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Outlaw God
02-18-2014, 12:10 PM
After going thru and box of each I have to say the Genesis The Project by Ramon Bueso wins hands down for flavor and cost.
Yea yea I'll catch hell from the Liga fans but dam the Genesis The Project just dose it for me in so many ways and wins every time.

If you haven't had the Genesis The Project by Ramon Bueso or even the Liga Privada #9, give them a spin and see if you agree and enjoy :tu

It's even interesting how the bands have some similarity also ;)

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=986&pictureid=8424

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=986&pictureid=8425
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Liga Privada #9
Price $9.45.- $19.
Strength: Full
6 x 52
Country of Origin: Nicaragua
Wrapper Color: Maduro
Wrapper Origin: Connecticut
Wrapper Leaf Type: Broadleaf
Resting time: 5 months
Storage 67 degrees 67 humidity

Prelight: Subtle sweet smell with a hint of grass and apple

1st 1/3
Dark chocolate, black coffee, molasses, leather, cacao powder, spices and a nice creamy texture
Great draw and straight burn line and smoking medium in strength.

2nd 1/3
It now finishes with a bit of pepper and earth on the finish, continuing with the dark chocolate and coffee and staying very smooth.


Final 1/3
The leather and earth increase and the burn is staying very straight, never really was a full strength cigar to me
There's a lot of hype about this cigar and consumers have high anticipation and willingness to get one to try.

The cigar is constructed very well but there are so many better cigars out there for so much less out of you pocket.

Not to say that the cigar isn’t good, it’s just way over price along with the value, flavor ratio.

Smoke time: 1hr 35min
Score: 7.9 out of 10
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Genesis The Project by Ramon Bueso
$3. - $5.20
Country: Honduras
Wrapper: Connecticut Broadleaf Maduro

Prelight: Hay, cherries, bread dough, solidly built cigar with some weight to it.

1st 1/3
Creamy coffee flavor, light spice, leather, roasted nuts, earth, nutmeg, light black licorice, medium body.
Draw a little tight, nice start though.

2nd 1/3
Perfect straight burn line, creamy sweet now, followed by the coffee flavor, light spice, leather, roasted nuts, earth, nutmeg, light black licorice and sweet, the flavors work together completely for this cigar very well.

Draw has opened up now.....
This is turning out to be a surprising stick and even right off the UPS truck, time in the humidor is going to be a treat.

Final 1/3
Love the light black licorice and sweetness here, all of the above notes still with the symphony in 7 part harmony, getting a Vitamin N buzz now.

The addition of the Connecticut Broadleaf Maduro wrapper is key here I think, my favorite wrapper for sure.

Smoke time: 1hr 20 min
Score: 9.5 out of 10 (not a 10 because I wanted it to go on)

equetefue
02-18-2014, 12:27 PM
B l a s p h e m y !!!

:r

CoffeeWaterBeer
02-18-2014, 12:53 PM
Nice written review Daniel. I enjoy Ligas but I'm with you as far as cost/enjoyment goes. Mr Bueso makes a wonderful stick.

big_jaygee
02-18-2014, 12:57 PM
As somebody who has never had a No. 9 I can't compare the two, but I will say the Genesis is a great stick. Nice review Daniel :tu

Outlaw God
02-18-2014, 01:04 PM
Nice written review Daniel. I enjoy Ligas but I'm with you as far as cost/enjoyment goes. Mr Bueso makes a wonderful stick.

Thanks brother for the support and not feeling alone, if you stick a #9 in my face I wouldn't turn it down but love the Genesis as a everyday :dr

jsnake
02-18-2014, 02:16 PM
Great review and info. A buddy sent me two of those and two of his other cigars. Not sure which one because I have never heard of Bueso until recently. Now I can't wait to fire one up. He told me he really likes those cigars but your review filled in the blanks for me. Thanks!

Porch Dweller
02-18-2014, 03:21 PM
I'm with you, O.G. I can get three GTPs for the price of one #9 and I enjoy them more. That's just hard to beat.

alfredo_buscatti
02-18-2014, 04:16 PM
I've not smoked either. Thank you for writing about the Bueso.

bighairlogo
02-18-2014, 04:47 PM
I personally don't think they taste very similar to each other, but I like them both.
But on the note of similar bands
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q481/bighairlogo/IMG_2862-300x200_zpsf781f916.jpg (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/bighairlogo/media/IMG_2862-300x200_zpsf781f916.jpg.html)
Thanks for the review

kelmac07
02-18-2014, 05:37 PM
Respectfully have to disagree with you on this one Dan. IMHO the No. 9 is, by far, a superior stick to the Genesis The Project. :2

Outlaw God
02-18-2014, 05:39 PM
Respectfully have to disagree with you on this one Dan. IMHO the No. 9 is, by far, a superior stick to the Genesis The Project. :2
Thanks Mac you know your stuff but when short on cash the Genesis dose make me smile :D

kelmac07
02-18-2014, 05:43 PM
Thanks Mac you know your stuff but when short on cash the Genesis dose make me smile :D

Oh I gotcha...by no means is the Genesis The Project a bad stick. An AWESOME value for the money. But if you put one of each in front of me, I'm smoking the No. 9 every day of the week and twice on Sundays. :D

thecatch83
02-18-2014, 06:07 PM
The balance and complexity of the 9 is on a different level, but it is hard to deny the QPR factor of the Genesis!

maninblack
02-18-2014, 06:18 PM
I'm a Liga whore but love me some Buesos. Great smoke for my money.

Oshay
09-24-2014, 06:14 PM
:tuOh I gotcha...by no means is the Genesis The Project a bad stick. An AWESOME value for the money. But if you put one of each in front of me, I'm smoking the No. 9 every day of the week and twice on Sundays. :D

Outlaw God
09-24-2014, 06:16 PM
:tu

But pay for it yourself everyday and you'll pick the Genesis The Project every time and have a fatter wallet :tu

TJtorpedo
09-24-2014, 07:00 PM
I do enjoy the #9 as an occasional indulgence, but can't be a GTP as a $3 cigar. And if you can manage to rest them for at least a few months, they get oh so much better.

Outlaw God
09-24-2014, 07:03 PM
I do enjoy the #9 as an occasional indulgence, but can't be a GTP as a $3 cigar. And if you can manage to rest them for at least a few months, they get oh so much better.

$3 for the Muy Bueso, I'll take a box

MarkinAZ
09-25-2014, 10:23 PM
Nice review from earlier in the year Daniel:tu

Outlaw God
09-26-2014, 11:44 AM
Nice review from earlier in the year Daniel:tu

That's kind of you brother, have a great weekend

timj219
09-26-2014, 06:16 PM
I do love me some Liga 9. They are a bit pricey but well worth the money IMO. Still, I'm always a sucker for a good value so thanks for the heads up I'm going to give these Genesis a shot. Thanks for the review.

Big Maduro
09-28-2014, 11:37 PM
I love the Liga, but my wallet won't let me smoke them often. I just smoked my first Genesis this weekend. Very nice cigar. Much the same profile you described. Nice review even if I missed it earlier.

longknocker
09-29-2014, 04:15 AM
Oh, Great, Another Stick I Need To Try.:r:D I Always Thought The Liga #9's Were The Ultimate Stick.:dr

dave
09-29-2014, 08:20 AM
I came across some Genesis robs in the bottom of the cooler last week. Not sure how old, but more than a year, I'm certain. They were much better than I'd remembered. Much smoother than when I'd first received them.
Coincidentally, I had an LP9 toro a week ago that was at least two years old. It was flat a bit boring, to tell the truth. I wouldn't have thought to compare the two before just now reading this thread, but, honestly, the Genesis was a more satisfying cigar. I won't say that price wouldn't have been in the back of my mind and affected my assessment, but...it is now something for me to think about. I still have at least one of each from those same vintages - I may have to contemplatively smoke them back to back....or together?....one of these days.

Flynnster
09-29-2014, 09:12 AM
Just bid on a few of these based on this review!

CubanStocked
09-30-2014, 10:28 AM
I literally bought about 4 boxes of liga 9 double coronas last week...surprised to see them at my cigar shop...let alone 4 boxes. I shot in the dark about buying all 4 (thinking he wouldnt) but he was open to the idea and did the sale! Paid $325/box which is cheaper then anywhere else i've found (everyone online is usually out of stock) ...only problem is, Its still a pricey stick to smoke everyday...tryna pawn some off to my fellow BOTL...shouldnt be hard

czerbe
09-30-2014, 11:15 AM
Everybody is entitled to their own Wrong opinions Daniel LOL I kid to be honest the #9 isn't my favorite LP stick I love the T52 over the 9. I do really like the Genesis. Nice topic debate!

ApexAZ
09-30-2014, 01:03 PM
I've never had a Genesis. I love me some no. 9 though. I must try! Thanks for posting your review!

weems
10-22-2014, 08:18 PM
I have about 4 of these left, never had a #9 but probably one of my favorite smokes.

badbriar
10-23-2014, 08:12 PM
IMHO, the No.9 is a much superior cigar in every way. Kinda like comparing the Nica Libre to a Padron... Not even close. Still, the Genesis and Nica Libre are good cigars in their own right! :2

baust55
10-24-2014, 09:50 AM
I am really CHEAP ! EEERR ummm I mean THRIFTY ! I will probably never get to taste a Liga#9 but I did score about six promotional samplers from CI that had Ramon Bueso Genesis The Project toros in them so they were $1 a stick .............tasty Thrifty .

SCORE !

dave
10-24-2014, 09:52 AM
I have about 4 of these left, never had a #9 but probably one of my favorite smokes.

What?

weems
10-24-2014, 02:00 PM
What?

lol, I meant to say never had a #9, but the genesis is one of my favorite smokes. :sl

longknocker
10-30-2014, 03:08 AM
Smoked The GTP James (Porch Dweller) Bombed Me With Because Of This Thread Several Days Ago. Thanks, Brother!:D:tu I Was Very Impressed!:dr I Thought The GTP Was Smoother With More "Spice" Than The LP's I Have Smoked. The LP's Have More Pepper If You Like That Profile. I Will Definitely Put The GTP's In My Rotation! Thanks For All The Input, My Friends!:tu

Porch Dweller
10-30-2014, 06:13 AM
:tu

rr_coyote
11-01-2014, 08:59 PM
Haven't had a #9 yet, but I also love me a Genesis. Awesome awesome cheap stick. I've heard them to be compared more to an Undercrown.

Xolotal Mungin
11-04-2014, 09:20 PM
Yup to the Genesis. Best value ever. Rich, dense stick. And they do age well. Only smoked 2 #9s, so can't really comment but I did wonder if they had gotten kind of flat from being hoarded too long.