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76GTFan
01-30-2013, 06:42 PM
I know it has been discussed here before, but what are your thoughts on these? I really don't see any effect on the taste of whiskey. I know they aren't supposed to get the spirit real cold, but I can't notice the lack of edge. So what's the point?:sh

bobarian
01-30-2013, 06:44 PM
The point is getting people to spend money for rocks? :sh

theonlybear4CORT
01-30-2013, 07:02 PM
So your spirits won't get diluted?

76GTFan
01-30-2013, 07:03 PM
I actually bought these over a year ago, so the sting from feeling ripped off has gone. Was in my basement fridge pulling a steak out, when I saw them in the freezer. I may try and sell them, but would feel guilty to make someone feel ripped like I was. Some folks like these things though. I just didn't.

76GTFan
01-30-2013, 07:05 PM
So your spirits won't get diluted?

Yeah they call that neat.:r

I can't tell the difference with or without. Wanna buy some 40 dollar soap stones.

mahtofire14
01-30-2013, 07:07 PM
These guys just followed me on Twitter. Got me kind of interested but only because it wouldn't dilute my whiskey. Nice to see some opinions on them here though.

dwoodward
01-30-2013, 07:16 PM
I got mine as a gift. Problem is that they hold almost zero heat/cold/whatever. I dropped all 8 of them in a glass of whiskey and the drink stayed almost exactly the same temperature. It's all a gimmick, no real value to them at all. If you want your whiskey cool without diluting it, put it in the fridge for a half hour before pouring, it will do the job better.

pnoon
01-30-2013, 07:18 PM
I got mine as a gift. Problem is that they hold almost zero heat/cold/whatever. I dropped all 8 of them in a glass of whiskey and the drink stayed almost exactly the same temperature. It's all a gimmick, no real value to them at all. If you want your whiskey cool without diluting it, put it in the fridge for a half hour before pouring, it will do the job better.

I think you're supposed to put them in the freezer first. ;)

SvilleKid
01-30-2013, 07:18 PM
Put the bottle of booze in the freezer. Then drink it neat. Cold, and no stones to clean up afterwards. As someone that only drinks his good booze neat, I find no difference in the taste cold, or room temperature.

I understand the dynamics of a cube or two of ice "opening" the tastes up, but I don't find I need it for most of what I drink. If I drank a lot of single malt scotch or had younger and better tastebuds, I might have a different opinion, as I understand there are a lot of complex flavors to good scotch that are released with varying amounts of water.

Other than the difference between cold booze, and room temp booze, I can't think of a reason to put rocks in my booze glasses!

pnoon
01-30-2013, 07:21 PM
I agree with you, Cliff.
The only exception for me is cask strength whiskies. A small splash of water does wonders.
:2

dwoodward
01-30-2013, 07:41 PM
I think you're supposed to put them in the freezer first. ;)

LOL... Yeah I suppose I should have clarified that I had done that prior. I actually had them in our deep freezer which runs at something like -10F. They were cold when I took them out, but once put in my drink they did almost nothing. After further analysis, they warm up to room temp in about a minute if you just put them on the counter. :sh

SvilleKid
01-30-2013, 10:32 PM
I agree with you, Cliff.
The only exception for me is cask strength whiskies. A small splash of water does wonders.
:2

I know Jeremy has a set of "ice" rocks that he uses from time to time. And he particularly likes a little water in Irish Whiskey. I have to admit, Peter... I've never tried water in the barrel-strength bourbons I've had. It might be the thing that makes Bookers palatable for me (just a little on the strong/harsh side for me to enjoy sipping). Might be something I should try instead of giving away the bottle I have!!!

Robulous78
01-30-2013, 10:43 PM
I would say just have it straight up, if you are really concerned with the temperature you could always just freeze the glass you are going to use... unless of course your glass is something fancy that requires you to hold your pinkie in the air while sipping... :lr

mithrilG60
01-30-2013, 10:55 PM
I understand the dynamics of a cube or two of ice "opening" the tastes up, but I don't find I need it for most of what I drink. If I drank a lot of single malt scotch or had younger and better tastebuds, I might have a different opinion, as I understand there are a lot of complex flavors to good scotch that are released with varying amounts of water.

Ice doesn't open anything up, cooling prevent some of the volatile aromatics from vaporizing which in certain spirits is a good thing. In most whiskey you actually want those aromatics since they are the source of the nose and much of the taste. Room temp water is a different matter as diluting the alcohol level allows you to taste more nuance and less alcohol. Most whiskey is meant to be drunk at room temp, it's not vodka!

icehog3
01-31-2013, 02:15 AM
I bought a set about a year ago, used them a few times, and now they just sit there in the freezer. They are absolutely worhtless....glad I bought them heavily discounted.

massphatness
01-31-2013, 06:02 AM
I've gotten three sets at various times over the years as gifts. I use them on a rotating basis with the rocks in my head. I find when I use the soap stones in my dome, it helps me think clean thoughts.

mahtofire14
01-31-2013, 06:53 AM
Guess I'll pass on these and just keep buying cigars....:rolleyes:

czerbe
01-31-2013, 08:38 AM
I agree with you, Cliff.
The only exception for me is cask strength whiskies. A small splash of water does wonders.
:2

:tpd:

Couldn't agree more Cash Strength is no joke great flavors but needs a touch of water. I don't like the stones they never seem to keep the Scotch cold and I'm always worried one day the stones will chip or break the glass or my teeth for that matter trying to get that last drop in the bottom of the glass!!! :sh

replicant_argent
01-31-2013, 09:17 AM
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=41820&highlight=whiskey+stones
The first thread you started on these would have been a great one to bump with your current thoughts rather than make yet another thread on them, it may help if people just had one "opinion" thread to disseminate if/when they decided to search such a thing.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/search.php?searchid=6711016


Or have you been using the stones so much and with such frequency you are constantly looped and forgot? ;)

SvilleKid
01-31-2013, 09:44 AM
Ice doesn't open anything up, cooling prevent some of the volatile aromatics from vaporizing which in certain spirits is a good thing. In most whiskey you actually want those aromatics since they are the source of the nose and much of the taste. Room temp water is a different matter as diluting the alcohol level allows you to taste more nuance and less alcohol. Most whiskey is meant to be drunk at room temp, it's not vodka!


As I understand it, it's not the ice, it's the water that melts from the ice. Using ice allows more taste/aroma development as it melts and provides an increasing amount of water as you sip, and thus an ever changing water/spirit ratio. The cooling effect is secondary, and not the main function, as I have read. As to vodka, I stopped drinking that decades ago, so I can't pass any judgements on it's response to ice! I know cheap vodka went well with Sprite and ice when I was 18!

irratebass
01-31-2013, 12:06 PM
Like 76GTFan & Tom I also have some stones (won them from Partagas) and I agree I cannot tell a difference at all, I'm giving mine away to a regular at the shop.

riverdawg
01-31-2013, 04:09 PM
Wanna buy some 40 dollar soap stones.

Holy crap! I got mine as a gift from someone who also gave me a bottle of Dalwhinnie Distillers Edition I think 14yr. Can't tell one bit of difference in chill or taste with the stones. Would definitely feel ripped off if I'd paid for them.

The Poet
01-31-2013, 04:23 PM
I cannot speak for others, but whiskey stones me. That's why I stick to beer and wine.

icehog3
01-31-2013, 05:58 PM
I cannot speak for others, but whiskey stones me. That's why I stick to beer and wine.

I see what you did there. :)

The Poet
02-01-2013, 08:31 AM
I see what you did there. :)

:confused:












;)

badbriar
08-08-2013, 10:31 PM
I'm the exception here - like the whiskey rocks. Very slightly cools the drink...just enough. Easier than putting the glass/ bottle, etc in the freezer. I do notice a difference in the temperature of the liquid with the chilled rock in the glass. Prefer good bourbon, scotch, Irish neat. Use the rocks several times a week. If nothing else, they make a hell of a good throwing stone to bean some idiot...!
RR

oooo35980
08-09-2013, 08:23 PM
I find them functionally useless, they are great for making you feel sophisticated though. Kind of like smoking jackets.