View Full Version : Cigar health issues...do you guys ever worry about it???
Just kinda curious. I was a casual cig smoker in my drinking days and was about a pack to a pack and a quarter smoker for 1.5 years before I quit. I am a recovering alcoholic (sober 9 months on the 8th) but thankfully I was a short term "hard drinker" for only 16 months or so I know some potential long term health issues are a maybe a result of those two. The quitting booze helped with the memory so it might sound odd, I'm not worried about adverse affects of the drinking as long as I remain sober, which I never plan to drink again. Or at least until I'm 70 and can be the old creepy guy at the club ogling the college girls lmao.
As the title asks, do you ever think about the consequences or the possibility / potential of the consequences of long term cigar smoking or suffered any thus far in your stogie career? Curious from the perspective of those that just mouth the smoke and those that retro-hale as well. When I started learning to retro-hale it opened up a whole new dimension so admittedly I have read not to do it consistently but on a stick say the size of a Undercrown Corona Viva! I retro a good 1/3rd of it. I can smoke a La Flor Dominican Double Ligero Digger on an empty stomach and not get a nic buzz and retro a good 3" of that 8 1/2" x 60 RG stick if that says anything.
In-between quitting smoking and picking up cigars again, I went for 1.5 years with no nicotine with the exception of last June when I was in LA for the Kings vs. Devils Stanley Cup games 3 & 4. I thought I'm on vacation, one pack won't hurt. I had two cigs and I thought I was going to have to go to the ER as my chest felt like an elephant was sitting on it or both my lungs collapsed. From that day on I knew / know I'll never smoke another cig again so I don't worry about a nic addiction from cigars.
My quantity has dropped of SIGNIFICANTLY since my humis decided to grow wings at 50mph in my catastrophic moving disaster and I moved to a "soft crash" place until I get back on my feet again that is not herf friendly. So went from about 2-3 a day (so up to 21 a week) to now maybe if I am lucky 2-4 a week.
Thoughts???
-(P
J.
icehog3
06-02-2013, 01:10 AM
The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know. :)
The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know. :)Tom, how old yee be?
icehog3
06-02-2013, 01:25 AM
Tom, how old yee be?
Old enough to know better, James. :lr
Old enough to know better, James. :lrlmao, go to bed ya ole cranky bastardo!
Night Sir.
J.-(P
Porch Dweller
06-02-2013, 05:25 AM
Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey.
Nope. As Iron Maiden sang in some song some time ago, "As soon as you're born you're dying". Might as well have some enjoyment on the journey.
Wow I have not hear Iron Maiden I ages!! I suppose and Idon't remember who originated the line, "It's burn out than to fade away"
J.
68TriShield
06-02-2013, 06:39 AM
Too many other things will kill me long before the cigars.So the short answer is no.
bighairlogo
06-02-2013, 06:49 AM
Wow I have not hear Iron Maiden I ages!! I suppose and Idon't remember who originated the line, "It's burn out than to fade away"
J.
"It's better to burn out than to fade away"
Neil young sang it, Curt Cobain made it infamous
ApexAZ
06-02-2013, 12:51 PM
I smoke 2 or 3 sticks per day and this concerns me a little. It seems like there just isn't a lot of data compared to cigarettes.
The most immediate health issues I have concerning cigars are my allergies. They certainly don't help.
blugill
06-02-2013, 01:02 PM
Tell you what I know after six years of cigar smoking on a regular basis, my stress melts away. I find calm and peace and in this crazy and upside down world that is priceless.
emopunker2004
06-02-2013, 01:27 PM
Nope. I do what I want!
RWhisenand
06-02-2013, 02:09 PM
Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her.
We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway.:D
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blugill
06-02-2013, 02:18 PM
Just for my own curiosity I've asked both of my past two doctors about cigar smoking, without inhaling. First one told me that there was nothing I was doing to my health, the second one gave me a lecture about tobacco use. I stopped going to her.
We partake in many more dangerous activities to worry about cigars. Once when my wife and I were BS-ing about cigars and health she mentioned that Fidel has lived a very long life, as did God, well George Burns anyway.:D
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And Winston Churchill, he drank quite a bit and smoked like a chimney.
mosesbotbol
06-02-2013, 02:56 PM
Only you can no when your cigar smoking goes beyond a relaxing past time to something else... Tobacco use is addicting and if you have tendencies towards addiciton, you have to be aware of what how often you do everyting.
Weelok
06-02-2013, 03:21 PM
I am more concerned about how many cigars I buy as opposed to how many I smoke. I smoke less then I buy and some cigars are aging as I don't rotate them in for one reason or another and many don't age well.
I smoke outside and smoke about 5 - 7 a week. The data I've seen says that is nothing. But even it is bad life is not worth living if I have to be like Bloomberg.
Big Maduro
06-02-2013, 07:39 PM
I'm with you weelok, about 7or8 a week. I'm 57 and chain smoked camels for 25 years before I quit around three years ago. Least of my worries is a few cigars.
cjhalbrooks
06-02-2013, 08:01 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601244_10151521363548763_1746633413_n.jpg
We all could be doing worse things to our bodies so i think we are safe.
forgop
06-02-2013, 09:31 PM
I'm more worried about the things in our food to include sweeteners that are linked to causing cancer in laboratory animals, genentically modified foods, asbestos, you name it more so than cigars void of the chemicals added to cigarettes that I generally don't inhale into my lungs.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but in every COPD patient I've seen thus far, not a single one was a cigar smoker. I work in a high stress/fast-paced environment. I need outlets to unwind and having a handful of cigars on a weekly basis is going to have far less of an impact on my health than what most everyone eats on a daily basis.
irratebass
06-03-2013, 08:28 AM
Interesting topic that I haven't seen discussed a lot. I had 6 cigars this past Saturday (which is a lot, and I was feeling the effects and even ruined my palette that I couldn't taste a rare cigar my boss threw at me) one of the regulars in the shop is a Doctor, he is the one who tells the family that their loved one is not going to make it or that have already passed (rough job if ya ask me), anyway we were talking and he asked me how many I had that day when I told him his eyes got big and he said that 1 cigar is like 16 cigs or something like that and he added up I had like 68 cigs that day.
He asked me if I ever got a nic buzz, I told him that I did and I was drinking Coke at the moment, he said he would be more concerned if I didn't get a buzz.
Anyway not sure if it's true or not, but cigars like most of you have said relaxes me and makes me less stressful, and I'm not quitting now.
Not worried at all, though I only average about 4 sticks a week.
hotreds
06-03-2013, 08:57 AM
This has actually been discussed a fair amount. Studies(fwiw) have shown that smoking one or two cigars a day WITHOUT INHALING and WITHOUT CHEWING (holding the cigar in your hands rather than mouth between puffs) will do very little to endanger your health. That being said, everyone is different so you pays your money and you takes your chances. I AM concerned about the health risks of smoking, but I DO believe that the positive far outweighs the negative when it comes to lighting up my pipe or my cigar- AND I do follow the "rulz" mentioned above- including NOT holding my pipe in my mouth between puffs either.
icehog3
06-03-2013, 10:00 AM
he said that 1 cigar is like 16 cigs or something like that .
16 cigarettes that you don't inhale.
ArgusP2
06-03-2013, 10:04 AM
No, I don't.
irratebass
06-03-2013, 10:57 AM
16 cigarettes that you don't inhale.
Yeah, I just said really and that I didn't know that and let it go at that, but he is a Dr and he does smoke, so I took at face value.
Porch Dweller
06-03-2013, 11:06 AM
16 cigarettes that you don't inhale.
This. I once had a dentist try to lecture me about smoking; he was stunned when I told him that you don't inhale cigar smoke.
markem
06-03-2013, 11:10 AM
I worry about this constantly. In fact, I worry about this so much that I am a nervous wreck. The only thing that seems to calm me down is a cigar.
Seriously, cigar smokers should all realize that smoking cigars has some (most think vanishingly small) affect on health, but so does yelling at the TV during a baseball/basketball/hockey/football/futball game/match.
No one gets out of this life alive, kids, so come to terms with it and live the life you want, not the life others would have for you.
shilala
06-03-2013, 11:35 AM
Ever since I realized I have an expiration date, I don't really worry about much of anything.
I know if something is right or wrong, whether it's good for me or not. I generally ask others about these sort of things when I'm looking for someone to co-sign my bullsh1t, or help me justify enjoying lots more than is sensibly my due. That's cause I'm a weasel that way. :)
I found that I can smoke a few pc's a day without any negative reactions. Then I couldn't anymore, so I don't smoke that much. Others can tolerate more, and others less. They can safely figure out what's right for them.
Every second we're closer to expiring. Everything we eat, drink, breathe, or do.
If a few cigars bring joy at the end of a hard day's work, there's not a thing wrong with that, no matter what the studies say. The stress from not enjoying those cigars is likely to be equally as unhealthy.
We all need to enjoy ourselves, and there's plenty of good stuff out there to enjoy. Too much of any of it is bad for us, too little is bad for us. I can usually figure out how much is just right when I want a whole lot more, because a whole lot more ruins the fun of it. :tu
AdamJoshua
06-03-2013, 11:49 AM
After 30 some odd years I finally quit smoking, the only reason I quit was because I had the flu and just didn't smoke for 2 weeks, that was it I was done. After that I took up cigars, what can I say I enjoy nicotine, I have no desire to start smoking cigarettes again but I do enjoy my cigars and will keep enjoying them.
My mom was a model of health, never smoked, didn't drink, eat pretty well... she was hit and killed by a car when I was 17, hell she was even on the sidewalk when a piece of #*@* cut the corner going into a parking lot and hit her.
You never know what tomorrow will bring, if anything at all, so enjoy today.
emopunker2004
06-03-2013, 12:03 PM
16 cigarettes that you don't inhale.
Not to mention 16 that are void if all the nasty chemicals added to cigarettes
This has actually been discussed a fair amount. Studies(fwiw) have shown that smoking one or two cigars a day WITHOUT INHALING and WITHOUT CHEWING (holding the cigar in your hands rather than mouth between puffs) will do very little to endanger your health. That being said, everyone is different so you pays your money and you takes your chances. I AM concerned about the health risks of smoking, but I DO believe that the positive far outweighs the negative when it comes to lighting up my pipe or my cigar- AND I do follow the "rulz" mentioned above- including NOT holding my pipe in my mouth between puffs either.
Hugh is right on.
I wrote a cigar related article on a website and received a few "cigars will kill you" replies. Here's a link: http://sharpologist.com/2012/05/relax-and-reflect-a-cigar-primer.html
Here's my reply:
We all know there are some risks involved in smoking or any tobacco use. However, casual cigar smoking is not considered a significant risk. While commenter Dr. K’s link shows some simple truths about tobacco, it contains some misinformation, it’s misleading, and it does not quantify risk. Similarly you could say driving causes millions of deaths per year. While true, this statement does not quantify what the real risks are. In fact it is often difficult to find pertinent data on cigar smoking. Most tobacco studies fail to quantify cigar smoking risks because their results are muddled with cigarette smokers who also smoke cigars, cigar smokers who use smokeless tobacco, or cigar smokers who are heavy alcohol users/abusers. However, one study is different. The National Cancer Institute did a comprehensive study of over 500,000 men studied for 12 years and concluded that smoking up to 1-2 cigars per day failed to show a significantly increased risk of cancer.
You can read the entire study itself here (Page 22 is a summary chart):
http://www.cancercontrol.cancer.gov/tcrb/monographs/9/m9_complete.PDF
Or you can read two written summaries here:
http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/92/4/333.long
http://www.cigargroup.com/faq/health/ncifaq.htm
That said, most cigar smokers I know smoke 1-2 cigars per week. Some are daily smokers but, the majority are not. I may enjoy 3 or 4 in a day but not smoke again for weeks. There is risk in everything from driving to work to eating fast food for lunch. As with many other things in life, moderation is key. I hope those of you interested in cigars will learn something from this guide. For those of you not interested, please do not take it as my recommendation to be like Winston Churchill and smoke a box of cigars a day.
...although, I'm not going to give you a hard time if you want to smoke a box of cigars per day. :ss
You never know what tomorrow will bring, if anything at all, so enjoy today.[/QUOTE]
You hit the nail on the head Adam. My dad enjoyed his cigars and pipes to the fullist for 50 some years, He never had any health issues at all ( he's 73)
3 months ago he went to bed and woke up 1/2 hour later with a massive stroke and now lives his days in a nursing home. So with that being said, enjoy every day like it was your last.
bstarrs
06-03-2013, 07:15 PM
I figure it's much safer than smoking cigarettes so I'm not too worried about it. I've learned that pretty much all indulgences whether it be food, tobacco, alcohol, etc, have a negative impact on health over the long run. Might as well enjoy it while you're here though.
jjirons69
06-03-2013, 07:31 PM
Not at all.
See - George Burns...
ysr_racer
06-04-2013, 07:52 PM
Everybody dies of something, except those people that die of nothing.
Nobody gets out alive.
This. I once had a dentist try to lecture me about smoking; he was stunned when I told him that you don't inhale cigar smoke.
About 98% of the population...-(P
equetefue
06-05-2013, 09:37 AM
aint that the case. This past week alone I had this very same discussion with both my neighbor and a coworker.
Sadden
06-05-2013, 06:35 PM
aint that the case. This past week alone I had this very same discussion with both my neighbor and a coworker.
And myself yesterday with my father.
Blueface
06-05-2013, 06:49 PM
The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know. :)
:tpd:
I always remind folks of Jack Lalanne.
Picture of health.
Lived to 96.
Was a promoter of juicing.
Swam tugging boats in the San Francisco Bay.
Never smoked.
In contrast, George Burns smoked 10-15 cigars DAILY for over 70 years.
Didn't exercise as walking was tough enough but always maintained his wit and lived to be 100.
Go figure.
Since I average one cigar a day, I need to kick it up a notch to reach that 10-15 a day.
Conch Republican
06-05-2013, 06:51 PM
:tpd:
I always remind folks of Jack Lalanne.
Picture of health.
Lived to 96.
Was a promoter of juicing.
Swam tugging boats in the San Francisco Bay.
Never smoked.
In contrast, George Burns smoked 10-15 cigars DAILY for over 70 years.
Didn't exercise as walking was tough enough but always maintained his wit and lived to be 100.
Go figure.
Since I average one cigar a day, I need to kick it up a notch to reach that 10-15 a day.
I do worry about it...and I worry about a LOT of other crap too...so worrying will probably kill me 1st.
Carlos, I have been covering your share and mine lately...you're all set. :tu
crgcpro
06-05-2013, 07:28 PM
Nope something is going to get me eventually. May as well enjoy the ride!
neoflex
06-05-2013, 10:09 PM
The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know. :)
This is my philosophy to a tee. When my wife and I first started getting serious years ago she gave me a little grief about smoking cigars especially since she quit smoking cigarettes because she knew I despised them. I flat out told her that if the cigars were gone that the stress would get me much faster than the cigars ever could. Plus I backed it up by showing her a laundry list of people who smoked 3-5 a day who lived well into their 90's. Needless to say she saw my point and stopped giving me grief about it. Years later my spending on the hobby became an issue but I quickly learned how to mask that so that it didn't look as bad.:D She's even gotten better on that front too so it's been a win win all around but I do make sure I keep most of what I buy quiet and don't flaunt it. No need to re-ignite that issue. I also only smoke between 1 or 2 a week most often so it's not like I am like most cigarette smokers and just mowing down sticks non stop freight train style. For me it's a way to sit and relax and forget about the stresses of everyday life for an hour or two whether it's sitting outside with a stick and a drink or hanging out with the guys smoking and shooting the sh*t. If it ever did become an issue with my health I know I could quit in a heart beat even though I would really miss the social aspect of it but I know I would have the ability to stop cold turkey if needed.
emopunker2004
06-05-2013, 10:54 PM
About 98% of the population...-(P
Yup. My buddy smoked one with me the other night. He usually smokes hookah. He inhaled and coughed something fierce. I said, yeh don't do that :r
Weelok
06-05-2013, 11:59 PM
Yup. My buddy smoked one with me the other night. He usually smokes hookah. He inhaled and coughed something fierce. I said, yeh don't do that :r
Haha!!! My friends that smoke cigarettes don't get cigars at all and a poor Vietamese friend turned green smoking through half a mild cigar before setting it down. I figure he powered through 30 cigarettes in that one setting!!!
shark
06-07-2013, 06:17 PM
I think there are a lot of other factors involved regarding this. You can mention Milton Berle, Winston Churchill, George Burns, but then again there were a couple of other famous cigar smokers who died of oral/throat cancer: Sigmund Freud and Babe Ruth. Freud was very fond of his cocaine along with his cigars, and Ruth drank like a fish. Connection? Maybe. In any case, I don't worry much about it.
Heavy_d
06-09-2013, 08:52 PM
I'm overweight (working on getting that down), work in a fast paced/high stress job (911 dispatcher), have mildly high blood pressure & have a family history of cardiac issues, so my 3-4 cigars a week are the least of my worries. Especially since they help the diet by giving me something else to do when I'm bored besides eating, & seem to help with the stress & BP by giving me a chance to just sit down & relax & unwind. The way I see it, when it's your time, it's your time. Might as well enjoy the life we have.
oooo35980
06-10-2013, 04:30 PM
I can see how a 2 pack a day smoker could greatly increase his risk of cancer and other health problems, but my 2 or 3 cigars a week? The risk increase is probably so small it would have to be measured in fractions of a percent.
NCRadioMan
06-10-2013, 05:22 PM
The original, only non-biased Surgeon General's report from 1964 concluded that cigar smokers mortality rate is virtually the same as a non-smoker. It also concluded that pipe smokers mortality rate was lower than non-smokers.
What is there to be worried about? You have decidedly better chance getting killed in a car wreck on the way to work. Think about that.
organgrinder
06-15-2013, 12:36 AM
Interesting thread I just switched to sticks for this very reason. 3 weeks ago I was a pack a day smoker now I smoke one acid crush (at lunch) and one robusto in the eve. I couldn't feel better no more coughing or hacking brown bits in the morning. I also get an level of enjoyment I had lost a long time ago with cigs
On a long enough timeline the line expectancy for everything goes to zero
The original, only non-biased Surgeon General's report from 1964 concluded that cigar smokers mortality rate is virtually the same as a non-smoker. It also concluded that pipe smokers mortality rate was lower than non-smokers.
What is there to be worried about? You have decidedly better chance getting killed in a car wreck on the way to work. Think about that.
I guess it's not so much a deep worry but I am a member on about 4 other forms and one BOTL posted a thread on how upset he was that due to a non mouth throat or teeth issue his doctor told him had to quit herfing and it got me thinking. That and I was curious about the risks of a smoker who just for lack of a better term just mouths it vs mouthing and retrohaling. When I "learned" how to retrohale a few years back from Doc at Stogie Fresh it was a whole new ball game and I could not imagine smoking without retrohaling.
I hope that makes sense.
J.
CigarSquid
06-16-2013, 09:33 AM
Don't sweat the small things. DO not worry or stress out over things that you have no controll over.
I do not worry. When people tell me that it is just as bad as a cigarette, I say, so be it. It is what I chose and what I live with.
As stated many times in the thread, You are dying soon as you are born. I enjoy what I do and do it with no regrets. I enjoy the life I have and if something strikes me and I have time to help/change my habits, I will adjust to it then.
sammysteve
12-18-2018, 03:02 AM
I loved smoking in my initial years. But later, I tried almost everything to quit. Every time I ended up in tears feeling really depressed. I started investing my time in reading some good blogs on quitting cigarette and it really helped. I hope that this article https://www.everydayhealh.com//guide/ is similarly effective for you, good luck.
hotreds
12-18-2018, 06:35 AM
Hmmmm.........
RUNYYFan
12-18-2018, 07:21 AM
Not really. Living in Joisey, I'm more concerned with the lunatics who think they can drive on the roads. Smoking 1-2 sticks over the weekend, paired with a double of Balvenie 14, gives me the opportunity to relax after a 90 hour week.
icehog3
12-18-2018, 08:59 AM
I loved smoking in my initial years. But later, I tried almost everything to quit. Every time I ended up in tears feeling really depressed. I started investing my time in reading some good blogs on quitting cigarette and it really helped. I hope that this article https://www.everydayhealh.com//guide/ is similarly effective for you, good luck.
Thanks, but we're all on a cigar forum because we're not trying to quit smoking.
Oh, and buh bye.
SmokeyJoe
12-18-2018, 03:20 PM
Thanks, but we're all on a cigar forum because we're not trying to quit smoking.
Oh, and buh bye.
Well done, sir!
Merry Christmas, Tom.
icehog3
12-18-2018, 03:38 PM
Well done, sir!
Merry Christmas, Tom.
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Joe !
Jannarisst
12-26-2018, 02:30 PM
I see no reason to worry. Even if something happens - there is medicine. Many men became impotent and doctors createdviagra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts/). Very soon, we generally will not think about health. Only need will be money
markem
12-26-2018, 02:32 PM
I see no reason to worry. Even if something happens - there is medicine. Many men became impotent and doctors created viagra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts/). Very soon, we generally will not think about health. Only need will be money
And I had such high hope for you not being a bot / spammer.
icehog3
12-26-2018, 02:40 PM
And I had such high hope for you not being a bot / spammer.
Yup, I saw the post in "What Cigar did you smoke" and thought we had a new member.
Not so much . :hn
Love the edit though. :r
markem
12-26-2018, 03:21 PM
Love the edit though. :r
I felt that it kept with the theme.
I see no reason to worry. Even if something happens - there is medicine. Many men became impotent and doctors createdviagra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts/). Very soon, we generally will not think about health. Only need will be money
I will keep this in mind next time I can't get it up while smoking cigar..
markem
12-26-2018, 04:30 PM
I will keep this in mind next time I can't get it up while smoking cigar..
There’s a Demi Tasse joke lurking there ...
There’s a Demi Tasse joke lurking there ...
:noon
hotreds
12-26-2018, 07:16 PM
Demi Moore?
markem
12-26-2018, 07:21 PM
Demi Moore?
Dudley
icehog3
12-26-2018, 11:29 PM
There’s a Demi Tasse joke lurking there ...
Demi Moore?
Dudley
Do-right? https://i.imgur.com/AZjCgmG.jpg
markem
12-27-2018, 08:52 AM
Do-right? https://i.imgur.com/AZjCgmG.jpg
winner, winner, chicken dinner!
FDA study shows no real statistical risk from smoking 1-2 cigars per day. There is a more exhaustive link to this study but it eludes me.
https://www.rstreet.org/2016/08/24/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day/
In a nutshell, smoking 1-2 cigars per day shows no statistically relevant changes in cancer rates. A habit above that, the changes are small but consistent; single digit type percentage increases for those areas you'd expect, mouth/throat.
There are a lot of other variables that play in, including but not limited to: genetics, lifestyle choices like diet/exercise, exposure to other carcinogens at the workplace or home, etc. As with many things in life, moderation tempers most concerns.
Whishor
02-07-2019, 02:36 PM
And I had such high hope for you not being a bot / spammer.
Why spammer if his link is Wikipedia??
markem
02-07-2019, 06:25 PM
Why spammer if his link is Wikipedia??
What you saw wasn't the original URL. If you had clicked on it, you would have seen that. Now I am suspecting that you are a bot, perhaps a lame revenge bot.
AdamJoshua
02-07-2019, 07:48 PM
As long as it's not a Dalek
icehog3
02-08-2019, 07:33 AM
What you saw wasn't the original URL. If you had clicked on it, you would have seen that. Now I am suspecting that you are a bot, perhaps a lame revenge bot.
You're anti-botmetic!
Porch Dweller
02-08-2019, 08:09 AM
Why spammer if his link is Wikipedia??
Your very first post on this forum is to question a moderator's decision? Yeah, not suspicious at all.
icehog3
02-08-2019, 06:28 PM
Your very first post on this forum is to question a moderator's decision? Yeah, not suspicious at all.
Another anti-bot-tite!
Don't worry,Whishor, I got your back.
Er, um.... Whishor. do bots have backs?
markem
02-08-2019, 06:31 PM
Er, um.... Whishor. do bots have backs?
They most certainly do! They’ll show it to you immediately if you try to borrow money. Er, uh, well ... that’s what I heard... :noon
ViktorVega
03-28-2019, 05:34 AM
Despite the fact that I am a fitness professional with great experience and for more than 4 years I have been professionally engaged in cross-jump (https://askyourfitnessquestion.com/survival-and-cross-jump-rope-review) (this is one of the sports for which it is important to have healthy lungs), I think that cigars are my passion. and passion is something that gradually kills a person. I like to smoke cigars after workouts and they really help to relax the muscles and my mind. So far, I do not feel any negative influence on my body, so I think that self-care can compensate for the harm from cigars. The main thing is not to overload your own organism and to approach everything wisely
markem
03-28-2019, 09:41 AM
Despite the fact that I am a fitness professional with great experience and for more than 4 years I have been professionally engaged in cross-jump (https://askyourfitnessquestion.com/survival-and-cross-jump-rope-review) (this is one of the sports for which it is important to have healthy lungs), I think that cigars are my passion. and passion is something that gradually kills a person. I like to smoke cigars after workouts and they really help to relax the muscles and my mind. So far, I do not feel any negative influence on my body, so I think that self-care can compensate for the harm from cigars. The main thing is not to overload your own organism and to approach everything wisely
Hi Victor! Please drop over to the new inmate processing area and let us know a bit more about yourself. Lots of people here from the Denver area as well.
We have many health conscious members and I look forward to you interacting with them all. One of the owners is a black belt in BJJ, which is also good for the lungs.
Johny LaCosta
04-01-2019, 09:24 AM
Despite the fact that I am a fitness professional with great experience and for more than 4 years I have been professionally engaged in cross-jump (https://askyourfitnessquestion.com/survival-and-cross-jump-rope-review) (this is one of the sports for which it is important to have healthy lungs), I think that cigars are my passion. and passion is something that gradually kills a person. I like to smoke cigars after workouts and they really help to relax the muscles and my mind. So far, I do not feel any negative influence on my body, so I think that self-care can compensate for the harm from cigars. The main thing is not to overload your own organism and to approach everything wisely
Hello Victor!
I am also from Denver! What street is your gym? I would come to work out. Do you have these simulators https://askyourfitnessquestion.com/top-5-best-jumping-stilts-on-amazon?
By the way, I agree that sport helps restore after cigars. I smoked 3 years, and last year I am engaged in fitness. I want to say that the changes feel very positive
Niceian8
11-04-2019, 08:13 PM
So I would buy some expensive cigars to reduce frequency of smoking. I can survive few more years in this way.
icehog3
11-04-2019, 10:29 PM
So I would buy some expensive cigars to reduce frequency of smoking. I can survive few more years in this way.
But what if the expensive cigars are so good that you actually increase frequency of smoking? And spend the rent money on stogies?
markem
11-05-2019, 08:03 AM
But what if the expensive cigars are so good that you actually increase frequency of smoking? And spend the rent money on stogies?
happened to me. now I'm homeless and stuck hauling a cabinet humidor on a hand truck and stealing electricity from behind dodgy gas stations.
Oh the humanity!
Steve
11-05-2019, 08:33 AM
happened to me. now I'm homeless and stuck hauling a cabinet humidor on a hand truck and stealing electricity from behind dodgy gas stations.
Oh the humanity!
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