off season. They are actually paying Tex a million dollars less a year than they did for Giambi lol.

They needed Tex badly (as did the Sox) as their run production was only tenth in the AL last year. Tex was a perfect fit, better defense than Giambi (2 gold gloves so far), switch hitter with power, the real deal. The sheer hatred and disappointment coming from Red Sox nation is wonderful right now, John Henry ain't the most popular owner right now lol.

The Yanks were in a position where they had to go nuts this off season. They have to open the new stadium with a bang!

gettysburgfreak
12-24-2008, 10:05 AM
You don't know what your talking about. On the current Yankees roster their are plenty of home grown Yankees. Wang, Chamberlain, Coke, Hughes, Matsui, Kennedy, Posada, Veras, Robertson, Ramirez, Marte (originally drafted by the Yanks), Jeter, Cano, Rivera, Christian, Cabrera, and Gardner.

As I explained to King James in the Sabathia thread, the Yankees have been tapping their minor league system much more than they did during the dynasty years. And on top of that, they are still a few million dollars under last years payroll despite the big spending because of all the big contracts that expired over the off season. They are actually paying Tex a million dollars less a year than they did for Giambi lol.

They needed Tex badly (as did the Sox) as their run production was only tenth in the AL last year. Tex was a perfect fit, better defense than Giambi (2 gold gloves so far), switch hitter with power, the real deal. The sheer hatred and disappointment coming from Red Sox nation is wonderful right now, John Henry ain't the most popular owner right now lol.

The Yanks were in a position where they had to go nuts this off season. They have to open the new stadium with a bang!



I don't know the yankees roster thats why I asked how many of them made it all the way through the minors to the show. I still think they over paid for him, granted he is good but 180 million, come on. His price got driven up by the offers from Washington, Baltimore, and Boston. He held out until the Yankees opened their wallet like they always do and gave him exactly what he wanted. And no the Sox did not need him badly, Youkillis plays a hell of a first base, the guys a gamer. What Boston needs is a new catcher and to solidify their middle relief. Boston fans are angry right now because John Henry actually showed restraint in over paying for a player who happened to go to the Yankees. If he went to Washington Boston fans wouldnt give a ****

Drat
12-24-2008, 10:12 AM
My Halos are in a bad spot now trying to fill that hole at first...

pnoon
12-24-2008, 10:15 AM
Boston fans are angry right now because John Henry actually showed restraint in over paying for a player who happened to go to the Yankees. If he went to Washington Boston fans wouldnt give a ****
Hell. 90% of professional athletes are overpaid.
Boston fans just like to blame the Yankees for everything. Your last statement is proof of that.

gettysburgfreak
12-24-2008, 10:19 AM
Hell. 90% of professional athletes are overpaid.
Boston fans just like to blame the Yankees for everything. Your last statement is proof of that.


Not going to deny that one. I dislike the yankees, their front office, and their fans. Some profession athletes actually deserve the money they make. Tiger Woods, Roger Fedderer, Michael Jordan, undeniably the best in their sports. Mark Texiera, not in that category

pnoon
12-24-2008, 10:22 AM
Not going to deny that one. I dislike the yankees, their front office, and their fans.

Nice of you to be hatin' on some of us here at CA. :rolleyes:

Buckeye Jack
12-24-2008, 11:25 AM
What a lot of people don't realize as well is that they are more then likely going to have less of a payroll this year then last. They freed up almost 90 million a year this year. These moves were all justified.

jbonnefsc
12-24-2008, 11:40 AM
Religion, Politics, Sex, and Baseball. The topics i won't touch.

VirtualSmitty
12-24-2008, 01:13 PM
Not going to deny that one. I dislike the yankees, their front office, and their fans.

Typical low class Sox fan. I hate the Blow Sox with a passion, but I have made many friends here on the boards who are Sox fans, have friends outside the boards that are Sox fans and I can say easily I don't hate the fans. That's just a dumb thing to say.

I know it's hard though. It's tough not to be jealous considering the Yanks are the most popular team in sports, most successful team in sports, wealthiest team team in sports, and just happen to have owners who care more about their fans, their team, and winning, more than any other team in sports.

:salute:

gettysburgfreak
12-24-2008, 10:04 PM
Typical low class Sox fan. I hate the Blow Sox with a passion, but I have made many friends here on the boards who are Sox fans, have friends outside the boards that are Sox fans and I can say easily I don't hate the fans. That's just a dumb thing to say.

I know it's hard though. It's tough not to be jealous considering the Yanks are the most popular team in sports, most successful team in sports, wealthiest team team in sports, and just happen to have owners who care more about their fans, their team, and winning, more than any other team in sports.

:salute:


To each his own slick, Merry Christmas

spectrrr
12-24-2008, 10:17 PM
Well baseball has officially hit rock bottom. The Yankees just paid $180 million dollars for Mark Texiera. I am getting sick and tired of the Yankees throwing all this money at guys when the suddenly are struggling to compete. How about doing what just about every other team does and develop your farm system? The money the spent on this off season would probably buy a small country. I am not jealous over this, as I think hes not worth the money or number of years, just agrivated at how badly baseball economics has gotten. Rant over. Go Red Sox

:D

Of course any year the Red sox don't make it is just as good! :D

:(

Religion, Politics, Sex, and Baseball. The topics i won't touch.

:r


(yep, this post was all smilies... they said everything I wanted to say :tu)

floydpink
12-26-2008, 06:24 AM
Not going to deny that one. I dislike the yankees, their front office, and their fans. Some profession athletes actually deserve the money they make. Tiger Woods, Roger Fedderer, Michael Jordan, undeniably the best in their sports. Mark Texiera, not in that category


And I hate all NE fans from the Red Sox to the Patriots.

Boston couldn't close the deal and needed Tex more than the Yankees. For 1.5 million extra a year, they could have closed the deal, but the Yankees swwoped in and took him away and saved a million a year by replacing Giambi. Seems like a bargain to me.

The Yankees spent some bad money on aging players the last 7 years and have paid for it. They are understandably hated because of their deep pockets and desire to win at any cost.

Don't write off Manny in pinstripes next year, although we don't need a loafer. It would be worth it to further add to Boston's upcoming pain.

Ortiz is getting old and so is all the whining from Boston fans. This one should haunt Boston for a while and will be almost as fun to watch as the Pat's collapse.

Bet you coulda heard a pin drop on the streets of Boston when they found out the Yankees did it again.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/rastapete69/brady-1.jpg

floydpink
12-26-2008, 06:41 AM
A preview of late September and you really should be back in school...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/rastapete69/bostonfan.jpg

theycallmedan'lboone
12-26-2008, 09:31 AM
you know I used to like Mark Tex... but I can't say as that I blame him...

Starscream
12-26-2008, 04:50 PM
If only the Reds had half of the money that both Boston and New York spend each year... we'd probably still suck.:)

Mr. Ed
12-26-2008, 04:53 PM
Two words: Salary Cap
Three more words: Never gonna happen :ss

ScottieM
12-26-2008, 08:38 PM
Cool thread!

Go Yanks!

Happy New Year!

Yazzie
12-26-2008, 09:40 PM
Yankees are Pigs. CC is going to suck A$$, and Burnett's arm will be hanging by the time June rolls around.....

MikeyC
12-26-2008, 09:42 PM
Yankees are Pigs. CC is going to suck A$$, and Burnett's arm will be hanging by the time June rolls around.....

:tpd:

I see a repeat of the Carl Pavano fiasco coming. :r

Yazzie
12-26-2008, 09:46 PM
I can't believe they spend almost 1/2 a billion on 3 guys and still you NY taxpayers are being asked for more to finance the stadium.....Unreal, the cubans I bought have started to get Plume faster than you have made the playoffs and now you go into full panic mode because the much better run team (That would be the Red Sox :ss) has won 2 world series while all you did was ship a great manager to the West Coast.....

No worries, if $423 Mill doesn't do it this year spend a Billion next year and wait for the bailout.......

Yazzie
12-26-2008, 09:55 PM
and continuing from my last post........

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/yazziety/YankeesSuck6.jpg

Genetic Defect
12-26-2008, 10:03 PM
Socks keep my feet warm :)

spectrrr
12-26-2008, 10:42 PM
ahhh, soundin more like home by the second :D

Genetic Defect
12-26-2008, 10:44 PM
ahhh, soundin more like home by the second :D

Warm feet?

spectrrr
12-26-2008, 10:55 PM
Warm feet?

toasty red, toasty warm :ss

floydpink
12-27-2008, 07:56 AM
Too early to get worked up about baseball. Your Cubans will have grandkids that have plume before the suck ass Red Sox EVER win as many World Series as the Yankees. The glory of the last 2 will eventually fade and you will be back to your 80 year misery like your forefathers.

In the meantime, do you have a team in the NFL still? Wish the Giants were the ones who broke Brady's knees...

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/rastapete69/Brady.jpg

AdamC
12-27-2008, 08:02 AM
and continuing from my last post........

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/yazziety/YankeesSuck6.jpg

:tpd:

floydpink
12-27-2008, 08:08 AM
anyone up for a wager that the Yankees finish better than the Red Sox?

I'm thinking a box of Cohibas.......

MikeyC
12-27-2008, 08:10 AM
Too early to get worked up about baseball. Your Cubans will have grandkids that have plume before the suck ass Red Sox EVER win as many World Series as the Yankees. The glory of the last 2 will eventually fade and you will be back to your 80 year misery like your forefathers.

In the meantime, do you have a team in the NFL still? Wish the Giants were the ones who broke Brady's knees...
The Yankees are well on their way to an 80 year championship misery. When was the last time they won the series again? Please remind me. :D Blah, blah Yanks have 26 championships . . . blah blah. Stop living in the past Yankees fans!

Also, the fact that the Patriots are in playoff contention shows what a GREAT team they are. There are only 2 or 3 other teams in the NFL that have fielded more starters this year than the Pats. They've lost their entire starting offensive backfield and have started games with less than half of their starters on defense plus several backups on offense and defense have been lost. To have overcome that many injuries shows what a superior job the Pats have done this year.

AdamC
12-27-2008, 08:16 AM
Too early to get worked up about baseball. Your Cubans will have grandkids that have plume before the suck ass Red Sox EVER win as many World Series as the Yankees. The glory of the last 2 will eventually fade and you will be back to your 80 year misery like your forefathers.

In the meantime, do you have a team in the NFL still? Wish the Giants were the ones who broke Brady's knees...

:r:r:r good one...really thought you were serious for a second.

floydpink
12-27-2008, 08:16 AM
remind you?
The Red Sox won the World Series in 1903, 1912, 1915, 1916, 1918, 2004, and 2007

You still have 3 fingers left to count 3 more if you ever live to see it.

How bout backing up your statements with a wager? You can pick the marca.

Yazzie
12-27-2008, 08:20 AM
How bout backing up your statements with a wager? You can pick the marca.

Spoken like a true Yankees fan.....Just like that Blowhard Hank Steinbrenner who has made a $423 million wager and has tried to buy himself a WS :ss

floydpink
12-27-2008, 08:25 AM
I'm trying to buy you some cigars then Yazzie. Do we have a deal? I'm calling you out!

AdamC
12-27-2008, 08:30 AM
This little argument wouldn't even be worth a box of Cohiba.

Yazzie
12-27-2008, 08:31 AM
I'm trying to buy you some cigars then Yazzie. Do we have a deal? I'm calling you out!

You can call me out till Hell freezes over (or the Yankees win the WS, whatever a really looong time). Your just going to have to be content with the bashing. Unlike Hank, you cannot buy my wager :D

floydpink
12-27-2008, 08:33 AM
You can call me out till Hell freezes over (or the Yankees win the WS, whatever a really looong time). Your just going to have to be content with the bashing. Unlike Hank, you cannot buy my wager :D

That's what I thought.

AdamC
12-27-2008, 08:39 AM
That's what I thought.

I think you only thought that because no one is dumb enough to make such a stupid bet.
It doesn't matter. I've played baseball and football my entire life, I've never made betes. That doesn't mean I know nothing of the 2 sports. Not wanting to bet doesn't say anything.

floydpink
12-27-2008, 08:42 AM
Only stupid if you lose. Talk is cheap, especially behind a keyboard.

Perhaps it's stupid because it can cost you financially. I have another idea;

Loser shaves his head and posts a pic of themselves in a skirt and the opposing team's jersey being worn in their city's downtown area?

pnoon
12-27-2008, 09:08 AM
A message to all who post here:

Remember to keep it civil.

VirtualSmitty
12-27-2008, 09:25 AM
A message to all who post here:

Remember to keep it civil.

Civil is my middle name Peter :tu:ss


GO YANKEES!

ahc4353
12-27-2008, 09:45 AM
Civil is my middle name Peter :tu:ss


GO YANKEES!


:hm I thought it was Tact. :D

MikeyC
12-27-2008, 10:26 AM
Well, I look forward to another great year of Sox vs. Spankees. It would also be nice if the Giants and Pats showed up in the Superbowl again for a rematch (it could happen). Then of course we'll see the Celtics vs. the Knicks in the NBA championship . . . or maybe not. :r

floydpink
12-27-2008, 11:21 AM
and it would be icing on the cake if Giselle Bunchen dumped that pansy and came by my house

Yazzie
12-27-2008, 11:51 AM
and it would be icing on the cake if Giselle Bunchen dumped that pansy and came by my house

You mean this guy? :ss Enjoy

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/yazziety/Brady.jpg

spectrrr
12-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Only stupid if you lose. Talk is cheap, especially behind a keyboard.

Perhaps it's stupid because it can cost you financially. I have another idea;

Loser shaves his head and posts a pic of themselves in a skirt and the opposing team's jersey being worn in their city's downtown area?

:hm now ya got something there ;)

spectrrr
12-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Civil is my middle name Peter :tu:ss


GO RED SOX!

Fixed it for ya. Wasn't very civil before ;)

Yazzie
12-27-2008, 01:34 PM
Fixed it for ya. Wasn't very civil before ;)

Thanks for cleaning up the mess Francis :r:r:r

jbonnefsc
12-27-2008, 02:11 PM
In other news, the two guys living next to me in the dorm were paired up by the school...one is from the Bronx, the Other...Boston...It isn't pretty...

floydpink
12-27-2008, 02:17 PM
In other news, the two guys living next to me in the dorm were paired up by the school...one is from the Bronx, the Other...Boston...It isn't pretty...

I'll bet a box of Montes that the guy from the Bronx ends of kicking his ass beyond recognition before midterms....:ze

spectrrr
12-27-2008, 04:55 PM
In other news, the two guys living next to me in the dorm were paired up by the school...one is from the Bronx, the Other...Boston...It isn't pretty...

:r :r :r :r :r

now if that aint the greatest thing you ever heard....


I'll bet a box of Montes that the guy from the Bronx ends of kicking his ass beyond recognition before midterms....:ze

now now, and here I thought we were starting to play nice again. :tg

VirtualSmitty
12-27-2008, 05:07 PM
You can call me out till Hell freezes over (or the Blow Sox win the WS, whatever a really looong time). Your just going to have to be content with the bashing. Unlike Hank, you cannot buy my wager :D

Fixed that for ya ;)

ScottieM
12-27-2008, 06:21 PM
Judging from this thread and the pissed off Red Sox fans whining on it, the Yankees obviously did something right this Off Season.:D

floydpink
12-27-2008, 06:27 PM
Funny thing is the OP was in the CC Sabathia thread saying how much the Sox could use Texiera before the Yankees took him away at the last minute.

He then says how MLB has hit rock bottom because the Yankees paid him 1.5 million a year more than Boston was willing to pay.

Under that theory, my home town of Orlando has hit rock bottom because Shaq and Tiger Woods bought homes in Isleworth's gated community and only live there part of the year.:al

If you can afford to buy a pennant, more power to you. Steinbrenner needs a bailout about as much as Wayne Huizenga did when he bought a championship with the Marlins.

farm system my ass...

Genetic Defect
12-27-2008, 06:29 PM
I don't care about the nonsense in this thread, all "professional" athletes and other "celebrities" are grossly over paid.

spectrrr
12-27-2008, 07:05 PM
Judging from this thread and the pissed off Red Sox fans whining on it, the Yankees obviously did something right this Off Season.:D

not sure where you're gettin the whining. seems like the sox fans are doing about the same level of trash talking as the yankees fans.

spectrrr
12-27-2008, 07:06 PM
all "professional" athletes and other "celebrities" are grossly over paid.

here here! :chr I'll drink to that.

Genetic Defect
12-27-2008, 07:07 PM
here here! :chr I'll drink to that.

sweet I too will drink to that :)

Yazzie
12-27-2008, 07:27 PM
Me too but all those giuys are on the YanKees
Posted via Mobile Device

spectrrr
12-27-2008, 08:37 PM
Me too but all those giuys are on the YanKees
Posted via Mobile Device

now now, we got a few folks on our roster that aint worth their paycheck either!

gettysburgfreak
12-28-2008, 05:27 AM
now now, we got a few folks on our roster that aint worth their paycheck either!


Yea like Lugo, what a waste of cash he is.

AdamC
12-28-2008, 06:08 AM
I go to almost every home game, and I've never been to a game where I get into any argument with a yankees fan, we usually shoot the sh!t the entire game, comparing (not arguing) stats and all that good stuff.

floydpink
12-28-2008, 06:23 AM
I go to almost every home game, and I've never been to a game where I get into any argument with a yankees fan, we usually shoot the sh!t the entire game, comparing (not arguing) stats and all that good stuff.

That's the way I always remember Yankee Stadium since I started watching games there in the early 70's with my Dad. It was always one big love fest and we often treated Red Sox and Dodgers fans to hotdogs and gave up our seats if they wanted them.:r

Actually, the Red Sox weren't much of a factor back then and it was usually the Dodgers that were in our way of another title.

My how times have changed.