In your opinion, what's the most over & under hyped cigar brand/line?

[FUEL]

At the moment whether it is by social media, forums, publications, word of mouth, advertising et al.

Let's take out personal views on the taste, performance or similar for giggles.

Over: Liga Privada by Drew Estate
Under: The Genesis Project

Care to share?

Happy 4th all, stay safe.

-(P
J.

PS - If this is a recent duplicate thread/topic MODs please lock/remove as this was posted from my POS cell and the search feature really does not work. TY.

[BHalbrooks]

I think the Genesis line gets well deserved credit, on here at least. I'm not sure about other sites, or forums.

Overhyped: Ashton (Just isn't for me I guess. Don't get the hype)
Underhyped: I don't think Nicks Stick's get enough credit for delicious super cheap smokes.

:2

[icehog3]

Overhyped: Tatuaje (not they don't have some good lines, just over the top hype).

Underhyped: Esencia ... good stuff, Maynard.

[kelmac07]

Overhyped: Cubans (but that's just my take)

Underhyped: RoMa Craft Tobac (they make some amazing cigars)

[icehog3]

Overhyped: Cubans (but that's just my take)



That horse not dead yet, Mac? :lr :rolleyes:

[kelmac07]

That horse not dead yet, Mac? :lr :rolleyes:

Nope (kicks it one more time). :D

[icehog3]

Nope. :D

One in nine dentists agree with you. :D

[kelmac07]

One in nine dentists agree with you. :D

It's more like 0.5 in nine. :r :r

[mahtofire14]

Overhyped: Montecristo NC's. Not that they get a ton of hype but the name IS the hype. I haven't had too many that I've really enjoyed.

Underhyped: Gispert Maduros........:dr

[CigarNut]

Overhyped: any Opus X
Underhyped: Padron x000 series

[FUEL]

Overhyped: Montecristo NC's. Not that they get a ton of hype but the name IS the hype.

Nice on the Montys, I forgot about them.

[FUEL]

I think the Genesis line gets well deserved credit, on here at least. I'm not sure about other sites, or forums.

Overhyped: Ashton (Just isn't for me I guess. Don't get the hype)
Underhyped: I don't think Nicks Stick's get enough credit for delicious super cheap smokes.

:2

The Genesis here I agree gets it's deserved credit here but on a few other forums and "review sites" it's hardly, if ever mentioned.

The Ashton remark Brian, are you basing that off of personal experience with the brand hence the "Just isn't for me?" statement? Just curious.

:salute:

[TJarv]

I've had several people at my local B&M ask about the Genesis when I smoke them there. Not too many people are familiar with them, unless they frequent CI sites

[big_jaygee]

I've had several people at my local B&M ask about the Genesis when I smoke them there. Not too many people are familiar with them, unless they frequent CI sites

i have only two online retailers for them

CI and Cigars.com

if they were in my b&m i think i would be in trouble

[FUEL]

I've had several people at my local B&M ask about the Genesis when I smoke them there. Not too many people are familiar with them, unless they frequent CI sites

My thoughts were the same Tony.

i have only two online retailers for them

CI and Cigars.com

if they were in my b&m i think i would be in trouble

My thoughts are also the same Jason however they would be at least, at least double in price here in MN with the new tax laws that went in on July 1.

[pektel]

Overhyped- maduros

Under hyped- hdm du depute

[jjirons69]

Over: Tatuaje

Under: Jose L. Peidra

[kelmac07]

Overhyped- maduros

Touche Peter. :r :r

[maninblack]

I'm with Mac. Cubans are overhyped. Gimme my maduros. Underhyped......definitely Romacrafts. But I'm glad they are that way. Excellent quality boutique smokes.

[czerbe]

Overhyped: While I love a Tat as much as the next guy... they are my overhyped
Underhyped: Nearly anything from the House of Emilio... AF1 AF2 both knockout sticks

[The Poet]

I'd agree with CigarNut about Opus being overhyped. Good? OK, yeah. THAT good? Not in my opinion.

Underhyped is a matter of where you're getting your "hype". On this board, I'd have to say the JR Ultimate line. They are a superior cigar at a price even I can afford . . . occasionally, anyway.

[rennD]

Overhyped: Tatuaje (not they don't have some good lines, just over the top hype).


This.

Underhyped: IMO...RG :)

[MajorCaptSilly]

Over - Drew Estate (I find their unflavored stuff to be "okay")

Under - Roma Craft (Those Cro Mags are delicious!)


MCS

[Porch Dweller]

Over: NC Cohibas. IMNSHO the sole reason they command the price they do is because of their name.

Under: another vote for Cromagnon

[ysr_racer]

Under hyped: Anything from Casa Fernandez. I love these:

http://www.bestcigarprices.com/shopcontent/images/Casfern_Aganorsa_Rob.jpg

[AdamJoshua]

Over - Drew Estates in general, small production runs for a couple of their lines creating demand and hype.

Under - I'll get back to you on this one

[shopkins82]

Over: Anything Gurkha... seems like the whole brand is driven purely by hype. As prevalent as they are in the catalogs, I never hear much good to say about them around here.

Under: Anything 5 Vegas... for the price (even without a sale or big discount), I've liked almost every 5 Vegas stick I've smoked, from the Gold all the way to Cask Strength and AAA. I'm normally a mild-medium and infused kind of guy, but I'm always pleasantly surprised with almost any 5 Vegas stick I smoke, regardless of flavor profile or strength. Even the few that I haven't LOVED (Gold Maduro comes to mind) haven't been bad either, just not my cup of tea.

[icehog3]

I'm with Peter. Maduros are overhyped. Gimme my Cubans. :r

[shilala]

Over: Tatuaje

Under: Jose L. Peidra
I can't say I'm shocked, but that is exactly what I was going to say.

[BHalbrooks]

The Genesis here I agree gets it's deserved credit here but on a few other forums and "review sites" it's hardly, if ever mentioned.

The Ashton remark Brian, are you basing that off of personal experience with the brand hence the "Just isn't for me?" statement? Just curious.

:salute:

Yea, I wouldn't know about other sites. This is, and will remain, the only Cigar related site I go to, besides to buy Cigars.

With the Ashton's I've had, I wasn't really blown away. I think on here they have a pretty high reputation generally. For me, however, they aren't for me.

[pektel]

Touche Peter. :r :r

:tu had to say it. :)

[mk05]

Overhyped: Cohiba
Underhyped: ERdM

[bobarian]

Over-Cuban cigars
Under-Cuban cigars

[Jon11]

Over-Cuban cigars
Under-Cuban cigars

Well said!-(P

[jjirons69]

I can't say I'm shocked, but that is exactly what I was going to say.

Great minds...

[czerbe]

Over-Cuban cigars
Under-Cuban cigars



That is a wise wise man right there. (bows head) :pi

[Blak Smyth]

Over Hyped: Viaje, Tatuaje, Gurkha, Nub, Padron, OpusX

Under Hyped: Cheap CCs (JLPs, Quinteros, RGs, etc...)

[FUEL]

Over Hyped: Viaje, Tatuaje, Nub

Hi BS. I could not agree more with those, ESPECIALLY Viaje. I never got the hype around them. Thanks for posting.

[maninblack]

I'm with Peter. Maduros are overhyped. Gimme my Cubans. :r

Nooooooooooooo.................:D

[icehog3]

Nooooooooooooo.................:D

:noon ;s

[pektel]

Hi BS. I could not agree more with those, ESPECIALLY Viaje. I never got the hype around them. Thanks for posting.

You must never have had the skull and bones daisy cutter, original release mystery, or the zombie. Or the exclusivo lancero. I can't say much about their regular production stuff.

[MUNKY]

RomaCraft - definitely way under hyped and a delicious smoke
Ghurka - overhyped - meh just meh and seriously how many new smokes can you have that all just are meh at best.

(buddy of mine just raved and raved about Ghurk) then one day snooped in my locker and grabbed a "knuckle dragger" and asked what's this plain little thing? That's 3.5 inches of stfu and have a real smoke I replied! We just split a box purchase of cranium lol!

[MOGator2000]

Over: NC Cohiba (considered top of the line smoke by your avg joe)
Under: inexpensive B&M house blends

[Porch Dweller]

RomaCraft - definitely way under hyped and a delicious smoke
Ghurka - overhyped - meh just meh and seriously how many new smokes can you have that all just are meh at best.

(buddy of mine just raved and raved about Ghurk) then one day snooped in my locker and grabbed a "knuckle dragger" and asked what's this plain little thing? That's 3.5 inches of stfu and have a real smoke I replied! We just split a box purchase of cranium lol!

:lr Awesome response!

[Blak Smyth]

You must never have had the skull and bones daisy cutter, original release mystery, or the zombie. Or the exclusivo lancero. I can't say much about their regular production stuff.

Pretty sure I have had all of the above (Or most) and was super excited about them when I lit up and afterward was super dissapointed as I could smoke similar profiles at a fraction of the price and not HTF stuff.
I look at this stuff now and just roll my eyes... But if YOU like it, smoke it!

Most dissapointing cigar I can recall was the Holiday Blend. Smoked it on Christmas a couple years ago and was like WTF. Oh and a Liga Privada T52 Pig I smoked about a month ago. I know my palate has changed over the last couple years but I couldn't even smoke the T52 pig to the half way point, yuck. Tasted like a deer terd that fell into a Floridian swamp.

[pektel]

Agree with you on the T52. I've had a couple (corona doble, and a pig), didn't really care for either.

The Mystery was freaking EXCELLENT the following summer after it was released. The pepper had toned WAY down, and there was this awesome, woody cinnamon flavor that I haven't tasted in another cigar.

I still have 3 or so Daisy Cutters, haven't smoked one in a grip, but again, with some time they were amazing. I'm not a fan of S&B ROTT.

[oooo35980]

Over - Ghurka is the easy answer. Other than that it would have to be Tatuaje. I haven't exactly been blown away by the ccs I've had, but with so many cc devotees there has to be something to them other than hype right? Maybe?

Under - Hard to say, maybe I don't get out enough but I haven't seen a lot of hype except for few specific brands, which would make everything else under hyped in comparison.

[czerbe]

Most dissapointing cigar I can recall was the Holiday Blend.


100% agree, biggest disappointment in a cigar I have had in years.... for the price they are and at least in my area unable to find I rarely ever pick up any of Andre's sticks they just don't float my boat... at all... like ever... ;s

[OHMatt]

Overhyped: limited edition cigars, especially one-runs. You hear me Andre' and Pete? It got old 5 years ago..

Underhyped: Tabacalera Tropical/Casa Fernandez

[T.G]

Over - every cigar I don't like.
Under - every cigar I like.

Or maybe it's the other way around, I forget.

[Sweet_Leaf_PDX]

Over - Drew Estate. Particularly the Liga Privadas. Cigar Aficionado just named them the "hottest cigar" of 2013.

Under - Lots to choose from here, but I will go with... Nica Libre. Very reasonably priced, and I have enjoyed everyone one that I have ever smoked.

[drjammer]

Overhyped: limited edition cigars, especially one-runs. You hear me Andre' and Pete? It got old 5 years ago..

Underhyped: Tabacalera Tropical/Casa Fernandez

+1 They are making some very good sticks these days :tu

[CoffeeWaterBeer]

I haven't tried the full line but I think Tatuaje is a bit over-hyped. Not a bad smoke by any stretch, just not mind blowing.Also, I'm throwing Foundry out there. It's rare I strongly dislike a cigar but these were plain out nasty.

Underrated... hmm, I might throw Illusione out there as I don't see a lot of marketing hype out there for the line.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Over: maduros
Under: JL's

[FUEL]

Overhyped: limited edition cigars, especially one-runs. You hear me Andre' and Pete? It got old 5 years ago..


Lord if this is not the truth. In particular Andre IMO. Sorry, not chasing these down anymore when there are plenty of other options readily available.

[688sonarmen]

Over; Liga Privada ( I fully understand that most of it is due to how great a person JD is, but this is about the cigars)

Under; Roma Craft, Curivari, Illusione.

[Hippi3Slay3r]

Over - Another vote for maduros (with clarification regarding the palette destroying powerhouses that seem to wash away any level of complexity to a stick)

Under - Curivari cigars

[Dunkel]

Ha ha There was a similar thread awhile back and people were shocked and amazed that I said Drew Estates were overhyped! Oh how times have changed.

Overhyped: Tatuaje, Drew Estates, and Gurkha
Underhyped: Oliva (except Nubs) and Joya de Nicaragua

[OHMatt]

Lord if this is not the truth. In particular Andre IMO. Sorry, not chasing these down anymore when there are plenty of other options readily available.

I think you are right about in particular Andre'. It is getting harder and harder to chase 'em down because retailers are dropping them. The thing is his 3 core line sticks don't sell and the stores have to by them to get the LEs - they end up taking a loss on the cores in order to stock the LEs.. The core lines are a decent cigar... for half their price. There are many great cigars (Casa Fernandez) which also rolled at Fabrica de Tabacos Raices Cubana that cost less and are easy to find. Good consistent core lines vs a hard to find LE is a no brainer for me.

At the same time, Andre isn't asking people to pay to join some club to get the privilege to buy LEs either. Pete, I'll smoke dog rockets before that ever happens. Thank goodness Pete has some really swell core lines; Ill grab the petit cazadore over the limited release and know its going to be a great smoke. Speaking of Raices, Ernesto Padilla has some good cigars coming out of there as well, the Artemis is another underrated cigar.

On a side note, thanks to all of the high recommendations for Roma Craft; I went online and found that there is a retailer that will be a 30 minute drive from my work. I'll be taking a long lunch next week to grab some.. -(P

[Buckeye Jack]

Over - LE and RE CC's
Under - The Reg Production CC's they discontinue....until they are discontinued :)

[icehog3]

I haven't tried the full line but I think Tatuaje is a bit over-hyped.

No one has. :r

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

No one has. :r

not true. If you've had one, you've had em all:D

[badbriar]

Overhyped: Alec Bradleyy Tempus
Under: PDR Capa Maduro & Oscuro

[Chuck N]

Over- Opus x
Under- Regius

Imo
I think the Regius is one of the best non cuban cigars that is as close to Cuban that you can get.

[Jon11]

Over: Most CC's
Under: Illusione Epernays

[dijit]

Over: Ghurka, many of the Opus X, and some CC's

Under: Bahia Gold, Sosa, Some others that I like