Barclays Premier League 2013/14 Banter

[ColdCuts]

THE NEW SEASON IS NEARLY UPON US!

Opening day: Saturday, 17 August, 2013

:noon :noon :noon :noon

While kicking around Cigar Asylum I've noticed the avatars, the sig lines, etc. I know there are some fútbol fans on here. I figured I'd start a thread where we could chat about it. Who do you support? What are your thoughts on, or hopes for your club in the coming season? Let's air it all here. Rumors, grudges, all of it. It's getting close! Can't wait! :D

[markem]

Oh heck, let's start an MSL, UEFA, Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Mexicali and all the rest banter thread as well.

Sorry, but the number of multiple highly specific threads that people are starting here when one generic thread would do, well, it's starting to be annoying. Nothing against you, you just happened to be the straw that met my camel's back.

[ColdCuts]

The number of multiple highly specific threads that people are starting here when one generic thread would do, well, it's starting to be annoying.
Wow. Way to suck the fun out of a thing. You think all soccer leagues and competitions should be covered in one thread? That's nuts.

[CamoFlogged]

Oh heck, let's start an MSL, UEFA, Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Mexicali and all the rest banter thread as well.

Sorry, but the number of multiple highly specific threads that people are starting here when one generic thread would do, well, it's starting to be annoying. Nothing against you, you just happened to be the straw that met my camel's back.

Did he break a forum rule? No? Then why stress about it? Don't read the flipping thread if it ain't in your wheelhouse.

[Gabe215]

Love this thread, DIE HARD LIVERPOOL FAN!!! Have actually been thinking about starting an EPL fantasy league. YNWA

[ColdCuts]

Gabe, thanks for getting us back on track -- Liverpool fan notwithstanding :p

As for my club, it'll be fascinating to see how Manchester United performs under David Moyes. We knew Sir Alex would one day go, but it's strange now that he's gone. Seemed he'd always be leading us to victory. And, of course, I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for us MU fans. Far from it. To be sure, we've had our share of success. And, for the time being anyway, it's still Ferguson's team. But, it's hard to imagine Moyes -- or anybody -- could ever achieve anything like what Sir Alex has done. David Moyes sure has his work cut out for him. Jeez Louise, can you imagine the pressure?? His predacessor was, few would argue, the best manager in the history of the sport. Those're the biggest boots to fill. Of all time. Ever. Obviously, as a United fan, I'm on the edge of my seat. Here's hoping Moyes continues our tradition of winning.

[Sweet_Leaf_PDX]

I am an Everton FC fan and don't have the highest hopes for this season. I'll be happy to see them in the middle of the table.

It will be interesting to see Moyes at the helm of MU. I think the success he's had at Everton, given their roster and financial status, proves that he is a great manager. No doubt that Ferguson was was the best, but I think MU is in good hands.

[Gabe215]

Dave with a squad like that, Cmon man Moyes will do well!! Until my reds stomp a hole in them!!

[4WheelVFR]

I have no clue how Chelsea will do this season. Should be interesting with the new manager, but besides that I have no idea what's going on with the club right now. I haven't paid attention to football news in quite a while, so I have no idea what's going on lol.
On a related note, I'll be in St Louis to see the Real Madrid v Inter Milan match. Seats are about 6 rows off the pitch. :)

[DMK]

Man U For EVER !!:tu

Looking forward to the season openers.

[ColdCuts]

Dave with a squad like that, Cmon man Moyes will do well!! Until my reds stomp a hole in them!!

Haha. Well, you're gonna get a crack at it very early on...

Sunday, September 1, 2013
8:30 AM ET | Anfield

LIVERPOOL
VS
MANCHESTER UNITED

We shall see. We shall see. :D

[pnoon]

I'll be dialed in for that one.

[ColdCuts]

I have no clue how Chelsea will do this season. Should be interesting with the new manager, but besides that I have no idea what's going on with the club right now. I haven't paid attention to football news in quite a while, so I have no idea what's going on lol.
On a related note, I'll be in St Louis to see the Real Madrid v Inter Milan match. Seats are about 6 rows off the pitch. :)
With José Mourinho back in charge, Chelsea will do well. Mourinho is such a fascinating character. His ego is unparalleled. But he's got the talent, and the silverware, to back it up. Will be fun to watch. :2

ManUtd go head to head with Chelsea Monday, August 26th, 3:00 PM ET at Old Trafford. :bx

[4WheelVFR]

ManUtd go head to head with Chelsea Monday, August 26th, 3:00 PM ET at Old Trafford. :bx

-(P

[ColdCuts]

I'll be dialed in for that one.

THERE he is! I hoped a few mentions of Liverpool would bring pnoon around. :tu

[ColdCuts]

I have now painstakingly entered each and every league match, with converted kickoff time, into the calendar on my phone. That was super tedious, but necessary. Why is there no app for that? :hm Now, there's a million-dollar idea right there.

[Gabe215]

Less than 7 days
YNWA

[pnoon]

Less than 7 days
YNWA

:tu

Hopefully an easy opener with Stoke

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Curious to hear how everyone became a fan of their respective clubs....

[yourchoice]

Curious to hear how everyone became a fan of their respective clubs....

I'm curious as well...

[Chainsaw13]

I became a fan of Chelsea when I stumbled across a game of there's a few years ago. Can't remember who they were playing. The style of play at the time reminded me very much of the Redwings style of play in hockey. Lots of passes to setup the odd man situation for a quality scoring chance. Been a fan ever since.

[4WheelVFR]

When I knew absolutely nothing about soccer many years ago I watched a game on TV that was very interesting. It was a red team and a blue team and that's about all I knew lol. I did recognize the red team as Man U because everyone has heard of them. The blue team was winning so I decided that was my team from then on, even if they were not very good lol. That blue team happened to be Chelsea and I've followed them ever since. :)

[Gabe215]

A childhood friend of mine was a huge Liverpool fan because his father was from there. I always HATED "soccer" thought it was a girly sport, huge baseball fan and kinda followed American "football"! Then about 6 years ago another friend who is also a Liverpool fan had me over to watch a game (vs Gunners) at his house and the rest was history. 45 minutes non stop play, 20 minute break then another 45 minutes of fast tempo play, no commercials, no time outs, no 2 minute warnings. Now I can't watch American sports. One day I will take my family to Anfield (their stadium) to watch Liverpool. To all who dont follow the EPL YoTube the KOP singing You'll Never Walk Alone and you will understand the passion of being a LFC fan!

[pnoon]

A childhood friend of mine was a huge Liverpool fan because his father was from there. I always HATED "soccer" thought it was a girly sport, huge baseball fan and kinda followed American "football"! Then about 6 years ago another friend who is also a Liverpool fan had me over to watch a game (vs Gunners) at his house and the rest was history. 45 minutes non stop play, 20 minute break then another 45 minutes of fast tempo play, no commercials, no time outs, no 2 minute warnings. Now I can't watch American sports. One day I will take my family to Anfield (their stadium) to watch Liverpool. To all who dont follow the EPL YoTube the KOP singing You'll Never Walk Alone and you will understand the passion of being a LFC fan!

American sports have nowhere near the passion that football has worldwide.

When I started following English football, Liverpool had the history, tradition, and quality of top club. That and the link to the roots of rock and roll have made me a fan - even though recent years have been heartbreaking.

[Gabe215]

Peter just remember- Tho' your dreams be tossed and blown.Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart, and you'll never walk alone,

[pnoon]

Peter just remember- Tho' your dreams be tossed and blown.Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart, and you'll never walk alone,

:)

[4WheelVFR]

......45 minutes non stop play, 20 minute break then another 45 minutes of fast tempo play, no commercials, no time outs, no 2 minute warnings. Now I can't watch American sports.....

This is my take as well. It's just not the same. I still enjoy hockey and occasionally college hoops, but english/european football is where it's at for me. I'm also a big Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka fan and just got to see them play and score in person when they came to St. Louis over the weekend. Awesome times.
I don't know what you LFC folks did to Torres before he came to Chelsea, but he definitely needs his mojo back. I loved watching Torres play for LFC and I still think he's a fantastic talent. Chelsea just isn't a match for him maybe.

[pnoon]

This is my take as well. It's just not the same. I still enjoy hockey and occasionally college hoops, but english/european football is where it's at for me. I'm also a big Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka fan and just got to see them play and score in person when they came to St. Louis over the weekend. Awesome times.
I don't know what you LFC folks did to Torres before he came to Chelsea, but he definitely needs his mojo back. I loved watching Torres play for LFC and I still think he's a fantastic talent. Chelsea just isn't a match for him maybe.

He lost his mojo at LFC. Which is why they let home go.
Great talent. But as in any sport, a great talent is nothing if it doesn't mesh with the team.

[4WheelVFR]

Any LFC peeps watch the Being Liverpool series? I'm not familiar with the inner workings of the club for sure, but I thought it was an awesome series. It gave some great insight into the "inner sanctum" of the club and also gave a glimpse into the lives of some of the players. If you haven't seen it, I think they still show it on Fox Soccer or Fox Soccer HD.

[4WheelVFR]

Great talent. But as in any sport, a great talent is nothing if it doesn't mesh with the team.

Right you are. Should be interesting to see what Mourinho does with him and see if any changes can bring that brilliance back. Chelsea definitely needs a talent like he showed at Liverpool once upon a time.

[Gabe215]

I've watched bits and pieces of it but didn't actually sit down and watch it! Agree with Peter about Torres, and the funny thing was when they signed Carroll and Suarez I was way more pumped about having Andy! Remember following him the year before and thinking man this dude is a talent, especially him getting a hat trick against LFC and the commentator saying Andy Carroll can do no wrong this year. So- yes a player must mesh with the club!

[GTsetGO]

http://www.psp-themes.net/data/media/9/Man%20U.jpg



/endthread


:D

[ColdCuts]

Curious to hear how everyone became a fan of their respective clubs....
What a great great question! I'd love to hear everyone's story as well. :tu

I came to support Manchester United in about as natural a way as any American can come to support a Premiership club. I played soccer from childhood through high school so I always had an appreciation for the sport. But my ties to Manchester United began quite by happenstance. In around 2000, Manchester United worked out a marketing deal with the Yankees Entertainment and Sports (YES) Network, which then began airing United's weekly Premier League matches on tape-delay. One Saturday I stumbled upon a broadcast. I didn't know who or what I was looking at, but I was instantly attracted to their attacking style and their winning ways. I tuned in again the following weekend, and so began my ritual of watching MU week in and week out. Before long, I knew the players and something of the club's character. I didn't yet know their well-decorated history, but I knew they were a joy to watch. Naturally, I began to develop an emotional stake in their results. You watch the same club week after week, it happens.

I guess you could say I caught the futbol bug. I wanted to experience matches in person. So when I could, I began attending Major League Soccer matches at Giants Stadium. The NY/NJ MetroStars had a young upstart goalkeeper, a New Jersey native named Tim Howard. Of course, he's famous now and enjoying great success at Everton, but back then he was just a local guy at an average club in a small-money league who was beginning to garner some attention. He began receiving regular call-ups to the U.S. Men's National Team. And he continued to excel. Jump forward to 2003, and hometown hero Tim Howard signed with the mighty Manchester United. MLS's Tim Howard, "Timmy," a local guy I'd met and chatted with, had signed with the famed Red Devils. This was awesome! Awesome for all concerned parties. And it further strengthened my allegiance to United.

As if that weren't enough to make me forever United, Manchester United then announced, as a tuneup ahead of the approaching Premier League season, that they would do a summer tour of the United States, playing a handful of top European clubs, in a handful of major American cities, Giants Stadium being one of them. So, I was present, and with great seats, to see Manchester United play Juventus on July 31, 2003 when Tim Howard made his debut for the club. It was a packed house: 79,005. The atmosphere in the stadium was something I'll always remember. It was absolutely buzzing. Like a massive beehive. The match was buzzing too. Exhibition match or not, both clubs came to play. United won that contest in grand fashion, 4-1 with beautiful and varied goals from four United legends: Giggs, Scholes, Van Nistelrooy, and Solskjaer.

The following summer, MU returned to Giants Stadium for another pre-season warmup after signing yet another young American, defender Jonathan Spector. Again, I was there. This time, United lost a very entertaining match to A.C. Milan in penalties. By this point, my commitment to United was unshakable. How could it not be after all of that magic just kind of fell in my lap? A couple years later I would find myself standing among fellow Manchester United supporters in the away end at Stamford Bridge, but that's a story for another time. I haven't yet made it to Old Trafford. Not yet.

I'm sure that was more than anyone wanted to know. But you asked, and I was happy to tell it. :)

[Chainsaw13]

Great story Dave. Glad to see there's more and more support for futbol on this side of the pond. Looking forward to this weeks opening matches. I'll be watching while working on a server migration.

[ColdCuts]

Great story Dave. Glad to see there's more and more support for futbol on this side of the pond. Looking forward to this weeks opening matches. I'll be watching while working on a server migration.
Thanks, Bob. I only wish I could've told that story over a cigar. One of these days, I'm gonna find a place to enjoy a cigar with the match. Even if it means somehow hauling my own flatscreen outside. Wouldn't that be the ultimate, a great cigar while watching the match? *sigh*

I'll be watching also. You can bet on that. :po

P.S. That was a thing of beauty from Rob. Post #32 in case anybody missed it. :hy

[Gabe215]

They don't have TV's at your lcoal cigar bar? Mine didn't have FSC but I would always watch the ESPN2 games there

[ColdCuts]

They don't have TV's at your lcoal cigar bar?

No TVs at the cigar bars I know of in the city. And, sadly, no cigar bars at all here in Brooklyn. :td

There must be a place or two in Manhattan to catch a match and a smoke and I just don't know about it, right? Anybody know? If so, please clue me in. If not, that's an untapped market...

:hm You thinkin' what I'm thinkin', Gabe? Perhaps it's time you and I opened a 'soccer & cigars bar' in Brooklyn. Could you imagine? Dream job, no? Think there's any money in it? I guess all we'd need are a business plan, a business license, some investors, a nice space, and great inventory. What else?

I'm only half joking. It does sound like the job to end all jobs.*

*At risk of straying off topic. :p

[Gabe215]

We'd need girls in lingerie as cocktail waitresses/servers and excellent music, I'm down brother, Im only 2 hours away from NYC. If you come up with the investors I'm in! But for real tho if ur ever in Philly or or next time I'm in NYC I will hit you up, I'm in Hoboken all the time I have family there! Hmmm maybe Reds v Red Devils? Post game go to Davidoff NYC or my local B&M for leather sofas and the game?

Back to this thread tho 1 day and a wake up!!

[ColdCuts]

We'd need girls in lingerie as cocktail waitresses/servers and excellent music.

Now THAT'S my kind of business plan! We'll have to name the shop, "Heaven." :D

You know, you seem like a really likable guy, Gabe. I mean, apart from the Liverpool thing. ;)

YES! Super pumped for Saturday! I don't imagine Stoke will give your boys much trouble. And mine damn well collect all three from Swansea. :2

[pnoon]

You know, you seem like a really likable guy, Gabe. I mean, apart from the Liverpool thing. ;)



Watch it there, Bub! :D

A humble request to all who post here. Many times I DVR the matches to watch later in the weekend. Please be discreet when discussing the recent matches. After 24-48 hours, it's all good.

[4WheelVFR]

Watch it there, Bub! :D

A humble request to all who post here. Many times I DVR the matches to watch later in the weekend. Please be discreet when discussing the recent matches. After 24-48 hours, it's all good.

Great idea! I usually am not awake during these matches so DVR it is for me.

[Gabe215]

Yea I always think to myself when I wake up at 7am EST what it's like for fans over on the west coast, even the late games for u guys are at 11am!

[Chainsaw13]

I guess I'm weird (I've been tested). i can't watch matches on DVR. For some reason knowing that it's been recorded, I"ll find myself fast forwarding through it. Watching live, I know I can't do that, so I tend to be more engaged. But i will respect those that can and not post results.

[Gabe215]

I'm all for it, I watch live but can wait to post "banter" on here. But why don't we agree on a time frame where we can start talking about scores on here? 24hours after the match is over?

[pnoon]

I'm all for it, I watch live but can wait to post "banter" on here. But why don't we agree on a time frame where we can start talking about scores on here? 24hours after the match is over?

I'd say 48 hours.

Tomorrow is a perfect example. I won't be able to watch tomorrow morning's match until Sunday evening.

But if the group agrees on 24, I'm o.k. with that. I'll just avoid the thread until I can watch the match.

[ColdCuts]

I'll have to sit on my hands, but I'm ok with radio silence until Monday morning.

[pnoon]

I suppose the other option is for all of us to NOT read the thread until our television viewing is complete.

[4WheelVFR]

I suppose the other option is for all of us to NOT read the thread until our television viewing is complete.

I'm ok with that too. I'm used to purposely not talking to anyone or even turning on my computer until the match is over lol.

[GTsetGO]

Watch it there, Bub! :D

A humble request to all who post here. Many times I DVR the matches to watch later in the weekend. Please be discreet when discussing the recent matches. After 24-48 hours, it's all good.

i will be sure to try and not make any snide remarks about liverpool losing another match as soon as it happens. ;)

[pnoon]

i will be sure to try and not make any snide remarks about liverpool losing another match as soon as it happens. ;)

http://dumbclan.co.uk/misc/banstick_lg.jpg

[Chainsaw13]

He's like a cross between Grizzly Adams and Steven Segal.

[4WheelVFR]

i will be sure to try and not make any snide remarks about liverpool losing another match as soon as it happens. ;)

:hy

[ColdCuts]

Well, no surprises for week one except for Arsenal's loss to Villa. And from what I'm reading, many would clam that result is no surprise either considering how little Wenger has done in the way of summer signings.

The badly depleted Gunners have a Champions League match on Wednesday too. That's probably not going to go well for them. Looks like it's gonna get worse for Arsenal before it gets better.

My boys, on the other hand, are off to a flying start. :noon And City's complete dismantling of Newcastle was bothersome. Just cuz I don't like to see City start so well. :tg

[pnoon]

I'm happy with 3 points but just 1-nil at home vs. Stoke is not exactly a strong showing.

[Gabe215]

Yea Peter but look at Spurs, same score to Crystal Palace! Chelsea only 2-0 over Hull. Only the ffirst week. But also Reds needs a BIG signing, looks like Willian will not be coming our way.

[Chainsaw13]

Does the head coach also have the GM duties with the major (or not so major) soccer clubs? Or is it more like American football, where the coach has to work with what the GM gives him?

[Gabe215]

Steven Gerard has scored more Goals against AV than any other team. Paul Lambert was very impressive against Arsenal and Chelsea! Saturday will not be easy but his players will be tired!

[GTsetGO]

another good week so far in the EPL. some surprises.

any of you chelsea fans want to put a 5'er on the line for monday's game?

[ColdCuts]

any of you chelsea fans want to put a 5'er on the line for monday's game?

Nice one, Rob. So, where are the Chelsea fans??

[4WheelVFR]

another good week so far in the EPL. some surprises.

any of you chelsea fans want to put a 5'er on the line for monday's game?

I'll bite. Not sure how confident I am, but I'm down for a 5'er wager.:D

[ColdCuts]

Watching the pre-game! :po

[GTsetGO]

I'll bite. Not sure how confident I am, but I'm down for a 5'er wager.:D

IT'S ONNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!


Watching the pre-game! :po

and as pnoon says, I am DVR'ing it right now at home. please don't spoil whether or not i won some sticks until tomorrow. :D

[4WheelVFR]

and as pnoon says, I am DVR'ing it right now at home. please don't spoil whether or not i won some sticks until tomorrow. :D

I really wanna spoil it.:D

[GTsetGO]

DRAW!!!!!

great game. both defenses played phenomenally

[ColdCuts]

I think splitting the points was a fair result, but I'm disappointed. It was a home match. When you're one of the Big Four you expect to win your home matches. We're Manchester United. If we don't collect all three points at home, that ought to be disappointing, no? Now, should we have been given the penalty?


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/davidhudec/lampardhandball.gif (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/davidhudec/media/lampardhandball.gif.html)


Obviously, I'm biased. So ignore me if you'd like. But I say it's a penalty. I know Lampard is only a short distance from Cleverley so that's the 'ball played the arm' argument. However, it's apparent that Lampard prevented a clear goal-scoring opportunity with his outstretched arm inside the 18-yard box. We'll never know anything of Lampard's intent. We can't know the man's mind. But the fact is, he did jump into the path of the ball with his arm outstretched and he blocked the shot. I'd have given it. Would you?

It says in The Telegraph that Moyes is asking for clarification (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10267459/David-Moyes-wants-action-on-handball-ruling-after-Manchester-United-denied-penalty-against-Chelsea.html). The issue, for me, is consistency. Either it is a penalty, or it is not a penalty, forever. Not sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't. Anyone care to chime in?

Here's more from BBC Sport: What is 'deliberate' handball? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm) :rlz

Finally, since the match ended in a draw, are you guys going to 'split the points' too? You could mail each other two sticks. :p

In other news, Liverpool, at Anfield, on my horizon. :su

[4WheelVFR]

Finally, since the match ended in a draw, are you guys going to 'split the points' too? You could mail each other two sticks. :p


That's what I was wondering....do we send each other a fiver now?....:su

As for the handball, I think it very easily could've been given, seeing other handballs that have been called. Maybe the ref let it slide, taking the distance from the kicker and the distance of his arm from his body into consideration. You guys should've had Mark Clattenburg in your lineup again. That would've fixed it.;)

[pnoon]

That's what I was wondering....do we send each other a fiver now?....:su

As for the handball, I think it very easily could've been given, seeing other handballs that have been called. Maybe the ref let it slide, taking the distance from the kicker and the distance of his arm from his body into consideration. You guys should've had Mark Clattenburg in your lineup again. That would've fixed it.;)

I've been a referee for 12 years and an instructor/assessor for 6 so I have a bit of knowledge in this area.

First, let me say that having been an official, I appreciate and respect how difficult a job it is - in any sport. At the top level, the play moves extremely fast and officials don't have replay or time to deliberate. So I tend to give referees the benefit of the doubt most of the time.

Viewing the posted video, I can see a legitimate plea for a PK. However, consider this. The defender was no more than 2-3 yards when the ball was struck. Also, consider that when a player jumps/leaps, it is almost impossible to keep their hands at their side. I don't see where the arm was extended in an unnatural fashion and even at the highest level, players flinch. So I have no problem with the non-call. That being said, I would not criticize the referee if he HAD called the PK. A bit harsh, maybe. But again, I would support his decision. A call close enough to legitimately go either way.






Besides, it was ManEffingU. So I don't feel bad. :D
;s

[4WheelVFR]

So I have no problem with the non-call. That being said, I would not criticize the referee if he HAD called the PK. A bit harsh, maybe. But again, I would support his decision. A call close enough to legitimately go either way.






Besides, it was ManEffingU. So I don't feel bad. :D
;s

I agree with all of the above. Especially the last bit lol.:D Even being a Chelsea fan, I wouldn't have blamed the ref for a bad call had he called it a PK. A bit harsh maybe, but like yourself, I think it could've legitimately gone either way.

[ColdCuts]

Besides, it was ManEffingU. So I don't feel bad. :D

I agree with all of the above. :D

:hy

Yes! Now we got banter! :D

Peter, I have to say, that was a well-reasoned, level-headed contribution to the thread, which I'm sure everyone agrees is your hallmark here on Cigar Asylum...

You're certain you're a referee? :lr

Honestly, Peter, it's been years since you told me back on CS, so I completely forgot you're a referee! Here's a little joke I think everyone will enjoy, but it's especially for you, my fave Liverpool fan...

The Ref and the Funeral Procession

In the middle of the match, the referee suddenly blows his whistle to stop play when he sees a long funeral procession on the road that runs alongside the field. He closes his eyes and bows his head.

'Wow,' said the yellow-carded striker. 'That is the most thoughtful and touching thing I've ever seen. You truly are a kind man. I'll never think badly of a referee again.'

The referee replies, 'Thanks son, we were married nearly 30 years.'

[ColdCuts]

All joking aside, I have the utmost respect for referees. That is a very difficult, thankless job. My hat is off to them.

Regardless of what club they support. ;)

[pnoon]

All joking aside, I have the utmost respect for referees. That is a very difficult, thankless job. My hat is off to them.

Regardless of what club they support. ;)

:)

Gotta enjoy Liverpool being ahead of ManU in the table. I know. It's early in the season and it won't last long but still . . .

[GTsetGO]

Alright. Same thing this weekend.

Any of you fans that unfortunately follow liverpool want to put a fiver on this weekends match?
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[pnoon]

Alright. Same thing this weekend.

Any of you fans that unfortunately follow liverpool want to put a fiver on this weekends match?
Posted via Mobile Device

My heart says yes. My brain says no. ;s

[ColdCuts]

Really looking forward to this one. This time, unfortunately, I have to DVR the match. So I'm under self-imposed radio silence until Sunday night. Until then, this is your pal, ColdCuts, singing...

:banger Glory, glory, Man United,
:banger Glory, glory, Man United,
:banger Glory, glory, Man United,
:banger And the reds go marching on, on, on...

[Gabe215]

Can't hold it any more... Should've known David Moyes has NEVER won a game at Anfield, Reds dominated game, Gerard telling Van Persie to "pipe down you f*cking prick"- PRICELESS, BR becoming a KOP legend, would've liked a higher score, Sterling almost got one in at the end! Walk On Boys!! Swansea you're next!!

[pnoon]

Can't hold it any more... Should've known David Moyes has NEVER won a game at Anfield, Reds dominated game, Gerard telling Van Persie to "pipe down you f*cking prick"- PRICELESS, BR becoming a KOP legend, would've liked a higher score, Sterling almost got one in at the end! Walk On Boys!! Swansea you're next!!

They're playing well. Plus they signed 3 more quality players.
Gotta like things going forward.

[ColdCuts]

:fp

[pnoon]

:cl

[GTsetGO]

damn phone updated me on the score, so i didn't even waste the time of watching the game on the DVR.

oh well. get the crap out now.

[ColdCuts]

Had we not gotten all three points at home against Palace, I'd have really begun to worry. Beautifully executed free-kick from Rooney.

Also, while some referees are remembered for their game-changing wrong calls, I'll remember this game's official, Jon Moss, for making four very difficult correct calls -- even though 3/4 did not go United's way. :salute:

Hear that, pnoon? Props to the ref! :D

[pnoon]

Had we not gotten all three points at home against Palace, I'd have really begun to worry. Beautifully executed free-kick from Rooney.

Also, while some referees are remembered for their game-changing wrong calls, I'll remember this game's official, Jon Moss, for making four very difficult correct calls -- even though 3/4 did not go United's way. :salute:

Hear that, pnoon? Props to the ref! :D

Duly noted. :)

I am recording the Liverpool/Swansea match today.
Radio silence until tomorrow, please.

[GTsetGO]

fine i won't tell you that .................................................. ..................


great win for MU yesterday.

[ColdCuts]

I am recording the Liverpool/Swansea match today...
*Ahem* Surely, Peter, you must have some thoughts on this one.

I must confess, I've only seen the highlights, but here's a talking point: Shelvey.

I hardly know what to say. Anyone care to comment?

[pnoon]

*Ahem* Surely, Peter, you must have some thoughts on this one.

I must confess, I've only seen the highlights, but here's a talking point: Shelvey.

I hardly know what to say. Anyone care to comment?

Shelvey was the pivotal player for both teams. ;)
Liverpool was smart to let him go.

Brilliant header to assist on Michu's goal.

Coutinho's injury looks like he'll miss some playing time. Sakho looked good. Moses played well. As did Skrtel.

Should have taken 3 points but I'll settle for the point.

[Gabe215]

Jonjo sucks he was a bumbling idiot and always will be, was a waste of our money. Aspas is getting in my nerves also, can't pass can't create plays reminds of Borini, we need to start Sterling every game or put him in at 60th minute at the latest.

[ColdCuts]

BIG one for my lads tomorrow. :po

[ColdCuts]

Well, that's not the way I would've written it. :eek:

Now Liverpool on Wednesday?? (I know this is the BPL thread, but still.)

Can we please, please, get all three points on Saturday versus West Brom? :tt
:emo2004

[Blak Smyth]

BIG one for my lads tomorrow. :po

That was hard to watch...

[Gabe215]

Enjoyed every minute of the Manchester Darby!! Bad loss for my Reds on Satuday, but on a more positive note SUAREZ IS BACK!!!!! let's see if he shakes Evra's hand on wednesday!

[Gabe215]

Didn't there used to be a lot of Man U fans on this thread? Could've sworn it was started by one! HAHAHA LFC!!!! YNWA!!!!

[pnoon]

Didn't there used to be a lot of Man U fans on this thread? Could've sworn it was started by one! HAHAHA LFC!!!! YNWA!!!!

:dance:

[Blak Smyth]

SUAREZ IS BACK!!!!!

What an amazing comeback game he had on Sunday!

[ColdCuts]

Didn't there used to be a lot of Man U fans on this thread? Could've sworn it was started by one! HAHAHA LFC!!!! YNWA!!!!

Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you're enjoying yourself, for now. I'm happy for ya. :rolleyes:

I'll just say it's a good thing for you and your lot that this thread is Premier League Banter, not League Cup Banter or Champions League Banter. :tg

That's all I have.

[pnoon]

Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you're enjoying yourself, for now. I'm happy for ya. :rolleyes:

I'll just say it's a good thing for you and your lot that this thread is Premier League Banter, not League Cup Banter or Champions League Banter. :tg

That's all I have.

:wo

[Gabe215]

I know it's a bummer that Liverpool have 5 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TROPHIES, 2 more than your red devils! Get on our level! We are still the most decorated Club in all European Football!!

[pnoon]

I know it's a bummer that Liverpool have 5 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TROPHIES, 2 more than your red devils! Get on our level! We are still the most decorated Club in all European Football!!

Easy, Bro.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict the response - "what have you won lately?"

Our lads have a way to go to get back to "Big 4" status.

[pnoon]

BPL is off this weekend due to World Cip qualifying.

US has Jamaica and Honduaras has Costa Rica. Both games are small potatoes compared to the Mexico / Panama match this evening. That is a crucial match for both teams.

:usa

[GTsetGO]

yeah, i might have to try and stay up to watch the Mexico game.

US already having qualified, eh. i will watch it though.

[pnoon]

yeah, i might have to try and stay up to watch the Mexico game.

US already having qualified, eh. i will watch it though.

A benefit of being on the west coast. MEX/PAN starts at 6:30pm local time.

[Gabe215]

Hate to see Martin Skrtel play poorly but... he had an own goal- Greece for the Win!! Hellas!!

[ColdCuts]

Great result for USA considering they had nothing to play for -- except the shirt, of course -- fielding a largely inexperienced squad, not playing particularly well, yet still managing a 2-0 win.

:usa

Looking forward to getting back to BPL action, despite the wonky start from my boys.

[Gabe215]

Dave- that Adnan Januzaj was pretty impressive and is very young, will be pretty interesting (and scary) to see him grow as a player this season!

[ColdCuts]

:fp More dropped points. At home, no less.

At least Liverpool drew as well. Small consolation, that.

[pnoon]

:fp More dropped points. At home, no less.

At least Liverpool drew as well. Small consolation, that.

No kidding. More than half the game with a man advantage. 'Pool dominated play yet gave up a goal before coming back to earn the draw. Plenty of late chances for both sides to snag the 3 points.

[Gabe215]

Aspas out for a while! Means he will be replaced in January (thank God) and Coutinho back next week!

[pnoon]

Aspas out for a while! Means he will be replaced in January (thank God) and Coutinho back next week!

Aspas contributes nothing.
Coutinho's return will be huge.

[Gabe215]

Bump- YNWA, Chelsea v City game was one hell of a game, Torres got his first goal of the premier league this year, one third what Suarez scored on Saturday, not trying to sound like a complete douche but how do you think he feels, at Liverpool he was a hero and adored, yes he plays champs league and and won it with them but still he's outshined by so many players there and will most likely get shipped back to Athletico at some point soon!should have never left, I'm glad he did for obvious reasons, but he shouldn't have made the move!

[pnoon]

Tough week for the Reds.

Arsenal is playing really well. I still can't stand Arse-hole Wenger. He is humble when he wins but Arsene Whiner when he doesn't.

[Gabe215]

His French accent pisses me off the most! Let's pray for a united-gunners tie this weekend!!

[ColdCuts]

Let's pray for a united-gunners tie this weekend!!Nope. :D

[pnoon]

Merseyside derby tomorrow.
:wo

[Gabe215]

Everton- Always in our shadow
YNWA

[Gabe215]

Simply pathetic!!! No Sturridge and this is what happens, LFC need to spend big in January!!

[ColdCuts]

LFC need to spend big in January!!

Liverpool aren't the only ones who could stand to do some spending.

[Gabe215]

Still pissed about hull city but holy sh*t

http://youtu.be/WTiIZBCN72U

[pnoon]

Still pissed about hull city but holy sh*t

http://youtu.be/WTiIZBCN72U

If that is the video of Suarez' first goal yesterday, you ain't kidding!

[Gabe215]

All 4 of his goals + Sterlings, his third was sick too!!

[Gabe215]

This season is awesome, the teams at the top of the table are so diverse finally a change from the past few years! Nice to see Everton, Southampton, and Newcastle all fighting for a top spot! And obviously very excited to see Reds in 2nd!

[pnoon]

This season is awesome, the teams at the top of the table are so diverse finally a change from the past few years! Nice to see Everton, Southampton, and Newcastle all fighting for a top spot! And obviously very excited to see Reds in 2nd!

Agreed.
And good to see ManU down to earth.

[ColdCuts]

And good to see ManU down to earth.
:tg

We're finding ways to win games in Champions League at least. Hopefully we'll make some quality signings next month. I'm forever an optimist when it comes to my club. But I can see the writing on the wall. It's probably too late for us in the league this season.

But, hey, all United fans knew this day would eventually come. It's a time of transition for us. Only a fool would've expected Moyes to pickup where Fergie left off without a stumble. I believe my Reds will eventually be back on top. Just not as soon as I'd like.

[Gabe215]

BIG game on Sunday, very nervous! But will set the pace for the next few games No Sturridge and Bo Captain Fantastic!! If we win this it will not only boost morale but also bring in better talent next month, looks like Alberto is out and unfortunately Aspas has to stay due to lack of attacking options unless we can bring some in ( was reading Real Betsis and Valencia want him) would love to loan him out or get rid of him all together!! As for Skrtel I don't know what to say 2 OG's in last 3 games! I've loved him in the past but if Rafa still wants him in Napoli cash in and rebuff midfield ( Drexler) and an EXPERIENCED AND PROVEN attacker! Champs league 2014 come on Reds- Walk ON!!!!

[Gabe215]

Oh what a victory, Paulinho def deserved a red, his leg curled right into Suarez after he missed the ball with malicious intent! Jon Flanagan got his first goal at such a young age and as a defender, also as a born and raised Scouse, for the team he grew up supporting Great to see that!! YNWA! Excited to see what happens in Jan transfer window! Champs league here we come!! Walk on boys!!

[pnoon]

Oh what a victory, Paulinho def deserved a red, his leg curled right into Suarez after he missed the ball with malicious intent! Jon Flanagan got his first goal at such a young age and as a defender, also as a born and raised Scouse, for the team he grew up supporting Great to see that!! YNWA! Excited to see what happens in Jan transfer window! Champs league here we come!! Walk on boys!!

An impressive win. Even though Spurs are a mess.
Paulinho deserves more than a red. Vicious tackle is an understatement. And if Suarez had been the perp, folks would be screaming for a long-term ban.

FIFA wants to clean up the game. Punishment for crap like this should be severe.
:2

[Gabe215]

Very true, he might get a decent punishment because he is Latin American, if FIFA wants to clean up everything like the big push for anti-racism/anti-semitism like they had when Euro Cup was in very racist Ukraine it should change how it handles things!! Suarez got a huge ban and fine for the- his word against yours incident with Evra. And John Terry white English Captain gets NOTHING for calling Ferdinand racial slurs, caught on video and still gets absolutely nothing! Now that was a disgrace! Anyway YNWA

[Gabe215]

NEW LONG TERM CONTRACT!!

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a588/GabeP215/861EF61D-A830-45AC-9DF3-79A5BB307F6A_zpsbdjr1gi6.jpg

[Gabe215]

Boxing Day games tomorrow, wish I didn't have to work, but still grateful I have a job, thank God for DVR!

[pnoon]

Boxing Day games tomorrow, wish I didn't have to work, but still grateful I have a job, thank God for DVR!

Same here. Full slate tomorrow and a big game for the Reds at Man City.

[Gabe215]

Bump YNWA

[Gabe215]

What is going on with our transfer policy, big blow losing Salah, pathetic we've been trying since December and Chelsea come in and sign him in 24 hours! We need new talent pronto. If it truly is FSG fault they need to go and we need someone willing to spend when we need to! I feel like Liverpool is only a side project for them and all they care about is the Red Sox this is bull sh*t!!! Man U was allotted £130M, we can't sign someone for 12?

[Chainsaw13]

Today's Stoke City/Man U match is pretty entertaining.

[Gabe215]

Love the score, Tottenham tie is great too! Big game for us tomorrow there will be a 4 point gap between us and Everton which we need have some tough games ahead of us Gunners, Spurs, and United! YNWA!

Peter 2 things- What are your thoughts about FSG/ Ian Ayre not closing one deal in January? I'm beyond disgusted! Enrique, Lucas, Agger, and Johnson all injured, Gerard love him but he's an injury liability and Allen blows!! How can you not sign one decent (strong) Midfielder?

2- I guess well see tomorrow but how about the debacle between S&S at the end of Merseyside Darby? Looked like Suarez wanted to strangle him hope that was cleared in the locker room!

[pnoon]

Love the score, Tottenham tie is great too! Big game for us tomorrow there will be a 4 point gap between us and Everton which we need have some tough games ahead of us Gunners, Spurs, and United! YNWA!

Peter 2 things- What are your thoughts about FSG/ Ian Ayre not closing one deal in January? I'm beyond disgusted! Enrique, Lucas, Agger, and Johnson all injured, Gerard love him but he's an injury liability and Allen blows!! How can you not sign one decent (strong) Midfielder?

2- I guess well see tomorrow but how about the debacle between S&S at the end of Merseyside Darby? Looked like Suarez wanted to strangle him hope that was cleared in the locker room!
I am surprised at the lack of any signing.

Didn't see/notice the "debacle" of which you speak.

[GTsetGO]

Today's Stoke City/Man U match is pretty entertaining.

i wasn't a big fan of the outcome.

[pnoon]

Didn't get a chance to see or record Liverpool/Arsenal this morning (4:30am local time).

[GTsetGO]

Didn't get a chance to see or record Liverpool/Arsenal this morning (4:30am local time).

that's a shame brah. first 20 minutes were awesome for the fans of a certain team.

[Gabe215]

Great results all around for LFC, love Man U not winning always brings a smile to my face, City drawing with Norwich, wish it was a draw but if either team was to win today I would've preferred Spurs, didn't really expect Chelsea to lose, but obviously best of all was the spanking LFC put on the Gunners!!!!!

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[swingerofbirches]

I was shocked and thrilled to see FFC get a draw against ManU!!! #coyw #stayingup

[Gabe215]

Great comeback for the reds, Coutinho's goal was sick. Another winless game for United!:D

[swingerofbirches]

Your joy is my sorrow as, with yesterday's loss, Fulham remain bottom of the table. :(

[Gabe215]

Sorry to hear that! But at the same time I'm very glad to have someone on this thread that isn't a huge fan if a well decorated team! Have you ever been to Craven Cottage? My brother in law lived in London for two years and lived in FFC territory, also went Stamford bridge, upton Park, and the Emerites, and said the environment at the Cottage was INSANE! Cheers and good luck

[swingerofbirches]

Nope I've never been. :(
I started following FFC when McBride went over. I've been around for enough of these relegation battles. The Great Escape was amazing but we had Roy for that. Jol destroyed the team and now it'll be a miracle if we can stay up.

Chelsea :fl

[Gabe215]

My boys squeaked a win in today 11 points clear of United on table :D, and 6 points separating us from Spurs keeping us in a champions league spot!! All I can say is this!- I hated Jonjo Shelvey at his stay at Liverpool and he scored a VERY important goal and it was a FANTASTIC goal his low key celebration was a beyond class act and was even more of a class act to see the Liverpool Faithful stand up and clap for his actions and fire cracker goal is why I love this game!

[pnoon]

My boys squeaked a win in today 11 points clear of United on table :D, and 6 points separating us from Spurs keeping us in a champions league spot!! All I can say is this!- I hated Jonjo Shelvey at his stay at Liverpool and he scored a VERY important goal and it was a FANTASTIC goal his low key celebration was a beyond class act and was even more of a class act to see the Liverpool Faithful stand up and clap for his actions and fire cracker goal is why I love this game!
:sl



A humble request to all who post here. Many times I DVR the matches to watch later in the weekend. Please be discreet when discussing the recent matches. After 24-48 hours, it's all good.

[Gabe215]

My apologies

[pnoon]

My apologies

:tu

[Gabe215]

Huge games tomorrow!!!

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[pnoon]

Hope Liverpool kicks their butt.

[Gabe215]

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[pnoon]

Where are all the ManU fans? :D

[Gabe215]

I was wondering the same thing! Nothing to say? love how the tables have turned! They fall into the Liverpool fans of the last 6 years! The old saying of "next year!"

[Gabe215]

Paging united fans, paging united fans!! Haha as much as as I hate DeGea he has been your most valuable player! Could've been 4-0 in the Darby today if he didn't have that fantastic save, and he had an amazing save vs Suarez when we beat you!
Good luck vs Bayern München!!

[Gabe215]

Look who's on top of the table!

Total for the year: Liverpool-9, Spurs-0

[GTsetGO]

If united can't win the table, i would rather have liverpool up there. god knows i hate man city and chelsea.

[pnoon]

Big game for the Reds on Sunday. I hope they crush City.

[Toombes]

Haven't been able to follow the league as much as I wanted this season, but I have to stand by Manchester United. It's been strange without Sir Alex, but all good things must come to an end.

[Gabe215]

Very big game!! I'm on vacation at my parents house in Key West FL, they live right next to the Shana Key Irish Pub, they open at 8:00 am and show ALL EPL games! I know where I'll be tomorrow morning:tu! YNWA, And never forget the 96!

[GTsetGO]

Big game for the Reds on Sunday. I hope they crush City.

I will agree with your statement.

[Gabe215]

Having trouble posting pics, wanted to post one of an emotional Stevie G after the game. He was saying "don't let this (feeling) go" in his huddle after the game, This will be the first time in his career that LFC win the title! Great win for my boys! Skrtel is on fire (has more goals than Torres this year :tu ). sterling showed great composure, patience and confidence with his goal. And Coutinho's goal was sheer precision!! On to Norwich will be tough although Suarez averages 3+ goals vs them because if they lose they are relegated so they will be fighting for dear life! YNWA!!

[Gabe215]

Fabio Borini just scored the most important goal in his LFC life (he IS still a Red)
YNWA!!!!!!!

[pnoon]

Fabio Borini just scored the most important goal in his LFC life (he IS still a Red)
YNWA!!!!!!!
A big win for Sunderland.
Mourning whines almost as much as Arsene Wenger.

[Gabe215]

Let's hope we get 5 points clear tomorrow YNWA!!!!!!

[pnoon]

Let's hope we get 5 points clear tomorrow YNWA!!!!!!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/a9sFd3Ennhs/hqdefault.jpg

[GTsetGO]

Well. Moyes is out at man u. He was sacked earlier today.
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[Gabe215]

Damn I liked him hahahaha, I heard Giggs is interim (interesting!) and Van Gaal will most likely take over next year.

[CRIMPS]

Well. Moyes is out at man u. He was sacked earlier today.
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Thankfully.

[DMK]

And Suarez CRIES!!!
Good on ya Crystal Palace!!!

[pnoon]

And Suarez CRIES!!!
Good on ya Crystal Palace!!!

Thanks for spoiling it.
:fu2

[DMK]

;s:sad

[Gabe215]

As all of you know I am a die hard Liverpool fanatic but all I can say is great game Palace! Well deserved draw. Liverpool relaxed to much, Rogers should've put Agger in the 70th minute. Suarez was being a ***** (I'm sorry) he had a great game and tied the record for most goals in one season. Second place is worlds apart from where they were last year and am thrilled about seeing them in Champions league!! YNWA Boys!! We can win it for the skipper next year!

[Gabe215]

C'Mon Andy Carroll!!! This season depends on a Liverpool and a West Ham win!!!!! Walk on and Hopefully they'll be blowing Bubbles at the Etihad!!

[ColdCuts]

Well. Moyes is out at man u. He was sacked earlier today.

Thankfully.

Moyes did so much worse than I ever imagined he'd do. :hn No one fears ManUtd anymore. Can hardly wait to see how it goes under Van Gaal.

[Gabe215]

My guess is... They're the new Spurs, champs league every 4 years, YNWA!!!

[GTsetGO]

well crap.

http://redmancunian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/manchester-united-chevrolet-home-shirt.jpg


Chevy?? really. ;)

[markem]

Does anyone have a good source for watching BPL games online? Some games I would like live, but a one or two day delay is fine with me most of the time. I'm too old to remember any spoilers.

We gave up cable TV so now I am stuck. ESPNFC may work, but you never know which games are going to be video streamed and which ones for which their "streaming" means twitter comments. Also, while still a week out, ESPNFC does not list BPL as one of the leagues that they stream.

[GTsetGO]

nbcsports.com

http://fırstrowsports.eu/

[Gabe215]

There is a new EPL 14/15 thread to move your comments questions on!!