So Politically Correct we can't talk?

[TripleF]

Just received and e-mail from a client (born and rasied here in the USA) stating:
I hope you and your family have a safe and prosperous Holiday and Merry New Year!

I'm like, HUH? WTH? So politically correct,........ not wanting to possibly offend anyone by actually saying Merry Christmas,.......... we can't even say Happy Holidays right.

Sheeeeeeeeeesh......



BTW, Merry Christmas!!!!


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[goalie204]

Maybe....that's just how he says it...

[TripleF]

or spell.


Can a mod please change the p to an "o" in the title word "So"

[Mark C]

I went to Chik-fil-a the other day and the girl in the window wished me a Merry Christmas when she handed me my food. From a place that closes on Sunday I'm not surprised, but I like that :)

I used to wish a Merry Christmas as a cashier at Best Buy. Several people told me they liked hearing that, nobody complained.

[TripleF]

I went to Chik-fil-a the other day and the girl in the window wished me a Merry Christmas when she handed me my food. From a place that closes on Sunday I'm not surprised, but I like that :)

I used to wish a Merry Christmas as a cashier at Best Buy. Several people told me they liked hearing that, nobody complained.


Here! Here!!

Or in this case Hear! Hear!!

[massphatness]

Personally, I'd rather have the holiday be merry and the new year be prosperous.

[pnoon]

or spell.


Can a mod please change the p to an "o" in the title word "So"

Got it.

I wish all of you a pleasant end-of-year celebration of whatever and may your future endeavors have an optimal outcome. ;)

[Don Fernando]

If people want to be offended they will find a reason. They could say that the turning of the years, or the dating of the years, is based on religious grounds and that offends them. Or they come up with any other reason they can think off.

I dislike Christmas, but I am not offended by it. But I am not offended by the Hadj or Ramadan either. I just couldn't care less about any religious holidays (and that just might offend a lot of people too, I don't care).

[replicant_argent]

Merry Christmas! That wasn't hard to say. Heck, I can even say Happy Hanukkah! Happy Chinese New Year!!!

Didn't even blink an eye, that was so easy. I didn't hurt anyone by wishing them well, I didn't offend anyone by leaving them out, but if they want me to wish them happiness, I can do that, just greet me with your holiday greeting and I will return the same, with a smile on my face, and true intent that they do.

As far as PC BS goes, anyone that complains about someone saying Merry Christmas, or doesn't do it because they think it might offend someone needs a little rum and eggnog to loosen up, or... oh nevermind.

I just decided that I am going to wish every person I see today the heartiest "Merry Christmas!!" I can, and mean it. I might even throw in a hug or two to people I don't know, just to freak em out a little bit. I might even give some candy canes to some little kids.

[Tombstone]

Just received and e-mail from a client (born and rasied here in the USA) stating:
I hope you and your family have a safe and prosperous Holiday and Merry New Year!

I'm like, HUH? WTH? So politically correct,........ not wanting to possibly offend anyone by actually saying Merry Christmas,.......... we can't even say Happy Holidays right.

Sheeeeeeeeeesh......



BTW, Merry Christmas!!!!


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TripleF how's it going. MERRY CHRISTMAS. I'm with you...i am tired of everyone trying to be PC...just be correct (who cares if it hurts someone's little feelings).

[md4958]

Merry Christmas Scotty!!!
and God bless us, everyone!

[gettysburgfreak]

Im all about saying Marry Christmas, I can't stand the politically correct Happy Holidays.

[md4958]

my employees are instructed to wish everybody an Merry Christmas... none of this happy holidays bullchit! If I know a customer is Jewish, I will wish him a happy Hanukkah, and they in turn will wish me a Merry Christmas.

oh, they get Happy Easter too!

P.C. should stand for Petit Corona

[pnoon]

TripleF how's it going. MERRY CHRISTMAS. I'm with you...i am tired of everyone trying to be PC...just be correct (who cares if it hurts someone's little feelings).

Im all about saying Marry Christmas, I can't stand the politically correct Happy Holidays.

There is a difference between being overly PC and just plain insensitive. There is a time and place for everything. If I see someone who is obviously Jewish, I'm not going to wish them a Merry Christmas. Also, if I see someone who I'm pretty sure is not Christian, I may well wish them "Happy Holidays". Not to be politically correct but just ot be kind.

[schnell987]

Please don't be offended, but I can't reply to your question...(j/k):D.

Hopefully the pendulum will swing back soon.

Merry Christmas everyone!

And I hope that you also have a Happy, safe, prosperous and productive New Year!

[macpappy]

If people want to be offended they will find a reason. They could say that the turning of the years, or the dating of the years, is based on religious grounds and that offends them. Or they come up with any other reason they can think off.

I dislike Christmas, but I am not offended by it. But I am not offended by the Hadj or Ramadan either. I just couldn't care less about any religious holidays (and that just might offend a lot of people too, I don't care).

The world would be a lot more peaceful if other people would not get offended by what other people believe in. I thank you for not being offended

[The Professor]

I guess I'm not sure why an inclusive greeting between people who (a) may not share the same religious affiliation and (b) may not know each other's degree of religiosity or affiliation is a bad thing. Why is defaulting to a greeting that's inclusive rather than exclusive bad? I say "happy holidays" all the time and don't really understand why the email referenced in the OP is bad at all. Seems like a pleasant and thoughtful fellow, if you ask me.

[mrreindeer]

Just received and e-mail from a client (born and rasied here in the USA) stating:
I hope you and your family have a safe and prosperous Holiday and Merry New Year!

I'm like, HUH? WTH? So politically correct,........ not wanting to possibly offend anyone by actually saying Merry Christmas,.......... we can't even say Happy Holidays right.

Sheeeeeeeeeesh......

BTW, Merry Christmas!!!!

Hey there TripleF, just as you're shocked by your client's well intended and yes, PC, greeting, it is quite possible that a bunch of people would get equally shocked by a presumptuous greeting of 'Merry Christmas'. You'd be surprised how many, even some Christians (I've heard).

I'm no fan of PC, as I'm sure some of you know, and I've got a very thick skin and am not easily offended myself. However, when I send out my holiday cards to my clients (and friends), I very clearly wish them a happy holiday and prosperous new year for good reason. The cards I choose to send are holiday/wintery cards with a very PC message because the Christian clients wouldn't like getting Hanukkah cards just as much as the Jewish clients wouldn't like getting Christmas cards and yep, the folks who celebrate Kwanzaa wouldn't like not being acknowledged either...and I've just covered a mere 3 faiths!

So, in order to address everyone in our big mix of a country (not to mention saving time and effort when I would have to buy separate cards and keep a difficult tally of who is what), I merely wish a simple 'Happy Holidays' to cover all my bases and not make anyone feel left out. Likewise, when I'm out and about, I wish people the same 'Happy Holidays' because I don't want to be presumptuous and assume something about a complete stranger. I wouldn't think someone would be offended by a well-intended 'Happy Holidays' though...

Even though, in a way, we all 'celebrate' Christmas in this melting pot of a great country, regardless of our faith (almost everyone I know has the day off, for instance, and we all shop the 'Christmas sales'...), I still respect someone's religious freedom and understand that some might take offense if I wish them 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Hanukkah' or 'Happy Kwanzaa' or 'Happy Ramadan' (whenever that is).

Make sense?

[BC-Axeman]

Christmas in the United States is a time of year, as well as just a holiday. In the United States you can have a Merry Christmas even if you don't celebrate the day. You can't get away from Christmas here unless you are delusional. It is in your face for months. Calling it "Season" or "Holiday" does not change what season or holiday you are really talking about. I am more offended by people who are thinking they are going out of their way not to offend anyone.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

[dunng]

Merry Christmas Scotty!!!
and God bless us, everyone!

:tpd:

[jledou]

As part of work I get around to different parts of the world and I have encountered people of many different beliefs. There was always one common thing with the rest of the world different than what we experience in the US ... they all made sure to include everyone not try to be PC and exclude something because they thought someone would be offended.

We commonly receive a Merry Christmas from our clients in all parts of the world including Asia and the Middle East.

Something to think about for the new year, pause open your mind and try to include everyone. You might be surprised that most people around the world are just like us, they want to enjoy life and provide a good life for their family.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
Jay

[tedrodgerscpa]

I'm not a Christian, and it doesnt' bother me in the least bit when someone wishes me a 'Merry Christmas'

I do celebrate the holiday, and I'm careful to wish the people I'm around a 'Happy Holiday', because my job does require sensitivity in a very culturally diverse workplace

I can sympathize with both sides of the argument.

I choose to be respectful to those who do not celebrate the Christian version of Christmas, or participate in other (Hanukkah, Kwanzaa) holidays.

I also have a couple of friends who, due to their religious beliefs, do not celebrate any holidays. We've talked about this very subject... When someone wishes them a "Happy Thanksgiving", they simply say "Thank you".


BTW, I celebrate Halloween and I'm not a Celtic Pagan, either...

[Mugen910]

Merry Christmas! That wasn't hard to say. Heck, I can even say Happy Hanukkah! Happy Chinese New Year!!!


Chinese New Year is not for two months Pete...c'mon that common knowledge! Now I'm offended!
:D

[piperman]

Everybody please have a Merry Christmas and Happy New year

[Smokin Gator]

I make it a point to say Merry Christmas... but to friends and acquantances (sp) who are Jewish I wish them a Happy Hanukkah. If I offend someone and they let me know I will apologize for the offense but not for my greeting.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Friend of mine wrote this : He is rather barbaric in language (he's a lawyer)
"Tonight in the center of my town they have what's called the "Holiday Stroll". The two main streets are already covered in wreaths, garland and lights. Looks awesome. The stores have specials, the food places put little booths on the street. There is a place to take pics with Santa. And, being a very dog friendly town, many pups are dressed with bells and hats. All in all, quite festive.

And if I buy something or meet someone on the street, I will say to them "Merry Christmas". Therein lies the problem. When, and admittedly I may have missed the interoffice memo on this, did the words "Merry Christmas" as they left my mouth somehow turn into "**** you" before they hit the tympanic membrane of the person I said it to? Because from the look on many people's faces, that's exactly what type of inexplicable phenomenon occurs to me on a daily basis for the past few years.

Now I promise you, if I wanted to say "**** you", "go kill yourself with a wooden spoon" or " I did your Mom and she wasn't half bad" I would. I say some or most of those things daily. All I said was Merry Christmas. Let's examine what I mean by that, pre-phenomena:

"MERRY CHRISTMAS".

WHAT I MEAN by this is let's all enjoy each other's company this fine season. Peace on Earth, good will towards men. Santa Claus. Presents. Mo' presents. Christmas Trees. Candy Canes. Lights. Reindeer. Still mo' presents. Remembering family times past. Especially those with my Dad, that I miss very, very much. Eggnog. Parties. Building a snowman with my daughter. Sleigh rides through Central Park. The window displays on 5th Avenue in NYC. That really comforting quiet when you go outside on a snowy night. Let's forget for a bit the problems of the world and our own. Christmas dinner. And yes, mo' presents.

WHAT I DON'T MEAN is mine is the true religion. Yours sucks. Only mine should be celebrated. Your traditions mean nothing to me. Convert or die (we leave that schtick to others). And of course "**** you", "go kill yourself with a wooden spoon" and "I did your Mom and she wasn't half bad".

I don't care what religion you are. Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan. Worship a head of iceburg lettuce. Good for you. I'll respect yours as long as you respect mine. Frankly, we here at Team Roman Catholic are happy with the starting roster we have and are not looking for any free agents. Please point out Santa, Rudolph or candy canes in the Bible and I'll knock this **** off muy pronto.

You know what it has come to here? Stuff like in the UK. My daughter's daycare center sent home a note for all parents. Essentially, "In respect of all religions and their holidays, we will celebrate none" OK, fine. But parents *****ed about my daughter's "I Believe In Santa" sweatshirt? For this I truly do mean "go kill yourself with a wooden spoon". Do you hate my traditions that much or are you so unsure of yours? Either way, get a ****ing life. She's 3 years old. Imagine ****ing this. A THREE YEAR OLD GIRL LIKES SANTA. Holy ****, stop the presses. Do people just say this to go along with the herd? Has everyone lost their collective ****ing minds?

I never thought I would live to see the day when "Merry Christmas" was considered an insult. So, while I do mean it with for all of the good reasons I mentioned above (I LOVE Christmas), I issue this warning. If I say it and you say it back, say Seasons Greetings, Happy Holidays, etc. Fine. If you say nothing, fine. But IF you look at me like I said any or all of the three past mentioned phrases, it's on. If I know I can get to you because of this, I will haunt you on the street, store or whereever the **** you choose until you say "Well, I NEVER...." and storm away with your hubby and your Scotty dog into your Lexus and speed off. This Christmas season, I draw my line in the sand...ur...snow. In the spirit of Christmas but of course."

[replicant_argent]

Chinese New Year is not for two months Pete...c'mon that common knowledge! Now I'm offended!
:D

that was 10 months late, for last year, you Dork.

[BC-Axeman]

Friend of mine wrote this : He is rather barbaric in language (he's a lawyer)
"Tonight in the center of my town they have what's called the "Holiday Stroll".

...

And if I buy something or meet someone on the street, I will say to them "Merry Christmas". Therein lies the problem. When, and admittedly I may have missed the interoffice memo on this, did the words "Merry Christmas" as they left my mouth somehow turn into "**** you" before they hit the tympanic membrane of the person I said it to? Because from the look on many people's faces, that's exactly what type of inexplicable phenomenon occurs to me on a daily basis for the past few years.

Now I promise you, if I wanted to say "**** you", "go kill yourself with a wooden spoon" or " I did your Mom and she wasn't half bad" I would.

...

You know what it has come to here? Stuff like in the UK. My daughter's daycare center sent home a note for all parents. Essentially, "In respect of all religions and their holidays, we will celebrate none" OK, fine. But parents *****ed about my daughter's "I Believe In Santa" sweatshirt? For this I truly do mean "go kill yourself with a wooden spoon". Do you hate my traditions that much or are you so unsure of yours? Either way, get a ****ing life. She's 3 years old. Imagine ****ing this. A THREE YEAR OLD GIRL LIKES SANTA. Holy ****, stop the presses. Do people just say this to go along with the herd? Has everyone lost their collective ****ing minds?

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Almost everybody feels this way. Why do we subject ourselves to the tyranny of the minority?

BTW, half my family is Jewish (I am not) and we say "Merry Christmas" to one another.

[The Professor]

Almost everybody feels this way. Why do we subject ourselves to the tyranny of the minority?

BTW, half my family is Jewish (I am not) and we say "Merry Christmas" to one another.
"tyranny of the minority"???

no one has really answered my question from before. what's *wrong* with defaulting to an inclusive greeting? what's wrong with the email in the OP (aside from being a little verbose)?

[Darrell]

Merry ****ing Christmas!

How about that? :tu

[The Professor]

Merry ****ing Christmas!

How about that? :tu
that was a little subdued and subtle for you ... must still be drugged up post-op. ;) :dance:

[rizzle]

"tyranny of the minority"???

no one has really answered my question from before. what's *wrong* with defaulting to an inclusive greeting? what's wrong with the email in the OP (aside from being a little verbose)?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Just as there is absolutely nothing wrong with wishing someone a Merry Christmas. If I offend anyone with that I tend to really offend them when I tell them to go f themselves.
:ss

[replicant_argent]

"tyranny of the minority"???

no one has really answered my question from before. what's *wrong* with defaulting to an inclusive greeting? what's wrong with the email in the OP (aside from being a little verbose)?

In my opinion, it is defaulting to a "lowest common denominator" designation. That repulses me. If someone uses it because they like it, that is one thing, if it is used because they wish to be PC, I would rather not be subject to their "sensitivities." I would, however, smile and return the greeting.
It's a bit like saying "Good Morning" to someone between the hours of 12 AM and 12 PM and thinking that particular phrase becomes somehow offensive if they indeed work the night shift and it is actually their evening.
if a holiday phrase (or cartoon, actually, now that I think of it), is enough to "offend" anyone, they need to re-evaluate more than the ramifications of a couple of words, or showing the bottom of a shoe, for that matter.

[tnip23]

Honestly, I don't care what anyone uses as a holiday greeting. I say Merry Christmas to everyone, unless I know they celebrate something else. To me saying Merry Christmas is the same as saying "I wish you all the best this holiday season", so if someone is offended, I simply don't care.

Being offended is another silly concept, no one can offend me unless I choose to allow myself to be offended. Too many people, by choice, decide to be offended by other's statements and many go around looking to be offended. That is what I despise about political correctness, it assumes that anything any individual deems to be offending is inappropriate, even if it is something as innocuous as saying Merry Christmas.

Oh, and everyone please have a Merry Christmas! (the definition is explained in the first paragraph as to my intent with this greeting)

[Tombstone]

Almost everybody feels this way. Why do we subject ourselves to the tyranny of the minority?

BTW, half my family is Jewish (I am not) and we say "Merry Christmas" to one another.

Axeman i agree with almost all of your post!! I know exactly what you mean by 'tyranny of the minority'.

[Darrell]

that was a little subdued and subtle for you ... must still be drugged up post-op. ;) :dance:

:r

Thanks for the support, Herr Dok!

[Ace$nyper]

It's a time of the year as stated before, like the old joke do they have july 4th in England?

Lets say you are Jewish I wish you a happy holiday I'm not trying to convert you I'm just saying I hope Dec 25 is a nice day for you.

I'd not be bothered if someone said have a good *holiday here* even if it's not what i'm doing it's still a nice gesture.

If anything happy holidays is just, lazy and less personal.

[Tombstone]

Christmas is getting close i need to pick out my Holiday tree.:r

[Mr. Ed]

"tyranny of the minority"???

no one has really answered my question from before. what's *wrong* with defaulting to an inclusive greeting? what's wrong with the email in the OP (aside from being a little verbose)?

I interchange them all the time. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. I also don't see why using an inclusive greeting is such a big problem.

It's a very pleasant greeting at the end of the day and shows respect and care, even if the person saying it is being "PC".

[Mr. Ed]

If anything happy holidays is just, lazy and less personal.

How is that? Happy Holidays is the same number of words as Merry Christmas and has a greater number of syllables. :ss

Seriously though, I don't see anything lazy about it at all. You are still hoping the person has a happy holiday at the end of the day, aren't you?

[Ace$nyper]

How is that? Happy Holidays is the same number of words as Merry Christmas and has a greater number of syllables. :ss

Seriously though, I don't see anything lazy about it at all. You are still hoping the person has a happy holiday at the end of the day, aren't you?
Fair enough but it's like enjoy your hoilday... what ever it is.

I dunno that's the vibe I get from it.

[csbrewfisher]

To all my brother and sister inmates at Cigar Asylum,

Merry Christmas, God bless you, have a happy and safe new year.

:)

[MithShrike]

I wish people a joyous Yule or good solstice but certainly don't mind hearing a Merry Christmas or Happy Hannukah.

[rhdad42]

You're exactly right. I was wrapping up at the office the other day and was on with a colleague of mine in another office. I know he goes to church every Sunday, as I do, and still I've been conditioned to not say those two dreaded words! I wished him and his family a Happy Holiday season, to which he replied, "Merry Christmas." I felt like crap, and I know I won't speak to him again before the holidays. So today, here, I wish Eric and his family a very Blessed and Merry Christmas.

And to all of you, my brothers and sisters of the leaf, I wish a Merry Christmas, a Happy Hanukkah, a Happy Kwanzaa, or just love and peace for you and your families.

[Cigary]

It's ridiculous,,,pure and simple. I say Merry Christmas and if they have an issue over it,,,get a life. If that offends somebody then they need to figure out what is important in life.

[Tombstone]

It's ridiculous,,,pure and simple. I say Merry Christmas and if they have an issue over it,,,get a life. If that offends somebody then they need to figure out what is important in life.

Right on!!!! My exact thoughts!!

[DBall]

You guys forgot Kwanzaa.

Funny story:

My best man from my wedding is straight outta Africa... born and raised in Nigeria and stayed there until he was around 18. When the topic of Kwanzaa came up he started laughing his ass off and said that he never even heard of it until he moved to the states...

[Tombstone]

You guys forgot Kwanzaa.

Funny story:

My best man from my wedding is straight outta Africa... born and raised in Nigeria and stayed there until he was around 18. When the topic of Kwanzaa came up he started laughing his ass off and said that he never even heard of it until he moved to the states...

It is a racist holiday. Look it up!

[Partagaspete]

A Few inputs:

Chik-Filet is Christian owned and hence the Merry Christmas and closed on Sunday.

The Brits love comming to my Base on the 4th of July to watch the fire works and I always see a bit of humor in that...Our first enemy as a natiion is now our best and strongest ally.

Last and definately not least MERRY CHRISTMAS and A Happy New Year.


T

[G G]

Merry Christmas Scotty!!!
and God bless us, everyone!

Moe beat me to it. Couldn't say it any better than that.

[bigloo]

I am Jewish and I always wish folks Merry Christmas. Why, because 99% of the time you would be correct! I also hate people who question the PC of it because other might be offended. I dont know one Jew who does not wish people merry Christmas and loves a good christmas party with friends! Merry Christmas all and Happy Hanukah to my JBOTLS!

[ucla695]

It is ridiculous, but I say 'Happy Holidays' just to avoid the hassle of ticking anyone off.

[hotreds]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2399/2088518926_9e146e8098.jpg

Bigloo- Shalohm and

http://4-hobby.com/HanukkahDancing/hanukkah_happy-hanukkah_20.jpg

[schnell987]

Jeeeez...I hope that a cigar board is not offensive to anybody.:rolleyes:

(No, I really Don't care if it is).

[loki]

merry christmahanukwanzaka to you

[Rabidsquirrel]

As an atheist, I celebrate Christmas as a time of family, changing of the seasons, reason to be together, etc. I call it Christmas and I wish people a Merry Christmas. I'm not offended when people do the same to me. As stated in an above post Christmas is a time of year for many people, not just a religious holiday.

My Christmas wish: May overt PCness become a thing of the past.

[Ace$nyper]

I'm offended by you not being offended.
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jk

[heavyd]

Political correctness is killing us here in the USA. Europe is already a lost cause, IMO. I recently had a discussion with my pops about this very issue. He said one thing that stuck with me..."If you control the language, you control the debate." Thought police, anyone? :)

[yourchoice]

Happy Festivus!!!






and Merry Christmas!

[CBI_2]

Well, Some people think they have the right not to be offended. Somehow I missed that one in the Bill of Rights. Those people make me want to purposefully offensive to them.

So Merry Christmas to all you nuts in the asylum.

If I've offended anyone when I say that then all I can say is tough crapola. :D


HMMMM! Maybe that's why I like Dennis Leary so much. That I don't give a chit if someone has been offended because I haven't been PC aware enough.

[TonySmith]

People should take the greetings as intended. It's a shame that to some people every believe but theirs is being insensitive.

I wish a Merry Christmas to all of you, and a Happy New Year

[TripleF]

Great banter!!





Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat point DBall...........................Kwanza is actually nothing. And as always, Tombstone, is dead on about Kwanza.




Thanks for the Merry Christmas greetings everybody.

and to all of you....


a Very, Very Merry Christmas!!!


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[Ashcan Bill]

When I wish someone a Merry Christmas, or a Happy Hanukkah, or Happy Holidays, or whatever, the thought I'm really conveying is that you're someone I care about, and I sincerely wish you the best life can offer.

I guess maybe I'm fortunate. The people I come in contact with all seem to understand this.

Merry Christmas, Asylum

[Cigary]

Right on!!!! My exact thoughts!!
HIgh 5 my friend!!

I am Jewish and I always wish folks Merry Christmas. Why, because 99% of the time you would be correct! I also hate people who question the PC of it because other might be offended. I dont know one Jew who does not wish people merry Christmas and loves a good christmas party with friends! Merry Christmas all and Happy Hanukah to my JBOTLS!

Well said bigloo,,,,regardless of your beliefs or faith saying the words to another is just a way of expressing a positive thoughts and feelings to another,,,and if someone is looking to make trouble from something so simple then hop a plane or boat and go somewhere where they have no freedom of expression and see how long you enjoy it,,,I'm thinking after a few months of being controlled and having your freedom of expression being limited you'd bd happy to hear anything from anyone just saying something to you with good wishes. Unreal that people want to stir $hit up as to the Holidays.
As an atheist, I celebrate Christmas as a time of family, changing of the seasons, reason to be together, etc. I call it Christmas and I wish people a Merry Christmas. I'm not offended when people do the same to me. As stated in an above post Christmas is a time of year for many people, not just a religious holiday.

My Christmas wish: May overt PCness become a thing of the past.
I agree 200% on this.
People should take the greetings as intended. It's a shame that to some people every believe but theirs is being insensitive.

I wish a Merry Christmas to all of you, and a Happy New Year


Merry Christmas and New Year to all.

[acarr]

I would like to wish everyone at CA a prosperous holiday and a merry new year:ss:D:salute:

[Waynegro1]

or spell.


Can a mod please change the p to an "o" in the title word "So"


Maybe the Sp stands for "Secular Progressive". :r:r:r
Sorry, I couldn't help it.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!

[MadAl]

I am Jewish and I always wish folks Merry Christmas. Why, because 99% of the time you would be correct! I also hate people who question the PC of it because other might be offended. I dont know one Jew who does not wish people merry Christmas and loves a good christmas party with friends! Merry Christmas all and Happy Hanukah to my JBOTLS!

bigloo says it all!

[DKPRLP]

Live & let the smokers SMOKE

[csbrewfisher]

To all my sensitive brothers and sisters of the leaf:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an
environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive,
gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within
the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or
secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular
persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice
religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally
successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of
the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2009, but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to
society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is
necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the
Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race,
creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of
the wishee.

*
To my BotLs and SotLs with a brain:

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

[Cigary]

Lol,,,,talk about CYA,,,,I think you got it all covered.:salute:

To all my sensitive brothers and sisters of the leaf:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an
environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive,
gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within
the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or
secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular
persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice
religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally
successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of
the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2009, but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to
society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is
necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the
Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race,
creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of
the wishee.

*
To my BotLs and SotLs with a brain:

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

[D_A]

Is it me or is the term 'Politically Correct' an oxymoron? How often is anything political correct? I will frequently use the term Happy Holidays, more often when writing than speaking. It's not because I want to be PC, but more so because I'm too lazy to write Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. If my laziness offends anyone, :fu :r

[Ken]

There wouldn't be any Happy Holidays this week if it weren't for the "Merry Christmas". Funny, I don't hear many protests from atheists fighting for their right to work Wednesday and Thursday. :hm

I actually have a buddy who is atheist and he called to thank me for the Christmas card we had sent.

Merry Christmas people.

[Genetic Defect]

I guess I'm not sure why an inclusive greeting between people who (a) may not share the same religious affiliation and (b) may not know each other's degree of religiosity or affiliation is a bad thing. Why is defaulting to a greeting that's inclusive rather than exclusive bad? I say "happy holidays" all the time and don't really understand why the email referenced in the OP is bad at all. Seems like a pleasant and thoughtful fellow, if you ask me.

and this is why you don't get asked.

I would like to see sample pics of the obvious looking Jewish people :)

[RevSmoke]

I thought to read this and see what is going on. I could speak about a number of things. But, I only want to right quickly and off the cuff. So, here goes...

I would be offended if a Jew were to wish me - Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Why? They mean nothing to him. I would expect him to wish me the best of what he believes, and greet me with Happy Chanukah.

In the same way, when I expect Christians to wish me a Merry Christmas, it is not a way of pushing religion on them - it is wishing them the very best of what Christians believe to be true.

In the same way, I'd never expect a non-Christian to wish me a Merry Christmas or Happy Chanukah, but Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts.

[MadAl]

I thought to read this and see what is going on. I could speak about a number of things. But, I only want to right quickly and off the cuff. So, here goes...

I would be offended if a Jew were to wish me - Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Why? They mean nothing to him. I would expect him to wish me the best of what he believes, and greet me with Happy Chanukah.

In the same way, when I expect Christians to wish me a Merry Christmas, it is not a way of pushing religion on them - it is wishing them the very best of what Christians believe to be true.

In the same way, I'd never expect a non-Christian to wish me a Merry Christmas or Happy Chanukah, but Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts.

If I, a Jew, wished you a Merry Christmas, I would hope you would consider that I have taken the time to learn something about the sanctity of Christmas, and what it means to those of the Christian faith. Maybe that's just me, but I hope you would take it that way.

[Genetic Defect]

http://www.huebnerpetersen.com/jayco_xmas/snowglobe/index.html

[BamBam]

Happy Festivus!!!






and Merry Christmas!

"George get over here and wrestle your Father"

[Squid]

It's really pretty friggin simple....just say MERRY CHRISTMAS. If they have a problem with it, then it's just that....THEIR PROBLEM!

By the way.....MERRY CHRISTMAS to all the inmates and great friends here in the Asylum!

[Genetic Defect]

what is so "merry" about it?

[Squid]

what is so "merry" about it?

Not quite sure just what your question or inference is? "Merry" could mean a lot of things to a lot of people. The season itself lends, to some people, to more pleasantries to and from others, festive atmospheres, gift giving, etc. In fact....in my office those oF NON-CHRISTIAN backgrounds participate in the gift exchanges and "pot lucks" that are coordinated.

Personally, from a religious aspect, it does give my family and I an oppportunity to reflect upon the significance of what this season represents...which makes it a significant "merry" event. I will acknowledge to those who have studied religion, that the time of year that we celebrate this event is not necessarily the time of year that the events that unfolded occurred....but, it is the time that we do celebrate it in this country.

To each his own....but, as far as the topic of this thread....stores and college campus settings, and other locations that have chosen to refrain from the significance of what the Christmas season is about has gotten to the point of ridiculous, based upon Political Correctness and so as not to upset "non-Christians." Have your kwanzas and other events....and I'll respect your events....but, don't take away a time-honored and a Christian-based event because a few knuckleheads in this country want to play silly games where the few will make the decisions for the majority. Those that cave into this PC environment are no better than those that are initiating the issues.

Just my :2....nevertheless, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[Mr.Maduro]

Just my :2....nevertheless, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Right back at ya buddy!!

[schnell987]

To all my sensitive brothers and sisters of the leaf:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an
environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive,
gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within
the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or
secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular
persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice
religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally
successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of
the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2009, but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to
society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is
necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the
Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race,
creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of
the wishee.

*
To my BotLs and SotLs with a brain:

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

As PC as this is, I'm sure that some would be offended that this is only in english!

Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas!

[RevSmoke]

If I, a Jew, wished you a Merry Christmas, I would hope you would consider that I have taken the time to learn something about the sanctity of Christmas, and what it means to those of the Christian faith. Maybe that's just me, but I hope you would take it that way.

If you so desire, I will take it that way. And gladly.

I would hope that you also understand my point?