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markem
04-08-2014, 02:35 PM
Just bought my first BGE (large) and know that I will be very happy.

One thing that I'm trying to figure out is how to get the BGE down to 225* and hold steady. I can it a bit below 300* right now, but have the lower and upper dampers barely cracked.

Any BGE owners here that have any tips? I'm on the BGE forum as well, but not finding what I need - bet that's not an uncommon statement.

Any other forums people recommend where you can get GE specific advice?

kydsid
04-08-2014, 03:21 PM
When are you closing the grates down? Follow the lighting procedure in the manual. And remember it is easier and ultimately quicker to come up slow to temp then it is to lower the temp on a bge.

Also check your thermometer. May need calibration.

Ps congrats on the purchase and wasn't that a quick purchase? :p

markem
04-08-2014, 03:30 PM
The thermometer may be off, so that's worth checking out. I brought it up to a registered 300 and then started closing things down. As present, the bottom is open about 1-2mm and the top is cracked just about to see the vent, so maybe 1mm

kydsid
04-08-2014, 03:35 PM
Yeah it takes forever for an egg to drop temperature so that's your problem. Lot of thermal mass. Its a mistake I made too so don't feel bad. Eventually you'll get a feel for how open each vent needs to be for a certain temp. I can set my vents and come back to 200-225 nearly every time.

As for forums I'm over at eggheadforums.

markem
04-08-2014, 03:38 PM
Thanks, Jason.

I'm on eggheadforum, but am not yet allowed to post.

Steve
04-09-2014, 07:15 AM
So you replaced the Treagar? Nice choice! I mentioned to Holly the other night that I would like to have a BGE and from the look I got, I think I better be happy with the smokers I have :D

I tried to convince her how great a pizza oven it would make, so ther is still hope.

8lug
04-09-2014, 08:17 AM
I always start with everthing wide open until the egg reaches 300 or so and then set the bottom vent to about a 1/4-3/8 inch open. and top slider closed with only the dasiy wheel slots open full, 225-250 every time. As Marken said check your thermometer.

Happy cooking

markem
04-09-2014, 08:30 AM
I always start with everthing wide open until the egg reaches 300 or so and then set the bottom vent to about a 1/4-3/8 inch open. and top slider closed with only the dasiy wheel slots open full, 225-250 every time. As Marken said check your thermometer.

Happy cooking

Thanks, Mark! I'll do as Jason suggested and check the thermometer today.

Are you closing all the top vents? That seems to be what it'll take, but I'm leery of smothering the fire. I hear you on the bottom vents, I had mine down to 1 set up the holes on the vent and still had 289* solid, but I did have the top vent holes cracked a tiny bit.

8lug
04-09-2014, 09:07 AM
Thanks, Mark! I'll do as Jason suggested and check the thermometer today.

Are you closing all the top vents? That seems to be what it'll take, but I'm leery of smothering the fire. I hear you on the bottom vents, I had mine down to 1 set up the holes on the vent and still had 289* solid, but I did have the top vent holes cracked a tiny bit.


You'll be amazed at how little air flow it takes to keep the fire going. when i do wings in Ah-so sause i need a steady temp so the sause does burn before the wings are cooked. so i set the botton vent open to about the width of my pinkie. and the the top holes in the wheel are are 3/4 of the way open. this holds 250ish for ever and a day it seems.

Eperiment with different setting, its real easy to get a hot fire, not so much if you're trying to lower the temps.

Enjoy!!!!

Steve
04-09-2014, 09:10 AM
When you close the top vents down on BGEs, do you have any trouble with the smoke condensing? On my log burner, I keep my flue open all the way and control the fire with the intake vents. Just wondering...

357
04-09-2014, 09:27 AM
When you close the top vents down on BGEs, do you have any trouble with the smoke condensing? On my log burner, I keep my flue open all the way and control the fire with the intake vents. Just wondering...

This is the recommendation I read when controlling temps in my UDS as well. They suggest leaving top vent all the way open and only adjusting the intake valves to control heat. However, I have tried it both ways. Not sure about the condensation though as I almost never open while smoking and wasn't paying attention to the lid. I'll check next time I try it out.

8lug
04-09-2014, 09:46 AM
When you close the top vents down on BGEs, do you have any trouble with the smoke condensing? On my log burner, I keep my flue open all the way and control the fire with the intake vents. Just wondering...


Agreeded on the stick burning, i keep my stacks wide open too.
I'm no thermal physicist and can't explain how it works but the intake and exhuast on an egg is so balanced that burns clean at whatever temp you set it for. :D

kydsid
04-09-2014, 10:12 AM
When you close the top vents down on BGEs, do you have any trouble with the smoke condensing? On my log burner, I keep my flue open all the way and control the fire with the intake vents. Just wondering...

Nope. Its as already said really efficient so very little air flow is needed. I smoke for up to 12 hours on two fist sized chunks of wood in my charcoal load.

In you keep the exhaust open you couldn't even get below 350 in my experience.


PS the BGE makes and absolutely fantastic pizza oven. 2 minutes at 800 degrees gets the most amazing crispy bubbly pizza you've ever had at home. The only equal is a big old brick oven.

markem
04-09-2014, 10:52 AM
Thanks, All! Found some good youtube videos about low and slow on the BGE as well.

I've decided to splurge on a thermoworks dual probe as well. http://www.thermoworks.com/products/handheld/TW8060.html#KitsTab

jjirons69
04-10-2014, 01:11 PM
Mark, save some money and get the Maverick. Works great, has a wireless receiver, and is spot on. $60

http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Et-732-Remote-Smoker-Thermometer/dp/B004IMA718

357
04-10-2014, 01:16 PM
Mark, save some money and get the Maverick. Works great, has a wireless receiver, and is spot on. $60

http://www.amazon.com/Maverick-Et-732-Remote-Smoker-Thermometer/dp/B004IMA718

I'm with Jamie here. I love my ET732. I got it for $60 on fleabay and it came with bear claws for shredding pulled pork.

hammondc
04-11-2014, 09:41 AM
+1 on the maverick. Nothing but good on my end. Their CS kinda sucks ass if you ever need it but the thermos are great. Thermopen for instant read.

Smokin Gator
04-15-2014, 11:52 AM
Congrats on the BGE purchase Mark. I have had a large for years and added a medium maybe 6-7 years ago. The medium I pretty much only use to cook steaks. I can get that one to 800 or so easily and don't have to worry about cracking the fire ring.

Pretty much agree with what everyone else has said. Jason is spot on about trying to get the temps down. I use a weed burner/flame thrower to light a very small area right in the middle of the charcoal. I have also used a plumbers torch to do the same thing. Then I open up the top slider all the way and the bottom all the way. After 10 minutes or so it is usually around 200. I close the slider and open the butterfly vents about half way. I close the bottom intake to maybe 1/8 of an inch. Then I let the cooker settle to whatever it settle to… usually around 225-240. That lets the smoke clean up as well. Then I put the meat on and let it resettle. I usually don't have to adjust much from there. I think the best advice I ever got on a BGE is to use the bottom vent for large temp changes and the top for fine changes. With that in mind I can make it run just about spot on.

For the medium I light as much charcoal as I can open all the vents wide open and let it rip. Within about 15 minutes it will peg the thermometer past 750!! You have to be careful to burp the lid when you open it or it will flash and burn the hair off your arms.

Have fun learning the new cooker and eating the results!!

blugill
04-23-2014, 11:36 AM
I have a large as well, can if ask what you're cooking at 225?
Seems really low, even for a large brisket.

markem
04-23-2014, 11:38 AM
I have a large as well, can if ask what you're cooking at 225?
Seems really low, even for a large brisket.

I do brisket at 225 or below. On the egghead forum, I've learned about the turbo method. Did a pork butt this past week that way and may try the brisket like that as well. I have always been a low and slow guy but am willing to try new things.

blugill
04-23-2014, 11:47 AM
The time is just about breaking down the muscle fibers to make it more tender.
It has never seemed like a trade off to me, increasing the temps up to about 270-285 and knocking off a few hours is worth it to me, I wrap it and let is set for another hour or two once it reaches the desired temperature.
I know a couple of competition BBQ teams that cook at over 400 and do it in about three hours and then wrap it and let it set for three or four hours depending on how the cook went.
I don't like that though, there's a huge difference in what you'd cook for yourself in your yard and what you'd turn into the judges in a contest.

tupacboy
04-23-2014, 11:48 AM
I do brisket at 225 or below. On the egghead forum, I've learned about the turbo method. Did a pork butt this past week that way and may try the brisket like that as well. I have always been a low and slow guy but am willing to try new things.


what's this turbo method?

markem
04-23-2014, 11:54 AM
what's this turbo method?

Turbo is cooking at a higher temp for a shorter time. The egghead forum (eggheadforum.com) has lots of examples of how to turbo different cuts of meat at different temps. Lots and lots (and lots and lots) of opinions on this topic.

kydsid
04-23-2014, 03:13 PM
I duuno about the whole turbo thing on egghead forum. I've seen the posts though.

I can tell you though I've been making brisket for a long time and I stopped cooking it at 225 or below a long time ago. Most of my brisket it 225-275 until the meat hits the stall point and then I raise the temp to 325-350. Not had a complaint from anyone yet. ;)

Enjoy your experiments Markem. One of the best parts of BBQin :tu

Steve
04-24-2014, 07:19 AM
I duuno about the whole turbo thing on egghead forum. I've seen the posts though.

I can tell you though I've been making brisket for a long time and I stopped cooking it at 225 or below a long time ago. Most of my brisket it 225-275 until the meat hits the stall point and then I raise the temp to 325-350. Not had a complaint from anyone yet. ;)

Enjoy your experiments Markem. One of the best parts of BBQin :tu

True this! Some of my best discoveries have been thru experiments gone wild :)

And most of what I do is around 235-250 these days...

OLS
04-24-2014, 08:20 AM
Not had a complaint from anyone yet. ;)

WELL.....I understand the COWS are no fans.

Steve
04-24-2014, 08:26 AM
WELL.....I understand the COWS are no fans.

Cows are BEGGING to curl up in my smoker...:noon