USPS, huh?

[Robulous78]

can anyone tell me what this means?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8744950380_39ca73bf2c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8744950380/) Capture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8744950380/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr


Package being sent to me from Mickey,
Supposed to be here yesterday?, yet arrived this morning 1 hour away in Asheville, and is not out for delivery?

Maybe this is why they are going out of business? or are they intentionally putting yesterdays date for delivery to make the process more frustrating? or am I just impatient?

[Zane]

can anyone tell me what this means?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8744950380_39ca73bf2c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8744950380/) Capture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8744950380/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr


Package being sent to me from Mickey,
Supposed to be here yesterday?, yet arrived this morning 1 hour away in Asheville, and is not out for delivery?

Maybe this is why they are going out of business? or are they intentionally putting yesterdays date for delivery to make the process more frustrating? or am I just impatient?


The expected delivery date is always 2 days from shipment. You just live in the middle of nowhere.

[Robulous78]

then why in a world of wonderful computers is that not reflected in the information... certainly if I live in a black hole they know the package is in bound for a black hole and to add a day or two onto the delivery date... this is why I always end up pissed off at USPS... UPS and DHL, FEDEX all arrive when they say they will arrive... it can't be impossible for them...

[T.G]

Looks like the status just hasn't updated yet. Meh, it happens.

The expected delivery date is just that, expected. It is something that is computed at the time of shipping and is not a guarantee. If you want a guarantee, go pay 2x-6x the price w/ UPS or FedEx.

[Robulous78]

Looks like it was accidentally misrouted. Meh, it happens.

The expected delivery date is just that, expected. It is something that is computed at the time of shipping and is not a guarantee. If you want a guarantee, go pay 2x-6x the price w/ UPS or FedEx.

IDK how they do routing... so I will take your word on it... that aside why is it not updated in the information? I would buy that this is an accident if it didn't happen with, and a am not BSing here, every single package that I have personally tracked...

[pektel]

USPS just has crappy tracking. I've had packages arrive at their destination before they update the system that it's out for delivery.

[Robulous78]

USPS just has crappy tracking. I've had packages arrive at their destination before they update the system that it's out for delivery.

Fingers crossed this is what is happening...

[bobarian]

The number is a Delivery Confirmation number and it is included in the price of a Priority shipment. IT IS NOT A TRACKING NUMBER! There are other delivery services that will provide you tracking for an additional cost. :sh

[Robulous78]

Ok... ok.... terminology aside is its purpose not one in the same?

Sincerely, I appreciate you guys trying to make me feel better about this... but I feel like I have been watching and waiting for water to boil...

[T.G]

IDK how they do routing... so I will take your word on it... that aside why is it not updated in the information? I would buy that this is an accident if it didn't happen with, and a am not BSing here, every single package that I have personally tracked...

On second glance, it might not be a misroute, I was initially under the (mistaken) impression that Charolette was your PO. I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually on the truck for delivery, the status just isn't updated yet. USPS's system was designed differently than the other carriers, their systems were always designed to track every package movement, USPS's, on the other hand, was originally only designed to track actual deliveries, so not everything updates in real-time.

[Robulous78]

On second glance, it might not be a misroute, I was initially under the (mistaken) impression that Charolette was your PO. I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually on the truck for delivery, the status just isn't updated yet. USPS's system was designed differently than the other carriers, their systems were always designed to track every package movement, USPS's, on the other hand, was originally only designed to track actual deliveries, so not everything updates in real-time.

Hope so... mail usually comes around 3pm here so only 2 more hours of uncertainty... :(

[14holestogie]

chill....

[Robulous78]

ok ok... I'll try to keep composure... but I know I can't be the only one that has issues like this with them... constantly...

[markem]

ok ok... I'll try to keep composure... but I know I can't be the only one that has issues like this with them... constantly...

delivery confirmation is supposed to confirm when the package is delivered, QED, full stop, game over. All other intermediate information is a bonus and is generated primarily for internal USPS consumption, but some find it useful to stare at the partial tracking info in order to plan their lives.

But never use it for tracking. Heck, even the supposedly real tracking numbers for international are unreliable because the receiving country doesn't provide tracking feedback to USPS.

Btw, if this is high enough on the priority list to actually bug you, I want your priority list. 'cuz it's way below #10,000 on mine.

[irratebass]

Just do like I did with Columbia house and BMG back in the day, forget about it and when it arrives in the mail it's like a holiday....it's coming bro.....patience grasshoppa

[CigarNut]

If it is urgent then use an overnight delivery service. If 2-3 day delivery at a great price is acceptable then USPS does an excellent job.

[T.G]

Ok... ok.... terminology aside is its purpose not one in the same?

Sincerely, I appreciate you guys trying to make me feel better about this... but I feel like I have been watching and waiting for water to boil...


The difference is the guarantee, or lack thereof.

Even though USPS changed "Delivery Confirmation" to be "USPS Tracking" sometime earlier this year (late Jan or Feb IIRC), and is providing status updates to the package movements, it's not guaranteed. Neither the package movement updates nor the delivery date, so it's basically the same as what you had before just with the possibility of seeing where the package is/was accurate to a 6-8 hour window. So, yeah, they have status up there, but don't count on it, just count on the confirmation of delivery part.

[markem]

So, yeah, they have status up there, but don't count on it, just count on the confirmation of delivery part.

provided it is scanned at the receiving end, which in some areas is a crap shoot.

[racerX]

So what's in the box?

[T.G]

provided it is scanned at the receiving end, which in some areas is a crap shoot.

Good point, all falls under that "lack of a guarantee" issue.

[Robulous78]

my first purchase of CC's

[Robulous78]

hence why I might be a little twerked up about it... I'm excited...

[mariogolbee]

No positive options for your poll, eh? I can't recall ever having any real problems with USPS. I see people complain about them a a lot, but all things considered, I'm quite pleased with their service.

[CasaDooley]

If it is urgent then use an overnight delivery service. If 2-3 day delivery at a great price is acceptable then USPS does an excellent job.

No positive options for your poll, eh? I can't recall ever having any real problems with USPS. I see people complain about them a a lot, but all things considered, I'm quite pleased with their service.

I like em too. :tu

[emopunker2004]

The number is a Delivery Confirmation number and it is included in the price of a Priority shipment. IT IS NOT A TRACKING NUMBER! There are other delivery services that will provide you tracking for an additional cost. :sh

Actually since they started "including it" its now "USPS tracking"

[Lockspur]

my first purchase of CC's

Your first shipment of stolen Credit Cards???? That's a MAFIA racket!!!!! Don't let Don JayJay find out. He might don his tactical tutu!

[T.G]

Actually since they started "including it" its now "USPS tracking"

Semantics. Just because they might call it "USPS Tracking" now, the tracking updates aren't guaranteed. I've sent out plenty of packages since the change that never received acceptance scans, or any other scans, until they arrived at their destination PO or the main sort PO before distribution to the final PO. It's really no different than it has been for the last few years - it's a D/C number, that might get an update along the way, when it works. If you want guaranteed accurate tracking, like Bob said, you'll have to pay a private carrier.

It's not that different from the changing of "Parcel Post" to "Standard Post". Or when "Book Rate" became "Media Mail". Other than the name change and price hike it's really all the same.

[markem]

Actually since they started "including it" its now "USPS tracking"

http://faq.usps.com/adaptivedesktop/faq.jsp?ef=USPSFAQ

USPS Tracking / Delivery Confirmation does NOT provide:

Tracking or tracing
Expedited delivery
Guaranteed delivery time
Mailing or signature receipt
Address information
Specific delivery information

[AdamJoshua]

i have a box scanned at a sort facility here in SD, then it disappeared off the face of the earth, still says delivery date as the 4th as in the beginning of this month :r I've become quite the expert on the Postal Service and their operations.

[Genetic Defect]

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[pektel]

So did they show up yet?

[pektel]

How about now?

[icehog3]

There's no poll option for "Robulous is misleading/incompetent/frustrating"?

[bighairlogo]

Well I will say the fine folks at the post office where Rob and I live seem to be some of the most ignorant and rude people I have ever met.

[icehog3]

Could be, but they have nothing to do with the delivery confirmation system. ;)

P.S....Rob knows I was yanking his chain, I am sure.

[equetefue]

How about now !?

[racerX]

No reply. They must have showed up. That is great. Enjoy your credit cards.

[Genetic Defect]

Candy corn

[OLS]

Stupid-a55 post office.

[pnoon]

bishes

[Genetic Defect]

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[Zane]

:O


Did it arrive? (Really Rob is sleeping and has no clue if its came)

[Porch Dweller]

then why in a world of wonderful computers is that not reflected in the information... certainly if I live in a black hole they know the package is in bound for a black hole and to add a day or two onto the delivery date... this is why I always end up pissed off at USPS... UPS and DHL, FEDEX all arrive when they say they will arrive... it can't be impossible for them...

Two weeks ago I was out of town when UPS was supposed to deliver a package for me. So I went to their website and paid $5 to have the package delivered the day after I got home. The day I was supposed to receive the package it didn't arrive. I got online and checked the tracking and someone at UPS had had the package returned to the sender on that date instead of delivering it to me. So take heart, it's not just the USPS that has the occasional SNAFU.

[Lockspur]

I've had problems with every delivery service out there. FedEx Home left a package on the doorstep of my business...over the weekend. UPS has failed to deliver on time twice for no apparent reason.

I figure, if it's not important, it will be delivered with utmost efficiency. Work-related supplies, papers, packages for co-workers, etc. If it's something that's going to feed our desires (stogies, car parts, gun parts, ****...etc.) then it will take forever to make it to our hands in a reasonable fashion. But only after calling all of the 1-800 numbers and chewing out people as to why they're drivers can't seem to do their jobs.

[hammondc]

Now?

[bighairlogo]

the candy corn will arrive tomorrow

[emopunker2004]

Sorry Rob. I voted option 1 as there was no all of the above

[DMK]

If you want to see truly bad service for extortion prices... look no further than Canada Post...
I've had packages returned to me because they've confused the To: for the From:.... :fp
We pay ridiculous prices compared to USPS, but maybe it's due to them using dogsleds for delivery...:r

[emopunker2004]

If you want to see truly bad service for extortion prices... look no further than Canada Post...
I've had packages returned to me because they've confused the To: for the From:.... :fp
We pay ridiculous prices compared to USPS, but maybe it's due to them using dogsleds for delivery...:r

Maybe it's cuz USPS is hemoragging money. They're in the red every year

[Robulous78]

Could be, but they have nothing to do with the delivery confirmation system. ;)

P.S....Rob knows I was yanking his chain, I am sure.

LoL I do Indeed Tom... :lr

[BHalbrooks]

Rob, you missed everyone's question: Did you get your ****? lol

[Robulous78]

just woke up and checked CA... gotta get a cup of coffee going then I'll check...

[BHalbrooks]

No excuses!!!

[Robulous78]

Nope.... not here... they have found some way to not deliver a package that was received at 7am less then an hour from where I live....

so thats 2 days off on a 2 day delivery.... Option 1 seems to work pretty well, for me anyways.... :2

[Genetic Defect]

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[icehog3]

Nope.... not here... they have found some way to not deliver a package that was received at 7am less then an hour from where I live....



That means that the earliest they could get it to your local P.O. was 8AM....by then, mail has probably been sorted for delivery for the day already. ;)

[massphatness]

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[Genetic Defect]

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:r

[CigarNut]

bishes

[maninblack]

Be thankful it wasn't Fedex Smartpost. Thats a PITA.

[BHalbrooks]

FedEx in general is a major PITA

[equetefue]

Agree with you Brian. In order of preference

1. UPS
2. USPS
3. FedEX
4. DHL

[shark]

My main contention with the USPS is when I go on vacation and I specifically send them a request to hold my mail, and tell them that I will pick it up. I come home a week or so later to a mailbox full of mail that was SUPPOSED to be held at the post office until a SPECIFIC date. How hard is it to do that? :sl:sl:sl:sl:sl


Sorry, it's Friday and I'm tired and grumpy.

[Azpostal]

:banger USPS is Awesome!!! I couldn't even afford a cigar if not for my work:banger

[AdamJoshua]

Well it helps when people put down correct addresses, pay correct postage, put return addresses on packages and overall understand who's responsibility the package is (including ownership) when it's sent until it's received by the addressee, but I digress.

[Robulous78]

So I am a day late (usually a dollar short also) in posting this,

On the 17th they arrived...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8400/8753733794_8065f71516_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8753733794/) IMG_1036 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8753733794/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Much happier now knowing they got here safe...

[maninblack]

You were waiting on those? No loss if they got lost in the system. ;)

[Robulous78]

yea I know... was just excited is all...

[Ed M]

can anyone tell me what this means?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8744950380_39ca73bf2c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8744950380/) Capture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8744950380/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr


Package being sent to me from Mickey,
Supposed to be here yesterday?, yet arrived this morning 1 hour away in Asheville, and is not out for delivery?

Maybe this is why they are going out of business? or are they intentionally putting yesterdays date for delivery to make the process more frustrating? or am I just impatient?

USPS is horrible! They should just shut it down. UPS, Fed Ex, they're much better at package delivery, and with e-mail, on line bill paying, etc. Who needs them!

[T.G]

So I am a day late (usually a dollar short also) in posting this,

On the 17th they arrived...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8400/8753733794_8065f71516_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8753733794/) IMG_1036 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8753733794/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Much happier now knowing they got here safe...

Amazing.

[markem]

Amazing.

Glad you got them. You'll always remember your first box and all the anxiety and dosh associated with them.

[AdamJoshua]

It brings up a valuable lesson, that is, who the responsibility of things like insurance claims and tracking of lost packages, the send is responsible for all things dealing with a package lost in the mail, while you as the addressee may call and inquire about the package and they may look in your local delivery office, that's about as far as it will go, this via the postal service and their procedures. If you have someone tell you that you are responsible for hunting down or filing the insurance for a package they sent and you never received they are incorrect, as a matter of fact for lost packages the addressee has no recourse though the postal service as far as replacement / payment of insurance, the sender is their customer and has purchased said insurance, not the addressee.

If you receive a damaged box, box with items missing or even an empty box the addressee can deal with the postal service direct but for packages that are just "missing" only the sender can deal with claims or tracking through the Atlanta recovery center (formerly the dead letter office).

Just some points to remember.

[pektel]

You'll always remember your first box and all the anxiety and dosh associated with her.

fixt.

[MajorCaptSilly]

My mail carrier pulled up in his personal car the other evening and delivered a package he found after finishing his deliveries. He could have waited until the next day but dropped it off on his personal time. I feel pretty lucky.

MCS

[Robulous78]

My mail carrier pulled up in his personal car the other evening and delivered a package he found after finishing his deliveries. He could have waited until the next day but dropped it off on his personal time. I feel pretty lucky.

MCS

Wish we got that kind of service here. Tyler had a package not delivered because the carrier wasn't willing to knock on his door as she drove by, while he was watching no less...

[pnoon]

It brings up a valuable lesson, that is, who the responsibility of things like insurance claims and tracking of lost packages, the send is responsible for all things dealing with a package lost in the mail, while you as the addressee may call and inquire about the package and they may look in your local delivery office, that's about as far as it will go, this via the postal service and their procedures. If you have someone tell you that you are responsible for hunting down or filing the insurance for a package they sent and you never received they are incorrect, as a matter of fact for lost packages the addressee has no recourse though the postal service as far as replacement / payment of insurance, the sender is their customer and has purchased said insurance, not the addressee.

If you receive a damaged box, box with items missing or even an empty box the addressee can deal with the postal service direct but for packages that are just "missing" only the sender can deal with claims or tracking through the Atlanta recovery center (formerly the dead letter office).

Just some points to remember.

Spot on.

In all transactions, it is always the responsibility of the sender to ensure not just delivery - but receipt. When trying to facilitate incomplete transactions, many times the sender has offered the explanation that "once it's in the mail, my responsibility is complete".
Horse hockey!

[macsauce13]

I've lost three packages sent by USPS this year. It really varies city to city. Prior to this year, I have only ever lost one and it occurred on this site. THREE.